RadioBanter

RadioBanter (https://www.radiobanter.com/)
-   Shortwave (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/)
-   -   What goes around... (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/204477-re-what-goes-around.html)

dxAce[_22_] June 18th 14 09:47 PM

What goes around...
 


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 2:52 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 3:36 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/16/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/14/2014 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:22:54 AM UTC-4, dave wrote:




Amendment 14 says we just have to be born here.
Are you an ex-slave ?


I am currently a slave.

To whom?

I think what he is trying to say is that he's a clown 'tard who just
keeps making bad choices.


Oh, iow a typical liberal who can't see the consequences of his voting.


There's a lot of that going around.


It's about to change - oil is due to double in cost after Iraq falls.

Oh right, that would be Bush's fault too...


According to some, EVERYTHING is Bush's fault...



Bill Davis June 18th 14 10:23 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/18/2014 11:10 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:
Snow in June. www.drudgereport.com Montana, Wyoming, Utah.


Global...'cooling'...

Bill Davis June 18th 14 10:24 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/18/2014 2:47 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 2:52 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 3:36 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/16/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/14/2014 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:22:54 AM UTC-4, dave wrote:




Amendment 14 says we just have to be born here.
Are you an ex-slave ?


I am currently a slave.

To whom?

I think what he is trying to say is that he's a clown 'tard who just
keeps making bad choices.


Oh, iow a typical liberal who can't see the consequences of his voting.

There's a lot of that going around.


It's about to change - oil is due to double in cost after Iraq falls.

Oh right, that would be Bush's fault too...


According to some, EVERYTHING is Bush's fault...


Including the boo boo on my knee, I'm sure of it ;-)

DhiaDuit June 19th 14 01:02 AM

What goes around...
 
Snow on the Equator, on top of Mountain Kilamanjaro, Africa. I think that is in Africa. I am too lazy to look it up, if you think that is something, (lazy ass me) you should see the tall high weeds in my yard. I might mow it Friday.

[email protected] June 19th 14 05:26 AM

What goes around...
 
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:24:12 PM UTC-5, Bill Davis wrote:
According to some, EVERYTHING is Bush's fault...


Including the boo boo on my knee, I'm sure of it ;-)


As is the "thrill up your leg".


[email protected] June 19th 14 07:13 AM

What goes around...
 
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:02:59 PM UTC-4, DhiaDuit wrote:
Snow on the Equator, on top of Mountain Kilamanjaro, Africa. I think that is in Africa. I am too lazy to look it up, if you think that is something, (lazy ass me) you should see the tall high weeds in my yard. I might mow it Friday.


That Old Mountain has barely any snow or ice left on the top, which may totally disappear within a few years. If one really wants to see it in real life - he would have to get up there as soon as possible! Before it is too late ...

dave June 19th 14 04:23 PM

What goes around...
 
On 06/17/2014 02:36 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/16/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/14/2014 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:22:54 AM UTC-4, dave wrote:




Amendment 14 says we just have to be born here.
Are you an ex-slave ?


I am currently a slave.


To whom?


I think what he is trying to say is that he's a clown 'tard who just
keeps making bad choices.



I have higher functioning autism spectrum disorder, but "'tard" works
too, as it is what is expected.

"Making bad choices successfully since 1949!"

Bill Davis June 19th 14 05:44 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/18/2014 10:26 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:24:12 PM UTC-5, Bill Davis wrote:
According to some, EVERYTHING is Bush's fault...


Including the boo boo on my knee, I'm sure of it ;-)


As is the "thrill up your leg".

I don't watch certain cable channels at all ;-)

Bill Davis June 19th 14 05:47 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/19/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/17/2014 02:36 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/16/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/14/2014 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:22:54 AM UTC-4, dave wrote:




Amendment 14 says we just have to be born here.
Are you an ex-slave ?


I am currently a slave.

To whom?


I think what he is trying to say is that he's a clown 'tard who just
keeps making bad choices.



I have higher functioning autism spectrum disorder, but "'tard" works
too, as it is what is expected.

"Making bad choices successfully since 1949!"



Well at least you have a medical reason for your poor judgment, but it
still hurts the nation.

DhiaDuit June 19th 14 06:43 PM

What goes around...
 
Do you watch Honey Boo Boo on TV? I don't. Doggy is watching Kangaroo movie on the FXM TV channel. Kangaroo, Maureen O'Hara, Peter Lawford. (1952) Turn of the century Australia is the setting for this standard cattle ranching western. Looks like a real Good movie. Doggy sure does know how to pick em.

[email protected] June 19th 14 07:09 PM

What goes around...
 
On Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:43:34 PM UTC-4, DhiaDuit wrote:
Do you watch Honey Boo Boo on TV? I don't. Doggy is watching Kangaroo movie on the FXM TV channel. Kangaroo, Maureen O'Hara, Peter Lawford. (1952) Turn of the century Australia is the setting for this standard cattle ranching western. Looks like a real Good movie. Doggy sure does know how to pick em.

Doggy is an Australian, I believe. Is she a mix/part Dingo?

DhiaDuit June 19th 14 07:41 PM

What goes around...
 
Blue Heeler, Australian Cattle Dog. www.cattledog.com www.acdca.org www.akc.org Google,,, Blue Heeler Videos Youtube. A Dingo Dog head fossil, five million years old, was discovered in Vietnam.

D. Peter Maus[_2_] June 26th 14 02:36 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/16/14 06:04 , dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/15/2014 4:40 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/14/2014 7:26 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 06/13/2014 09:17 AM, wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:29:12 AM UTC-7, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, the US Constitution. And the Federalist Papers.
What do the Federalist Papers opine about the qualifications to be President? Was there unanimous agreement, or was this another controversial issue?

AFAIK, the US Constitution says "natural born citizne", and the US Supreme Court has not yet spoken ex cathedra on clarifying the definition.


The Supreme Court has 2 blatantly corrupt Associate Justices and is an
invalid body. In a perfect world Scalia and Thomas would be in prison
licking their wounds.

In a perfect world Barack and Michelle would have already packed the U-Haul and been gone...


I don't think you can drive a U-Haul all the way back to Kenya....

I have to wonder if Barack even knows HOW to drive...


He seems competent on the golf course ;-)


Sure hope he leaves the White House soon and joins the PGA Tour...




What's not widely known, is that he can't play golf at most of the
better courses in the Chicago area. All but two of the North Shore
courses are restricted.



D. Peter Maus[_2_] June 26th 14 02:40 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/17/14 16:26 , Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/17/2014 2:52 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 3:36 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/16/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/14/2014 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:22:54 AM UTC-4, dave wrote:




Amendment 14 says we just have to be born here.
Are you an ex-slave ?


I am currently a slave.

To whom?

I think what he is trying to say is that he's a clown 'tard who just
keeps making bad choices.


Oh, iow a typical liberal who can't see the consequences of his voting.


There's a lot of that going around.


It's about to change - oil is due to double in cost after Iraq falls.

Oh right, that would be Bush's fault too...




Note also the ban on US oil exports has been relaxed. "Double" could be
optimistic.


D. Peter Maus[_2_] June 26th 14 02:42 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/18/14 16:24 , Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/18/2014 2:47 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 2:52 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 3:36 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/16/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/14/2014 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:22:54 AM UTC-4, dave wrote:




Amendment 14 says we just have to be born here.
Are you an ex-slave ?


I am currently a slave.

To whom?

I think what he is trying to say is that he's a clown 'tard who just
keeps making bad choices.


Oh, iow a typical liberal who can't see the consequences of his
voting.

There's a lot of that going around.


It's about to change - oil is due to double in cost after Iraq falls.

Oh right, that would be Bush's fault too...


According to some, EVERYTHING is Bush's fault...


Including the boo boo on my knee, I'm sure of it ;-)




New Executive Order, in pursuit of Agenda 21: You're only permitted one
'boo.'



DhiaDuit June 26th 14 03:55 PM

What goes around...
 
Only one Boo is permited? Ooooo, what will Honey Boo Boo do? Google,,, Honey Boo Boo Youtube

DhiaDuit June 26th 14 04:36 PM

What goes around...
 
Google,,, Aquiess, Inc. Also at. www.stevequayle.com

[email protected][_2_] June 26th 14 04:45 PM

What goes around...
 
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:59:39 AM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natura...citizen_clause



Alexander Hamilton, a Convention delegate from New York, wrote in
Federalist No. 68 about the care that must be taken in selecting
the president: "Nothing was more to be desired than that every
practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and
corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government
might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from
more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers
to gain an improper ascendant in our councils."[5

http://www.redstate.com/diary/ironch...ynch-v-clarke/

A quote from James Madison, popularly acknowledged as the
ï¿ 1/2 authorï¿ 1/2 of the Constitution, provides a clue as to what our
Founders meant. In one of his papers, dated the 22 May, 1789, he
wrote the following (emphasis mine):

It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance.
Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes
from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion;
it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be
unnecessary to investigate any other.


Maybe it is the 18th century Colonial English, but the quote from the Federalist Papers that you attribute to Alexander Hamilton seems like a justification for requiring natural-born citizenship. I do not see a definition of being a "natura- born citizen" in this quote.

The quote from James Madison is interesting, but he seems to be presenting it as his opinion, it covers some simple and uncontroversial situations, and he does not seem to be claiming the same authority to interpret the constitutions as John Marshall did in Marbury versus Madison. It does not appear to be a formal and legal definition that gives both the necessary requirements and describes any and all disqualifying conditions.

I still think the Rock Rat was wrong when he asserted that the definition could be found in the Constitution, and he was just bloviating when he claimed that it was in the Federalist Papers.

DhiaDuit June 26th 14 09:51 PM

What goes around...
 
Google,,, batr.org TISA

Bill Davis June 26th 14 10:45 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/26/2014 7:36 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/16/14 06:04 , dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/15/2014 4:40 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/14/2014 7:26 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 06/13/2014 09:17 AM, wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:29:12 AM UTC-7, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, the US Constitution. And the Federalist Papers.
What do the Federalist Papers opine about the qualifications to
be President? Was there unanimous agreement, or was this
another controversial issue?

AFAIK, the US Constitution says "natural born citizne", and the
US Supreme Court has not yet spoken ex cathedra on clarifying
the definition.


The Supreme Court has 2 blatantly corrupt Associate Justices and
is an
invalid body. In a perfect world Scalia and Thomas would be in
prison
licking their wounds.

In a perfect world Barack and Michelle would have already packed
the U-Haul and been gone...


I don't think you can drive a U-Haul all the way back to Kenya....

I have to wonder if Barack even knows HOW to drive...


He seems competent on the golf course ;-)


Sure hope he leaves the White House soon and joins the PGA Tour...




What's not widely known, is that he can't play golf at most of the
better courses in the Chicago area. All but two of the North Shore
courses are restricted.


I did not know that.

Can Rahm play them?

Bill Davis June 26th 14 10:47 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/26/2014 7:42 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/18/14 16:24 , Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/18/2014 2:47 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 2:52 PM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/17/2014 3:36 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/16/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/14/2014 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:22:54 AM UTC-4, dave wrote:




Amendment 14 says we just have to be born here.
Are you an ex-slave ?


I am currently a slave.

To whom?

I think what he is trying to say is that he's a clown 'tard who just
keeps making bad choices.


Oh, iow a typical liberal who can't see the consequences of his
voting.

There's a lot of that going around.


It's about to change - oil is due to double in cost after Iraq falls.

Oh right, that would be Bush's fault too...

According to some, EVERYTHING is Bush's fault...


Including the boo boo on my knee, I'm sure of it ;-)




New Executive Order, in pursuit of Agenda 21: You're only permitted one
'boo.'


Hoo boy, this is going to ruin Honey Boo Boo's career too.

Bill Davis June 26th 14 10:48 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/26/2014 9:36 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:
Google,,, Aquiess, Inc. Also at. www.stevequayle.com


Steve's research on the nefilim is an eye-opener.

Bill Davis June 26th 14 10:49 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/26/2014 9:45 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:59:39 AM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natura...citizen_clause



Alexander Hamilton, a Convention delegate from New York, wrote in
Federalist No. 68 about the care that must be taken in selecting
the president: "Nothing was more to be desired than that every
practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and
corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government
might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from
more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers
to gain an improper ascendant in our councils."[5

http://www.redstate.com/diary/ironch...ynch-v-clarke/

A quote from James Madison, popularly acknowledged as the
ï¿ 1/2 authorï¿ 1/2 of the Constitution, provides a clue as to what our
Founders meant. In one of his papers, dated the 22 May, 1789, he
wrote the following (emphasis mine):

It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance.
Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes
from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion;
it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be
unnecessary to investigate any other.


Maybe it is the 18th century Colonial English, but the quote from the Federalist Papers that you attribute to Alexander Hamilton seems like a justification for requiring natural-born citizenship. I do not see a definition of being a "natura- born citizen" in this quote.

The quote from James Madison is interesting, but he seems to be presenting it as his opinion, it covers some simple and uncontroversial situations, and he does not seem to be claiming the same authority to interpret the constitutions as John Marshall did in Marbury versus Madison. It does not appear to be a formal and legal definition that gives both the necessary requirements and describes any and all disqualifying conditions.

I still think the Rock Rat was wrong when he asserted that the definition could be found in the Constitution, and he was just bloviating when he claimed that it was in the Federalist Papers.


You find bits and pieces in the Federalist Papers, not a pure definition.

DhiaDuit June 27th 14 12:55 AM

What goes around...
 
BREAKING! There may be enough...... www.libertypost.org

m II June 27th 14 01:07 AM

What goes around...
 
On 14-06-26 07:39 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

If you look at the Nixon-Kennedy election, the vote hinged on Daley
being able to deliver Chicago. Record numbers of decedents voted in that
election.



That is grossly unfair. The yet to be born have as much right to vote as
the deceased. So, if decedent implies post death, we could use the term
'precedent' for those too early for the ballot box.

"Record numbers of precedents voted in that election.".....make you feel
all warm and fuzzy inside...like a balmy Holland Michigan evening.




mike




--
It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my
reasons for them!
--Friedrich Nietzsche

dave June 27th 14 03:41 PM

What goes around...
 
On 06/26/2014 02:49 PM, Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/26/2014 9:45 AM, wrote:



I still think the Rock Rat was wrong when he asserted that the
definition could be found in the Constitution, and he was just
bloviating when he claimed that it was in the Federalist Papers.


You find bits and pieces in the Federalist Papers, not a pure definition.


The Constitution is intentionally vague. This forces people to use their
own brains rather than pretending to know what words meant 220 years ago.



dave June 27th 14 03:43 PM

What goes around...
 
On 06/26/2014 05:07 PM, m II wrote:
On 14-06-26 07:39 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

If you look at the Nixon-Kennedy election, the vote hinged on Daley
being able to deliver Chicago. Record numbers of decedents voted in that
election.



That is grossly unfair. The yet to be born have as much right to vote as
the deceased. So, if decedent implies post death, we could use the term
'precedent' for those too early for the ballot box.

"Record numbers of precedents voted in that election.".....make you feel
all warm and fuzzy inside...like a balmy Holland Michigan evening.


These shenanigans pale in comparison to e-voting. Democracy is in chains.


[email protected][_2_] June 27th 14 04:19 PM

What goes around...
 
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:49:33 PM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
You find bits and pieces in the Federalist Papers, not a pure
definition.

Show me. I did not see it at all in the quote you provided.


DhiaDuit June 27th 14 04:38 PM

What goes around...
 
www.clarionledger.com Tea Party Leader Mark Mayfield. Over there at. www.libertypost.org Twitter and True The Vote, couple of articles.

D. Peter Maus[_2_] June 27th 14 07:03 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/26/14 16:45 , Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/26/2014 7:36 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/16/14 06:04 , dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/15/2014 4:40 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/14/2014 7:26 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 06/13/2014 09:17 AM, wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:29:12 AM UTC-7, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, the US Constitution. And the Federalist Papers.
What do the Federalist Papers opine about the qualifications to
be President? Was there unanimous agreement, or was this
another controversial issue?

AFAIK, the US Constitution says "natural born citizne", and the
US Supreme Court has not yet spoken ex cathedra on clarifying
the definition.


The Supreme Court has 2 blatantly corrupt Associate Justices and
is an
invalid body. In a perfect world Scalia and Thomas would be in
prison
licking their wounds.

In a perfect world Barack and Michelle would have already packed
the U-Haul and been gone...


I don't think you can drive a U-Haul all the way back to Kenya....

I have to wonder if Barack even knows HOW to drive...


He seems competent on the golf course ;-)

Sure hope he leaves the White House soon and joins the PGA Tour...




What's not widely known, is that he can't play golf at most of the
better courses in the Chicago area. All but two of the North Shore
courses are restricted.


I did not know that.

Can Rahm play them?


No.



D. Peter Maus[_2_] June 27th 14 07:11 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/26/14 19:07 , m II wrote:
On 14-06-26 07:39 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

If you look at the Nixon-Kennedy election, the vote hinged on Daley
being able to deliver Chicago. Record numbers of decedents voted in that
election.



That is grossly unfair. The yet to be born have as much right to vote as
the deceased. So, if decedent implies post death, we could use the term
'precedent' for those too early for the ballot box.

"Record numbers of precedents voted in that election.".....make you feel
all warm and fuzzy inside...like a balmy Holland Michigan evening.




mike





LOL!



D. Peter Maus[_2_] June 27th 14 07:13 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/27/14 13:03 , D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/26/14 16:45 , Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/26/2014 7:36 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/16/14 06:04 , dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/15/2014 4:40 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/14/2014 7:26 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 06/13/2014 09:17 AM, wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:29:12 AM UTC-7, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, the US Constitution. And the Federalist Papers.
What do the Federalist Papers opine about the qualifications to
be President? Was there unanimous agreement, or was this
another controversial issue?

AFAIK, the US Constitution says "natural born citizne", and the
US Supreme Court has not yet spoken ex cathedra on clarifying
the definition.


The Supreme Court has 2 blatantly corrupt Associate Justices and
is an
invalid body. In a perfect world Scalia and Thomas would be in
prison
licking their wounds.

In a perfect world Barack and Michelle would have already packed
the U-Haul and been gone...


I don't think you can drive a U-Haul all the way back to Kenya....

I have to wonder if Barack even knows HOW to drive...


He seems competent on the golf course ;-)

Sure hope he leaves the White House soon and joins the PGA Tour...




What's not widely known, is that he can't play golf at most of the
better courses in the Chicago area. All but two of the North Shore
courses are restricted.


I did not know that.

Can Rahm play them?


No.



Had a GM, who, at the time was married to a Jewish girl. Now, both
were wildly successful in their careers, both solid citizens. Could not
play North Shore courses because they were restricted. So, they played
public courses. She cut him loose, took chunks of his cash, so now he
can play the North Shore courses. But may not be able to afford them. :)

Some of the restrictions are being lifted. I was stunned to find
there were still restricted courses in this area.





Bill Davis June 28th 14 08:46 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/26/2014 6:07 PM, m II wrote:
On 14-06-26 07:39 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

If you look at the Nixon-Kennedy election, the vote hinged on Daley
being able to deliver Chicago. Record numbers of decedents voted in that
election.



That is grossly unfair. The yet to be born have as much right to vote as
the deceased. So, if decedent implies post death, we could use the term
'precedent' for those too early for the ballot box.

"Record numbers of precedents voted in that election.".....make you feel
all warm and fuzzy inside...like a balmy Holland Michigan evening.




mike


In Mexico they celebrate the dead by eating candy skulls.

LBJ would have liked that.


Bill Davis June 28th 14 08:48 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/27/2014 8:41 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/26/2014 02:49 PM, Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/26/2014 9:45 AM, wrote:



I still think the Rock Rat was wrong when he asserted that the
definition could be found in the Constitution, and he was just
bloviating when he claimed that it was in the Federalist Papers.


You find bits and pieces in the Federalist Papers, not a pure definition.


The Constitution is intentionally vague.


To promote checks and balances, yes.

This forces people to use their
own brains rather than pretending to know what words meant 220 years ago.


The core meaning is critical - read any SCOTUS ruling and stop being cute.


Bill Davis June 28th 14 08:49 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/27/2014 8:43 AM, dave wrote:
On 06/26/2014 05:07 PM, m II wrote:
On 14-06-26 07:39 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

If you look at the Nixon-Kennedy election, the vote hinged on Daley
being able to deliver Chicago. Record numbers of decedents voted in that
election.



That is grossly unfair. The yet to be born have as much right to vote as
the deceased. So, if decedent implies post death, we could use the term
'precedent' for those too early for the ballot box.

"Record numbers of precedents voted in that election.".....make you feel
all warm and fuzzy inside...like a balmy Holland Michigan evening.


These shenanigans pale in comparison to e-voting.


Yeah?

Proof?

Democracy is in chains.


Freedom is Biden it's time.



Bill Davis June 28th 14 08:50 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:49:33 PM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
You find bits and pieces in the Federalist Papers, not a pure
definition.

Show me. I did not see it at all in the quote you provided.

Read it again, I did show you.

Bill Davis June 28th 14 08:51 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/27/2014 12:03 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/26/14 16:45 , Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/26/2014 7:36 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/16/14 06:04 , dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/15/2014 4:40 AM, dxAce wrote:


Bill Davis wrote:

On 6/14/2014 7:26 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 06/13/2014 09:17 AM, wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:29:12 AM UTC-7, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, the US Constitution. And the Federalist Papers.
What do the Federalist Papers opine about the qualifications to
be President? Was there unanimous agreement, or was this
another controversial issue?

AFAIK, the US Constitution says "natural born citizne", and the
US Supreme Court has not yet spoken ex cathedra on clarifying
the definition.


The Supreme Court has 2 blatantly corrupt Associate Justices and
is an
invalid body. In a perfect world Scalia and Thomas would be in
prison
licking their wounds.

In a perfect world Barack and Michelle would have already packed
the U-Haul and been gone...


I don't think you can drive a U-Haul all the way back to Kenya....

I have to wonder if Barack even knows HOW to drive...


He seems competent on the golf course ;-)

Sure hope he leaves the White House soon and joins the PGA Tour...




What's not widely known, is that he can't play golf at most of the
better courses in the Chicago area. All but two of the North Shore
courses are restricted.


I did not know that.

Can Rahm play them?


No.


Amazing.

[email protected][_2_] June 28th 14 11:22 PM

What goes around...
 
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:50:35 PM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:49:33 PM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
You find bits and pieces in the Federalist Papers, not a pure
definition.

Show me. I did not see it at all in the quote you provided.

Read it again, I did show you.

I did re-read it. I only see a angument for preventing influence by foreign powers, and there is nothing here saying that this goal would be guaranteed by requiring natural-born citizenship, much less deifining what that would be.

The question posed by Joe from Kokomo was "Does anyone have a *definitive* answer? " and the answer from Rocky the Rat was "Yes, the US Constitution. And the Federalist Papers." You may have different expectations, but I think a definitive anwer should be direct, precise and concise, not scattered and inferential.

DhiaDuit June 29th 14 06:58 PM

What goes around...
 
Gaelic and Algonquin Similarities....... www.libertypost.org One of those posters said Redneck Riviera. HUMPH! He. Doesn't know sheet. I have been all along the Gulf Coast before, from Texas all the way to Florida's East Coast. There is no such place as the Redneck Riviera.

Bill Davis June 29th 14 07:16 PM

What goes around...
 
On 6/28/2014 4:22 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:50:35 PM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM,
wrote:
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:49:33 PM UTC-7, Bill Davis wrote:
You find bits and pieces in the Federalist Papers, not a pure
definition.
Show me. I did not see it at all in the quote you provided.

Read it again, I did show you.

I did re-read it. I only see a angument for preventing influence by foreign powers, and there is nothing here saying that this goal would be guaranteed by requiring natural-born citizenship, much less deifining what that would be.

The question posed by Joe from Kokomo was "Does anyone have a *definitive* answer? " and the answer from Rocky the Rat was "Yes, the US Constitution. And the Federalist Papers." You may have different expectations, but I think a definitive anwer should be direct, precise and concise, not scattered and inferential.

But that is the nature of the Papers and also the Constitution.

It makes checks and balances the keeper of the truth.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:10 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com