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Ross Archer[_3_] November 27th 14 03:17 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?

With the world market filled with good cheap shortwave receivers, any ideas how to persuade good content to expand or start? Some one-off like Radio Nikkei thing perhaps?

Listening to Radio Australia on 12065 Khz at the moment (1510), good signal: 45444. Antenna: indoor 25 foot loop, receiver: Tecsun PL-660.






Kevin Alfred Strom November 27th 14 08:59 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On 11/27/2014 10:17 AM, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily. Are you focused on DX?
Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates?
Utilities? Ham radio?

With the world market filled with good cheap shortwave receivers,
any ideas how to persuade good content to expand or start? Some
one-off like Radio Nikkei thing perhaps?

Listening to Radio Australia on 12065 Khz at the moment (1510),
good signal: 45444. Antenna: indoor 25 foot loop, receiver:
Tecsun PL-660.





Some of the things I'm doing, with recordings:

1) Sometimes transmitting and often listening to those who are
experimenting with high quality audio on SSB (called eSSB for
Enhanced Single Sideband). Examples:

http://liberty.3950.net/ESSB%203832%...41019%20am.mp3

http://liberty.3950.net/WB4AIO%20as%...%20sunrise.mp3

http://liberty.3950.net/K2WS-K4UU-NU...%20Hz%20bw.mp3


2) Experimenting with AM mode on the amateur bands. Examples:

http://liberty.3950.net/W4BVT%20K4KY...3885%20kHz.mp3

http://liberty.3950.net/WA1HLR%20W4B...3885%20kHz.mp3


3) Discussing current events and ideas on amateur radio's Liberty
Net and Survival Net:

http://liberty.3950.net/TheSurvivalN...rceN 2IRJ.mp3


4) Listening to DRM broadcasts -- including the BBC, Nigeria,
Romania, and others. Haven't made any recordings, though.


5) A fair amount of plain old HF broadcast listening, including
Havana, Germany, RAE, Vatican Radio, and many others, plus the
occasional pirate.


6) I don't know that this counts since it's not shortwave, but I've
also been exploring longwave with my Racal; hearing many DGPS
navigation stations, non-directional beacons, mystery signals, WWVB
on 60 kHz, teletype from Puerto Rico on 40.8 kHz, and from Maine on
24 kHz.


73 and all the best,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

The Late Arky Bob November 27th 14 09:41 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17:35 AM UTC-5, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?


Listening to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net.
With my Yacht Boy 400PE and my Tiny-Tenna.

Ross Archer[_3_] November 28th 14 04:30 AM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:41:40 PM UTC-8, The Late Arky Bob wrote:
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17:35 AM UTC-5, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?


Listening to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net.
With my Yacht Boy 400PE and my Tiny-Tenna.


I'm pretty sure you're not that late, as you're posting. Unless it's some kind of "Frequency" movie kinda thing...


Ross Archer[_3_] November 28th 14 04:47 AM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:59:10 PM UTC-8, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 11/27/2014 10:17 AM, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily. Are you focused on DX?
Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates?
Utilities? Ham radio?

With the world market filled with good cheap shortwave receivers,
any ideas how to persuade good content to expand or start? Some
one-off like Radio Nikkei thing perhaps?

Listening to Radio Australia on 12065 Khz at the moment (1510),
good signal: 45444. Antenna: indoor 25 foot loop, receiver:
Tecsun PL-660.





Some of the things I'm doing, with recordings:

1) Sometimes transmitting and often listening to those who are
experimenting with high quality audio on SSB (called eSSB for
Enhanced Single Sideband). Examples:

http://liberty.3950.net/ESSB%203832%...41019%20am.mp3

http://liberty.3950.net/WB4AIO%20as%...%20sunrise.mp3

http://liberty.3950.net/K2WS-K4UU-NU...%20Hz%20bw.mp3


2) Experimenting with AM mode on the amateur bands. Examples:

http://liberty.3950.net/W4BVT%20K4KY...3885%20kHz.mp3

http://liberty.3950.net/WA1HLR%20W4B...3885%20kHz.mp3


3) Discussing current events and ideas on amateur radio's Liberty
Net and Survival Net:

http://liberty.3950.net/TheSurvivalN...rceN 2IRJ.mp3


4) Listening to DRM broadcasts -- including the BBC, Nigeria,
Romania, and others. Haven't made any recordings, though.


5) A fair amount of plain old HF broadcast listening, including
Havana, Germany, RAE, Vatican Radio, and many others, plus the
occasional pirate.


6) I don't know that this counts since it's not shortwave, but I've
also been exploring longwave with my Racal; hearing many DGPS
navigation stations, non-directional beacons, mystery signals, WWVB
on 60 kHz, teletype from Puerto Rico on 40.8 kHz, and from Maine on
24 kHz.


73 and all the best,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Interesting.

I've always believed that AM mode is capable of good, high-quality audio when a modicum of care is taken with levels, equalization, and for dog's sakes, not overdoing the compression. (Compression is a rant-worthy topic for me. For a noisy HF circuit it's fine but get it off my local FM station please. Limit the levels to keep the deviation legal to the minimal extent required to stay legal, but don't do this to music.)

I'm assuming eSSB isn't related to reduced carrier SSB (that's a neat topic too), but simply SSB with more attention to equalization and distortion. A worthy goal, especially if you're trying to sound good vs. break through on a circuit where the S/N ratio is in the single digits.

Here's my modest proposal:

As HF frequencies for broadcast fall into relative disuse, why can't the FCC issue permits for a "hobby broadcaster" class of station (say 1KW or less) so schools and other non-profit organizations can develop on-air talent. Probably a lower band that would have a decent local coverage area would be best.

The proliferation of cheap SW-capable receivers like Tecsun PL-360 makes a service like this semi-viable, even in areas where FM is totally allocated and a third-channel adjacency is a pipe dream. A high school or college which didn't have the resources to do a full site survey and go through all the FCC paperwork could pick up a hobby license that would be good on say 60 meters with minimal concern about interference because the whole service would be predicated on "this is a hobby service and no guarantees of non-interference." Kind of like a secondary allocation.

Yet a 100 watt signal would easily cover a campus and nearby housing and provide some fun DX targets for those further afield.

Just a modest proposal etc.

All politics aside, thank you for your helpful insights!

-- ross











dave November 29th 14 12:38 AM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On 11/27/2014 01:41 PM, The Late Arky Bob wrote:
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17:35 AM UTC-5, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?


Listening to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net.
With my Yacht Boy 400PE and my Tiny-Tenna.


Working the world with 30 watts on digital HF

Ross Archer[_3_] November 29th 14 01:25 AM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On Friday, November 28, 2014 4:38:01 PM UTC-8, dave wrote:
On 11/27/2014 01:41 PM, The Late Arky Bob wrote:
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17:35 AM UTC-5, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?


Listening to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net.
With my Yacht Boy 400PE and my Tiny-Tenna.


Working the world with 30 watts on digital HF


PSK31? Or some other mode?

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] November 29th 14 02:40 AM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 

On 11/27/2014 01:41 PM, The Late Arky Bob wrote:
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17:35 AM UTC-5, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening
to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?


Listening to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net.
With my Yacht Boy 400PE and my Tiny-Tenna.


On 11/28/2014 7:38 PM, dave wrote:

Working the world with 30 watts on digital HF


What digital modes? PSK31, JT65-HF or JT9? Or dare I ask, plain old
green keys RTTY?


dave December 1st 14 02:23 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On 11/28/2014 05:25 PM, Ross Archer wrote:
On Friday, November 28, 2014 4:38:01 PM UTC-8, dave wrote:
On 11/27/2014 01:41 PM, The Late Arky Bob wrote:
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17:35 AM UTC-5, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?

Listening to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net.
With my Yacht Boy 400PE and my Tiny-Tenna.


Working the world with 30 watts on digital HF


PSK31? Or some other mode?


Yes. There are more efficient modes but not suitable for rag-chewing
(which I loathe) except for CW which I can only do by keyboard and decoder.

dave December 1st 14 02:29 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On 11/28/2014 06:40 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 11/27/2014 01:41 PM, The Late Arky Bob wrote:
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17:35 AM UTC-5, Ross Archer wrote:
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening
to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?

Listening to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net.
With my Yacht Boy 400PE and my Tiny-Tenna.


On 11/28/2014 7:38 PM, dave wrote:

Working the world with 30 watts on digital HF


What digital modes? PSK31, JT65-HF or JT9? Or dare I ask, plain old
green keys RTTY?


RTTY birds drive me nuts. psk31 is extremely compatible with neighbors.
It's the only HF mode I've tried. I use fldigi and can use dozens of
protocols, but you never know if anybody is listening inless you are in
the overwhelming most popular mode.

I am starting to warm up to 630m. The loading coils are the size of
water heaters. And the coils are what radiates unless you have a really
long wire.



Charly December 1st 14 05:32 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
Le 27/11/2014 16:17, Ross Archer a écrit :
Curious what people are doing primarily.
Are you focused on DX? Program listening? Obtaining QSLs? Listening to pirates? Utilities? Ham radio?

With the world market filled with good cheap shortwave receivers, any ideas how to persuade good content to expand or start? Some one-off like Radio Nikkei thing perhaps?

Listening to Radio Australia on 12065 Khz at the moment (1510), good signal: 45444. Antenna: indoor 25 foot loop, receiver: Tecsun PL-660.


Hi

I use it to listen to foreign radios :

- and get some point of view from external sources (example : the middle
east current situation described by KOL Israel and IRIB are a bit
different :-) )

- if possible get some DX (from France, I can listen to Australia, New
Zeeland, South America, ...).

Sometimes the BBC World Service broadcast is better heard from Ascencion
Island than England, but that's one of the properties of shortwave
propagation.... ;-)

Charly




Kevin Alfred Strom December 1st 14 09:38 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On 12/1/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 11/28/2014 05:25 PM, Ross Archer wrote:

[...]
PSK31? Or some other mode?


Yes. There are more efficient modes but not suitable for rag-chewing
(which I loathe) except for CW which I can only do by keyboard and
decoder.




Are you saying you loathe rag-chewing, or loathe modes that are not
suitable for rag-chewing?

All the best,


Kevin.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

dave December 4th 14 03:41 PM

What are you doing with shortwave?
 
On 12/01/2014 01:38 PM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 12/1/2014 9:23 AM, dave wrote:
On 11/28/2014 05:25 PM, Ross Archer wrote:

[...]
PSK31? Or some other mode?


Yes. There are more efficient modes but not suitable for rag-chewing
(which I loathe) except for CW which I can only do by keyboard and
decoder.




Are you saying you loathe rag-chewing, or loathe modes that are not
suitable for rag-chewing?

All the best,


Kevin.


The former. I am incapable of casual conversation due to my Ass Burgers!


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