Hi, I am going ot setup my own random/longwire.

I have alread about 50 feet of 50 Ohm RG-6 for the lead in.


I have about 50 feet of 2 conductor speaker wire, and about 200 feet of 4
conducter telephone wire.

First am I going to need a 9:1 transformer to make this work? My input is
supposed to be 50 Ohm.


Is a sloper omni directional? If not which end goes to what area I want to
listen to?

Thanks!
Ant

I havea wooden fence that I can attach this wire to. Can I staple it up
with metal staples?

Thanks!

Ant
"ASW" wrote in message
gy.com...
Hi, I am going ot setup my own random/longwire.

I have alread about 50 feet of 50 Ohm RG-6 for the lead in.


I have about 50 feet of 2 conductor speaker wire, and about 200 feet of 4
conducter telephone wire.

First am I going to need a 9:1 transformer to make this work? My input is
supposed to be 50 Ohm.


Is a sloper omni directional? If not which end goes to what area I want
to
listen to?

Thanks!
Ant

ASW wrote:

I havea wooden fence that I can attach this wire to. Can I staple it up
with metal staples?

Thanks!

Ant
"ASW" wrote in message
gy.com...
Hi, I am going ot setup my own random/longwire.

I have alread about 50 feet of 50 Ohm RG-6 for the lead in.


I have about 50 feet of 2 conductor speaker wire, and about 200 feet of 4
conducter telephone wire.

First am I going to need a 9:1 transformer to make this work? My input is
supposed to be 50 Ohm.


Is a sloper omni directional? If not which end goes to what area I want
to
listen to?

Thanks!
Ant




The matching transformer is optional, but I think you'll find it makes a significant improvement in the performance of the antenna.

*sigh*

well that did not seem to work.
I am being blown out by my local AM station.
But I am still pretty dead on all the other AM stations. I cannot pick more
than say 3 or so. Before it was about the same.

But I all I seem to have done is increase the noise!

I have some spurious interference every 60-70 Khz. This is from my power I
am assuming. How do I get rid of it?

I have it hooked up to about 50 foot of speaker wire.

Which is in turn soldered to the center lead on my coax. The coax then goes
into my reciever. Am I missing something?

Thanks!

"ASW" wrote in message
gy.com...
I havea wooden fence that I can attach this wire to. Can I staple it up
with metal staples?

Thanks!

Ant
"ASW" wrote in message
gy.com...
Hi, I am going ot setup my own random/longwire.

I have alread about 50 feet of 50 Ohm RG-6 for the lead in.


I have about 50 feet of 2 conductor speaker wire, and about 200 feet of
4
conducter telephone wire.

First am I going to need a 9:1 transformer to make this work? My input
is
supposed to be 50 Ohm.


Is a sloper omni directional? If not which end goes to what area I want
to
listen to?

Thanks!
Ant

*sigh*

well that did not seem to work.
I am being blown out by my local AM station.
But I am still pretty dead on all the other AM stations. I cannot pick more
than say 3 or so. Before it was about the same.

But I all I seem to have done is increase the noise!


You didn't mention what radio you're using, but sounds like you're overloading
the front end. I think the antenna is working fine, but your radio can't handle
the loud AM stations in your area. Perhaps a antenna tuner or preselector will
help. You can make one quite easily with parts from an old radio found in the
trash, or rummage sale.

What radio are we talking about?

jw
wb9uai
milwaukee

In article om, "ASW"
writes:


*sigh*

well that did not seem to work.
I am being blown out by my local AM station.

Hi Art:

- BTW what kind of receiver do you have ??
I have a Sangean 606A, Icom R-75 and a $ 10 Jwin JX -M14
The M-14 overloads sometimes, the others; - Even using 100 foot random wire
don't overload much at all..

- YOu could try something like a Pre selector ( See below )

http://www.mfjenterprises.com/produc...odid=MFJ-1045C

_-I am within ten miles of several 50,000 watt AM Stations;

No problem.

I have it hooked up to about 50 foot of speaker wire.

Which is in turn soldered to the center lead on my coax. The coax then goes
into my reciever. Am I missing something?

- Try just holding the antenna NEAR your radio, not touching it, moving it
closer & farther away
from the receiver & see if that helps..


Dan

But I am still pretty dead on all the other AM stations. I cannot pick more
than say 3 or so. Before it was about the same.

But I all I seem to have done is increase the noise!

I have some spurious interference every 60-70 Khz. This is from my power I
am assuming. How do I get rid of it?

I have it hooked up to about 50 foot of speaker wire.

Which is in turn soldered to the center lead on my coax. The coax then goes
into my reciever. Am I missing something?

- Try just holding the antenna NEAR your radio, mooving it closer & farther
away
from the receiver & see if that helps..


Thanks!

Which direction are you pointing the slope?
Conditions right now are not good either...solar cycle et al. It'll
calm down in a few months and then reception will improve slowly. Try
7k - 10K area at night.
H


On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:13:25 GMT, "ASW" wrote:

*sigh*

well that did not seem to work.
I am being blown out by my local AM station.
But I am still pretty dead on all the other AM stations. I cannot pick more
than say 3 or so. Before it was about the same.

But I all I seem to have done is increase the noise!

I have some spurious interference every 60-70 Khz. This is from my power I
am assuming. How do I get rid of it?

I have it hooked up to about 50 foot of speaker wire.

Which is in turn soldered to the center lead on my coax. The coax then goes
into my reciever. Am I missing something?

Thanks!

"ASW" wrote in message
igy.com...
I havea wooden fence that I can attach this wire to. Can I staple it up
with metal staples?

Thanks!

Ant
"ASW" wrote in message
gy.com...
Hi, I am going ot setup my own random/longwire.

I have alread about 50 feet of 50 Ohm RG-6 for the lead in.


I have about 50 feet of 2 conductor speaker wire, and about 200 feet of
4
conducter telephone wire.

First am I going to need a 9:1 transformer to make this work? My input
is
supposed to be 50 Ohm.


Is a sloper omni directional? If not which end goes to what area I want
to
listen to?

Thanks!
Ant







Retired Teacher, Terrible Mechanic, Worse Plumber!
LPFM Page: http://home.att.net/~optcamel/fmradio.htm

ASW,

What you are missing is the Matching Transformer between the Antenna
Element and your Coax Cable.

NOTE: Before your buy or build a MW/SW Matching Transformer try using
a simple TV 300 to 75 Ohm Matching Transformer to "Test" your Antenna
Set-Up.

1. The Far-End of the "Speaker Wire" Antenna Element is Stripped,
Twisted Together and Soldered. Then Sealed with Electrical Tape.

2. The Near-End of the "Speaker Wire" Antenna Element is Stripped and
Connected to the Primary #9 Side of the Matching Transformer. Then
Sealed with Electrical Tape.

3. The Secondary #1 Side of the Matching Transformer is Connected to
the Coax Cable. One Lead to the Center Conductor Wire and the other
Lead to the Coax Shield Wires.
- - - At this "Junction" the the Coax Cable's Shield should be
Grounded to a good Earht Grounding Point. (Ground Rod and Short Heavy
Thick Ground Wire.)

4. The Coax Cable runs from the Antenna Element to the
Radio/Receiver. A second Grounding Point should be used at the
Radio/Receiver


FWIW: You have now 'created' a "Closed Loop" (Thin, Flat and
Elongated) Antenna Element (Balanced) that Matched-Up-To a Un-balanced
Coax Cable with a Remote (Quite) Grounding Point. For the most part
this is a Low Noise Antenna design.


OBTW: For more SWL Antenna Ideas . . .
- - - Check-Out the SWL Antennas and AM & FM Antennas eGroup on YAHOO
!

GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM-FM-Antenna/


iane ~ RHF
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*sigh*

well that did not seem to work.
I am being blown out by my local AM station.
But I am still pretty dead on all the other AM stations.
I cannot pick more than say 3 or so.
Before it was about the same.

But I all I seem to have done is increase the noise!

I have some spurious interference every 60-70 Khz.
This is from my power I am assuming.
How do I get rid of it?

I have it hooked up to about 50 foot of speaker wire.

Which is in turn soldered to the center lead on my coax.
The coax then goes into my reciever.
Am I missing something?

Thanks!


..

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:39:54 GMT, "ASW" wrote:

I havea wooden fence that I can attach this wire to. Can I staple it up
with metal staples?

Thanks!
Not the best idea, wrap a wire around the post to an insulator then
from the other end of the insulator is youir antenna...do the same at
the up end of the slope and attach the hot lead of your coax to the
antenna. like this
|------------------------------------------------------------------------||
insulator antenna insulator
Retired Teacher, Terrible Mechanic, Worse Plumber!
LPFM Page: http://home.att.net/~optcamel/fmradio.htm

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:01:35 GMT, "ASW" wrote:

Hi, I am going ot setup my own random/longwire.

I have alread about 50 feet of 50 Ohm RG-6 for the lead in.


I have about 50 feet of 2 conductor speaker wire, and about 200 feet of 4
conducter telephone wire.

First am I going to need a 9:1 transformer to make this work? My input is
supposed to be 50 Ohm.


Is a sloper omni directional? If not which end goes to what area I want to
listen to?

Thanks!
Ant


The slope points in the direction you wish to receive from. Simplify,
simplify...100 feet is fine and a lot easier to support over the life
of the antenna. No transformer is necessary.
H
Retired Teacher, Terrible Mechanic, Worse Plumber!
LPFM Page: http://home.att.net/~optcamel/fmradio.htm