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Super Pissed Dad July 11th 03 05:28 PM

SATELLITE vs TERRESTRIAL
 
Does anyone else think that the major media companies would find XM and Sirius
a threat to their advertising sales. They gotta be worried.The internet will do
the samething to televison and telecoms.

LaMar




Gary July 11th 03 11:18 PM

(Super ****ed Dad) wrote in message ...
Does anyone else think that the major media companies would find XM and Sirius
a threat to their advertising sales. They gotta be worried.The internet will do
the samething to televison and telecoms.

LaMar


Back in the 1950's many believed that television would put radio out
of business. And then there are those who thought that audio
cassettes and CDs would put radio out of business.

XM and Sirius aren't a threat to anyone or anything. Neither is the
internet a threat to television. No more than frozen dinners are a
threat to restaurants.

Ken Finney July 12th 03 12:19 AM


"Super ****ed Dad" wrote in message
...
Does anyone else think that the major media companies would find XM and

Sirius
a threat to their advertising sales. They gotta be worried.The internet

will do
the samething to televison and telecoms.

LaMar




Who do you think owns XM and Sirius?




Tom Randy July 12th 03 01:00 AM

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:28:23 -0400, Super ****ed Dad wrote:

Does anyone else think that the major media companies would find XM and
Sirius a threat to their advertising sales. They gotta be worried.The
internet will do the samething to televison and telecoms.

LaMar



Not yet but maybe some day. I will say this, I got XM radio last Saturday
and I absolutely LOVE it. I got SO damn sick of all the commercials on
regular AM/FM radio I could puke. They can eat me if they think I'm
listening to 20-22 minutes of commercials per hour. Screw 'em.

When sat radio first came out I said I wasn't interested. I was wrong, it's
absolutely fantastic and I highly recommend it. It's well worth the money
IMHO.

I can't see internet radio taking much away from AM/FM but Sat radio? Yes, in the
future unless the regular stations back WAY off on all the commercials and
I don't see that happening in the near future....


Sat radio rocks!

Tom Randy July 12th 03 01:02 AM

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:19:15 -0400, Ken Finney wrote:


"Super ****ed Dad" wrote in message
...
Does anyone else think that the major media companies would find XM and

Sirius
a threat to their advertising sales. They gotta be worried.The internet

will do
the samething to televison and telecoms.

LaMar




Who do you think owns XM and Sirius?




Go ahead, say Clear channel. They own a TINY piece of XM. Not much.

WShoots1 July 12th 03 07:45 AM

Sat radio rocks!

Until it gets popular. Then watch the commercials come.

Bill in Texas

Robert July 12th 03 10:36 AM


"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
Sat radio rocks!

Until it gets popular. Then watch the commercials come.


Yeah. These kids don't remember Olden Tymes, when cable was being
born.

"Do what? You want me to _pay_ to watch commercials? That's like paying
twice!"

"No, you don't understand - cable will be commercial-free!"

Hah.



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Tom Randy July 12th 03 01:33 PM

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:45:49 -0400, WShoots1 wrote:

Sat radio rocks!

Until it gets popular. Then watch the commercials come.

Bill in Texas



Maybe but people would bail on it if that happened.
It would be suicide, like what the AM/FM stations are doing now, commiting
suicide....

Dave July 12th 03 03:33 PM

They may not own much right now, but they have 2 people on the XM
board.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:02:15 -0400, Tom Randy
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:19:15 -0400, Ken Finney wrote:


"Super ****ed Dad" wrote in message
...
Does anyone else think that the major media companies would find XM and

Sirius
a threat to their advertising sales. They gotta be worried.The internet

will do
the samething to televison and telecoms.

LaMar




Who do you think owns XM and Sirius?




Go ahead, say Clear channel. They own a TINY piece of XM. Not much.



Robert July 12th 03 03:42 PM


"Tom Randy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:45:49 -0400, WShoots1 wrote:

Sat radio rocks!

Until it gets popular. Then watch the commercials come.

Bill in Texas



Maybe but people would bail on it if that happened.


Like they did with cable? No, wait....

It would be suicide, like what the AM/FM stations are doing now, commiting
suicide....


Stupid, short-sighted, unfair, bad for the consumer? Yes. Suicide?
Nah. The sheople won't even notice.



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Eddie Haskel July 13th 03 07:15 AM

XM is quickly approaching 1 million paying customers. Serius better get with
the program or prepare for a "Fire Sale" as I doubt they will make it. As XM
gets bigger...the competition seems to get dimmer and dimmer...Eddie

"Tom Randy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:45:49 -0400, WShoots1 wrote:

Sat radio rocks!

Until it gets popular. Then watch the commercials come.

Bill in Texas



Maybe but people would bail on it if that happened.
It would be suicide, like what the AM/FM stations are doing now, commiting
suicide....




Dave July 13th 03 03:22 PM

Ever heard of HBO?

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:36:24 -0400, "Robert"
wrote:

Yeah. These kids don't remember Olden Tymes, when cable was being
born.

"Do what? You want me to _pay_ to watch commercials? That's like paying
twice!"

"No, you don't understand - cable will be commercial-free!"

Hah.



Robert July 15th 03 04:23 PM


"Dave" wrote in message
...

Ever heard of HBO?


What of it?




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Dave July 17th 03 03:13 AM

Not the same vibe at all. Real commercials are meticulously crafted
to stimulate specific regions in the brains of ''consumers'' who have
been carefully cultivated to respond to the stimulus, since they were
small children. They are often insulting the very same people they
are motivating. That should tell you something.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:34:58 -0600, gray-beard
wrote:

Yes I have.
What do you think HBO is doing when they show you ten or so previews
between the movies? That's right those are COMMERCIALS.
Also why do you think they show previews of films that are in theaters
now or are coming out soon? You guessed it, more COMMERCIALS.
It's ALL about the money. The more they make, the more they want and
they will do whatever it takes to get yours.

Dave wrote:
Ever heard of HBO?

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:36:24 -0400, "Robert"
wrote:


Yeah. These kids don't remember Olden Tymes, when cable was being
born.

"Do what? You want me to _pay_ to watch commercials? That's like paying
twice!"

"No, you don't understand - cable will be commercial-free!"

Hah.





Dave July 18th 03 03:22 PM

You totally miss the point. You must be an AM radio fan.

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:02:35 -0400, "Robert"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
.. .

Not the same vibe at all. Real commercials


"Real" commercials? You don't think a paid-for-broadcast movie
trailer constitutes a commercial?
Easy way to settle this - just demonstrate that HBO doesn't draw any
advertising revenue.




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Dave July 19th 03 03:06 PM

Sorry Pal. I'm not in the target demographic and have never watched
''Sex in the City''.

Product placement is not commercials.

Commercials are scientifically designed little pieces of PsyOps mind
control with visual and audio cues to open certain ports in your
psyche. They are evil and should be avoided at all costs.

If I see a can of Coke in the movies I think: " tooth decay, type II
diabetes", and that's that.

I don't feel like I'm being screwed with on a sub-conscious level.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:17:15 -0600, gray-beard
wrote:

No, I think you miss the point.
Whether or not you get the "vibe" that it is a commercial, it still is a
paid for spot to sell something.
When you watch "Sex in The City", the main character opens up her pink
Apple Laptop computer for all to see. THAT is a commercial, paid for, by
Apple. She then gets with her friends and opens a can of Coke, another
commercial this one paid for by Coke-a-cola. Whether they bother you, or
not, is not the question. The fact is nothing on TV or Movies anymore
just happens. If you see a name brand anything, it is a paid spot, put
in that show and paid for by the sponsor.
When you see a short show between the movies. You know the ones. A
behind the scenes 30 minute exclusive about a movie that is now showing,
or about to be released. It may not give you the vibes of a commercial,
but HBO or Showtime, or whoever is showing it, either gets a direct
payment or gets that same movie for a reduced price when released to cable.
It's all about money.

GB

Dave wrote:
You totally miss the point. You must be an AM radio fan.

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:02:35 -0400, "Robert"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
...


Not the same vibe at all. Real commercials

"Real" commercials? You don't think a paid-for-broadcast movie
trailer constitutes a commercial?
Easy way to settle this - just demonstrate that HBO doesn't draw any
advertising revenue.




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