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On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 6:38:03 PM UTC-5, Hils wrote:
On 30/06/15 19:05, DhiaDuit wrote: On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 11:54:32 PM UTC-5, wrote: After being off the air for about a year it is back. Not sure when the regular broadcast was resumed but I certainly couldn't hear it for a while. Lots of happy songs being played on 9420KHz ... UTC 0200-0400,then news in Greek. www.stratfor.com Beyond the Greek Impasse, by George Friedman Also, www.redpilltimes.com http://www.theguardian.com/business/...eek-referendum It's like watching a train crash in slow motion. zerohedge.com Greek Referendum Polls Close: delicast.com World TV, Greece, EKAT TV |
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On 7/5/2015 2:28 PM, Hils wrote:
"Investors simply didn’t expect such a decisive win by the no side, so there could be dramatic moves in tomorrow’s financial markets." Hmmmm...let me see if I understand this. 1) A country was financially irresponsible and got themselves in serious financial trouble. 2) Then the Euro zone made a very large loan to said irresponsible country. 3) Then the Euro zone is totally surprised that said financially irresponsible country defaulted on paying back the loan. 4) Said financially irresponsible country is now trying to dictate terms of yet another bail-out loan from the Euro zone (just in case neither side learned a lesson). WTF ?????????????? ....and round and round it goes. :-( |
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On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 8:34:32 PM UTC-5, Hils wrote:
On 06/07/15 01:23, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 7/5/2015 2:28 PM, Hils wrote: "Investors simply didn't expect such a decisive win by the no side, so there could be dramatic moves in tomorrow's financial markets." Hmmmm...let me see if I understand this. 1) A country was financially irresponsible and got themselves in serious financial trouble. 2) Then the Euro zone made a very large loan to said irresponsible country. 3) Then the Euro zone is totally surprised that said financially irresponsible country defaulted on paying back the loan. 4) Said financially irresponsible country is now trying to dictate terms of yet another bail-out loan from the Euro zone (just in case neither side learned a lesson). WTF ?????????????? ....and round and round it goes. :-( Greece was admitted to the Eurozone on the recommendation of a fraudulent report by Goldman Sachs. At the time Germany was happy to have Greece in the EU and EZ because much of the loans the Greek government of the time took out were spent buying German weaponry for the Greek armed forces. Other EU countries were happy because it kept Greece from forging closer alliances with Russia and China and made the EU look successful. The primary perpetrators are most of Europe's banks (plus Goldman Sachs) and governments. Most Greek people, along with most Europeans, hadn't a clue what their banks and governments were up to. Only 10% of the latest "bail-out" money (from European taxpayers) went to the people of Greece, the rest went into Europe's banks. Voila! The already fabulously rich have become richer at the expense of taxpayers who are paying through "austerity". Supporters of oligarchy are busy portraying the Syriza-led government (which has not so far been "leftist" by European standards but more like a coalition of social democrats and nationalists) as bumbling amateurs, but their honesty is refreshing, and they have probably done more for democracy this weekend than the EU has since it started. The oligarch media are already panicking. Oligarchs would rather have had a communist government in Greece than a patriotic, centrist alliance which had the temerity to ask the people what they wanted. It could still go wrong, but a fire has been lit. If a few banks get caught in the flames, we'll have made real progress. :-) http://wallstreetonparade.com/2015/0...greece-crisis/ boards.ie Greece Debt Crisis - Apres Oxi |
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In article , Hils writes:
On 06/07/15 01:23, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 7/5/2015 2:28 PM, Hils wrote: "Investors simply didn’t expect such a decisive win by the no side, so there could be dramatic moves in tomorrow’s financial markets." Hmmmm...let me see if I understand this. 1) A country was financially irresponsible and got themselves in serious financial trouble. 2) Then the Euro zone made a very large loan to said irresponsible country. 3) Then the Euro zone is totally surprised that said financially irresponsible country defaulted on paying back the loan. 4) Said financially irresponsible country is now trying to dictate terms of yet another bail-out loan from the Euro zone (just in case neither side learned a lesson). WTF ?????????????? ....and round and round it goes. :-( Greece was admitted to the Eurozone on the recommendation of a fraudulent report by Goldman Sachs. At the time Germany was happy to have Greece in the EU and EZ because much of the loans the Greek government of the time took out were spent buying German weaponry for the Greek armed forces. Other EU countries were happy because it kept Greece from forging closer alliances with Russia and China and made the EU look successful. It is stated differently he Greece produced falsified financial statements to prove they were on a sufficiently firm financial footing to fall under the Euro system[*], statements approved at Brussels by a process involving each contributor holding his nose as he passes a document on without ever pressing the Greeks concerening any of its more outrageous claims. More recently our media tend to merely claim they "lied their way in." George [*] Courtesy National Public Radio, not generally a bastion of conservative thought, although the program in question was produced by American Public Radio/Public Media, a Minnesota based producer of Public Radio programming that I would categorize as politically centrist. |
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On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 8:34:32 PM UTC-5, Hils wrote:
It could still go wrong, but a fire has been lit. If a few banks get caught in the flames, we'll have made real progress. :-) Goldman Sachs should be sued by Greece for its criminal activity. "Goldman Sachs is said to have made as much as $500m from the transactions known as "swaps". It denies that figure but declines to say what the correct one is. The banker who stitched it together, Oxford-educated Antigone Loudiadis, was reportedly paid up to $12m in the year of the deal. Now Jaber George Jabbour, who formerly designed swaps at Goldman, has told the Greek government in a formal letter that it could "right historical wrongs as part of [its] plan to reduce Greece's debt". See complete story at http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10381926.html |
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On 11/07/15 05:44, George Cornelius wrote:
In article , Hils writes: On 06/07/15 01:23, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 7/5/2015 2:28 PM, Hils wrote: "Investors simply didn’t expect such a decisive win by the no side, so there could be dramatic moves in tomorrow’s financial markets." Hmmmm...let me see if I understand this. 1) A country was financially irresponsible and got themselves in serious financial trouble. 2) Then the Euro zone made a very large loan to said irresponsible country. 3) Then the Euro zone is totally surprised that said financially irresponsible country defaulted on paying back the loan. 4) Said financially irresponsible country is now trying to dictate terms of yet another bail-out loan from the Euro zone (just in case neither side learned a lesson). WTF ?????????????? ....and round and round it goes. :-( Greece was admitted to the Eurozone on the recommendation of a fraudulent report by Goldman Sachs. At the time Germany was happy to have Greece in the EU and EZ because much of the loans the Greek government of the time took out were spent buying German weaponry for the Greek armed forces. Other EU countries were happy because it kept Greece from forging closer alliances with Russia and China and made the EU look successful. It is stated differently he Greece produced falsified financial statements to prove they were on a sufficiently firm financial footing to fall under the Euro system[*], statements approved at Brussels by a process involving each contributor holding his nose as he passes a document on without ever pressing the Greeks concerening any of its more outrageous claims. More recently our media tend to merely claim they "lied their way in." George [*] Courtesy National Public Radio, not generally a bastion of conservative thought, although the program in question was produced by American Public Radio/Public Media, a Minnesota based producer of Public Radio programming that I would categorize as politically centrist. Certainly Greece's government at the time wanted into the EZ too. All of the players involved wanted Greece in. Their reasons were different, but all wanted it enough to all hold their noses while they lied about it. The fundamental weakness of the EU was hidden in plain sight from the first union treaty: "The functioning of the Union shall be founded on representative democracy." Representative democracy invariably degenerates into oligarchy as interests which have no democratic accountability bribe, bully or blackmail representatives into implementing laws and raising and spending taxes in ways which favour the interests. Had the EU been modelled on the Swiss constitution, it would IMV have worked out far better for the majority of citizens. |
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On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 1:27:21 AM UTC-5, Hils wrote:
On 11/07/15 05:44, George Cornelius wrote: In article , Hils writes: On 06/07/15 01:23, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 7/5/2015 2:28 PM, Hils wrote: "Investors simply didn't expect such a decisive win by the no side, so there could be dramatic moves in tomorrow's financial markets." Hmmmm...let me see if I understand this. 1) A country was financially irresponsible and got themselves in serious financial trouble. 2) Then the Euro zone made a very large loan to said irresponsible country. 3) Then the Euro zone is totally surprised that said financially irresponsible country defaulted on paying back the loan. 4) Said financially irresponsible country is now trying to dictate terms of yet another bail-out loan from the Euro zone (just in case neither side learned a lesson). WTF ?????????????? ....and round and round it goes. :-( Greece was admitted to the Eurozone on the recommendation of a fraudulent report by Goldman Sachs. At the time Germany was happy to have Greece in the EU and EZ because much of the loans the Greek government of the time took out were spent buying German weaponry for the Greek armed forces. Other EU countries were happy because it kept Greece from forging closer alliances with Russia and China and made the EU look successful. It is stated differently he Greece produced falsified financial statements to prove they were on a sufficiently firm financial footing to fall under the Euro system[*], statements approved at Brussels by a process involving each contributor holding his nose as he passes a document on without ever pressing the Greeks concerening any of its more outrageous claims. More recently our media tend to merely claim they "lied their way in." George [*] Courtesy National Public Radio, not generally a bastion of conservative thought, although the program in question was produced by American Public Radio/Public Media, a Minnesota based producer of Public Radio programming that I would categorize as politically centrist. Certainly Greece's government at the time wanted into the EZ too. All of the players involved wanted Greece in. Their reasons were different, but all wanted it enough to all hold their noses while they lied about it. The fundamental weakness of the EU was hidden in plain sight from the first union treaty: "The functioning of the Union shall be founded on representative democracy." Representative democracy invariably degenerates into oligarchy as interests which have no democratic accountability bribe, bully or blackmail representatives into implementing laws and raising and spending taxes in ways which favour the interests. Had the EU been modelled on the Swiss constitution, it would IMV have worked out far better for the majority of citizens. theguardian.com Athens, Greece 3 December, 1944 |
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On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 10:08:19 AM UTC-5, DhiaDuit wrote:
On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 1:27:21 AM UTC-5, Hils wrote: On 11/07/15 05:44, George Cornelius wrote: In article , Hils writes: On 06/07/15 01:23, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 7/5/2015 2:28 PM, Hils wrote: "Investors simply didn't expect such a decisive win by the no side, so there could be dramatic moves in tomorrow's financial markets." Hmmmm...let me see if I understand this. 1) A country was financially irresponsible and got themselves in serious financial trouble. 2) Then the Euro zone made a very large loan to said irresponsible country. 3) Then the Euro zone is totally surprised that said financially irresponsible country defaulted on paying back the loan. 4) Said financially irresponsible country is now trying to dictate terms of yet another bail-out loan from the Euro zone (just in case neither side learned a lesson). WTF ?????????????? ....and round and round it goes. :-( Greece was admitted to the Eurozone on the recommendation of a fraudulent report by Goldman Sachs. At the time Germany was happy to have Greece in the EU and EZ because much of the loans the Greek government of the time took out were spent buying German weaponry for the Greek armed forces. Other EU countries were happy because it kept Greece from forging closer alliances with Russia and China and made the EU look successful. It is stated differently he Greece produced falsified financial statements to prove they were on a sufficiently firm financial footing to fall under the Euro system[*], statements approved at Brussels by a process involving each contributor holding his nose as he passes a document on without ever pressing the Greeks concerening any of its more outrageous claims. More recently our media tend to merely claim they "lied their way in." George [*] Courtesy National Public Radio, not generally a bastion of conservative thought, although the program in question was produced by American Public Radio/Public Media, a Minnesota based producer of Public Radio programming that I would categorize as politically centrist. Certainly Greece's government at the time wanted into the EZ too. All of the players involved wanted Greece in. Their reasons were different, but all wanted it enough to all hold their noses while they lied about it. The fundamental weakness of the EU was hidden in plain sight from the first union treaty: "The functioning of the Union shall be founded on representative democracy." Representative democracy invariably degenerates into oligarchy as interests which have no democratic accountability bribe, bully or blackmail representatives into implementing laws and raising and spending taxes in ways which favour the interests. Had the EU been modelled on the Swiss constitution, it would IMV have worked out far better for the majority of citizens. theguardian.com Athens, Greece 3 December, 1944 Greece, TV. www.delicast.com and www.zerohedge.com |
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