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RedOctober90 September 30th 03 03:59 AM

Jewish Pirate Station? 1710
 
Hi list

I became aware of a Jewish station transmitting somewhere from
Brooklyn NY recently. Tonight around 0230z, I used my DX-398 and my
RadioShack loop and tuned to 1710 sure enough, when nulling out all
the electrical buzzes I heard some music possibly in Hebrew, music
sounded as if it had something to do with that. After that at 0235z,
some guy talking for like 20 minutes or more. Sounds indeed like
Hebrew to me.

Anyone have any info?


73

Gray Shockley September 30th 03 04:08 AM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:59:26 -0500, RedOctober90 wrote
(in message ) :

Hi list

I became aware of a Jewish station transmitting somewhere from
Brooklyn NY recently. Tonight around 0230z, I used my DX-398 and my
RadioShack loop and tuned to 1710 sure enough, when nulling out all
the electrical buzzes I heard some music possibly in Hebrew, music
sounded as if it had something to do with that. After that at 0235z,
some guy talking for like 20 minutes or more. Sounds indeed like
Hebrew to me.

Anyone have any info?


73


--------------------------------------------------------

Hm,m,m - here we have an "endless loop" on a 1/10th watt station with tourist
info on it at 1710. The sig is, normally, good for about two miles (on car
radio).

How far are you from Brooklyn?

Also, it might be kinda nifty to, periodically, check very-lo MW and very
high-mw (but not for me sigh, I'm almost on top of the local one - about
four blocks).



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US



N8KDV September 30th 03 08:36 AM



RedOctober90 wrote:

Hi list

I became aware of a Jewish station transmitting somewhere from
Brooklyn NY recently. Tonight around 0230z, I used my DX-398 and my
RadioShack loop and tuned to 1710 sure enough, when nulling out all
the electrical buzzes I heard some music possibly in Hebrew, music
sounded as if it had something to do with that. After that at 0235z,
some guy talking for like 20 minutes or more. Sounds indeed like
Hebrew to me.

Anyone have any info?

73


Do a Google search for "LUBAVITCHER RADIO", Glenn Hauser mentioned this
some time back. It is in Brooklyn.

Steve
Holland, MI

Drake R7, R8, R8B and Yaesu FRG-7700



Comet Kohuoteck September 30th 03 03:07 PM


It's a micropower station located in Crown Heights
(Brooklyn) NY. Run by an x-treme Hassidic sect.
The locals call it "Radio Free Lubavich" (the transmitter
is turned off on Saturdays - get it?)


"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
Hi list

I became aware of a Jewish station transmitting somewhere from
Brooklyn NY recently. Tonight around 0230z, I used my DX-398 and my
RadioShack loop and tuned to 1710 sure enough, when nulling out all
the electrical buzzes I heard some music possibly in Hebrew, music
sounded as if it had something to do with that. After that at 0235z,
some guy talking for like 20 minutes or more. Sounds indeed like
Hebrew to me.

Anyone have any info?


73



RedOctober90 September 30th 03 08:03 PM

Gray Shockley wrote in message ...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:59:26 -0500, RedOctober90 wrote
(in message ) :

Hi list

I became aware of a Jewish station transmitting somewhere from
Brooklyn NY recently. Tonight around 0230z, I used my DX-398 and my
RadioShack loop and tuned to 1710 sure enough, when nulling out all
the electrical buzzes I heard some music possibly in Hebrew, music
sounded as if it had something to do with that. After that at 0235z,
some guy talking for like 20 minutes or more. Sounds indeed like
Hebrew to me.

Anyone have any info?


73


--------------------------------------------------------

Hm,m,m - here we have an "endless loop" on a 1/10th watt station with tourist
info on it at 1710. The sig is, normally, good for about two miles (on car
radio).

How far are you from Brooklyn?

Also, it might be kinda nifty to, periodically, check very-lo MW and very
high-mw (but not for me sigh, I'm almost on top of the local one - about
four blocks).



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US



I am located in Northeast PA. It definately isn't a travel info
station. I don't think they play Jewish ethnic music :D

tommyknocker September 30th 03 09:31 PM

Comet Kohuoteck wrote:


It's a micropower station located in Crown Heights
(Brooklyn) NY. Run by an x-treme Hassidic sect.
The locals call it "Radio Free Lubavich" (the transmitter
is turned off on Saturdays - get it?)


We're talking about people who don't drive or cook or even tear toilet
paper off its roll on Shabbat (Saturday) because God rested on Shabbat
and so they can't do anything that resembles effort on Saturday. In
Israel, ultraorthodox Jews regularly stone cars whose drivers have the
misfortune to find themselves driving in the neighborhoods on Saturday.
The men spend all their time studying Talmud and make the women work to
pay their bills. Even Jews have weird religious beliefs. :)



"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
Hi list

I became aware of a Jewish station transmitting somewhere from
Brooklyn NY recently. Tonight around 0230z, I used my DX-398 and my
RadioShack loop and tuned to 1710 sure enough, when nulling out all
the electrical buzzes I heard some music possibly in Hebrew, music
sounded as if it had something to do with that. After that at 0235z,
some guy talking for like 20 minutes or more. Sounds indeed like
Hebrew to me.

Anyone have any info?


73




Geoffrey S. Mendelson October 1st 03 12:46 AM

In article , tommyknocker wrote:

We're talking about people who don't drive or cook or even tear toilet
paper off its roll on Shabbat (Saturday) because God rested on Shabbat
and so they can't do anything that resembles effort on Saturday. In
Israel, ultraorthodox Jews regularly stone cars whose drivers have the
misfortune to find themselves driving in the neighborhoods on Saturday.
The men spend all their time studying Talmud and make the women work to
pay their bills. Even Jews have weird religious beliefs. :)


The Lubuvitchers are not that bad. They are ultraorthodox, but not to
the point of stoning people. Their late leader, Rabbi Menachem
Mendel Schneerson, was trained in engineering at the Sourbonne (sp?)
in Paris. He did not eschew modern technology, and most Lubuvitchers
have computers, and many have VCR's and TV sets. Just about every
Lubvitcher man I know works for a living. They also study, but they work
a full time job too.

They are the only sect of Jews that prosteltize, but only to other Jews.
If you have ever walked down the street and had some men approach you
and ask you if you were Jewish, that's them. There are various commandments
that Jews are supposed to follow and many don't, they offer you the chance
to fullfill them.

They also spend lots of time and money providing kosher food where there is
none, such as at prisons, and for the ritual feast at passover called a Seder.
In fact there was a huge Seder in Katmandu this year thrown by them for
all the Israeli tourists.

Another example is in Venice where there are no kosher restaurants so they
opened one. Since there is no place to eat on the Sabbath, and they can't
handle money, they have a free buffet.

So these guys are not as bad as you think, and there are many in Israel,
but "tommy" is right, there are some extreme ones in every religion.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 972-54-608-069
Icq/AIM Uin: 2661079 MSN IM:
(Not for email)
Carp are bottom feeders, koi are too, and not surprisingly are ferrets.


Tony Meloche October 1st 03 03:22 AM



"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

In article , tommyknocker wrote:

We're talking about people who don't drive or cook or even tear toilet
paper off its roll on Shabbat (Saturday) because God rested on Shabbat
and so they can't do anything that resembles effort on Saturday. In
Israel, ultraorthodox Jews regularly stone cars whose drivers have the
misfortune to find themselves driving in the neighborhoods on Saturday.
The men spend all their time studying Talmud and make the women work to
pay their bills. Even Jews have weird religious beliefs. :)


The Lubuvitchers are not that bad. They are ultraorthodox, but not to
the point of stoning people. Their late leader, Rabbi Menachem
Mendel Schneerson, was trained in engineering at the Sourbonne (sp?)
in Paris. He did not eschew modern technology, and most Lubuvitchers
have computers, and many have VCR's and TV sets. Just about every
Lubvitcher man I know works for a living. They also study, but they work
a full time job too.

They are the only sect of Jews that prosteltize, but only to other Jews.
If you have ever walked down the street and had some men approach you
and ask you if you were Jewish, that's them. There are various commandments
that Jews are supposed to follow and many don't, they offer you the chance
to fullfill them.

They also spend lots of time and money providing kosher food where there is
none, such as at prisons, and for the ritual feast at passover called a Seder.
In fact there was a huge Seder in Katmandu this year thrown by them for
all the Israeli tourists.

Another example is in Venice where there are no kosher restaurants so they
opened one. Since there is no place to eat on the Sabbath, and they can't
handle money, they have a free buffet.

So these guys are not as bad as you think, and there are many in Israel,
but "tommy" is right, there are some extreme ones in every religion.

Geoff.




Excellent reading Geoff - and very well-written.

Tony


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I. P. Yurin October 1st 03 09:53 AM

Hi list

I became aware of a Jewish station transmitting somewhere from
Brooklyn NY recently. Tonight around 0230z, I used my DX-398 and my
RadioShack loop and tuned to 1710 sure enough, when nulling out all
the electrical buzzes I heard some music possibly in Hebrew, music
sounded as if it had something to do with that. After that at 0235z,
some guy talking for like 20 minutes or more. Sounds indeed like
Hebrew to me.

Anyone have any info?


73


Here in NYC, probably 5 miles tops from these guys, I can pull them,
using a Terk AM loop and a Sangean 505 or a sony 7600. I would bet
even lesser radios would work, with a good passive loop.

I have mostly caught them on Sat. NIGHT (that is, after shabbat). On
those occasions, they play some music, but the feed is mostly speech.
About 50/50 English and Hebrew. I also think the Hebrew includes some
Yiddish. I also think they are replaying content from elsewhere.

I've caught them for at least 2 years now. They seem to exist in that
weird area of off-times and off-freq's.

I think I have a tape somewhere, if you wanna check your reception
against it.


--
Col. I.P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)

I. P. Yurin October 1st 03 10:04 AM

In article , tommyknocker wrote:

We're talking about people who don't drive or cook or even tear toilet
paper off its roll on Shabbat (Saturday) because God rested on Shabbat
and so they can't do anything that resembles effort on Saturday. In
Israel, ultraorthodox Jews regularly stone cars whose drivers have the
misfortune to find themselves driving in the neighborhoods on Saturday.
The men spend all their time studying Talmud and make the women work to
pay their bills. Even Jews have weird religious beliefs. :)


The Lubuvitchers are not that bad. They are ultraorthodox, but not to
the point of stoning people. Their late leader, Rabbi Menachem
Mendel Schneerson, was trained in engineering at the Sourbonne (sp?)
in Paris. He did not eschew modern technology, and most Lubuvitchers
have computers, and many have VCR's and TV sets. Just about every
Lubvitcher man I know works for a living. They also study, but they work
a full time job too.


Indeed. The Lubavichers are a consciously very technically savvy
group. They have cable TV shows here in NYC. And they have run ads in
subway cars. They are NOT Amish jews, by any means.

Someone else here mentioned the station is off the air on Sat. That's
no doubt true. But you wanna be looking for it after sundown anyway.
And for the Lubuvichers, that's no longer Saturday. And early Sunday
and early Monday is when I've heard them best.

As I said, if anyone wants an mp3, I have old ones but I'll try to get
a current one.

I cannot, though, assure you the Rebbes will QSL!


They are the only sect of Jews that prosteltize, but only to other Jews.
If you have ever walked down the street and had some men approach you
and ask you if you were Jewish, that's them. There are various commandments
that Jews are supposed to follow and many don't, they offer you the chance
to fullfill them.

They also spend lots of time and money providing kosher food where there is
none, such as at prisons, and for the ritual feast at passover called a Seder.
In fact there was a huge Seder in Katmandu this year thrown by them for
all the Israeli tourists.

Another example is in Venice where there are no kosher restaurants so they
opened one. Since there is no place to eat on the Sabbath, and they can't
handle money, they have a free buffet.

So these guys are not as bad as you think, and there are many in Israel,
but "tommy" is right, there are some extreme ones in every religion.

Geoff.


I agree. I sorta like them. The same way I like most religious people
who actually live out their beliefs, rather than just show up at some
church on Easter and Christmas.




--
Col. I.P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)


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