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koala.bear \(Paul\) August 1st 03 08:59 AM

Sony ICF 2001 (1983)
 
Excuse me butting in here, but I picked up the group's name from a Google
search, and it seemed to be an appropriate place to ask this...

I have a Sony ICF 2001 which I bought new in the mid-80's. I used it a lot
while camping in New Zealand and outback Australia, but now, here in a
static-laden city, it just sits in the cupboard unused. It still works
perfectly, so I thought I'd offer it on eBay.

But I wonder, it being quite old in computer years, whether this would
actually be a collector's item as well as a functioning radio. There can't
be a lot of them around after all...

Should I go the 'whole hog' and list it as 'available worldwide' or just
locally in Australia? I'd like the old girl to go to someone who appreciates
it.

Thanks,

Paul



TL August 1st 03 11:10 AM

Koalas aren't bears.

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Spiritwalker August 1st 03 12:53 PM

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 06:10:35 -0400, "TL" wrote:

Koalas aren't bears.


No more than you're an Australian, a biologist, or an authority on
portable SW receivers. If you can't answer his question, why can't
you just take the slight effort to keep your fingers off the keyboard?

KB - See my PING back in the "home" newsgroup.

Bill


"koala.bear (Paul)" wrote in message
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August 1st 03 01:56 PM

"koala.bear \(Paul\)" wrote:

I have a Sony ICF 2001 which I bought new in the mid-80's. I used it a lot
... perfectly, so I thought I'd offer it on eBay.


Paul, just MHO, but the 2001 (a 2010 here in the States) I bought
new in the mid-80s still works perfectly also, and I use it
fairly often. :-) The last time I looked on Ebay, 2001s were
selling pretty well, so letting it be bid on worldwide might
be worth your bother. Either way, good luck!
--Ken AC4RD


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Enoon August 1st 03 02:35 PM

wrote:

Paul, just MHO, but the 2001 (a 2010 here in the States) I bought
new in the mid-80s still works perfectly also, and I use it
fairly often. :-) The last time I looked on Ebay, 2001s were
selling pretty well, so letting it be bid on worldwide might
be worth your bother. Either way, good luck!
--Ken AC4RD



Ken,

It is the ICF-2001D that is the same as the 2010, not
the ICF-2001. ICF-2001s show up with some frequency
on E-bay, and seem to go for something less then $100.
I don't think it is worth the hassle for the OP to
offer world-wide.


elg110254 August 1st 03 04:21 PM

Koala Bear Paul, Rainer Lichte, in his 1985 tome ' Radio Receiver-Chance or
Choice', said the Sony 2001's arrival four years earlier "caused a stir in the
SWL and DX community worldwide. What was previously only possible with a few
exotic and expensive receivers suddenly became a standard for portable radios:
direct access tuning by keyboard entry". Lichte also discovered that the 2001
"delivers quite useful swl performance ... The ICF 2001 is clearly tailored to
accomodate and satisfy the critical SWL". Portable useage has a caveat, though,
as "a fresh set of alkaline cells will be exhausted after only five to seven
hours". Sangean's ATS-801A was physically modeled after the 2001.

tommyknocker August 1st 03 08:14 PM

elg110254 wrote:

Koala Bear Paul, Rainer Lichte, in his 1985 tome ' Radio Receiver-Chance or
Choice', said the Sony 2001's arrival four years earlier "caused a stir in the
SWL and DX community worldwide. What was previously only possible with a few
exotic and expensive receivers suddenly became a standard for portable radios:
direct access tuning by keyboard entry". Lichte also discovered that the 2001
"delivers quite useful swl performance ... The ICF 2001 is clearly tailored to
accomodate and satisfy the critical SWL". Portable useage has a caveat, though,
as "a fresh set of alkaline cells will be exhausted after only five to seven
hours". Sangean's ATS-801A was physically modeled after the 2001.


I have an idea: why doesn't Paul list it worldwide using this sort of
copy-"groundbreaking radio", "first of a kind", "unique". Guaranteed to
get Americans into a bidding frenzy-look at the antique radio section of
ebay.



Mark V. Russo August 1st 03 10:04 PM

HI Paul, post it worldwide!! Why not?
A ton more people will see it and most likely bid!!
:-)

Good luck, Mark in New York
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"koala.bear (Paul)" wrote:

Excuse me butting in here, but I picked up the group's name from a Google
search, and it seemed to be an appropriate place to ask this...

I have a Sony ICF 2001 which I bought new in the mid-80's. I used it a lot
while camping in New Zealand and outback Australia, but now, here in a
static-laden city, it just sits in the cupboard unused. It still works
perfectly, so I thought I'd offer it on eBay.

But I wonder, it being quite old in computer years, whether this would
actually be a collector's item as well as a functioning radio. There can't
be a lot of them around after all...

Should I go the 'whole hog' and list it as 'available worldwide' or just
locally in Australia? I'd like the old girl to go to someone who appreciates
it.

Thanks,

Paul



Mark V. Russo August 1st 03 10:07 PM

And not only Americans! How much will you bid??

I have an idea: why doesn't Paul list it worldwide using this sort of
copy-"groundbreaking radio", "first of a kind", "unique". Guaranteed to
get Americans into a bidding frenzy-look at the antique radio section of
ebay.

tommyknocker wrote:

elg110254 wrote:

Koala Bear Paul, Rainer Lichte, in his 1985 tome ' Radio Receiver-Chance or
Choice', said the Sony 2001's arrival four years earlier "caused a stir in the
SWL and DX community worldwide. What was previously only possible with a few
exotic and expensive receivers suddenly became a standard for portable radios:
direct access tuning by keyboard entry". Lichte also discovered that the 2001
"delivers quite useful swl performance ... The ICF 2001 is clearly tailored to
accomodate and satisfy the critical SWL". Portable useage has a caveat, though,
as "a fresh set of alkaline cells will be exhausted after only five to seven
hours". Sangean's ATS-801A was physically modeled after the 2001.





matt weber August 2nd 03 04:42 AM

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:59:45 +1000, "koala.bear \(Paul\)"
wrote:

Excuse me butting in here, but I picked up the group's name from a Google
search, and it seemed to be an appropriate place to ask this...

I have a Sony ICF 2001 which I bought new in the mid-80's. I used it a lot
while camping in New Zealand and outback Australia, but now, here in a
static-laden city, it just sits in the cupboard unused. It still works
perfectly, so I thought I'd offer it on eBay.

But I wonder, it being quite old in computer years, whether this would
actually be a collector's item as well as a functioning radio. There can't
be a lot of them around after all...

Should I go the 'whole hog' and list it as 'available worldwide' or just
locally in Australia? I'd like the old girl to go to someone who appreciates
it.

Thanks,

Paul

Depends upon which 2001 it is. The 2001 D is known as a 2010 in much
of the rest of the world, and odds are if it is in good working order,
you can get more than you paid for it. The 2001D/2010 is actually
still being built as far as i can tell (but probably not much longer),
other variants of the 2001 are much less valuable.

john KB5AG August 2nd 03 05:53 AM

Knut; Sound is "tinny"? The 2001 sounds tons better than the 2010, it
has a real speaker, a decent amplifier, and bass/treble controls. I was
disappointed with my 2010 versus the 2001 in terms of sound.

I do agree with your other points, though. A 2001 will go for $50-$100 on
ebay.

John
"Knut Otterbeck" wrote in message
news:l8vWa.20650$KF1.308629@amstwist00...

The ICF-2001 was among the first digital radios back in '83. For the time

a
hot item. If you want , you can say this was the radio that "started it
all" - the generation of digitally operated/PPL radios. But not on par

with
the next-generation ICF-2001D (also called ICF-2010) , by now a legendary
performer...

In the ICF-2001 , the Keypad "hangs" after some years , SSB switch
(contacts) wear out , sound is "tinny" , the set is somewhat cumbersome to
operate ....

I would not spend much today on this model , but it's quite nice all the
same.


--

Knut Otterbeck
Oslo - Norway

http://www.geocities.com/grundig_satellit
Grundig Satellit info & Radio links
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"Enoon" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Paul, just MHO, but the 2001 (a 2010 here in the States) I bought
new in the mid-80s still works perfectly also, and I use it
fairly often. :-) The last time I looked on Ebay, 2001s were
selling pretty well, so letting it be bid on worldwide might
be worth your bother. Either way, good luck!
--Ken AC4RD



Ken,

It is the ICF-2001D that is the same as the 2010, not
the ICF-2001. ICF-2001s show up with some frequency
on E-bay, and seem to go for something less then $100.
I don't think it is worth the hassle for the OP to
offer world-wide.





starman August 2nd 03 08:01 AM

matt weber wrote:


Depends upon which 2001 it is. The 2001 D is known as a 2010 in much
of the rest of the world, and odds are if it is in good working order,
you can get more than you paid for it. The 2001D/2010 is actually
still being built as far as i can tell (but probably not much longer),
other variants of the 2001 are much less valuable.


The 2010 is/was a full coverage HF receiver, while some versions of the
2001-D have certain frequencies (bands) disabled. This is because some
countries don't permit their citizens to listen to police or military
communications. The 2010/2001-D is out of production as of January,
2003.


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matt weber August 3rd 03 04:42 AM

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 03:01:38 -0400, starman wrote:

matt weber wrote:


Depends upon which 2001 it is. The 2001 D is known as a 2010 in much
of the rest of the world, and odds are if it is in good working order,
you can get more than you paid for it. The 2001D/2010 is actually
still being built as far as i can tell (but probably not much longer),
other variants of the 2001 are much less valuable.


The 2010 is/was a full coverage HF receiver, while some versions of the
2001-D have certain frequencies (bands) disabled.

Hate to disappoint you, but I have the 2010 service manual. There are
4 versions of the 2010, and only one has full coverage (The North
American Version). The Saudi vesion doesn't have SSB or Synch or Air
band, and that and two other versions (European IIRC) have various
holes in the coverage.

This is because some
countries don't permit their citizens to listen to police or military
communications. The 2010/2001-D is out of production as of January,
2003.


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starman August 3rd 03 08:35 AM

I have the service manual too. The versions with blocked coverage were
sold as the 2001-D, regardless of what the manual says. There is *one*
version of the 2010 for North America and *three* versions of the 2001-D
for the rest of the world.

Go to:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/snaray...2010_spec.html

BTW- I'm not the least disappointed.

matt weber wrote:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 03:01:38 -0400, starman wrote:

matt weber wrote:


Depends upon which 2001 it is. The 2001 D is known as a 2010 in much
of the rest of the world, and odds are if it is in good working order,
you can get more than you paid for it. The 2001D/2010 is actually
still being built as far as i can tell (but probably not much longer),
other variants of the 2001 are much less valuable.


The 2010 is/was a full coverage HF receiver, while some versions of the
2001-D have certain frequencies (bands) disabled.


Hate to disappoint you, but I have the 2010 service manual. There are
4 versions of the 2010, and only one has full coverage (The North
American Version). The Saudi vesion doesn't have SSB or Synch or Air
band, and that and two other versions (European IIRC) have various
holes in the coverage.

This is because some
countries don't permit their citizens to listen to police or military
communications. The 2010/2001-D is out of production as of January,
2003.



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