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Rf Probe January 9th 16 06:41 PM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
Starting at 1700 utc (+/-) daily a casual simplex USB
net takes place, no callsigns are ever used, just personal
recognition. No references to vessel names, or exact geographical
places, no lat/long etc.
This group of vessels comes up with causal chatter, laced
with profanity at times, close knit group. References are
often made about success/failure of fishing, gear, etc.
I'm curious, is this group of vessels participating in
illegal commercial fishing ? A clandestine communications
channel ?
Once, they went ashore and shot a moose and divided the
meat among several vessels. (the hunting season is closed
this time of year).
This 3824 khz useage is outside of the maritime ssb channels
from what I'ved googled and referenced in frequency lists.

Monitoring 3824 khz and curious .....

de
RF Probe
Anchorage, Alaska

fred k engels January 9th 16 08:08 PM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
poachers in the 80m ham band
"Rf Probe" wrote in message
...
Starting at 1700 utc (+/-) daily a casual simplex USB
net takes place, no callsigns are ever used, just personal
recognition. No references to vessel names, or exact geographical
places, no lat/long etc.
This group of vessels comes up with causal chatter, laced
with profanity at times, close knit group. References are
often made about success/failure of fishing, gear, etc.
I'm curious, is this group of vessels participating in
illegal commercial fishing ? A clandestine communications
channel ?
Once, they went ashore and shot a moose and divided the
meat among several vessels. (the hunting season is closed
this time of year).
This 3824 khz useage is outside of the maritime ssb channels
from what I'ved googled and referenced in frequency lists.

Monitoring 3824 khz and curious .....

de
RF Probe
Anchorage, Alaska



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Brian Gaff[_2_] January 10th 16 08:46 AM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
Yes, in Europe, I've heard this sort of thing all the way up to 3.4Mhz. Many
are in French around 3.2Mhz.
The English speaking ones are just apparently people on all kind of ships
and boats and often their accents are northern England and lots of
swearing.
I doubt if its legal, but on the other hand, does it really do any harm
either?
Brian

"fred k engels" wrote in message
...
poachers in the 80m ham band
"Rf Probe" wrote in message
...
Starting at 1700 utc (+/-) daily a casual simplex USB
net takes place, no callsigns are ever used, just personal
recognition. No references to vessel names, or exact geographical
places, no lat/long etc.
This group of vessels comes up with causal chatter, laced
with profanity at times, close knit group. References are
often made about success/failure of fishing, gear, etc.
I'm curious, is this group of vessels participating in
illegal commercial fishing ? A clandestine communications
channel ?
Once, they went ashore and shot a moose and divided the
meat among several vessels. (the hunting season is closed
this time of year).
This 3824 khz useage is outside of the maritime ssb channels
from what I'ved googled and referenced in frequency lists.

Monitoring 3824 khz and curious .....

de
RF Probe
Anchorage, Alaska



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Rf Probe January 10th 16 04:05 PM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
Informative comment Brian. I was curious if this was
a global trend, maritime comm's seeking "private links"
outside of the official maritime channels.
Today they are working on resolving some type of winch
problem on one of their vessels. Trying to avoid returning
to " Dutch " for repairs. Clearly they are referring to
Dutch Harbor, Alaska on the Aleutian Chain.

Strong Signals to all ....
de Rf Probe

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] January 10th 16 04:21 PM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
On 1/10/2016 3:46 AM, Brian Gaff wrote

Yes, in Europe, I've heard this sort of thing all the way up to 3.4Mhz.
Many are in French around 3.2Mhz.
The English speaking ones are just apparently people on all kind of
ships and boats and often their accents are northern England and lots
of swearing.
I doubt if its legal, but on the other hand, does it really do any harm


Does it do any harm?

If you are a licensed user of the frequency and the unlicensed ones are
jamming the legal users, that could easily be construed as "doing harm".

It comes down to laws versus anarchy.


analogdial January 11th 16 02:36 PM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
Joe from Kokomo wrote:



If you are a licensed user of the frequency and the unlicensed ones are
jamming the legal users, that could easily be construed as "doing harm".

It comes down to laws versus anarchy.


Do complaints routinely get filed to the FCC? Does the ARRL or somebody
keep a public database of illegal interference complaints?


analogdial January 11th 16 02:40 PM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
Hils wrote:

Ofcom are unlikely to take action unless they cause interference to
licensed users (eg aeronautical). Though I wonder if that would change
if instead of sweary trawlermen or the popular music playlists of
teenage nerds, the transmissions were focussed on political dissent.


In the US, dissenters can buy time on 100kW shortwave broadcasters.
They go by pretty much unnoticed.


Gladiator 2016 January 11th 16 07:23 PM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
Après mûre réflexion, Rf Probe a écrit :
Starting at 1700 utc (+/-) daily a casual simplex USB
net takes place, no callsigns are ever used, just personal
recognition. No references to vessel names, or exact geographical
places, no lat/long etc.
This group of vessels comes up with causal chatter, laced
with profanity at times, close knit group. References are
often made about success/failure of fishing, gear, etc.
I'm curious, is this group of vessels participating in
illegal commercial fishing ? A clandestine communications
channel ?
Once, they went ashore and shot a moose and divided the
meat among several vessels. (the hunting season is closed
this time of year).
This 3824 khz useage is outside of the maritime ssb channels
from what I'ved googled and referenced in frequency lists.

Monitoring 3824 khz and curious .....

de
RF Probe
Anchorage, Alaska


In Europe there's a lot of pirates around 3,4 MHz and fishermen uses
many frequencies out marine band.

Gladiator 2016

[email protected] January 16th 16 11:45 AM

3824 khz Maritime activity
 
Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, in Europe, I've heard this sort of thing all the way up to 3.4Mhz.
Many are in French around 3.2Mhz.


The English speaking ones are just apparently people on all kind of ships
and boats and often their accents are northern England and lots of
swearing.


I doubt if its legal, but on the other hand, does it really do any harm
either?


I had to Google it because it seemed so obvious that 3824 was
in the 80 meter ham band. Anyway, here are the ranges for that band:

3500-3800 Region 1 (Europe,Africa,Middle East,northern Asia)
3500-4000 Region 2 (including USA)
3500-3900 Region 3 (Asia-Pacific)

So 3824 is 80 meter ham band in the Asia-Pacific region and in the
Western Hemisphere. But the Aleutian chain is quite possibly in a
grey zone and the seamen are likely aware of that.

Considered as ham radio activity this 3824 usage is illegal since
no calls are being used. And it is rather obvious that these folks
are unlicensed.

George


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