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Mike Terry January 12th 04 04:11 PM

New satellite radio also covers shortwave
 
Sunday, January 11, 2004

Eton Corp, which builds and sells radios in North America under the brand
name of Grundig, is to launch a new multi-purpose satellite radio - the Eton
EM1 XM. As well as AM/FM and XM Satellite Radio, it can also receive
shortwave broadcasts, making it a true world band receiver. The radio has
been developed in collaboration with RL Drake Company. Pricing and
availability have not yet been announced, but a photo and basic details are
available on the company's Web site.

# posted by Andy Sennitt @ 12:49 UTC

http://medianetwork.blogspot.com/



RHF January 12th 04 10:32 PM

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GoTo= http://medianetwork.blogspot.com/

fyi ~ RHF
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= = = "Mike Terry"
= = = wrote in message ...
Sunday, January 11, 2004

Eton Corp, which builds and sells radios in North America under the brand
name of Grundig, is to launch a new multi-purpose satellite radio - the Eton
EM1 XM. As well as AM/FM and XM Satellite Radio, it can also receive
shortwave broadcasts, making it a true world band receiver. The radio has
been developed in collaboration with RL Drake Company. Pricing and
availability have not yet been announced, but a photo and basic details are
available on the company's Web site.

# posted by Andy Sennitt @ 12:49 UTC

http://medianetwork.blogspot.com/


AC Smith January 12th 04 10:39 PM

"Mike Terry" wrote in message ...
Sunday, January 11, 2004

Eton Corp, which builds and sells radios in North America under the brand
name of Grundig, is to launch a new multi-purpose satellite radio - the Eton
EM1 XM. As well as AM/FM and XM Satellite Radio, it can also receive
shortwave broadcasts, making it a true world band receiver. The radio has
been developed in collaboration with RL Drake Company. Pricing and
availability have not yet been announced, but a photo and basic details are
available on the company's Web site.

# posted by Andy Sennitt @ 12:49 UTC

http://medianetwork.blogspot.com/


Is it known whether this will also be able to do DRM? One of the
specs I read on the Grundig/Eton Sat900/EM1 XM had DRM in its stats.

RHF January 13th 04 08:59 AM

ACS,

"Is it known whether this will also be able to do DRM?
One of the specs I read on the Grundig/Eton Sat900/EM1 XM
had DRM in its stats."

One would think that Grundig North America (ETON Corp.) would
have offered the "Grundig Satellit 900" with XM Satellit Radio
in the North American Market.

Then offered the "Eton E1 with Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) in
the Rest of the World.

! Better Marketing IS Better Business !

BUT WHAT ME WORRIED ? ? ?

There is both a "Grundig Satellit 900" eGroup on YAHOO!
Grundig-Satellit-900 · Eton E1 XM Radio {Grundig Satellit 900}
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-Satellit-900/

Plus there is a "Eton E1 XM" eGroup on YAHOO!
ETON-E1-XM-Radio · Eton E1 XM Radio
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/


abc ~ RHF
= = = All Bases Covered :o)
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= = = (AC Smith)
= = = wrote in message . com...
"Mike Terry" wrote in message ...
Sunday, January 11, 2004

Eton Corp, which builds and sells radios in North America under the brand
name of Grundig, is to launch a new multi-purpose satellite radio - the Eton
EM1 XM. As well as AM/FM and XM Satellite Radio, it can also receive
shortwave broadcasts, making it a true world band receiver. The radio has
been developed in collaboration with RL Drake Company. Pricing and
availability have not yet been announced, but a photo and basic details are
available on the company's Web site.

# posted by Andy Sennitt @ 12:49 UTC

http://medianetwork.blogspot.com/

Is it known whether this will also be able to do DRM? One of the
specs I read on the Grundig/Eton Sat900/EM1 XM had DRM in its stats.


donutbandit January 13th 04 10:31 AM

"Mike Terry" wrote in
:

Eton Corp, which builds and sells radios in North America under the
brand name of Grundig, is to launch a new multi-purpose satellite
radio - the Eton EM1 XM. As well as AM/FM and XM Satellite Radio, it
can also receive shortwave broadcasts, making it a true world band
receiver. The radio has been developed in collaboration with RL Drake
Company. Pricing and availability have not yet been announced, but a
photo and basic details are available on the company's Web site.



A "satellite" radio can only receive what the owners of the satellite
choose to make available to it, just like a cable distro.

Any discussion of "what can it receive" is moronic beyond discussion.
Please consult your program guide.

GrtPmpkin32 January 13th 04 05:30 PM

A "satellite" radio can only receive what the owners of the satellite
choose to make available to it, just like a cable distro.

Any discussion of "what can it receive" is moronic beyond discussion.
Please consult your program guide.


According to Eton's site, the radio boasts 'continuous shortwave reception' AND
is digital-ready. Much like a cable-ready TV, you can pick up whatever an
antenna can pick up, but if you want the pay channels, you have to subscribe
separately.
It's NOT a satellite-only radio. I have no idea how well it will perform, but
since it has 3 filter choices, sync., a BFO and PBT, I'd say it MUST receive
more than satellite signals, as you don't need any of those features with
digital, subscription programming.
It would be a little silly, yes, to discuss what the DAB or XM services would
be, since one can look up various DAB packages and see what their programming
offers.
But in general I'd say that "any discussion of 'what it can receive'" is NOT
'moronic beyond discussion'. Hobbyists are curious if nothing else, and enjoy
discussing specs and features, and arguing about them forever.
And please don't steal my donuts.
Linus

AC Smith January 13th 04 08:20 PM

donutbandit wrote in message ...
"Mike Terry" wrote in
:

Eton Corp, which builds and sells radios in North America under the
brand name of Grundig, is to launch a new multi-purpose satellite
radio - the Eton EM1 XM. As well as AM/FM and XM Satellite Radio, it
can also receive shortwave broadcasts, making it a true world band
receiver. The radio has been developed in collaboration with RL Drake
Company. Pricing and availability have not yet been announced, but a
photo and basic details are available on the company's Web site.



A "satellite" radio can only receive what the owners of the satellite
choose to make available to it, just like a cable distro.


This is not what is in question. I just wanted to know if there is
both XM and DRM reception. Given my druthers, I'd rather have DRM in
that rig. JMHO.

acs

RHF January 14th 04 02:01 PM

ACS,

I like you would like to have a standard AM/FM/SW Radio with
a DRM Reception feature. The XM Satellite Radio feature is
something that does not interest me. But then I do not have
Cable TV or Satellit TV; just plain over the airwaves TV with
26 Channels using three antennas.

~ RHF
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"Grundig Satellit 900" eGroup on YAHOO!
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-Satellit-900/
..
"Eton E1 XM" eGroup on YAHOO!
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/
..
..
= = = (AC Smith)
= = = wrote in message . com...
donutbandit wrote in message ...
"Mike Terry" wrote in
:

Eton Corp, which builds and sells radios in North America under the
brand name of Grundig, is to launch a new multi-purpose satellite
radio - the Eton EM1 XM. As well as AM/FM and XM Satellite Radio, it
can also receive shortwave broadcasts, making it a true world band
receiver. The radio has been developed in collaboration with RL Drake
Company. Pricing and availability have not yet been announced, but a
photo and basic details are available on the company's Web site.



A "satellite" radio can only receive what the owners of the satellite
choose to make available to it, just like a cable distro.


This is not what is in question. I just wanted to know if there is
both XM and DRM reception. Given my druthers, I'd rather have DRM in
that rig. JMHO.

acs

..

AC Smith January 15th 04 04:01 PM

(RHF) wrote in message om...
ACS,

I like you would like to have a standard AM/FM/SW Radio with
a DRM Reception feature. The XM Satellite Radio feature is
something that does not interest me. But then I do not have
Cable TV or Satellit TV; just plain over the airwaves TV with
26 Channels using three antennas.

~ RHF


RHF,

I wouldn't mind also having the ability to subscribe to XM built into
the radio but not at the expense of no DRM.

ACS

Gary January 15th 04 11:33 PM

(AC Smith) wrote in message . com...
This is not what is in question. I just wanted to know if there is
both XM and DRM reception. Given my druthers, I'd rather have DRM in
that rig. JMHO.

See Eton's NEW page on the E1 XM at:
http://www.grundigradio.com/asp/EIXM.asp

According to that page, the E1 XM is XM Satellite Radio or Digital
Audio Broadcasting (DAB) Ready. Whether this means they will have two
models, one for each, or whether it really means it is ready for both,
I don't know.

GrtPmpkin32 January 16th 04 02:33 AM

According to that page, the E1 XM is XM Satellite Radio or Digital
Audio Broadcasting (DAB) Ready. Whether this means they will have two
models, one for each, or whether it really means it is ready for both,
I don't know.


If it were only a DAB/XM model, there would be no reason to include the OTHER
features that same page mentions, like PBT, synch. detection, three BW filters,
BFO, etc. Maybe someone can help me with this, but I don't know how ANY of
those features would be needed in a DAB-only radio.
But yes, before having a full-scale, REAL press release of specs and features,
it's hard to say for sure what the radio will be able to do.
Regardless, I think's it's pretty safe to assume it's a general coverage HF
rig that is READY to do digital, provided the user subscribes to a service.
Should be fun!
Linus

RHF January 16th 04 04:25 AM

GA,

What this REMINDS me of is the old RCA Jack on the back of some
1950's Radios that was labeled as "Ready for Television".

All it turn out to be was an external Audio input to take the
TV Audio and run it through the Larger Radio to get that Big
Old Radio Sound.

Just A Sales Gimmick

Don't mistake me YES - I Love Grundig Radios; but AFAIK this is
NOT going to be a "Grundig Satellit 900" but an Eton E1 with a
Questionable "XM" or "DAB" Added-On at what Extra Cost ? ? ?

What Is An ETON ?
Did The Mighty MAX of "G" Know ETON ?
Did MAX go to ETON= http://www.etoncollege.com/Splash.asp ?

ETON Corp. owes the future / potential buyers Full Disclosure
Lets have "Real Facts" - NOT - 'marketing fiction'.


Feelings are Facts !

The Grundig Satellit 900 was for many a 'portable' SWL Radio
Enthusiast the "Holy Grail" of Receivers To Be ! [NOT]

ETON Corp. by playing Brand Name Games with this Radio has
Killed The Dream for Many Proud Grundig Radio Owners.


ssi ~ RHF
= = = So Say I (My Opinions Stated As Facts!)
..
..
= = = (Gary)
= = = wrote in message . com...
(AC Smith) wrote in message . com...
This is not what is in question. I just wanted to know if there is
both XM and DRM reception. Given my druthers, I'd rather have DRM in
that rig. JMHO.

See Eton's NEW page on the E1 XM at:
http://www.grundigradio.com/asp/EIXM.asp

According to that page, the E1 XM is XM Satellite Radio or Digital
Audio Broadcasting (DAB) Ready. Whether this means they will have two
models, one for each, or whether it really means it is ready for both,
I don't know.

..

Gary January 16th 04 04:40 PM

(RHF) wrote in message . com...
GA,

What this REMINDS me of is the old RCA Jack on the back of some
1950's Radios that was labeled as "Ready for Television".

All it turn out to be was an external Audio input to take the
TV Audio and run it through the Larger Radio to get that Big
Old Radio Sound.

Just A Sales Gimmick

Don't mistake me YES - I Love Grundig Radios; but AFAIK this is
NOT going to be a "Grundig Satellit 900" but an Eton E1 with a
Questionable "XM" or "DAB" Added-On at what Extra Cost ? ? ?

What Is An ETON ?
Did The Mighty MAX of "G" Know ETON ?
Did MAX go to ETON=
http://www.etoncollege.com/Splash.asp ?

ETON Corp. owes the future / potential buyers Full Disclosure
Lets have "Real Facts" - NOT - 'marketing fiction'.


Feelings are Facts !

The Grundig Satellit 900 was for many a 'portable' SWL Radio
Enthusiast the "Holy Grail" of Receivers To Be ! [NOT]

ETON Corp. by playing Brand Name Games with this Radio has
Killed The Dream for Many Proud Grundig Radio Owners.

Does it really matter what name goes on the radio? The Eton E1 XM
will be what the Grundig 900 was to be. Why keep calling the radios
Grundig when Grundig isn't involved in designing them anymore? I am
sure this is only the first of many new SW radios to come with the
Eton name on them. As far as satellit ready -- my understanding is
that the radio will NOT come with the small satellite antenna
necessary to pick up the signal, plus you have to subscribe to
satellite radio. So it will be ready - the receiver for satellite
radio is there. If this were not the case, most radios would be
satellite ready.

David January 16th 04 05:00 PM

I think of it as a Chinese Drake.

On 16 Jan 2004 08:40:14 -0800, (Gary) wrote:


Does it really matter what name goes on the radio? The Eton E1 XM
will be what the Grundig 900 was to be. Why keep calling the radios
Grundig when Grundig isn't involved in designing them anymore? I am
sure this is only the first of many new SW radios to come with the
Eton name on them. As far as satellit ready -- my understanding is
that the radio will NOT come with the small satellite antenna
necessary to pick up the signal, plus you have to subscribe to
satellite radio. So it will be ready - the receiver for satellite
radio is there. If this were not the case, most radios would be
satellite ready.



N8KDV January 16th 04 05:26 PM



David wrote:

I think of it as a Chinese Drake.


That sounds almost blasphemous.



On 16 Jan 2004 08:40:14 -0800, (Gary) wrote:


Does it really matter what name goes on the radio? The Eton E1 XM
will be what the Grundig 900 was to be. Why keep calling the radios
Grundig when Grundig isn't involved in designing them anymore? I am
sure this is only the first of many new SW radios to come with the
Eton name on them. As far as satellit ready -- my understanding is
that the radio will NOT come with the small satellite antenna
necessary to pick up the signal, plus you have to subscribe to
satellite radio. So it will be ready - the receiver for satellite
radio is there. If this were not the case, most radios would be
satellite ready.



Stinger January 17th 04 06:18 PM

I still can't believe the geniuses at Eton didn't opt to put two speakers on
a large portable radio that receives subscription digital stereo radio.

Yes, I know you could do the old "computer speakers" upgrade through the
headphone jack, but it still seems foolish to me.

-- Stinger

"Gary" wrote in message
om...
(AC Smith) wrote in message

. com...
This is not what is in question. I just wanted to know if there is
both XM and DRM reception. Given my druthers, I'd rather have DRM in
that rig. JMHO.

See Eton's NEW page on the E1 XM at:
http://www.grundigradio.com/asp/EIXM.asp

According to that page, the E1 XM is XM Satellite Radio or Digital
Audio Broadcasting (DAB) Ready. Whether this means they will have two
models, one for each, or whether it really means it is ready for both,
I don't know.




Gary January 17th 04 11:37 PM

"Stinger" wrote in message ...
I still can't believe the geniuses at Eton didn't opt to put two speakers on
a large portable radio that receives subscription digital stereo radio.

Whether it be the Satellit 800 or the new Eton E1 XM, Eton is trying
to offer a decent item at lower than usual price. Therefore, the
Satellit 800 pretty much used the old Satellit 600/650 case and
ergonomics with the Drake SW8 circuitry. The Eton E1 XM pretty much
uses the case already designed for the Satellit 900. Cutting costs
like that makes a HUGH difference in the price they can sell it for.
To add another speaker means a totally different case, not to mention
other added costs, and a more powerful amplifier. That would put the
radio in another price class.

Yes, there ARE geniuses at Eton Corporation. They have already proven
that.

RHF January 18th 04 03:21 AM

STINGER,

Why Mono-Phonic Sound? -&- Why Not Dual Bi-Aural Sound?

Grundig AG (Germany) use to make a few of there "RTV" AM/FM/LW/SW
Home Stereo Radios with one built-in speaker and a detachable second
speaker. (True Stereo Sound with Separation.)

The "Grundig Satellit 800" and now the 'eton e1 xm' radio both lend
themselves to having a simple jack on the back for an 'optional'
Detached Satellite Speaker for Stereo Listening and true separation
of the two audio channels.

Most of the 'eton e1 xm' radio owners would simply like using
their radios as they are in "Mono-Phonic" only. With headphones
or a pair of external speakers for FM or XM Stereo Radio Listening.
But, those who wanted the look and sound of a Dual Bi-Aural Sound
System and the LOOK of a Radio witha Matching Speaker (Tivoli Model
2).
Tey then could BUY the 'optional' Detached Satellite Speaker and
Enjoy True Stereo Sound by having both speakers. Plus, Eton Corp.
would have a Follow-On (Optional) Product to sell with their radios.
{An Additional Product and Profit Center for their Top-of-the-Line
radios.

The above approach keeps the size of the radio itself down in the
large 'portable' range and does not have it expand up to the Bigger
"BOOMBOX" Size.

yilgr ~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Stinger"
= = = wrote in message ...

I still can't believe the geniuses at Eton didn't opt to put two
speakers on a large portable radio that receives subscription
digital stereo radio.

Yes, I know you could do the old "computer speakers" upgrade
through the headphone jack, but it still seems foolish to me.

-- Stinger


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