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Michael October 19th 03 05:35 PM

Reliable & audible clear channel AM DX reception.
 
Hiya....

After a few good threads on MW DX'ing, there has been some great info on
some of the AM broadcast "catches" that others have managed to get. There
was also a few posts regarding what AM radios are good for hearing far away
AM radio stations. As was pointed out in a previous post to a poster that
has asked the question of "what AM radio to buy", most of the AM DX'ing that
is being reported on is unreliable and usually too messy to listen to.

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???

Mine from North NJ are (after sundown):

840 kHz WHAS Louisville, KY

1100 kHz WTAM Cleveland, OH

1110 kHz WBT Charlotte, NC

I can hear many other of the 50KW AM stations from time time time, but those
three above are almost always relable and listenable here in NJ.
Especially, WBT.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Home Page: http://md_dxing.tripod.com/
Northern NJ
R75 w/DSP, Kiwa agc/sync & audio mods
G5RV & 200ft longwire w/ICE-180
MFJ-1048 preselector
SoundBlstr Live PC card w/five piece Cambridge
speakers & full software mixer/eq.



Tony Meloche October 19th 03 06:21 PM



Michael wrote:

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???

Mine from North NJ are (after sundown):

840 kHz WHAS Louisville, KY

1100 kHz WTAM Cleveland, OH

1110 kHz WBT Charlotte, NC




OK, using your criteria, here is my list. I'm in the SW corner of
Michigan.
Eliminating the Chicago stations, which I get boomingly (but they're
only 80 miles away across the lake), and the Detroit stations (c. 140
miles), and leaving out the stations I can get consistently - but with
only poor, choppy audio, leaves me with this list. It's interesting to
note that while I can get everyone of the New York City 50k stations,
all of them save the one on the list are very weak. These results are
all after dark:

WSM Nashville 650
CNIF Montreal, 690 (all French)
WLW Cincinnati 700
WSB Atlanta 750 (always very strong)
CIGM Sudbury, Ont. 790
WHAS Lousisville 840
CHML Hamilton, Ont. 900
WWL New Orleans 870 (always VERY strong - must use directional antenna)
WGY 810 Schenectady 810
WCCO 830 Minneapolis
WCBS 880 New York
KDKA Pittsburgh 1020
WHO Des Moines 1040
KYW Philadelphia 1060
WTIC Hartford 1080
KMOX St. Louis 1120
WHAM Rochester, NY 880
WBT Charlotte 1110
WLAC Nashville 1510
WSAI Cinncinatti 1530
KYEL Waterloo, IA. 1540

Some of these would not be terribly pleasant lisening, (staticy) but
all are consistenly steady, clear signals at night, ID is easy. As I
said above, I left out about a dozen I can get well sometimes, barely at
all others.

Tony


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Frank Dresser October 19th 03 06:29 PM


"Tony Meloche" wrote in message
...


OK, using your criteria, here is my list. I'm in the SW corner of
Michigan.
Eliminating the Chicago stations, which I get boomingly (but they're
only 80 miles away across the lake), and the Detroit stations (c. 140
miles), and leaving out the stations I can get consistently - but with
only poor, choppy audio, leaves me with this list. It's interesting to
note that while I can get everyone of the New York City 50k stations,
all of them save the one on the list are very weak. These results are
all after dark:

WSM Nashville 650
CNIF Montreal, 690 (all French)
WLW Cincinnati 700
WSB Atlanta 750 (always very strong)
CIGM Sudbury, Ont. 790
WHAS Lousisville 840
CHML Hamilton, Ont. 900
WWL New Orleans 870 (always VERY strong - must use directional antenna)
WGY 810 Schenectady 810
WCCO 830 Minneapolis
WCBS 880 New York
KDKA Pittsburgh 1020
WHO Des Moines 1040
KYW Philadelphia 1060
WTIC Hartford 1080
KMOX St. Louis 1120
WHAM Rochester, NY 880
WBT Charlotte 1110
WLAC Nashville 1510
WSAI Cinncinatti 1530
KYEL Waterloo, IA. 1540

Some of these would not be terribly pleasant lisening, (staticy) but
all are consistenly steady, clear signals at night, ID is easy. As I
said above, I left out about a dozen I can get well sometimes, barely at
all others.

Tony


Hi Tony,

I can get more or less the same group, except for those which are adjacent
to the Chicago clear channels. I can also get WBZ quite clearly and
reliably. Do you have local interference on 1030?

Frank Dresser



Tony Meloche October 19th 03 07:14 PM



Frank Dresser wrote:

"Tony Meloche" wrote in message
...


OK, using your criteria, here is my list. I'm in the SW corner of
Michigan.
Eliminating the Chicago stations, which I get boomingly (but they're
only 80 miles away across the lake), and the Detroit stations (c. 140
miles), and leaving out the stations I can get consistently - but with
only poor, choppy audio, leaves me with this list. It's interesting to
note that while I can get everyone of the New York City 50k stations,
all of them save the one on the list are very weak. These results are
all after dark:

WSM Nashville 650
CNIF Montreal, 690 (all French)
WLW Cincinnati 700
WSB Atlanta 750 (always very strong)
CIGM Sudbury, Ont. 790
WHAS Lousisville 840
CHML Hamilton, Ont. 900
WWL New Orleans 870 (always VERY strong - must use directional antenna)
WGY 810 Schenectady 810
WCCO 830 Minneapolis
WCBS 880 New York
KDKA Pittsburgh 1020
WHO Des Moines 1040
KYW Philadelphia 1060
WTIC Hartford 1080
KMOX St. Louis 1120
WHAM Rochester, NY 880
WBT Charlotte 1110
WLAC Nashville 1510
WSAI Cinncinatti 1530
KYEL Waterloo, IA. 1540

Some of these would not be terribly pleasant lisening, (staticy) but
all are consistenly steady, clear signals at night, ID is easy. As I
said above, I left out about a dozen I can get well sometimes, barely at
all others.

Tony


Hi Tony,

I can get more or less the same group, except for those which are adjacent
to the Chicago clear channels. I can also get WBZ quite clearly and
reliably. Do you have local interference on 1030?

Frank Dresser



Hi Frank:


Nope, the closest thing would be WCFL in Chicago, and that's far
enough away with good selectivity on my radios to be no problem. I can
*get* WBZ almost any night - but it's the exception that I get it clear
and steady. This bugs me, because as a kid in Detroit (140 miles closer
to WBZ) I could get it after dark as strong as a local station, and they
always "broke" Beatles records before
any of the Detroit stations :D My friends thought I was clarivoyant
when I'd tell them what the next Beatles hit was going to be, and that's
how it turned out. I recall the DJ being some guy who called himself
"Juicy Brucie Bradley", and some campaign to have sandwiches renamed
"shrewsburys". Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

PS: IIRC, from the few times I've heard and ID'd it here, they have
different
programming today - but that's no suprise.

Tony


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Frank Dresser October 19th 03 07:38 PM


"Tony Meloche" wrote in message
...


Hi Frank:


Nope, the closest thing would be WCFL in Chicago, and that's far
enough away with good selectivity on my radios to be no problem. I can
*get* WBZ almost any night - but it's the exception that I get it clear
and steady. This bugs me, because as a kid in Detroit (140 miles closer
to WBZ) I could get it after dark as strong as a local station, and they
always "broke" Beatles records before
any of the Detroit stations :D My friends thought I was clarivoyant
when I'd tell them what the next Beatles hit was going to be, and that's
how it turned out. I recall the DJ being some guy who called himself
"Juicy Brucie Bradley", and some campaign to have sandwiches renamed
"shrewsburys". Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

PS: IIRC, from the few times I've heard and ID'd it here, they have
different
programming today - but that's no suprise.

Tony



WBZ comes in very well almost every night here in the Chicago area. Even on
my old Walkman. They're a talker now, and one of the few that has a local
show at night.

Frank Dresser



Doug Smith W9WI October 19th 03 07:52 PM

Michael wrote:
This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???


NYC: 660 WFAN, 880 WCBS
Chicago: 670 WSCR, 720 WGN, 780 WBBM, 890 WLS, 1000 WMVP
Atlanta: 750 WSB
Detroit: 760 WJR
Fort Worth: 820 WBAP
New Orleans: 870 WWL
Pittsburgh: 1020 KDKA
Des Moines: 1040 WHO
Cleveland: 1100 WTAM
Shreveport: 1130 KWKH
Richmond: 1140 WRVA
Rochester: 1180 WHAM
San Antonio: 1200 WOAI

The following I can also get (weakly) during the *day* he
Cincinnati: 700 WLW, 1530 WSAI
Louisville: 840 WHAS (though Louisville is only about 150 miles)
St. Louis: 1120 KMOX
- and of course: -
Nashville: 650 WSM, 1510 WLAC

I can hear many other of the 50KW AM stations from time time time, but those
three above are almost always relable and listenable here in NJ.


Likewise for this list - there are many other stations (WBZ, WPHT, and
KYW come to mind) that are usually audible here but also frequently
disappear under bad conditions.

And others (like 1260 WSDZ and 570 WWNC) that are almost always present
and identifiable, but nobody would dream of listening to a program on
the interference-laden signal.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com


--exray-- October 19th 03 09:31 PM

Michael wrote:
Hiya....

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???


Also take into account that many stations use directional antennas.
Given that scenario you may be able to hear the 5kw guy but not the 50kw
from the same city depending on whether or not the lobe favors your
direction.
Most of the old (what used to be actually clear) clear-channel stations
are omni-directional.
-Bill


WShoots1 October 20th 03 06:25 AM

Most of the old (what used to be actually clear) clear-channel stations
are omni-directional.

A while back, I looked up one in Dallas and it has a humongous array for
daytime and an entirely different almost-as-large array at night. The pattern
must look strange on each, and each are sort of directional.

I think I'll go back and try to find in my files the call sign of that station
and then recheck on it.

Bill, K5BY

starman October 21st 03 12:52 AM

Tony Meloche wrote:

Michael wrote:

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???

Mine from North NJ are (after sundown):

840 kHz WHAS Louisville, KY

1100 kHz WTAM Cleveland, OH

1110 kHz WBT Charlotte, NC


OK, using your criteria, here is my list. I'm in the SW corner of
Michigan.
Eliminating the Chicago stations, which I get boomingly (but they're
only 80 miles away across the lake), and the Detroit stations (c. 140
miles), and leaving out the stations I can get consistently - but with
only poor, choppy audio, leaves me with this list. It's interesting to
note that while I can get everyone of the New York City 50k stations,
all of them save the one on the list are very weak. These results are
all after dark:

WSM Nashville 650
CNIF Montreal, 690 (all French)
WLW Cincinnati 700
WSB Atlanta 750 (always very strong)
CIGM Sudbury, Ont. 790
WHAS Lousisville 840
CHML Hamilton, Ont. 900
WWL New Orleans 870 (always VERY strong - must use directional antenna)
WGY 810 Schenectady 810
WCCO 830 Minneapolis
WCBS 880 New York
KDKA Pittsburgh 1020
WHO Des Moines 1040
KYW Philadelphia 1060
WTIC Hartford 1080
KMOX St. Louis 1120
WHAM Rochester, NY 880
WBT Charlotte 1110
WLAC Nashville 1510
WSAI Cinncinatti 1530
KYEL Waterloo, IA. 1540

Some of these would not be terribly pleasant lisening, (staticy) but
all are consistenly steady, clear signals at night, ID is easy. As I
said above, I left out about a dozen I can get well sometimes, barely at
all others.

Tony


WHAM Rochester, NY is 1180 (not 880)


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Tony Meloche October 21st 03 02:16 AM



starman wrote:

Tony Meloche wrote:

Michael wrote:

This leaves me with yet another AM broadcast question. I'm interested to
find out what 50KW AM broadcast stations http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm#USA
(not in your state, or at least 200 miles away) are in fact reliable and
listenable to you ???

Mine from North NJ are (after sundown):

840 kHz WHAS Louisville, KY

1100 kHz WTAM Cleveland, OH

1110 kHz WBT Charlotte, NC


OK, using your criteria, here is my list. I'm in the SW corner of
Michigan.
Eliminating the Chicago stations, which I get boomingly (but they're
only 80 miles away across the lake), and the Detroit stations (c. 140
miles), and leaving out the stations I can get consistently - but with
only poor, choppy audio, leaves me with this list. It's interesting to
note that while I can get everyone of the New York City 50k stations,
all of them save the one on the list are very weak. These results are
all after dark:

WSM Nashville 650
CNIF Montreal, 690 (all French)
WLW Cincinnati 700
WSB Atlanta 750 (always very strong)
CIGM Sudbury, Ont. 790
WHAS Lousisville 840
CHML Hamilton, Ont. 900
WWL New Orleans 870 (always VERY strong - must use directional antenna)
WGY 810 Schenectady 810
WCCO 830 Minneapolis
WCBS 880 New York
KDKA Pittsburgh 1020
WHO Des Moines 1040
KYW Philadelphia 1060
WTIC Hartford 1080
KMOX St. Louis 1120
WHAM Rochester, NY 880
WBT Charlotte 1110
WLAC Nashville 1510
WSAI Cinncinatti 1530
KYEL Waterloo, IA. 1540

Some of these would not be terribly pleasant lisening, (staticy) but
all are consistenly steady, clear signals at night, ID is easy. As I
said above, I left out about a dozen I can get well sometimes, barely at
all others.

Tony


WHAM Rochester, NY is 1180 (not 880)



Sure is - I wrote WHAM but looked at WCBS - damned astigmatism . . .

Tony


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