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[email protected] August 6th 15 05:18 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
Any devotees of David Irving's books here? I've not read most of his books but am impressed by his research methods. I have a question for anyone who is knowledgeable about his historical conclusions regarding the Holocaust. Chime in.

The power brokers have done a thorough job of nearly banishing his books from libraries. On the retail level the cost of his books are prohibitive. Costs range from $50 to $100 per book.

DhiaDuit August 6th 15 04:26 PM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:18:43 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Any devotees of David Irving's books here? I've not read most of his books but am impressed by his research methods. I have a question for anyone who is knowledgeable about his historical conclusions regarding the Holocaust. Chime in.

The power brokers have done a thorough job of nearly banishing his books from libraries. On the retail level the cost of his books are prohibitive. Costs range from $50 to $100 per book.


I like Robert Burns Poems, and Robert Service Poems. I have some of those Poem Books here.

[email protected] August 7th 15 03:42 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-5, DhiaDuit wrote:

I like Robert Burns Poems, and Robert Service Poems. I have some of those Poem Books here.


I'm more a Breaker Morant man myself. http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/author...ybulletin.html

[email protected] August 7th 15 03:46 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:42:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-5, DhiaDuit wrote:

I like Robert Burns Poems, and Robert Service Poems. I have some of those Poem Books here.


I'm more a Breaker Morant man myself. http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/author...ybulletin.html


....the Law of 303 !

[email protected] August 7th 15 03:57 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 9:46:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:42:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-5, DhiaDuit wrote:

I like Robert Burns Poems, and Robert Service Poems. I have some of those Poem Books here.


I'm more a Breaker Morant man myself. http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/author...ybulletin.html


...the Law of 303 !


Great movie!!! The chap who portrayed Morant's defense lawyer should have won an oscar for best supporting actor. You can view the entire movie free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZgNosQ8oCY

[email protected] August 8th 15 07:46 AM

David Irving the Historian
 

Checked more libraries and not one of Irving's 30 plus books were found. Wow. The "chosen ones" sure have done a thorough job scrubbing his scholarship from the general populace.

No worry. You can listen to hours of his excellent talks at https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...y=david+irving

I have learned more about World War II from listening to several hours of David Irving's speeches than I did in 16 years of government edjewcation, er, I mean education. Shocking eh?

Simon Mason[_3_] August 10th 15 04:32 PM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Saturday, 8 August 2015 07:46:33 UTC+1, wrote:
Checked more libraries and not one of Irving's 30 plus books were found. Wow. The "chosen ones" sure have done a thorough job scrubbing his scholarship from the general populace.

No worry. You can listen to hours of his excellent talks at https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...y=david+irving

I have learned more about World War II from listening to several hours of David Irving's speeches than I did in 16 years of government edjewcation, er, I mean education. Shocking eh?


Yes - I was in Auschwitz last month and it was obviously a post war theme park constructed by those Zionists and not a Nazi death camp after all.


[email protected] August 10th 15 08:11 PM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:32:27 AM UTC-4, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 8 August 2015 07:46:33 UTC+1, wrote:
Checked more libraries and not one of Irving's 30 plus books were found. Wow. The "chosen ones" sure have done a thorough job scrubbing his scholarship from the general populace.

No worry. You can listen to hours of his excellent talks at https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...y=david+irving

I have learned more about World War II from listening to several hours of David Irving's speeches than I did in 16 years of government edjewcation, er, I mean education. Shocking eh?


Yes - I was in Auschwitz last month and it was obviously a post war theme park constructed by those Zionists and not a Nazi death camp after all.

Auschwitz was partially rebuilt by the gov't AFTER its liberation in 1945.
That is Communist gov't. They hgaveactually persecuted all nationalism and Zionism in particular with utmost passion,though nowhere near as what went on under the Nazies...

[email protected] August 11th 15 06:34 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:32:27 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:

Yes - I was in Auschwitz last month and it was obviously a post war theme park constructed by those Zionists and not a Nazi death camp after all.


Mr. Irving completely destroys the Auschwitz hustle in this talk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLzTlfJNB4 He really is a brilliant scholar who relies on primary sources (letters, diaries, official documents) instead of lying and generally unreliable "eye witnesses" with agendas and legendary anecdotes!

He did something like 3 years in solitary confinement in Austria for having the courage to tell the truth. A very heroic and brave man.

France will still throw you in prison for years for daring to tell the truth that it was the Communist Soviet Union secret police who were responsible for the slaughter of over 25,000 Poles in the Katyn Massacre and NOT the Germans.
George Orwell was a genius.




[email protected] August 11th 15 08:14 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 1:34:42 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:32:27 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:

Yes - I was in Auschwitz last month and it was obviously a post war theme park constructed by those Zionists and not a Nazi death camp after all.


Mr. Irving completely destroys the Auschwitz hustle in this talk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLzTlfJNB4 He really is a brilliant scholar who relies on primary sources (letters, diaries, official documents) instead of lying and generally unreliable "eye witnesses" with agendas and legendary anecdotes!

He did something like 3 years in solitary confinement in Austria for having the courage to tell the truth. A very heroic and brave man.

France will still throw you in prison for years for daring to tell the truth that it was the Communist Soviet Union secret police who were responsible for the slaughter of over 25,000 Poles in the Katyn Massacre and NOT the Germans.
George Orwell was a genius.

Did France somehow become a Communist Dictatorship lately ???
In the infamous Katyn forest the total number of executed Polish officers was 4421 (from the 1959 official KGB records)... the rest were shot in several OTHER locations such as Ostashkov (6311),Starobelsk (3820) and several other locations in Ukraine and White Russia. The total number as per KGB- was 21857. Now - let's see, David Irving was 7(!) years old when WWII ENDED. What firsthand knowledge can he possess/obtain ? England was not invaded nor occupied, is he a joker or what else ? A revisionist ?? P.S. Incidentally, he spent only 12 months in jail in Austria- and not 3 years...

[email protected] August 11th 15 08:44 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 2:14:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Did France somehow become a Communist Dictatorship lately ???
In the infamous Katyn forest the total number of executed Polish officers was 4421 (from the 1959 official KGB records)... the rest were shot in several OTHER locations such as Ostashkov (6311),Starobelsk (3820) and several other locations in Ukraine and White Russia. The total number as per KGB- was 21857. Now - let's see, David Irving was 7(!) years old when WWII ENDED. What firsthand knowledge can he possess/obtain ? England was not invaded nor occupied, is he a joker or what else ? A revisionist ?? P.S. Incidentally, he spent only 12 months in jail in Austria- and not 3 years...


In 2006 Irving was sentenced to three years in prison for denying the "holocaust" in a speech he gave in Austria 13 years earlier in 1989. Ponder that for a moment; thrown in prison for saying something 13 years earlier. Wow.
If he did less than the three years he was sentenced he is no less a hero.

Don't know what your point is about him being only seven years old and England not invaded etc. is. None is germane to his credentials as a historian. Historians study the past by sifting through archives of documents and he travels world wide doing just that.

And no Irving is anything but a joker. He is a serious scholar who actually does legitimate research. The CONformist historians (emphasis properly placed on the CON as in CON artists) are the jokers.

Simon Mason[_3_] August 11th 15 05:38 PM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 06:34:42 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:32:27 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:

Yes - I was in Auschwitz last month and it was obviously a post war theme park constructed by those Zionists and not a Nazi death camp after all.


Mr. Irving completely destroys the Auschwitz hustle in this talk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLzTlfJNB4 He really is a brilliant scholar who relies on primary sources (letters, diaries, official documents) instead of lying and generally unreliable "eye witnesses" with agendas and legendary anecdotes!

He did something like 3 years in solitary confinement in Austria for having the courage to tell the truth. A very heroic and brave man.


He is as much of a fruitcake as the idiots who can "prove" the USA didn't go to the Moon.

Irving is just a poster boy for the modern skinhead nazis who want to deny what their hero Hitler and his cronies really did. Nobody of any note cares or believes what lies he spouts - he is an irrelevance.



[email protected] August 12th 15 04:07 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:38:38 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:

He is as much of a fruitcake as the idiots who can "prove" the USA didn't go to the Moon.

Irving is just a poster boy for the modern skinhead nazis who want to deny what their hero Hitler and his cronies really did. Nobody of any note cares or believes what lies he spouts - he is an irrelevance.


That's all you got? Wow. You "chosen ones" used to be much more creative with your smear campaigns. Childish name calling and invoking the "moon landing" line simply exposes the weakness of your case. Can't refute his scholarly research so attack the researcher. Very lame.

The government's of Canada, Australia, Austria, Germany et.al. sure spend a lot of money and resources keeping Mr. Irving out of their countries. That fact in itself makes Mr. Irving far from an "irrelevance". What are they so afraid of? The truth of course. Imprisoning individuals for thought crimes, as each of those nations do, is unacceptable.



[email protected] August 12th 15 07:33 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:07:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:38:38 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:

He is as much of a fruitcake as the idiots who can "prove" the USA didn't go to the Moon.

Irving is just a poster boy for the modern skinhead nazis who want to deny what their hero Hitler and his cronies really did. Nobody of any note cares or believes what lies he spouts - he is an irrelevance.


That's all you got? Wow. You "chosen ones" used to be much more creative with your smear campaigns. Childish name calling and invoking the "moon landing" line simply exposes the weakness of your case. Can't refute his scholarly research so attack the researcher. Very lame.

The government's of Canada, Australia, Austria, Germany et.al. sure spend a lot of money and resources keeping Mr. Irving out of their countries. That fact in itself makes Mr. Irving far from an "irrelevance". What are they so afraid of? The truth of course. Imprisoning individuals for thought crimes, as each of those nations do, is unacceptable.

Austria was occupied until 1955 by the Allies. They have a tremendous complex ... does anyone still remember of Braunau am Inn ?

[email protected] August 12th 15 07:50 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 1:33:31 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Austria was occupied until 1955 by the Allies. They have a tremendous complex ... does anyone still remember of Braunau am Inn ?


Nope. However, I do remember watching the 1964 Winter Olympics that were held in Innsbruck Austria. Black and white television coverage with Jim McKay. Doesn't get any better than that! I miss those bygone days when things were so much simpler, the world a lot less complicated and happiness not so elusive.

Simon Mason[_3_] August 12th 15 08:42 AM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Wednesday, 12 August 2015 07:33:31 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:07:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:38:38 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:

He is as much of a fruitcake as the idiots who can "prove" the USA didn't go to the Moon.

Irving is just a poster boy for the modern skinhead nazis who want to deny what their hero Hitler and his cronies really did. Nobody of any note cares or believes what lies he spouts - he is an irrelevance.


That's all you got? Wow. You "chosen ones" used to be much more creative with your smear campaigns. Childish name calling and invoking the "moon landing" line simply exposes the weakness of your case. Can't refute his scholarly research so attack the researcher. Very lame.

The government's of Canada, Australia, Austria, Germany et.al. sure spend a lot of money and resources keeping Mr. Irving out of their countries.. That fact in itself makes Mr. Irving far from an "irrelevance". What are they so afraid of? The truth of course. Imprisoning individuals for thought crimes, as each of those nations do, is unacceptable.

Austria was occupied until 1955 by the Allies. They have a tremendous complex ... does anyone still remember of Braunau am Inn ?


Yes - I was there last month after we visited the site of the Nuremburg Rallies, which were obviously huge gatherings of actors waving Nazi flags and not real Hitler fanatics.


DhiaDuit August 12th 15 02:39 PM

David Irving the Historian
 
On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 2:42:55 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 12 August 2015 07:33:31 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:07:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:38:38 AM UTC-5, Simon Mason wrote:

He is as much of a fruitcake as the idiots who can "prove" the USA didn't go to the Moon.

Irving is just a poster boy for the modern skinhead nazis who want to deny what their hero Hitler and his cronies really did. Nobody of any note cares or believes what lies he spouts - he is an irrelevance.

That's all you got? Wow. You "chosen ones" used to be much more creative with your smear campaigns. Childish name calling and invoking the "moon landing" line simply exposes the weakness of your case. Can't refute his scholarly research so attack the researcher. Very lame.

The government's of Canada, Australia, Austria, Germany et.al. sure spend a lot of money and resources keeping Mr. Irving out of their countries. That fact in itself makes Mr. Irving far from an "irrelevance". What are they so afraid of? The truth of course. Imprisoning individuals for thought crimes, as each of those nations do, is unacceptable.

Austria was occupied until 1955 by the Allies. They have a tremendous complex ... does anyone still remember of Braunau am Inn ?


Yes - I was there last month after we visited the site of the Nuremburg Rallies, which were obviously huge gatherings of actors waving Nazi flags and not real Hitler fanatics.


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