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Uncle Jizzie September 7th 03 06:33 AM

Yet more eBay shenanigans
 
You can buy a brand new MFJ 1020B Active Antenna directly from MFJ for
$79.95, or.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051



RHF September 7th 03 02:20 PM

= = = "Uncle Jizzie"
= = = wrote in message ...
You can buy a brand new MFJ 1020B Active Antenna directly from MFJ for
$79.95, or.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051


FYI: MFJ-1020"C" is the latest Model Number of this Active Antenna by "MFJ".


? Why is eBay 'Better Than' Gambling ?
- - - Because Gambling is Win & Lose and eBay is Win & Win.

In Gambling - You Place Your Bet:
- Sometimes You Win The Money.
- - Then again many times You Lose Your Money.

On eBay Auctions - You Place Your Bid (Bet).
- Sometimes You Win Your eBay Item.
- - Then again You Never Lose Your Money.

NOTE: On eBay Auctions - You Always Get Something of Value
- - - The ITEM -or- Your MONEY !


When It Comes to 'Bidding' on eBay: To Me Its Like Playing Cards.
The Excitement can be Being-In-the-Game.
Peeking at the Sellers Hold Card (Reserve Price) and Calling the Other Guys Bluff.
However, If I Want the Item {I Can Taste the "BUY" Coming On} :
Then It is a Different Ball Game; With Two Minutes to Go;
Throw One Big Bomb (Hail Mary Pass) and Score a Touch Down and Win the Game.
(If Not... Oh Well there is Always the Next Auction).
- - - Smell That BUY !

Maximum Bid Reality Check for eBAYers:
- If the Item is still available commercially.
- - Then the 70% of MSRP rule should apply.
- - - It is Truly Sad to See Someone Bid More Than Retail.
- - - - For Non-Collectibles With NO Manufactures Warranty or Guaranty.

Zero (0) Bidders Warning and Low eBay Member's Score Caution for eBayers:
If you are Bidding in an eBay Auction Against a 'New' eBayer:
With -O^O- 30 Day Marker and a Zero (0) Score.
Be Advised and Warned - They Want to Make their Mark and Win an Auction.
They Will Bid High and Often Over Bid an Item
To Bid Against Them Is a Fools Game
This Caution generally Applies to eBayers with a Score Under Ten (10) Too!


The Best of Good Buys ~ RHF
aka: The Royster -&- The RoyceMeister

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I. P. Yurin September 7th 03 05:02 PM

You can buy a brand new MFJ 1020B Active Antenna directly from MFJ for
$79.95, or.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051


This is great news! I've got a 1020B here that I never use. Now I can
auction it off and buy a new refrigerator.

--
Col. I.P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)

Rich M September 7th 03 05:11 PM

Remember the immortal (alleged) words of P.T. Barnum !

"Uncle Jizzie" wrote in message
...
You can buy a brand new MFJ 1020B Active Antenna directly from MFJ for
$79.95, or.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051




Randy Padawer September 7th 03 07:25 PM

Hi, RHF, I think you're right usually regarding the 70% of retail as a
maximum guideline for eBay bidding, but there are exceptions when an
item is not readily available although purportedly still in
production. In late July I paid about $120 on eBay for a Sony AN-LP1
(retail ~$85 if you can find one). I notice that there's another one
on eBay right now which has already bid up past that with another day
and a half left in the bidding (up to $122.50 as I write this).
Here's a link to that exciting auction, LOL:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3044664623

Anyway, I agree with your guideline 99% of the time, and of course I
realize that some may think me foolish to pay that 50% penalty, but I
really wanted the item. Put differently, maybe I had more money than
sense. :-) Still, I enjoy the AN-LP1 very much when traveling.

Randy


(RHF) wrote in message om...
= = = "Uncle Jizzie"
= = = wrote in message ...
You can buy a brand new MFJ 1020B Active Antenna directly from MFJ for
$79.95, or.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051
FYI: MFJ-1020"C" is the latest Model Number of this Active Antenna by "MFJ".
? Why is eBay 'Better Than' Gambling ?
- - - Because Gambling is Win & Lose and eBay is Win & Win.

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Diverd4777 September 7th 03 08:03 PM

- Possibly some people are doing ALL their shopping on ebay or doen't know
things can be bought elsewhere.

- Wierd . . .

In article ,
(Randy Padawer) writes:


Anyway, I agree with your guideline 99% of the time, and of course I
realize that some may think me foolish to pay that 50% penalty, but I
really wanted the item. Put differently, maybe I had more money than
sense. :-) Still, I enjoy the AN-LP1 very much when traveling.

Randy




Rich M September 8th 03 01:23 AM

The probability that some shenanigans were
taking place would not suprise me in the
very least Lee. I have heard at many a hamfest
that "so and so dealer(s)" who used to show up
at *every* ham flea market East of the Mississippi
are now selling on e-Bay amongst a 'syndicate'
of dealers who have multiple e-Bay accounts
and routinely shill-up the price of each others
respective auction(s).

(....of course Lee, I would NEVER believe that
small groups of former 'gypsy' hamfest radio
dealers would engage in anything (alleged) like this! )

"Lee Smith" wrote in message ...
Maybe the title of this thread should have been "More Stupid People Who
Haven't Got A Clue About What They Are Buying Are Over-Bidding Yet Again On
E-Bay" which would better reflect what is happening here.....I don't think
it is a shenanigan at all. That would indicate to me another scam or fraud
scheme.

73
Lee



starman September 8th 03 07:29 AM

Diverd4777 wrote:

- Possibly some people are doing ALL their shopping on ebay or doen't know
things can be bought elsewhere.

- Wierd . . .


There are many people that live in parts of the world where common
products by western standards are hard get, so they shop for them on
Ebay. Having said that, I still think there's a lot of 'shill bidding'
taking place on Ebay.


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BDK September 8th 03 12:03 PM

In article , says...
Diverd4777 wrote:

- Possibly some people are doing ALL their shopping on ebay or doen't know
things can be bought elsewhere.

- Wierd . . .


There are many people that live in parts of the world where common
products by western standards are hard get, so they shop for them on
Ebay. Having said that, I still think there's a lot of 'shill bidding'
taking place on Ebay.


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I was bidding (not on ebay) on a laptop a while back, and there were 28
available. I started out #20, went up to #7, then the auction "ended"
and the price went up over 200 bucks, and I stopped at a little over 100
more than it was when the auction "ended". All the raising bids were
from California, where the company having the auction was, and the
pattern looked suspicious. I was 22 and dropping like a rock when I
logged off to go get dinner. I was kind of shocked to find a message in
my email congrating me as one of the winning bidders. I was tied with a
guy in my town at #15.

I was kind of paranoid, but went through with the deal. The laptop was
fine, and has an LT Winmodem that works better than any I have ever
used, on any machine!

BDK

Lee Smith September 9th 03 12:00 AM

While there is no shortage of detractors on this and other newsgroups
regarding EBay, I have had generally excellent "luck" with buying through
that site on about a dozen items ranging from ham radio, to model railroad
stuff, FM radio broadcast equipment, to radio controlled model airplane
equipment.

Only once have I been less than satisfied, and that was due to the seller
sending the item in a poorly packed box with newspaper as the packing
material and a few items inside the equipment case came loose and rattled
around. About 5 minutes with a screwdriver completely fixed the problem
luckily enough.

If you know what you want, and set a personal maximum for price, then
tightly slam the wallet closed when that limit is reached, I don't see the
problem with the selling prices obtained on EBay. Frankly, if I were
selling something, I'd look to get as much as the general traffic will bear.

Heaven forbid that I should meet an untimely death, but if my "prized toys"
were being sold off so my wife could pay bills, I would hope that the
executor of my estate would be out to maximize the cash return for her to
the greatest extent possible.

If you get caught up in some kind of uncontrollable bidding frenzy because
of the "fun" you're having, or don't have a clue as to the proper value of
an item, then you have other problems on the go. The very existance of EBay
isn't the cause of it.

Lee




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