"WShoots1" wrote in message
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I've never heard mentioned anywhere what frequency they operate at.

Bill, K5BY

There's a few he

http://www.rf-id.com/toc.htm

Frank Dresser

"Frank Dresser" wrote in
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"WShoots1" wrote in message
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I've never heard mentioned anywhere what frequency they operate at.

Bill, K5BY

There's a few he

http://www.rf-id.com/toc.htm

Frank Dresser




You know what? We can drive ourselves crazy worrying about this kind of
stuff, or just accept it and get on with our lives. The current mindset in
Congress is paranoid in the extreme. They are giving the RIAA carte'
blanche in it's war against music sharers, and they will do the same with
any and all of this kind of intrusive technology.

If you walk into Walmart, you accept their house rules for the time you are
inside.

The best fight against this would be an orchestrated media blitz by some
watchdog organization. Most people don't even have a clue what this is or
why they should resist it. The second best would be thousands of well
written letters to Walmart from consumers, explaining that you will not be
spending any of your money there if this technology is in place.

You can always shop at the local mom and pop outlet, if Walmart hasn't run
them out of business. You'll pay more - lots more.

"donut" wrote in message
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in
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There's a few he

http://www.rf-id.com/toc.htm

Frank Dresser




You know what? We can drive ourselves crazy worrying about this kind of
stuff, or just accept it and get on with our lives. The current mindset in
Congress is paranoid in the extreme. They are giving the RIAA carte'
blanche in it's war against music sharers, and they will do the same with
any and all of this kind of intrusive technology.


Actually, the RFID issue doesn't bother me much. I don't think it's much
different than those security tags they've been using for years. I saw the
RFID website before, and for some reason, I remembered enough to look it up
quick.

The RIAA issue bothers me more, the RF interference issue bothers me more,
the feeling I have that voters can be swayed by a barrage of silly
uninformitave campaign advertising bothers me most of all.


If you walk into Walmart, you accept their house rules for the time you
are
inside.

The best fight against this would be an orchestrated media blitz by some
watchdog organization. Most people don't even have a clue what this is or
why they should resist it. The second best would be thousands of well
written letters to Walmart from consumers, explaining that you will not be
spending any of your money there if this technology is in place.

You can always shop at the local mom and pop outlet, if Walmart hasn't run
them out of business. You'll pay more - lots more.

There's three Wal-Marts within easy driving distance for me. I doubt I've
been there over a dozen times in the last dozen years. It doesn't appeal to
me, and I have no good explaination. Everybody is too happy. Like the
opening scenes of a Sci-Fi movie.

Frank Dresser

Many thanks, Frank. I've saved that URL for later looking.

Now, would an EMP blow out all the RFID's planned to be embedded in products
and in the new currency coming out? Maybe bar codes should be kept. They can be
read by a human, should scanners get knocked out.

Also, has anyone given any thought to what an EMP might do the microprocessor
in a newer vehicle's engine compartment?

Bill, K5BY

"WShoots1" wrote in message
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Many thanks, Frank. I've saved that URL for later looking.

You're welcome. I love the internet. It's just full of information. Some
of it's true!


Now, would an EMP blow out all the RFID's planned to be embedded in
products
and in the new currency coming out? Maybe bar codes should be kept. They
can be
read by a human, should scanners get knocked out.

Bar codes? When the EMPistas say we'll be taking the lightning express back
to the Stone Age, they aren't talking bar codes. We'll be back to the
skinny kid at the grocery store pop-pop-popping price tags on the cans.

Anyway, Alex Jones says they've been tracking the bills in our pockets for
years. They use plain vans, without any glass windows behind the driver's
door.


Also, has anyone given any thought to what an EMP might do the
microprocessor
in a newer vehicle's engine compartment?

Bill, K5BY

That's one of the EMP attack scenerios. If only 10% of the cars were
disabled during the rush hour(s), drivers of emergency vehicles would find
the streets impassable. But, as I understand, there's alot of EMP theory,
and much of it's unverified, and unverifiable, unless we start resuming high
altitude air bursts.

Of course, there have been reports of UFOs disabling cars years before
electronic engine controls and any knowledge of EMP. I'd like to think some
young Poindexter was leafing through the Flying Saucer magazines 40 - 50
years ago, and wondering how that could be done.

We do now have the High Power Microwave system, which is supposed to work
something like a narrow focus EMP. Seems they'd like to get the weight of
the system under 500 lbs. Get it under 5 lbs. and no RFID tag will be safe.
And under 50 bucks.

http://www.fas.org/spp/military/doco...s/ch100309.htm

Plenty more where that came from:

http://fas.org/

This is probably related to the car stopper gizmo they've been promising to
the cops for the last few years. Aside from the obvious cautions, such as
they ought to consider carefully before zapping some knucklehead's car at
120 mph or scrambling all the hard drives in a neighborhood, they also might
want to think about a having a trunk full of capacitors or whatever else
that's ready to discharge with more power than all the world's generators,
even if for only an instanteouneous flash. Yikes! Where's Ralph Nader on
this one?

Frank Dresser