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For once the nitwits in Kongress got it right. The omnibus bill passed Fri
killed the stupid CFL bulb they were trying to cram down out throats. If only they'd had some balls before they crammed the stupid digital tv system down our throats 2 years ago. |
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On 12/18/2011 11:01 AM, Ernie wrote:
For once the nitwits in Kongress got it right. The omnibus bill passed Fri killed the stupid CFL bulb they were trying to cram down out throats. If only they'd had some balls before they crammed the stupid digital tv system down our throats 2 years ago. Hmmm, well, I am past caring, I went all cheap CFL's from the dollar store and a couple of daylight quality ones in important places, reading, plants, etc. Now, going to LEDs ... my bill has dropped a noticeable amount ... But, no law is really necessary, just the energy savings is going to move people off of incandescent bulbs, quick enough ... Regards, JS |
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"Ernie" wrote in message m... For once the nitwits in Kongress got it right. The omnibus bill passed Fri killed the stupid CFL bulb they were trying to cram down out throats. If only they'd had some balls before they crammed the stupid digital tv system down our throats 2 years ago. I don't believe the president has signed anything yet. Also, there were differences in the Senate bill--will need to have a conference to 'iron-out' differences. |
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On 12/18/2011 2:01 PM, Ernie wrote:
For once the nitwits in Kongress got it right. The omnibus bill passed Fri killed the stupid CFL bulb they were trying to cram down out throats. Why is George Bush's CFL law "stupid"? (you do realize that the CFL bill was signed into law by George W. Bush). Next, you do realize that CFLs are are win-win-win situation. 1) They use one quarter the energy of incandescent bulbs, thus reducing YOUR lighting bill to one quarter of what it was. 2) At the generating station end, CFL usage causes the power plants to emit one quarter of the mercury into the atmosphere compared to incandescent usage. 3) The CFLs use less electricity compared to incandescent, thus significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil (if most lighting was switched over to CFLs). So, tell us again which of the above three points you are against. |
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You guys really bought it hook, line and sinker.
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On 12/18/2011 6:26 PM, Ernie wrote:
You guys really bought it hook, line and sinker. Well, maybe so... ....but you DID dodge the question. Please try again to tell us which of the easily provable true statements below you believe is incorrect. 1) They use one quarter the energy of incandescent bulbs, thus reducing YOUR lighting bill to one quarter of what it was. 2) At the generating station end, CFL usage causes the power plants to emit one quarter of the mercury into the atmosphere compared to incandescent usage. 3) The CFLs use less electricity compared to incandescent, thus significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil (if most lighting was switched over to CFLs). |
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On 12/18/2011 9:24 PM, MotoFox wrote:
And it came to pass that Joe from Kokomo delivered the following message unto the people, saying~ Why is George Bush's CFL law "stupid"? (you do realize that the CFL bill was signed into law by George W. Bush). Ever tried to DX near a compact fluorescent light, or within the vicinity of a power system that has a bunch of them on it? Try doing that--go ahead, try it--then tell me if you still think it's not stupid. 1) Yes, as a matter of fact I do DX near CFLs -- and I have no problems with numerous CFLs and four foot fluorescent tubes in the ham shack. 2) In any event, with 700,000 hams out of a population of 300 million, that's only .2% that are hams. Again, the savings in the use of foreign oil, the reduction in mercury emissions that we ALL breathe and the savings in YOUR electric lighting bill would seem to offset the fraction of the .2% that are hams that DX. It seems you would like to have the tail wag the dog...and to me, that's stupid. |
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On Dec 18, 8:24*pm, MotoFox confucius-
Try doing that--go ahead, try it--then tell me if you still think it's not stupid. It has been clinically proven that florescent lighting causes psychological problems for many people. Autistic and Asperger syndrome individuals are particularly vulnerable because they can actually see the flicker rate of the bulbs which causes excruciating migraine headaches. Thank goodness these poor folks have been given a reprieve. |
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Joe from Kokomo wrote:
3) The CFLs use less electricity compared to incandescent, thus significantly reducing our dependence on foreign oil (if most lighting was switched over to CFLs). Actually, no. Almost all electricity in the US is provided by other means, mostly coal. Foreign oil is less than 25% of the oil consumed in the US, so because more than 50% of the energy needs of the US are povided by coal, reducing the amount of electricity used won't do much to about foreign oil. If you want to reduce polution, CFLs would help there, but if you want to reduce the foreign oil usage, drive less. The next time a candidate for President says that if he is elected he will bankrupt the coal industry, pay attention before you vote for him. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( |
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On 12/18/2011 7:57 PM, Truth Teller wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:24 pm, MotoFoxconfucius- Try doing that--go ahead, try it--then tell me if you still think it's not stupid. It has been clinically proven that florescent lighting causes psychological problems for many people. Autistic and Asperger syndrome individuals are particularly vulnerable because they can actually see the flicker rate of the bulbs which causes excruciating migraine headaches. Thank goodness these poor folks have been given a reprieve. It seems there is at least one type of mental illness, and possibly a whole range of them, where everything is clinically proven to worsen/cause their condition, or the worsening of that/those condition(s.) Oh well, guess they need to man up and get ready for a rocky ride ... Regards, JS |
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On 12/18/2011 10:29 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
... The next time a candidate for President says that if he is elected he will bankrupt the coal industry, pay attention before you vote for him. Geoff. After obama, it would seem logical to consider shooting the next one ... a prison cell would take care of obama -- and there are numerous reasons for such actions! While true, obama is no worse than any of the crooked presidents, beginning with nixon, and including ALL of them since ... these crooks are getting old, and our wallets and standard of living unable to afford more of them. Regards, JS |
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MotoFox wrote:
Much as I hate it myself, I do have to give compact fluorescent lighting props for two things, though--(1) their heat output is far lower than that of an incandescent bulb and (2) the light output is considerably better than any LEDs I've ever seen. Personally, I can't figure out why anyone would want these harsh blue LEDs polluting their houses, ... That's not the fault of LEDs. LEDs like flourecent lights produce light in a few different colors. Combining those colors into what you see as white is done in your brain, and the proportion of those colors affects what you see it as. More blue and it looks like the daytime sky (hence the floursecent lamps called daylight) and more red looks like fire light (hence the flourescent lamps called warm white). Early CFLs (around 15 years ago, when I first got them) were all daylight and produced harsh unusable light. I could only use them outdoors and in windowless rooms where cheap was more important than color. Now it is easy to get warm CFLs and they are much more agreeable than the old blue/green heavy ones the past. LEDs will also move in that direction as people demand them. Note that the color affects the way people think, and cool lights make them more "edgy" which is good if you want people to work harder. Warm lights make people feel more comfortable and mellow, which is better for homes, etc. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( |
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On 12/19/2011 12:09 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
MotoFox wrote: Much as I hate it myself, I do have to give compact fluorescent lighting props for two things, though--(1) their heat output is far lower than that of an incandescent bulb and (2) the light output is considerably better than any LEDs I've ever seen. Personally, I can't figure out why anyone would want these harsh blue LEDs polluting their houses, ... That's not the fault of LEDs. LEDs like flourecent lights produce light in a few different colors. Combining those colors into what you see as white is done in your brain, and the proportion of those colors affects what you see it as. More blue and it looks like the daytime sky (hence the floursecent lamps called daylight) and more red looks like fire light (hence the flourescent lamps called warm white). Early CFLs (around 15 years ago, when I first got them) were all daylight and produced harsh unusable light. I could only use them outdoors and in windowless rooms where cheap was more important than color. Now it is easy to get warm CFLs and they are much more agreeable than the old blue/green heavy ones the past. LEDs will also move in that direction as people demand them. Note that the color affects the way people think, and cool lights make them more "edgy" which is good if you want people to work harder. Warm lights make people feel more comfortable and mellow, which is better for homes, etc. Geoff. I never have liked "warm white", always preferred "cool white" and now that daylight bulbs are just as cheap, I prefer them also, so does the wife ... and the dim-able fluorescent are nice for room lighting. Have never noticed light really affecting my mood, or anyone else, for that matter, but I know people with mental problems are having all sorts of people attempt to manipulate them with light, colors, food, drugs, etc. -- any prison or mental hospital and you will find examples ... All I notice is others home appear dim to me, when bathed in warm white ... Regards, JS |
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On 12/19/2011 12:08 PM, MotoFox wrote:
And it came to pass that John Smith delivered the following message unto the people, saying~ After obama, it would seem logical to consider shooting the next one ... a prison cell would take care of obama -- and there are numerous reasons for such actions! It'll never happen. We're still waiting for Bu$h to rightfully have his ass handed to him in Gitmo, but we know that'll never happen either. So, don't hold your breath..... I am for shipping him off to a country who knows how to try him as a war criminal! Regards, JS |
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I personally would never consider using incandescent bulbs again. I
switched to CFL bulbs a long time ago. I can't really even remember the last time I had to replace one. They last soooo much longer! They do not generate any (ANY) RFI, even when they're in close proximity to your radio gear. The law can say anything it likes so far as I'm concerned....just so long as it doesn't make it harder for me to get CFL bulbs! |
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PUH-LEEZE don't use ANYTHING Bush did as any argument "in-favor." I could
list you MANY reasons if freedom of speech existed anymore. If you are even able to see that much of a difference on your electric bill YOU ARE LEAVING TOO DAMN MANY LIGHTS ON in your house. Why don't you turn a light off when you leave the room? You get the leaders talking out of both sides of their mouths about "going green" to cut down on THEIR OWN usage and then we'll debate. Well, maybe so... ...but you DID dodge the question |
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On 12/20/2011 7:00 AM, Ernie wrote:
PUH-LEEZE don't use ANYTHING Bush did as any argument "in-favor." I could list you MANY reasons if freedom of speech existed anymore. If you are even able to see that much of a difference on your electric bill YOU ARE LEAVING TOO DAMN MANY LIGHTS ON in your house. Why don't you turn a light off when you leave the room? You get the leaders talking out of both sides of their mouths about "going green" to cut down on THEIR OWN usage and then we'll debate. Well, maybe so... ...but you DID dodge the question Actually, you can buy a watt meter at lowes, homedepot or most any hardware store near you, plug in a 100w incandescent, do your measurements, plug in a fluorescent, do your measurements ... then compute costs based on the price of electricity per/KW on your bill ... We have also put everything on timers to avoid hitting peak times, we basically "go dark" at peak and then back on after ... wife does laundry, run dishwasher, showers, etc., always off peak times ... If you don't think you can make one hell of a dent in your power bill, think again, and fluorescent/LEDs are a part of that difference ... unless you live in a tent and use but a single light bulb ... Also, we have split our appliance between natural gas and electricity, so we never exceed the allotted cubic feet and KW/hrs. Of course, if I worked for the power company, I might advise others to use more. lol Regards, JS |
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On 12/19/2011 9:30 PM, Steve wrote:
I personally would never consider using incandescent bulbs again. I switched to CFL bulbs a long time ago. I can't really even remember the last time I had to replace one. They last soooo much longer! They do not generate any (ANY) RFI, even when they're in close proximity to your radio gear. The law can say anything it likes so far as I'm concerned....just so long as it doesn't make it harder for me to get CFL bulbs! Well, the first/cheap fluorescent were a real RFI problem for me, proper filters on my lines cut this to acceptable ... however, these days the new RFI have to be very close to my am radio for the noise to be picked up by its' ferrite loopstick. Seems to me they have "fixed" the problem, least as far as I am concerned ... but then, I am still running the filters on my lines because the wife just loves room light dimmers .... these were always my biggest RFI problem ... probably should look to see if there are quieter ones available ... Regards, JS |
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John Smith wrote:
We have also put everything on timers to avoid hitting peak times, we basically "go dark" at peak and then back on after ... wife does laundry, run dishwasher, showers, etc., always off peak times ... I use several CFLs in places that need to be on almost the entire day, from 5am until 2am, for example in a windowless bathroom. I don't bother with a timer, I just use an 8w CFL, which is enough to do most things you would do in a bathroom. When you want more light, there is a two 40w floursecent fixture which gets turned on and off as needed. I also put two 28 watt warm CFLs in a hallway that was "dark and dirty" (or it looked that way, it really was clean) because it was unlit. They are on (manually) from around 6:30am until 1am. It really changes the look of the place and since there is light I put some house plants on top of a cabinet near one of the lights. I could of done the same thing with 2 100 Watt or 4 60 Watt incandescent bulbs, but the cost of the fixtures would of been a lot higher, and the operating cost prohibative. So instead of a dark "pit" which is ignored, it has become the center of the apartment when you walk in the door and you see a warm, comforting light and green plants. If you don't think you can make one hell of a dent in your power bill, think again, and fluorescent/LEDs are a part of that difference ... unless you live in a tent and use but a single light bulb ... If you need incandescent light for reading, you can always buy small spot beams which don't light (and warm) the rest of the room up. I do find that flourescent lights in general are not as good for close work or reading, so I often have to use more of them than the usual stated amounts. For example, I have two 2x40 Watt fixtures in the kitchen, a 28 Watt fixture over the sink, and a 12 Watt CFL in the ceiling fan, which is used to light the room when it is not in use (so you can see how to get around). That would be the equivalent of over 1KW of incandescent lighting, which would not only be too expensive to run, but would produce enough heat I could cook things right on the table. :-) Also, we have split our appliance between natural gas and electricity, so we never exceed the allotted cubic feet and KW/hrs. Of course, if I worked for the power company, I might advise others to use more. lol :-) geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( |
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On 12/20/2011 10:00 AM, Ernie wrote:
PUH-LEEZE don't use ANYTHING Bush did as any argument "in-favor." I could list you MANY reasons if freedom of speech existed anymore. Only reason I mentioned Bush is that many people here have been blaming the "CFL law" on Obama, patently un-true. Just wanted to place credit (or blame) where it is due -- on W. If you are even able to see that much of a difference on your electric bill YOU ARE LEAVING TOO DAMN MANY LIGHTS ON in your house. Why don't you turn a light off when you leave the room? First of all, I DO turn off lights when I leave the room. And the bottom line is that CFLs use ONE QUARTER of the power that incandescent uses. So, no matter how many or how few lights you use or turn off, your lighting bill will STILL be one quarter. You get the leaders talking out of both sides of their mouths about "going green" to cut down on THEIR OWN usage and then we'll debate. Huh? What's to "debate"? Why should what a "leader's" electric bill is have anything at all to do with ME using one fourth of the electricity on MY bill. Congratulations! You're still doing a fine job of dodging and tap dancing -- but still avoiding the undisputable fact that, for the same light output, CFLs use ONE FOURTH the electricity (no matter what anyone else does) and puts one fourth of the mercury into the air at the power plant. |
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On 12/20/2011 10:44 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
John Smith wrote: We have also put everything on timers to avoid hitting peak times, we basically "go dark" at peak and then back on after ... wife does laundry, run dishwasher, showers, etc., always off peak times ... I use several CFLs in places that need to be on almost the entire day, from 5am until 2am, for example in a windowless bathroom. I don't bother with a timer, I just use an 8w CFL, which is enough to do most things you would do in a bathroom. When you want more light, there is a two 40w floursecent fixture which gets turned on and off as needed. I also put two 28 watt warm CFLs in a hallway that was "dark and dirty" (or it looked that way, it really was clean) because it was unlit. They are on (manually) from around 6:30am until 1am. It really changes the look of the place and since there is light I put some house plants on top of a cabinet near one of the lights. I could of done the same thing with 2 100 Watt or 4 60 Watt incandescent bulbs, but the cost of the fixtures would of been a lot higher, and the operating cost prohibative. So instead of a dark "pit" which is ignored, it has become the center of the apartment when you walk in the door and you see a warm, comforting light and green plants. If you don't think you can make one hell of a dent in your power bill, think again, and fluorescent/LEDs are a part of that difference ... unless you live in a tent and use but a single light bulb ... If you need incandescent light for reading, you can always buy small spot beams which don't light (and warm) the rest of the room up. I do find that flourescent lights in general are not as good for close work or reading, so I often have to use more of them than the usual stated amounts. For example, I have two 2x40 Watt fixtures in the kitchen, a 28 Watt fixture over the sink, and a 12 Watt CFL in the ceiling fan, which is used to light the room when it is not in use (so you can see how to get around). That would be the equivalent of over 1KW of incandescent lighting, which would not only be too expensive to run, but would produce enough heat I could cook things right on the table. :-) Also, we have split our appliance between natural gas and electricity, so we never exceed the allotted cubic feet and KW/hrs. Of course, if I worked for the power company, I might advise others to use more. lol :-) geoff. I can tell you give some thought to use, purpose and goals. This type of logic works well with light and ones power bill ... but, it is a good model for all other endeavors in life ... I'll bet it has severed you well. Yes, very much in agreement with you ... I have even switched out my flashlight bulbs for tactical LED ones, of the type used in the modern Maglites ... not only is battery life increased, but the light is brighter and provides more detail of objects illuminated ... Regards, JS |
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On 12/20/2011 11:26 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 12/20/2011 10:00 AM, Ernie wrote: PUH-LEEZE don't use ANYTHING Bush did as any argument "in-favor." I could list you MANY reasons if freedom of speech existed anymore. Only reason I mentioned Bush is that many people here have been blaming the "CFL law" on Obama, patently un-true. Just wanted to place credit (or blame) where it is due -- on W. If you are even able to see that much of a difference on your electric bill YOU ARE LEAVING TOO DAMN MANY LIGHTS ON in your house. Why don't you turn a light off when you leave the room? First of all, I DO turn off lights when I leave the room. And the bottom line is that CFLs use ONE QUARTER of the power that incandescent uses. So, no matter how many or how few lights you use or turn off, your lighting bill will STILL be one quarter. You get the leaders talking out of both sides of their mouths about "going green" to cut down on THEIR OWN usage and then we'll debate. Huh? What's to "debate"? Why should what a "leader's" electric bill is have anything at all to do with ME using one fourth of the electricity on MY bill. Congratulations! You're still doing a fine job of dodging and tap dancing -- but still avoiding the undisputable fact that, for the same light output, CFLs use ONE FOURTH the electricity (no matter what anyone else does) and puts one fourth of the mercury into the air at the power plant. Any of them proposing, passing or supporting illegal laws such as the one on incandescent lighting should face a firing squad ... that is not their jobs. They are public servants of the people ... from the president right on down to your local dog catcher ... Regards, JS |
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:01:06 -0600, Ernie wrote:
For once the nitwits in Kongress got it right. The omnibus bill passed Fri killed the stupid CFL bulb they were trying to cram down out throats. If only they'd had some balls before they crammed the stupid digital tv system down our throats 2 years ago. |
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On 12/20/2011 10:22 PM, MotoFox wrote:
And it came to pass that John Smith delivered the following message unto the people, saying~ I never have liked "warm white", always preferred "cool white" and now that daylight bulbs are just as cheap, I prefer them also, so does the wife ... and the dim-able fluorescent are nice for room lighting. Yeah, I pretty much have to use "warm white" or "soft white" myself, in the one lamp where I actually *do* have a compact fluorescent unit installed (my "tech lab" outpost, in my Mum's basement.) I find they're better for reading under than the "daylight" ones, which are a bit too harsh for my almost 29-year old eyes. On the other hand, Mum uses the "daylight" lights in the outside fixtures, and they seem to work great out there..... You make an excellent point, when I was younger, I could almost read a newspaper in the dark of night ... I think as you get older, you will appreciate the daylight bulb for work .... wife uses them for knitting, quilting and crochet -- to the exclusion of any and all others ... I have made a high power blue white LED light attached to her sewing machine, she also likes it ... especially with a black or dark thread on dark material. Regards, JS |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:31:23 -0800, John Smith wrote:
You make an excellent point, when I was younger, I could almost read a newspaper in the dark of night ... I think as you get older, you will appreciate the daylight bulb for work ... wife uses them for knitting, quilting and crochet -- to the exclusion of any and all others ... I have made a high power blue white LED light attached to her sewing machine, she also likes it ... especially with a black or dark thread on dark material. Regards, JS Wow, you aren't totally worthless after all! |
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Oh for pete's sake, there's always one of these guys. They're the ones mangled in a car wreck that can't believe it happened because they were wearing seat belts. |
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On 12/22/2011 5:24 AM, dave wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:31:23 -0800, John Smith wrote: You make an excellent point, when I was younger, I could almost read a newspaper in the dark of night ... I think as you get older, you will appreciate the daylight bulb for work ... wife uses them for knitting, quilting and crochet -- to the exclusion of any and all others ... I have made a high power blue white LED light attached to her sewing machine, she also likes it ... especially with a black or dark thread on dark material. Regards, JS Wow, you aren't totally worthless after all! No dave, but then, no one is really like you ... Regards, JS |
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On 12/22/2011 12:51 PM, Ernie wrote:
Oh for pete's sake, there's always one of these guys. They're the ones mangled in a car wreck that can't believe it happened because they were wearing seat belts. Or that, the nazis were the last evil men who aspired to take over and control a country ... or that public servants don't engage in widespread insider trading ... or that the "consulting fees" paid to gringrich where anything but a bribe, hidden as a legal payment ... ten million dollars!!!! worth ... etc. Regards, JS |
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On Dec 19, 9:09*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 12/19/2011 12:09 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: MotoFox wrote: Much as I hate it myself, I do have to give compact fluorescent lighting props for two things, though--(1) their heat output is far lower than that of an incandescent bulb and (2) the light output is considerably better than any LEDs I've ever seen. Personally, I can't figure out why anyone would want these harsh blue LEDs polluting their houses, ... That's not the fault of LEDs. LEDs like flourecent lights produce light in a few different colors. Combining those colors into what you see as white is done in your brain, and the proportion of those colors affects what you see it as. More blue and it looks like the daytime sky (hence the floursecent lamps called daylight) and more red looks like fire light (hence the flourescent lamps called warm white). Early CFLs (around 15 years ago, when I first got them) were all daylight and produced harsh unusable light. I could only use them outdoors and in windowless rooms where cheap was more important than color. Now it is easy to get warm CFLs and they are much more agreeable than the old blue/green heavy ones the past. LEDs will also move in that direction as people demand them. Note that the color affects the way people think, and cool lights make them more "edgy" which is good if you want people to work harder. Warm lights make people feel more comfortable and mellow, which is better for homes, etc. Geoff. I never have liked "warm white", always preferred "cool white" and now that daylight bulbs are just as cheap, I prefer them also, so does the wife ... and the dim-able fluorescent are nice for room lighting. Have never noticed light really affecting my mood, or anyone else, for that matter, but I know people with mental problems are having all sorts of people attempt to manipulate them with light, colors, food, drugs, etc. -- any prison or mental hospital and you will find examples ... All I notice is others home appear dim to me, when bathed in warm white .... Regards, JS My Moose-out-on-a-Limb friends -say- It Is Better To Curse In The Darkness -then-to- Read the Koran under CFL Bulbs : Christian inFidal Light [Bulbs] blessed are the holy in-can-descents illuminating the path to energy jihad praise be the name of ed-Ison ~ RHF |
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