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Jay January 18th 04 06:35 PM

Bringing a radio into Israel
 
Hello all


I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.

Does anybody have any opinions?

Thanks, Jay

Howard January 18th 04 06:59 PM

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:35:12 GMT, Jay wrote:

Hello all


I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.

Does anybody have any opinions?

Thanks, Jay


Jay,
Probably not an issue, however you may wish to check with their
Consulate in the US prior to departure. Here's a link to their office
in San Francisco (first one that came up in Google) that may help.

Have a good trip!
Howard

Volker Tonn January 18th 04 07:58 PM



Howard schrieb:

.....
I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.


About 14 years ago my brother spent a year in a kibbuzz and he took his
Sony ICF-2001D/ 2010 with him. There was no problem.

odo


Geoffrey S. Mendelson January 18th 04 10:52 PM

In article , Jay wrote:

I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.


Israel was never one of them. You should have a lot of fun if you don't
mind listening to non English broadcasts. Yes, you can get the VOA and the
BBC, but there's a lot more in the world, and you can hear it from here.

Make sure it has a good set of batteries so you can show the security people
that it's a radio and not a bomb (this is not a joke). The power system here
is 230 volt 50Hz.

If you have a ham license, bring it. It's valid here for 90 days.

If you are going to be in Jerusalem, look me up.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 972-54-608-069
Icq/AIM Uin: 2661079 MSN IM:
(Not for email)



Soliloquy January 19th 04 12:29 AM

(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in
:

How would a "good set" of batteries help security to know that it's a
radio and not a bomb?

Oh, and as often as I use Google for searches, it seems that one only
gets primarily U.S. based stores. Do you have any links to radio and
electronic stores in Israel?

There is an incredible monotony in the U.S. retail stores, I'd like to
see some direct links to European, Australian, or Israeli stores.
Obviously many stores maintain that they will not sell restricted items
(such as unblocked scanners from Canada or England) to U.S. residents, or
the few that will sell won't promise delivery (i.e. you pay, but if
customs confiscates the item, obviously there is no refund from the
company). I'd just like to see if other models of radios are available.
Unfortunately, with today's global economy, most of the electronics are
probably made in China anyway, bearing different manufacturing labels as
required.

I still have a Ferguson FM stereo radio that was made in England about 30
years ago. Very unusual, some transistors are hand soldered to resistors
(the junction being above the circuit board). The unit has a whopping 12
watts per channel RMS, and the power supply has massive capacitors. If
the unit is unplugged while playing through the speakers, several seconds
elapse before the sound starts to diminish.


Regards.



In article , Jay wrote:


Make sure it has a good set of batteries so you can show the security
people that it's a radio and not a bomb (this is not a joke). The
power system here is 230 volt 50Hz.


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immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny
fist of the all or nothing."

RHF January 19th 04 12:42 AM

JAY,

REMOVE the Batteries and Buy a new set of Batteries when you get there.

Place the Radio in your checked Baggage.

Keep the Radio separate from other questionable solid looking
objects and wires. (Toiletry Shaving Kit ETC)

Follow this process on your return trip.

~ RHF
..
..
= = = Jay
= = = wrote in message . ..
Hello all


I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.

Does anybody have any opinions?

Thanks, Jay


Stinger January 19th 04 01:13 AM


"Soliloquy" wrote in message
4...
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in
:

How would a "good set" of batteries help security to know that it's a
radio and not a bomb?

SNIP


During security inspections, the inspectors will power on any handheld
portable devices from passengers to make sure that they're really functional
(and not a covering for a bomb or a weapon). They're just making sure your
cellphone is a cellphone and your radio is a radio.

-- Stinger



Mark S. Holden January 19th 04 01:22 AM

RHF wrote:

JAY,

REMOVE the Batteries and Buy a new set of Batteries when you get there.


Odds are you'll be able to buy a new radio too, because when it doesn't
work, airport security probably won't allow it on the plane.

Place the Radio in your checked Baggage.

Keep the Radio separate from other questionable solid looking
objects and wires. (Toiletry Shaving Kit ETC)

Follow this process on your return trip.

~ RHF
.



WShoots1 January 19th 04 05:44 AM

I'd include the user's manual with the radio, too, so they don't screw it up.

Bill, K5BY

Burr January 19th 04 06:10 AM

I take my YB400 all over the world all the time and the most that has
ever been said was I had to turn it on. I also "always" have to turn my
laptop on for international and put it in a tray in the US, take off my
shoes. The go crazy over my camera bag, wipe little cloths around in the
bag, xray and ask lots of questions.
The biggest thing was a little yellow survival kit from REI I always
carry with me because I am "outback" so much, they have opened three of
them and you can't re-close them after they are opened I just throw them
in the trash, cuss a lot and walk off. Some times I get very mad.
In most small countries the checker always have their hand out!!!

Burr

Jay wrote:

Hello all


I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.

Does anybody have any opinions?

Thanks, Jay



Geoffrey S. Mendelson January 19th 04 06:37 AM

In article , Soliloquy wrote:
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in


How would a "good set" of batteries help security to know that it's a
radio and not a bomb?


It turns on.


Oh, and as often as I use Google for searches, it seems that one only
gets primarily U.S. based stores. Do you have any links to radio and
electronic stores in Israel?


I wish. AFIK there aren't any. :-(

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
972-54-608-069
Icq/AIM Uin: 2661079 MSN IM:
(Not for email)



Diverd4777 January 19th 04 01:17 PM

I carry my Sangean 606A and SONY AN-LP-1 with me wherever I travel.
I put it in the " Check on" luggage, and have it labeled, in a plastic,
transparant
case, with the manuals.
Airport security is time consuming, but if you don't like it, theres the Queen
Mary or Greyhound Bus.
I bring a book & read whilst they check.
I've been patted down in Heathrow, searched at both the Canadian & Mexican
borders, which I objected to..
But after 9/11 I didn't mind at all ! The right to take off & land is
paramount, well worth all the hassles.. Not afraid of flying, just who else
might try to fly with me.

Find a place in Israel where they can sell you a Jwin or Kaito just in case..

Dan


In article , Jay
writes:


Hello all


I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.

Does anybody have any opinions?

Thanks, Jay






Burr January 19th 04 02:29 PM

Morning Dan,
I take a little Yo-Yo antenna with me and it works great with the
YB400. I have a Sony AN-LP-1 here at my little travel trailer and it
works fine. I also have one mounted to the side of my motor home and I
un-screw (or run down)the antenna when I am driving.


Diverd4777 wrote:
I carry my Sangean 606A and SONY AN-LP-1 with me wherever I travel.
I put it in the " Check on" luggage, and have it labeled, in a plastic,
transparant
case, with the manuals.
Airport security is time consuming, but if you don't like it, theres the Queen
Mary or Greyhound Bus.
I bring a book & read whilst they check.
I've been patted down in Heathrow, searched at both the Canadian & Mexican
borders, which I objected to..
But after 9/11 I didn't mind at all ! The right to take off & land is
paramount, well worth all the hassles.. Not afraid of flying, just who else
might try to fly with me.

Find a place in Israel where they can sell you a Jwin or Kaito just in case..

Dan


In article , Jay
writes:


Hello all


I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.

Does anybody have any opinions?

Thanks, Jay








Tom Welch January 19th 04 11:05 PM

Jay:

I personally think the DX 392 is just
too big to carry overseas. For 2
reasons:

1. Sheer Size
2. Battery Consumption

Batteries overseas are expensive, think
about buying a smaller radio to take
with you.

Tom WElch

Brenda Ann January 19th 04 11:11 PM


"Tom Welch" wrote in message
om...
snippage

Batteries overseas are expensive, think
about buying a smaller radio to take
with you.


I haven't found this to be true any place in Asia. In Thailand, they are
about on a par with the US. In Japan, slightly less. Here in the ROK, they
are significantly cheaper than in the US (about 28 cents each for Energizer
alkaline AA's).

I can't vouch for Europe or Africa..




Daniel Rosenzweig January 20th 04 12:41 AM

Not only 235V/50Hz -- but remember the Medium Wave channel spacing is
9 kHz.
While most digital shortwave radios are switchable - remember about
your digital walkman or portable radio...

I've never had a problem bringing a shortwave... again, keep live
batteries in the radio, so that you can turn the radio on for
security. I usually keep it in my carry-on, so that I know where it
is...

On the other hand, I've found reception in the concrete/metal
reinforced/stone facade houses to be an issue... If you can even get a
'clothesline' wire antenna out the window, it should help... Or, most
apartments have a porch and you can go out there with your portable
radio, as long as the weather is good...

Previous to a couple years ago, you used to be able to receive the VOA
in English, about three or four hours a day on 1260 AM(MW), from
Rhodes... but, due to the various "Middle East Conflicts" - it's all
Arabic... I have been told by someone who was in Israel up until
yesterday, that VOA in English is receivable on 1593 kHz (MW) from
Kuwait and 1530 in Eilat from Sao Tome. It comes in well on shortwave
too. BBC is available 24/7 on 1323 kHz MW... (and shortwave, of
course)...

Interestingly, back in 1991, when I went to the VOA office in
Jerusalem to try to pick up new shortwave schedules, they couldn't
even tell me when they were broadcast...(even on MW). They had to get
someone from another VOA office to fax them the schedule -- which was
usually out of date... I finally got someone who is 'in the know' of
all things shortwave to fax me the latest schedule. Then, in the VOA
office, there were the teletypes clanging away...
Nowadays, they get everything off of the computer network... no more
faxed schedules, no more teletypes... I also had an interesting
discussion with Art Chimes, who was then the VOA correspondent. He
also gave me a 'tour' around the place (about three rooms, with a
small, sound insulated broadcasting 'closet').

Kol Israel English new is on at 7 AM, 1:10 PM and 8 PM on Reshet Alef
At 10 PM , in Jerusalem only on 88.2 FM. This is the local relay of
the International network - Reshet Hey - that is carried on
shortwave.

88.2FM is very difficult to receive, even in Jerusalem, without a
decent radio. There is another Kol Israel radio station on 88 FM which
interferes with it! Alternatively, depending upon where you are - you
MAY be able to pick up the groundwave of the shortwave frequencies....

Whenever I've checked - I have always found the Jerusalem Post's
listing of the Kol Israel English news to be incorrect...

All local Kol Israel frequencies - including Reshet Alef:
http://www.israelradio.org/stations.htm

Kol Israel shortwave schedule (with local network listed)
- which you can use to figure out
what time broadcasts will be, local time.

http://israelradio.org/sw.htm

Reshet Alef changed a MW frequency from 576 to 531 as of Jan 1, due
to the closing of the Hillel transmitter station. This was closed
due to environmental concerns...

Reshet Gimel is no longer on MW (it's still on FM) as a result of
Reshet Alef taking over Reshet Gimel's frequency. Who wants to listen
to
music on monoural MW anyway!

I also know someone who listens to Worldspace satellite from Israel...
although Glenn Hauser's website mentions that, at least in India, they
are going to start charging a subscription fee.

Don't reply to the email address posted - I don't check it... Reply to
the group...

(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in message ...
In article , Jay wrote:

Make sure it has a good set of batteries so you can show the security people
that it's a radio and not a bomb (this is not a joke). The power system here
is 230 volt 50Hz.


Quant January 20th 04 04:34 AM

Soliloquy wrote in message

(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in message ...
In article , Soliloquy wrote:
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in

How would a "good set" of batteries help security to know that it's a
radio and not a bomb?


It turns on.


Oh, and as often as I use Google for searches, it seems that one only
gets primarily U.S. based stores. Do you have any links to radio and
electronic stores in Israel?


I wish. AFIK there aren't any. :-(

Geoff.




http://www.electric-city.co.il/
http://shopping.walla.co.il/
http://www.netaction.co.il/

etc.


But it's all in Hebrew

WShoots1 January 20th 04 05:27 AM

But the DX-390/392 uses four D cells, and uses them fast. (The three AAs are
for memory and clock backup.)

Something like the YB300PE might be good for taking abroad.

Bill, K5BY

Dxluver January 21st 04 12:32 AM

and I am going to Israel in a month.

Ah, you dog!! Have a great time. Business or pleasure may I ask?

Dxluver January 21st 04 12:35 AM

If you are going to be in Jerusalem, look me up.

Geoff.


WOW, you live in Jerusalem? Beautiful, soooo much I have read about Israel
and Jerusalem, I feel I know the place.

Hopefully (one day) unless the rapture happens or I die, I'd love to go
there. It is definitely target #1 for me. :-D

Jer January 21st 04 12:44 AM

Yea, its a target allright!

de jer

"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
If you are going to be in Jerusalem, look me up.

Geoff.


WOW, you live in Jerusalem? Beautiful, soooo much I have read about

Israel
and Jerusalem, I feel I know the place.

Hopefully (one day) unless the rapture happens or I die, I'd love to go
there. It is definitely target #1 for me. :-D




starman January 22nd 04 02:16 AM

Jay wrote:

Hello all

I have a DX 392, and I am going to Israel in a month. I will pack it
into my checked baggage, but I recall an older copy of Passport saying
bringing a shortwave into some Middle eastern countries is frowned
upon.

Does anybody have any opinions?

Thanks, Jay


I don't think you'll have a problem with Israel but countries such as
Saudi Arabia could give you a hard time. That's why the version of the
Sony-2010 sold there was factory modified to not receive certain
frequency ranges that were prohibited for the public to use in Saudi
Arabia.


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victoria patel January 22nd 04 05:45 AM

(Dxluver) wrote in message ...
and I am going to Israel in a month.


Ah, you dog!! Have a great time. Business or pleasure may I ask?


If you really want some fun, smuggle a scanner in. Many today are
portable and hand-held, and look like a cell phone. But don't talk
about it, as they are illegal there as in most Middle Eastern
countries. Depending on your knowledge of Hebrew, you can listen to
Magen David Adom, Israel Police, Taxis, Ben-Gurion Airport traffic,
etc. Ham radio operators won't have a problem, but otherwise people
with a scanner should keep a low profile. In Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem
you can also often hear English, French, etc. traffic between the
consulates and embassies.

Dxluver January 27th 04 12:12 AM

If you really want some fun, smuggle a scanner in.

*******rest of good post snipped*******

Tell me about it! I know there's 'programs' out there to translate what is
being said. I'd love to monitor the spectrum in Israel!!


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