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What if this actually happend......
Just think what if this actually happened
maybe it has to a few of you, or maybe it hasen't some may see this as a troll or a joke. but actually it isin't i was thinking about this today and was wondering what the rest of u on here might say.. so here it goes. Have you ever thought to your self. or known some one who maybe has, heard strange singnals. now i dont mean number stations, or odd BCB stations. i mean like have u ever sat spinning the dials on ur radio and then all of the sudden heard something odd that wasen't from this ear. ur probably thinking ok get to what ur talking about well what i mean is maybe a airplane sent off a message over shortwave radio lets say back in 1940 and maybe just now from 1990 on to 2004 maybe u heard the message over ur radio , and found out it was from a plane or something else in a back farther date over shortwave. now i mean its a weird phenomenom (bad spelling) but can it happen . or maybe it has happened to you,, would like to hear your input thanks The Wizard (channels 19,11,27,35..on the CB) VE3010SWL-Professional shortwave listener NAMA1380-Professional scanner operator Keep your heads up high but your antennas up higher |
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Current_gothic wrote: Just think what if this actually happened maybe it has to a few of you, or maybe it hasen't some may see this as a troll or a joke. but actually it isin't i was thinking about this today and was wondering what the rest of u on here might say.. so here it goes. Have you ever thought to your self. or known some one who maybe has, heard strange singnals. now i dont mean number stations, or odd BCB stations. i mean like have u ever sat spinning the dials on ur radio and then all of the sudden heard something odd that wasen't from this ear. ur probably thinking ok get to what ur talking about well what i mean is maybe a airplane sent off a message over shortwave radio lets say back in 1940 and maybe just now from 1990 on to 2004 maybe u heard the message over ur radio , and found out it was from a plane or something else in a back farther date over shortwave. now i mean its a weird phenomenom (bad spelling) but can it happen . or maybe it has happened to you,, would like to hear your input thanks Did you get your tin-foil hat locally, or did you have to send off for it? The Wizard (channels 19,11,27,35..on the CB) VE3010SWL-Professional shortwave listener NAMA1380-Professional scanner operator I'm laughing my ass off...! Keep your heads up high but your antennas up higher |
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Think what you want i was just asking a question if thast how u treat
every one in this newsgroup when they ask a question just a curious one at that i wasent refering to UFOS or anything in that matter. but i guess if ur gooing to be an ass about something that some one asked just for a change of topic and maybe even see if its happend. maybe some one is interested u ever think about that On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:38:14 -0500, N8KDV wrote: Current_gothic wrote: Just think what if this actually happened maybe it has to a few of you, or maybe it hasen't some may see this as a troll or a joke. but actually it isin't i was thinking about this today and was wondering what the rest of u on here might say.. so here it goes. Have you ever thought to your self. or known some one who maybe has, heard strange singnals. now i dont mean number stations, or odd BCB stations. i mean like have u ever sat spinning the dials on ur radio and then all of the sudden heard something odd that wasen't from this ear. ur probably thinking ok get to what ur talking about well what i mean is maybe a airplane sent off a message over shortwave radio lets say back in 1940 and maybe just now from 1990 on to 2004 maybe u heard the message over ur radio , and found out it was from a plane or something else in a back farther date over shortwave. now i mean its a weird phenomenom (bad spelling) but can it happen . or maybe it has happened to you,, would like to hear your input thanks Did you get your tin-foil hat locally, or did you have to send off for it? The Wizard (channels 19,11,27,35..on the CB) VE3010SWL-Professional shortwave listener NAMA1380-Professional scanner operator I'm laughing my ass off...! Keep your heads up high but your antennas up higher The Wizard (channels 19,11,27,35..on the CB) VE3010SWL-Professional shortwave listener NAMA1380-Professional scanner operator Keep your heads up high but your antennas up higher |
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(Current_gothic) wrote in
: Since I have killfiled so many people from this group, I didn't get to see their response, other than as it is quoted in your reply. Unfortunately, so few people have an imagination these days, as the TV supplies what their creative impulses should have driven them to think of for themselves. People that question are creative enough to write the materials that placate the masses. If we were all rigidly scientific, how truly dull the world would be. Confer the movie "Frequency" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186151/ Feast thou eyes on the brief description at the above site. "Plot Outline: An accidental cross-time radio link connects father and son across 30 years. The son tries to save his father's life, but then must fix the consequences". In brief, A relatively young man, policeman by trade, despondent at the recent breakup with his wife, happens to get his father's HAM radio from the closet. He plugs the radio in, and while using it converses with another man, a man that subsequently turns out to be his father. Problem is, his father had died many years prior. An unusual aurora activity in the NY area offered this man a chance to change his past, but with unexpected results. Awesome movie, and just think, some people laugh their asses off over such creative ideas. Please watch the movie, the difficulty with changing the past is quite intriguing, and a way to get evidence from the past to the present is interestingly done. And at the end, changes in the past result in dramatic changes in the present. Keep thinking those creative ideas. Regards. Think what you want i was just asking a question if thast how u treat every one in this newsgroup when they ask a question just a curious one at that i wasent refering to UFOS or anything in that matter. but i guess if ur gooing to be an ass about something that some one asked just for a change of topic and maybe even see if its happend. maybe some one is interested u ever think about that On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:38:14 -0500, N8KDV wrote: Current_gothic wrote: Just think what if this actually happened well what i mean is maybe a airplane sent off a message over shortwave radio lets say back in 1940 and maybe just now from 1990 on to 2004 maybe u heard the message over ur radio would like to hear your input thanks -- Never say never. Nothing is absolute. |
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Current_gothic wrote: Just think what if this actually happened well what i mean is maybe a airplane sent off a message over shortwave radio lets say back in 1940 and maybe just now from 1990 on to 2004 maybe u heard the message over ur radio would like to hear your input thanks Well, I don't think you're a nutcase, but I do think that what is known of RF waves, and the laws of physics *so far as we understand them yet*, the odds are *heavily* against something like that happening. RF waves of all kinds (some more than others, of course) penetrate the ionosphere and continue out in to space "forever" (in theory). Short wave frequencies largely bounce off the ionosphere when conditions are good, but some of them get through - all the time. Now, it is theoretically possible for a wave to strike a face of an asteroid (for example) in exactly the right way to be bounced back toward earth and "re-received", although I think the chances of that make your chances of winning the lottery look like child's play. Complicating it is the fact that unless I'm mistaken, the "escaped" RF wave becomes progressively weaker all the time - and the "bounce" wouldn't help that. To receive something transmitted during WW II for example, that RF wave would have traveled outward for 30 years before being bounced back. That's what I mean by it is *theoretically* possible, but the chances of it are astronomically small (no pun intended). That said, here's a possible other side of the coin: I DO remember reading, about five years ago, a journal article about "unexplained phenomena". I apologize for the sketchiness of the details, but it has been years, as I said. Supposedly it was cross-verified by several sources: A TV station in England received about 22 minutes of very snowy transmission of an old, American broadcast out of nowhere. It was traced to a local TV show from the 1950's in some American city. The show had not been filmed or vieotaped (this was before videotape) and it had not been kinescoped, either. Old program logs traced it to the actual day it had aired. It lasted about 22 minutes and quickly faded This was in 1976 or thereabouts - more than two decades after the broadcast. It has never been explained. I wish I could remember where I read that, but it was NOT a "National Enquirer" or "Weekly World News" story - it was an article about such things (and there are plenty of them). It doesn't mean "aliens", it doesn't mean "spooks", it just means we don't understand some things yet. Tony ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Tony Meloche" wrote in message ... [snip] That said, here's a possible other side of the coin: I DO remember reading, about five years ago, a journal article about "unexplained phenomena". I apologize for the sketchiness of the details, but it has been years, as I said. Supposedly it was cross-verified by several sources: A TV station in England received about 22 minutes of very snowy transmission of an old, American broadcast out of nowhere. It was traced to a local TV show from the 1950's in some American city. The show had not been filmed or vieotaped (this was before videotape) and it had not been kinescoped, either. Old program logs traced it to the actual day it had aired. It lasted about 22 minutes and quickly faded This was in 1976 or thereabouts - more than two decades after the broadcast. It has never been explained. I wish I could remember where I read that, but it was NOT a "National Enquirer" or "Weekly World News" story - it was an article about such things (and there are plenty of them). It doesn't mean "aliens", it doesn't mean "spooks", it just means we don't understand some things yet. Tony I also have a dim memory of the same or a similar story. It's worth mentioning that there were two standards for English TV back then, one for monochrome and one for color. If I recall, the mono standard was on VHF and the color standard was on UHF. Both standards had different sweep frequencies, and both differed from the US standard. The mono standard had the opposite video modulation and the sound was AM. So I don't know how well either type of TV set would sync to a US TV signal and a mono set would show a negative picture and distorted or no sound. However, I think a determined hoaxter could pull it off. Frank Dresser |
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Supposedly it was cross-verified by several sources: A TV station in
England received about 22 minutes ... This was in 1976 or thereabouts - more than two decades after the broadcast. It has never been explained. I wish I could remember where I read that... I recall reading about that as a kid. I believe that it was in a book called "Strange Stories and Amazing Facts," published by Reader's Digest (I think) in the mid 70s. Pretty interesting reading, as I recall. |
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Same thing happened with my kill-file.
It's a shame that a radio hobbyist would rather insult the guy and his question than think about and contribute possible solutions and scenarios -- but he's much too busy being a jerk and self-appointed lord over the newsgroup. Ignore the troll. As for the question, yes -- I think it could happen, and here's why: As shortwave listeners, we depend upon an eclectic combination of magnetism and radiation for their ability to reflect radio waves. Otherwise, we'd be stuck with local, line-of-sight radio sources. We know that these conditions are found in other places besides earth. They're found in massive amounts in nebulae, especially ones with neutron stars (among others) in close proximity. Since radio waves travel at the speed of light, signals from the early days of broadcasting have travelled pretty far (60 light-years for the 1940 signals). There are plenty of places with lots of ionized radiation within 60 light years of earth. However, we only need to consider 30 light-years for this example, because the return trip takes the same amount of time. If one of these radio reflecting objects (nebulae?) were to have the right properties (size, shape, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY -- correct bounce angle -- remember, the Earth is a moving target), we might actually be lucky enough to be in the path of a reflected transmission. Obviously, the chances for this are extremely small, or we would be hearing about really old "skip" much more often. -- Stinger "Soliloquy" wrote in message 4... (Current_gothic) wrote in : Since I have killfiled so many people from this group, I didn't get to see their response, other than as it is quoted in your reply. Unfortunately, so few people have an imagination these days, as the TV supplies what their creative impulses should have driven them to think of for themselves. People that question are creative enough to write the materials that placate the masses. If we were all rigidly scientific, how truly dull the world would be. Confer the movie "Frequency" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186151/ Feast thou eyes on the brief description at the above site. "Plot Outline: An accidental cross-time radio link connects father and son across 30 years. The son tries to save his father's life, but then must fix the consequences". In brief, A relatively young man, policeman by trade, despondent at the recent breakup with his wife, happens to get his father's HAM radio from the closet. He plugs the radio in, and while using it converses with another man, a man that subsequently turns out to be his father. Problem is, his father had died many years prior. An unusual aurora activity in the NY area offered this man a chance to change his past, but with unexpected results. Awesome movie, and just think, some people laugh their asses off over such creative ideas. Please watch the movie, the difficulty with changing the past is quite intriguing, and a way to get evidence from the past to the present is interestingly done. And at the end, changes in the past result in dramatic changes in the present. Keep thinking those creative ideas. Regards. Think what you want i was just asking a question if thast how u treat every one in this newsgroup when they ask a question just a curious one at that i wasent refering to UFOS or anything in that matter. but i guess if ur gooing to be an ass about something that some one asked just for a change of topic and maybe even see if its happend. maybe some one is interested u ever think about that On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:38:14 -0500, N8KDV wrote: Current_gothic wrote: Just think what if this actually happened well what i mean is maybe a airplane sent off a message over shortwave radio lets say back in 1940 and maybe just now from 1990 on to 2004 maybe u heard the message over ur radio would like to hear your input thanks -- Never say never. Nothing is absolute. |
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There was a Twilight Zone episode about someone tuning in broadcasts from
the past on a MW radio. It wasn't a shoddy plot, nor a bad movie. From: (Diverd4777) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: 19 Jan 2004 02:24:26 GMT Subject: What if this actually happend...... Wait! Don't tell me! Let me guess... - Your a Writer for " The Matrix Reloaded" - No ?? Shoddy plot for a bad science fiction movie.. Possible fodder for "Mystery Science Theater 2000" a Guy, two robots & a Really Crummy film.. -Keep writing... Dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In article , (Current_gothic) writes: Just think what if this actually happened maybe it has to a few of you, or maybe it hasen't some may see this as a troll or a joke. but actually it isin't i was thinking about this today and was wondering what the rest of u on here might say.. so here it goes. Have you ever thought to your self. or known some one who maybe has, heard strange singnals. now i dont mean number stations, or odd BCB stations. i mean like have u ever sat spinning the dials on ur radio and then all of the sudden heard something odd that wasen't from this ear. ur probably thinking ok get to what ur talking about well what i mean is maybe a airplane sent off a message over shortwave radio lets say back in 1940 and maybe just now from 1990 on to 2004 maybe u heard the message over ur radio , and found out it was from a plane or something else in a back farther date over shortwave. now i mean its a weird phenomenom (bad spelling) but can it happen . or maybe it has happened to you,, would like to hear your input thanks The Wizard (channels 19,11,27,35..on the CB) VE3010SWL-Professional shortwave listener NAMA1380-Professional scanner operator Keep your heads up high but your antennas up higher |
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