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Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and Most Expansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
"A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National
Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind." We speak with investigative reporter James Bamford, who says the NSA has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. The Utah spy center will contain near-bottomless databases to store all forms of communication collected by the agency. This includes the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails — parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases and other digital "pocket litter." "The NSA has constantly denied that they’re doing things, and then it turns out they are doing these things," Bamford says in response to NSA Director General Keith Alexander’s denial yesterday that U.S. citizens’ phone calls and emails are being intercepted. "A few years ago, President Bush said before camera that the United States is not eavesdropping on anybody without a warrant, and then it turns out that we had this exposure to all the warrantless eavesdropping in the New York Times article. And so, you have this constant denial and parsing of words." Watch the complete interview at http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/2...as_largest_and Good stuff, this is what REAL not FAUX journalism is. |
Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and MostExpansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind." We speak with investigative reporter James Bamford, who says the NSA has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. The Utah spy center will contain near-bottomless databases to store all forms of communication collected by the agency. This includes the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails — parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases and other digital "pocket litter." "The NSA has constantly denied that they’re doing things, and then it turns out they are doing these things," Bamford says in response to NSA Director General Keith Alexander’s denial yesterday that U.S. citizens’ phone calls and emails are being intercepted. "A few years ago, President Bush said before camera that the United States is not eavesdropping on anybody without a warrant, and then it turns out that we had this exposure to all the warrantless eavesdropping in the New York Times article. And so, you have this constant denial and parsing of words." Watch the complete interview at http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/2...as_largest_and Good stuff, this is what REAL not FAUX journalism is. This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The CIA computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA |
Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and MostExpansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
dxAce wrote: Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind." We speak with investigative reporter James Bamford, who says the NSA has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. The Utah spy center will contain near-bottomless databases to store all forms of communication collected by the agency. This includes the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails — parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases and other digital "pocket litter." "The NSA has constantly denied that they’re doing things, and then it turns out they are doing these things," Bamford says in response to NSA Director General Keith Alexander’s denial yesterday that U.S. citizens’ phone calls and emails are being intercepted. "A few years ago, President Bush said before camera that the United States is not eavesdropping on anybody without a warrant, and then it turns out that we had this exposure to all the warrantless eavesdropping in the New York Times article. And so, you have this constant denial and parsing of words." Watch the complete interview at http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/2...as_largest_and Good stuff, this is what REAL not FAUX journalism is. This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The CIA computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. Sorry, change the above to "NSA computers..." dxAce Michigan USA |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most Expansive SecretDomestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
On 7/28/2012 7:32 AM, dxAce wrote:
Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind."[...] This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The [NSA] computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA It is very naive to trust the Secret Police (who nominally work for Barack Hussein Fetchit, but it's more nearly the other way round) when they tell you they are only looking for "threats" and that their fondest desire is to protect Amurrica, kittens, little old ladies, and little old you. In fact, it is very naive to trust the Secret Police period. With every good wish, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most Expansive SecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 7:32 AM, dxAce wrote: Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind."[...] This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The [NSA] computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA It is very naive to trust the Secret Police (who nominally work for Barack Hussein Fetchit, but it's more nearly the other way round) when they tell you they are only looking for "threats" and that their fondest desire is to protect Amurrica, kittens, little old ladies, and little old you. In fact, it is very naive to trust the Secret Police period. Well, the Secret Police sure did bust you, a convicted pedophile! Run along, clown 'tard. |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most Expansive SecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
On 7/28/2012 10:18 AM, dxAce wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 7:32 AM, dxAce wrote: Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind."[...] This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The [NSA] computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA It is very naive to trust the Secret Police (who nominally work for Barack Hussein Fetchit, but it's more nearly the other way round) when they tell you they are only looking for "threats" and that their fondest desire is to protect Amurrica, kittens, little old ladies, and little old you. In fact, it is very naive to trust the Secret Police period. Well, the Secret Police sure did bust you, a convicted pedophile! [...] They lied about me -- and they'd lie about you in a millisecond if their masters ordered them to do so. I urge you, and all conservatives, to see that Fetchit, although abominable, is not at all in charge of the regime. The regime is in the hands of our implacable enemies and has been for decades. Once we see and understand that, and not before, a solution becomes possible. http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/about/ http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/2009...-to-the-court/ With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 10:18 AM, dxAce wrote: Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 7:32 AM, dxAce wrote: Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind."[...] This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The [NSA] computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA It is very naive to trust the Secret Police (who nominally work for Barack Hussein Fetchit, but it's more nearly the other way round) when they tell you they are only looking for "threats" and that their fondest desire is to protect Amurrica, kittens, little old ladies, and little old you. In fact, it is very naive to trust the Secret Police period. Well, the Secret Police sure did bust you, a convicted pedophile! [...] They lied about me -- and they'd lie about you in a millisecond if their masters ordered them to do so. How did they lie, clown 'tard? YOU plead guilty! You can spin it all you want, Strom, but the fact remains: YOU plead guilty. You can play conservative all you want, but you are nothing more than a pedophile. |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most Expansive SecretDomesticSpyCenter in Bluffdale, Utah
On 7/28/2012 12:07 PM, dxAce wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 10:18 AM, dxAce wrote: Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 7:32 AM, dxAce wrote: Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind."[...] This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The [NSA] computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA It is very naive to trust the Secret Police (who nominally work for Barack Hussein Fetchit, but it's more nearly the other way round) when they tell you they are only looking for "threats" and that their fondest desire is to protect Amurrica, kittens, little old ladies, and little old you. In fact, it is very naive to trust the Secret Police period. Well, the Secret Police sure did bust you, a convicted pedophile! [...] They lied about me -- and they'd lie about you in a millisecond if their masters ordered them to do so. How did they lie, clown 'tard? YOU plead guilty! You can spin it all you want, Strom, but the fact remains: YOU plead guilty. You can play conservative all you want, but you are nothing more than a pedophile. Read the links. They lied in a hundred different ways. I pled to something I did not do so I could be a dad to my kids again, instead of never seeing them again before I die. I did so with the knowledge that the great unwashed would judge me harshly, but also knowing that the more intelligent people would understand that plea deals in our corrupt federal court system have about as much relation to reality as horseradish does to horses. This is worth reading too: http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/2012...-my-innocence/ I don't go out with large numbers of women (though I do go out again and again with the ones I really like), but the last three delightful charmers I've been privileged to see were 23, 30, and 34 respectively. Do I like younger women? Definitely. But a pedophile? Ridiculous. With my best wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpyCenter in Bluffdale, Utah
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 12:07 PM, dxAce wrote: Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 10:18 AM, dxAce wrote: Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 7:32 AM, dxAce wrote: Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind."[...] This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The [NSA] computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA It is very naive to trust the Secret Police (who nominally work for Barack Hussein Fetchit, but it's more nearly the other way round) when they tell you they are only looking for "threats" and that their fondest desire is to protect Amurrica, kittens, little old ladies, and little old you. In fact, it is very naive to trust the Secret Police period. Well, the Secret Police sure did bust you, a convicted pedophile! [...] They lied about me -- and they'd lie about you in a millisecond if their masters ordered them to do so. How did they lie, clown 'tard? YOU plead guilty! You can spin it all you want, Strom, but the fact remains: YOU plead guilty. You can play conservative all you want, but you are nothing more than a pedophile. Read the links. They lied in a hundred different ways. I pled to something I did not do so I could be a dad to my kids again, instead of never seeing them again before I die. I did so with the knowledge that the great unwashed would judge me harshly, but also knowing that the more intelligent people would understand that plea deals in our corrupt federal court system have about as much relation to reality as horseradish does to horses. This is worth reading too: http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/2012...-my-innocence/ I don't go out with large numbers of women (though I do go out again and again with the ones I really like), but the last three delightful charmers I've been privileged to see were 23, 30, and 34 respectively. Do I like younger women? Definitely. But a pedophile? Ridiculous. Jerry Sandusky apparently liked women as well... Nice spin, pedophile, but that doesn't work with the cognoscenti. |
Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and Most Expansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
On Jul 27, 8:21*pm, Truth Teller wrote:
"A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind." We speak with investigative reporter James Bamford, who says the NSA has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. The Utah spy center will contain near-bottomless databases to store all forms of communication collected by the agency. This includes the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails — parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases and other digital "pocket litter." "The NSA has constantly denied that they’re doing things, and then it turns out they are doing these things," Bamford says in response to NSA Director General Keith Alexander’s denial yesterday that U.S. citizens’ phone calls and emails are being intercepted. "A few years ago, President Bush said before camera that the United States is not eavesdropping on anybody without a warrant, and then it turns out that we had this exposure to all the warrantless eavesdropping in the New York Times article. And so, you have this constant denial and parsing of words." Watch the complete interview athttp://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest... Good stuff, this is what REAL not FAUX journalism is. http://www.fox19.com/story/19104797/...eater-massacre http://www.infowars.com/fox-news-cha...tman-massacre/ LMFAO!!!! "Democracy Now" (Hypocracy Now) is a Russian Today TV affiliate which spreads a unique brand of anti-American propaganda. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6891 http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1692 The Moscow-based "Democracy Now" has a larger staff than Fox News! "Russia Today" is only a part of the Russian industry misinformation and manipulation created recently in the USA by Putin's KGB. It is including the utilization of some American think-tanks and political scientists, their direct work up by Putin at annual meetings in Russia www.keywiki.org/index.php/Russia_Today |
Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and Most Expansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
Oh, I forgot to mention, the NSA is infected with Liberal Fascists
http://mrliberaltempe.tripod.com/ http://www.salon.com/2012/06/19/new_...ths/singleton/ One thing is always a given, Liberals avoid debating any issue on the facts and always screw them up or deliberately misrepresent them. Not sure which is worse, ignorance or deciept, but it is not hard to realized this country deserves and needs neither. Case in point is the Liberal lines on the NSA’s Terrorist Surveillance Program http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2716 |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most Expansive SecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
On 7/28/2012 3:39 PM, Hils wrote:
On 2012-07-28 17:03, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: The regime is in the hands of our implacable enemies and has been for decades. Once we see and understand that, and not before, a solution becomes possible. I'm curious about something to which you may know the answer. In the British House of Commons, Jews (most of them zionists) are over-represented by a factor of eight. (To put this into context, if Muslims were over-represented to the same degree, we'd have 200 Muslim MPs.) How does the US Congress compare? Last I checked, there were 13 Jews in the US Senate, an over-representation by a factor of about six and a half. In the Congress, there are 32, an over-representation of nearly three times. Of course, this overly large presence among "lawmakers," far beyond their proportion of the population, pales in comparison to their over-representation in the mass media, which is legendary and probably is on the order of 2,000 per cent. And it is largely the media that determine who will be elected and who will not. With my best, Kevin. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 3:39 PM, Hils wrote: On 2012-07-28 17:03, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: The regime is in the hands of our implacable enemies and has been for decades. Once we see and understand that, and not before, a solution becomes possible. I'm curious about something to which you may know the answer. In the British House of Commons, Jews (most of them zionists) are over-represented by a factor of eight. (To put this into context, if Muslims were over-represented to the same degree, we'd have 200 Muslim MPs.) How does the US Congress compare? Last I checked, there were 13 Jews in the US Senate, an over-representation by a factor of about six and a half. In the Congress, there are 32, an over-representation of nearly three times. Of course, this overly large presence among "lawmakers," far beyond their proportion of the population, pales in comparison to their over-representation in the mass media, which is legendary and probably is on the order of 2,000 per cent. And it is largely the media that determine who will be elected and who will not. Kevin, how many convicted pedophiles are there in the House and Senate? |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
dxAce wrote: Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 3:39 PM, Hils wrote: On 2012-07-28 17:03, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: The regime is in the hands of our implacable enemies and has been for decades. Once we see and understand that, and not before, a solution becomes possible. I'm curious about something to which you may know the answer. In the British House of Commons, Jews (most of them zionists) are over-represented by a factor of eight. (To put this into context, if Muslims were over-represented to the same degree, we'd have 200 Muslim MPs.) How does the US Congress compare? Last I checked, there were 13 Jews in the US Senate, an over-representation by a factor of about six and a half. In the Congress, there are 32, an over-representation of nearly three times. Of course, this overly large presence among "lawmakers," far beyond their proportion of the population, pales in comparison to their over-representation in the mass media, which is legendary and probably is on the order of 2,000 per cent. And it is largely the media that determine who will be elected and who will not. Kevin, how many convicted pedophiles are there in the House and Senate? I expect an answer, clown 'tard! Get your pedophile ass in gear! |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 3:39 PM, Hils wrote: On 2012-07-28 17:03, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: The regime is in the hands of our implacable enemies and has been for decades. Once we see and understand that, and not before, a solution becomes possible. I'm curious about something to which you may know the answer. In the British House of Commons, Jews (most of them zionists) are over-represented by a factor of eight. (To put this into context, if Muslims were over-represented to the same degree, we'd have 200 Muslim MPs.) How does the US Congress compare? Last I checked, there were 13 Jews in the US Senate, an over-representation by a factor of about six and a half. In the Congress, there are 32, an over-representation of nearly three times. Of course, this overly large presence among "lawmakers," far beyond their proportion of the population, pales in comparison to their over-representation in the mass media, which is legendary and probably is on the order of 2,000 per cent. And it is largely the media that determine who will be elected and who will not. Kevin, you're worried about Jews. I'm worried about convicted pedophiles such as yourself. Ya f00kin clown 'tard. |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most Expansive SecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
On 12-07-28 05:46 PM, Hils wrote: I hear and read a lot of stuff here about the "threat" from the European Union and the "threat" from Iran. The biggest threat I can see is from zionists who clearly want to ethnically cleanse and occupy all of the Middle East. What's Hebrew for "lebensraum"? Twenty thousand more settlements? Shouldn't take too much longer, now that the collecting of rainwater by Palestinians has been made illegal. mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQFH/lAAoJEDTMN7GV3zbXNtMH/2DVEczWVZjI8ehRfiRsXxj6 v+cYFN93aXBOPmmHHXfwxnQcTueRuP5sspiinJWSGgW4ePFRQX ED2CCgWecaRbO5 oXrlacFFdMf1RGGpCUx9y7/YYXPnLMpXokkHRaG8TmPzSPp5RLAXBH+kb1gUJ/jh MLYkNul5NhdaTn2jeR3p1p0dyaGDg4Mq4Qxy+FOafPDDQWn1ts NxYeAL91vRB1AG YgnFxrLxpM+L45xH6G1rzDFmCr71xixIyJzyLinQt6n+WGoztl HcevESGTB8UGtE O57Qm8KClSt/NY96YIVqBgsR1J7EH6b4KBRG2idsmaxo7aFrUEB3J/zdP+tumg8= =bcqx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpy Center in Bluffdale, Utah
On Jul 28, 11:24*am, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote: They lied about me -- and they'd lie about you in a millisecond if their masters ordered them to do so. Read the links. They lied in a hundred different ways. I pled to something I did not do so I could be a dad to my kids again, instead of never seeing them again before I die. This is an excellent example of state terrorism. So many people are rotting in American gulags because they were coerced into pleading guilty. "Would you rather plead guilty and do five years or fifty? It's your choice." Such a cruel gambit. Leon Trotsky provided many great insights into the use of terrorism in his treatise "Terrorism and Communism", a few examples: "But terror can be very efficient against a reactionary class which does not want to leave the scene of operations. Intimidation is a powerful weapon of policy, both internationally and internally. War, like revolution, is founded upon intimidation. A victorious war, generally speaking, destroys only an insignificant part of the conquered army, intimidating the remainder and breaking their will. The revolution works in the same way: it kills individuals, and intimidates thousands. In this sense, the Red Terror is not distinguishable from the armed insurrection, the direct continuation of which it represents. The State terror of a revolutionary class can be condemned “morally” only by a man who, as a principle, rejects (in words) every form of violence whatsoever – consequently, every war and every rising." "The problem of revolution, as of war, consists in breaking the will of the foe, forcing him to capitulate and to accept the conditions of the conqueror. The will, of course, is a fact of the physical world, but in contradistinction to a meeting, a dispute, or a congress, the revolution carries out its object by means of the employment of material resources – though to a less degree than war. The bourgeoisie itself conquered power by means of revolts, and consolidated it by the civil war. In the peaceful period, it retains power by means of a system of repression. As long as class society, founded on the most deep-rooted antagonisms, continues to exist, repression remains a necessary means of breaking the will of the opposing side." "Even if, in one country or another, the dictatorship of the proletariat grew up within the external framework of democracy, this would by no means avert the civil war. The question as to who is to rule the country, i.e., of the life or death of the bourgeoisie, will be decided on either side, not by references to the paragraphs of the constitution, but by the employment of all forms of violence. However deeply Kautsky goes into the question of the food of the anthropopithecus (see page 122 et seq. of his book) and other immediate and remote conditions which determine the cause of human cruelty, he will find in history no other way of breaking the class will of the enemy except the systematic and energetic use of violence." "The degree of ferocity of the struggle depends on a series of internal and international circumstances. The more ferocious and dangerous is the resistance of the class enemy who have been overthrown, the more inevitably does the system of repression take the form of a system of terror." The complete treatise can be read online at http://www.marxists.org/archive/trot...comm/index.htm Chapter Four: Terrorism is quite insightful and applicable to current circumatances. The title could quite aptly be "Terrorism and Capitalism". Lastly, don't let the loud mouth moron in the peanut gallery get you down. As you stated, the intelligent folks here understand that you were railroaded. I thought we established that fact a long time ago. Keep posting, your insights are among the few worthy of reading in this withering newsgroup. |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpyCenter in Bluffdale, Utah
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 12:07 PM, dxAce wrote: Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 10:18 AM, dxAce wrote: Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 7/28/2012 7:32 AM, dxAce wrote: Truth Teller wrote: "A new exposé in Wired Magazine reveals details about how the National Security Agency is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah, as part of a secret NSA surveillance program codenamed "Stellar Wind."[...] This is nothing new, or perhaps sinister. I recall reading "The Puzzle Palace" by James Bamford back in 1982 or so. The [NSA] computers (massive Cray machines) were simply programmed to look for "key words", perhaps like bomb, assassinate, etc., and then an alert to look at those things to determine whether there was some possible threat or not. dxAce Michigan USA It is very naive to trust the Secret Police (who nominally work for Barack Hussein Fetchit, but it's more nearly the other way round) when they tell you they are only looking for "threats" and that their fondest desire is to protect Amurrica, kittens, little old ladies, and little old you. In fact, it is very naive to trust the Secret Police period. Well, the Secret Police sure did bust you, a convicted pedophile! [...] They lied about me -- and they'd lie about you in a millisecond if their masters ordered them to do so. How did they lie, clown 'tard? YOU plead guilty! You can spin it all you want, Strom, but the fact remains: YOU plead guilty. You can play conservative all you want, but you are nothing more than a pedophile. Read the links. They lied in a hundred different ways. I pled to something I did not do so I could be a dad to my kids again, instead of never seeing them again before I die. Aw.... You might fool a lot of folks, but you certainly won't fool me! |
Exposed: Inside the NSA's Largest and Most ExpansiveSecretDomesticSpyCenter in Bluffdale, Utah
On Jul 28, 11:28*am, lard ass Lare wrote:
Jerry Sandusky apparently liked women as well... Nice spin, pedophile, but that doesn't work with the cognoscenti. You seem obsessed with the subject, an blatant case of "thou protests too much". When is the last time you had a date? With a real live female, not with you hand. No need to answer sailor, everyone knows the answer. |
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