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T.Early January 25th 04 08:16 AM

[ OT ] Maureen Dowd: Bush takes the swaggering sheriff routine too far
 

"Chandler7600" wrote in message
...

http://www.iht.com/articles/126098.html

Maureen Dowd NYT Thursday, January 22, 2004


What must it be like to go through life being that obsessively bitter?

In any event, it's nice to hear from the one person remaining who
still reads Dowd.




Michael Bryant January 25th 04 12:23 PM

From: "T.Early"

What must it be like to go through life being that obsessively bitter?

In any event, it's nice to hear from the one person remaining who
still reads Dowd.


I guess you'd recommend Cal "Mr. Happiness" Thomas' column, instead? Dowd is
much better than the host of right-wing "Rushies" columns. Who says the press
is biased to the left? Seems like this is the pinnacle of right-wing columnists
and their insipid moralizations.



Brenda Ann January 25th 04 12:47 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...


Seems like this is the pinnacle of right-wing columnists
and their insipid moralizations.



Insipid?? Meaning you have no taste for moralization? Personally, I think
a(n almost total) lack of morals/morality is a major problem in the world
today. Where do you think we get the Enron's, the Martha Stewarts, ad inf.??




TL Fort January 25th 04 02:14 PM

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:47:39 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


Insipid?? Meaning you have no taste for moralization? Personally, I think
a(n almost total) lack of morals/morality is a major problem in the world
today. Where do you think we get the Enron's, the Martha Stewarts, ad inf.??


Man that is the pot calling the kettle black! You want to improve
morals you should start with yourself and your website.


http://www.brenda-annd.com/




Tracy




Diverd4777 January 25th 04 02:53 PM

True, Morality , or lack thereof, is a major problem in the world today..
From The Liar / Robber barons of Enron, Worldcomm,
( see NY Times Magazine of 1/25/2004 )
to people using religion as a justification to destroy other people;

Still, somehow, there are enough good, honest, hardworking, careing people
around the world
to help one another get through this current mess...

( Off Soap Box & Back to Shortwave )

Dan



In article , TL Fort
writes:


On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:47:39 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


Insipid?? Meaning you have no taste for moralization? Personally, I think
a(n almost total) lack of morals/morality is a major problem in the world
today. Where do you think we get the Enron's, the Martha Stewarts, ad inf.??





Jeff January 25th 04 03:17 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...

I guess you'd recommend Cal "Mr. Happiness" Thomas' column, instead? Dowd

is
much better than the host of right-wing "Rushies" columns. Who says the

press
is biased to the left? Seems like this is the pinnacle of right-wing

columnists
and their insipid moralizations.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------

Yes I would reccomend Thomas any day. He makes much more sense
than most of the screeming meemies on the left. "who says the press is
biased
left"????? are you kidding??? too much wacky weed me thinks. Insipid
morali-
zations??? ,,, sure is better than little or no morals. ---- PLONK



T.Early January 25th 04 04:12 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "T.Early"


What must it be like to go through life being that obsessively

bitter?

In any event, it's nice to hear from the one person remaining who
still reads Dowd.


I guess you'd recommend Cal "Mr. Happiness" Thomas' column, instead?

Dowd is
much better than the host of right-wing "Rushies" columns. Who says

the press
is biased to the left? Seems like this is the pinnacle of right-wing

columnists
and their insipid moralizations.


What on earth leads to believe I have any love for Cal Thomas based on
something I said about Maureen Dowd? I assume that means I was wrong
and that there are actually -two- people who still read Dowd--my
apologies.

Nevertheless, I did provide you with a jumping off point for a little
rant about "insipid moralizations" (whatever those are), so I guess
that's something.



Michael Bryant January 25th 04 04:41 PM

From: "Brenda Ann"

Insipid?? Meaning you have no taste for moralization? Personally, I think
a(n almost total) lack of morals/morality is a major problem in the world
today. Where do you think we get the Enron's, the Martha Stewarts, ad inf.??


Relax, Brendaa. I'm not opposed to ALL moralizations. I trust you notice I make
a few myself. ;-)

I AM opposed to the insipid specific ones emanating from many right-wing
columnists.

If this doean't satisfy your concern that I am rejecting ALL morals, let me
know and I'll attempt to provide a specific list.

Mike
Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Michael Bryant January 25th 04 04:44 PM

From: "Jeff"


Yes I would reccomend Thomas any day. He makes much more sense
than most of the screeming meemies on the left. "who says the press is
biased
left"????? are you kidding??? too much wacky weed me thinks.


OK. I invite everyone to carefully read Jeff's sentence. Who do you think is
messed up THIS morning?

;-)



Michael Bryant January 25th 04 04:47 PM

From: "T.Early"

Nevertheless, I did provide you with a jumping off point for a little
rant about "insipid moralizations" (whatever those are), so I guess
that's something.


Example: Ann Coulter saying that anyone opposing Pres. Bush is a traitor.



RHF January 25th 04 11:00 PM

MWB,

"I AM opposed to the insipid specific ones emanating from many
right-wing columnists."

So does this mean... That YOU are 'suportive' of the insipid
specific ones emanating from many left-wing columnists ? ? ?

Common Sence and Good Moral Values that Reflect a Societies
Founding Principles and Cultural Histroy; are neither
Right-Winged or Left-Winged. There are the 'cement' that Holds a
Society Together and 'allows' it to Function for the Benefit of All.

ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated as Facts !
..
..
= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...
From: "Brenda Ann"


Insipid?? Meaning you have no taste for moralization? Personally, I think
a(n almost total) lack of morals/morality is a major problem in the world
today. Where do you think we get the Enron's, the Martha Stewarts, ad inf.??


Relax, Brendaa. I'm not opposed to ALL moralizations. I trust you notice I make
a few myself. ;-)

I AM opposed to the insipid specific ones emanating from many right-wing
columnists.

If this doean't satisfy your concern that I am rejecting ALL morals, let me
know and I'll attempt to provide a specific list.

Mike
Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

..

RHF January 25th 04 11:06 PM

BA,

REJOICE in Your Self-Acceptance and Knowing Who You Are - amen, Amen. AMEN !

TLF - The same Prayer Goes Out To You ~ RHF
..
..
= = = TL Fort
= = = wrote in message . ..

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:47:39 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


Insipid?? Meaning you have no taste for moralization? Personally, I think
a(n almost total) lack of morals/morality is a major problem in the world
today. Where do you think we get the Enron's, the Martha Stewarts, ad inf.??


Man that is the pot calling the kettle black! You want to improve
morals you should start with yourself and your website.


http://www.brenda-annd.com/




Tracy


RHF January 25th 04 11:19 PM

MWB,

Cal Thomas, Paul Harvey and others like them are Part of AMERICANA [.]

They are Enjoy, Respected and Loved by many, Many. MANY! Americans:

* Who Love Their Country !

* Are Proud to Be An American !

* Take Pride in Our Nation's Accomplishments, Our Shared History,
Our Multi-Culture Diversity - For WE Are ALL Americans.

* Believe that GOD Has Blessed America !

We (America / Americans) are Better for Them.


ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated as Facts !
..
..
= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...
From: "T.Early"


What must it be like to go through life being that obsessively bitter?

In any event, it's nice to hear from the one person remaining who
still reads Dowd.


I guess you'd recommend Cal "Mr. Happiness" Thomas' column, instead? Dowd is
much better than the host of right-wing "Rushies" columns. Who says the press
is biased to the left? Seems like this is the pinnacle of right-wing columnists
and their insipid moralizations.


Michael Bryant January 26th 04 01:08 AM

From: (RHF)

Common Sence and Good Moral Values that Reflect a Societies
Founding Principles and Cultural Histroy; are neither
Right-Winged or Left-Winged. There are the 'cement' that Holds a
Society Together and 'allows' it to Function for the Benefit of All.


Give me a break, RHF.

And thanks for proving my point!! 8-)



Michael Bryant January 26th 04 01:18 AM

From: (RHF)

Cal Thomas, Paul Harvey and others like them are Part of AMERICANA [.]


Your Americana, RHF, not mine! Stop imposing your cultural perspective. You
know I'm not going to give in and become a red-white&blue patriot like
yourself. Just because my morals are different than mine doesn't mean that mine
display a lack of morality.

You end looking a lot more close-minded than the unity sermon you preach.



TL Fort January 26th 04 01:54 AM

On 25 Jan 2004 15:06:19 -0800, (RHF)
wrote:

BA,

REJOICE in Your Self-Acceptance and Knowing Who You Are - amen, Amen. AMEN !

TLF - The same Prayer Goes Out To You ~ RHF
.
.
= = = TL Fort
= = = wrote in message . ..

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:47:39 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


Insipid?? Meaning you have no taste for moralization? Personally, I think
a(n almost total) lack of morals/morality is a major problem in the world
today. Where do you think we get the Enron's, the Martha Stewarts, ad inf.??


Man that is the pot calling the kettle black! You want to improve
morals you should start with yourself and your website.


http://www.brenda-annd.com/




Tracy


RHF,

Maybe you could get a date with it if it wasn't married to another it.

Tracy

TL Fort January 26th 04 02:09 AM

On 25 Jan 2004 15:06:19 -0800, (RHF)
wrote:

BA,

REJOICE in Your Self-Acceptance and Knowing Who You Are - amen, Amen. AMEN !

TLF - The same Prayer Goes Out To You ~ RHF
.
.

That's funniny stuff. It's one thing to have your penis whacked off
to become a girl but Brend-it whacked hers off to become a lesbian. It
seems to me it could have saved it the trouble. It would have been
easier to stay a guy and like girls.

Oh I forgot! It married another it! So much for knowing who you are!

At least I want have to look down when I'm standing in front of God to
explain why I whacked my peter off. Save your prayers for somebody
else. I don't need or want your's.

Tracy

Michael Bryant January 26th 04 02:45 AM

From: TL Fort

That's funniny stuff. It's one thing to have your penis whacked off
to become a girl but Brend-it whacked hers off to become a lesbian.


Another idiot that has to resort to mindless juvenile drivel. This moron
couln't make a reasoned argument if it hit him in the head.

You need prayers, you scumsucking pinhead.



Stinger January 26th 04 03:31 AM

Brenda continually makes posts to this newsgroup, and is very knowledgeable
about radios.

In my opinon, Brenda makes excellent contributions to discussions about
radio-related topics.

Meanwhile, I don't think I'll actually "miss" any of yours, should you ever
make one.

PLONK

-- Stinger


"TL Fort" wrote in message
...
On 25 Jan 2004 15:06:19 -0800, (RHF)
wrote:

BA,

REJOICE in Your Self-Acceptance and Knowing Who You Are - amen, Amen.

AMEN !

TLF - The same Prayer Goes Out To You ~ RHF
.
.

That's funniny stuff. It's one thing to have your penis whacked off
to become a girl but Brend-it whacked hers off to become a lesbian. It
seems to me it could have saved it the trouble. It would have been
easier to stay a guy and like girls.

Oh I forgot! It married another it! So much for knowing who you are!

At least I want have to look down when I'm standing in front of God to
explain why I whacked my peter off. Save your prayers for somebody
else. I don't need or want your's.

Tracy




Frank Dresser January 26th 04 08:05 AM

Hey Tracy, are you this group's new morality cop? Are you going to
also start shouting about porn links or taking the Lord's name in vain?

Or are you just exhibiting one of your fetishes/phobias?

Frank Dresser



RHF January 26th 04 08:19 AM

= = = TL Fort
= = = wrote in message . ..

On 25 Jan 2004 15:06:19 -0800, (RHF)
wrote:

BA,

REJOICE in Your Self-Acceptance and Knowing Who You Are - amen, Amen. AMEN !

TLF - The same Prayer Goes Out To You ~ RHF
.
.


- - - S N I P - - -

At least I want have to look down when I'm standing in front of
God to explain why I whacked my peter off. Save your prayers for
somebody else. I don't need or want your's.

Tracy

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

tracy, Tracy. TRACY !

It was my simple understanding that GOD would be Judging Each of Us
by the Content of Our Hearts; and not any physical element of our
former beings. For In Heaven We Will Be Given Heavenly Bodies.

No MAN Stands So Tall... As when He Knells Down To Help a Child.
Alas, Let Us Not Forget - We Are All Children Of GOD !

I Will Have A "Good Thought" For You TLF :o)

fihf&ib ~ RHF
= = = For I Have Faith and I Believe !

..

..

Mike Terry January 26th 04 08:54 AM


"Chandler7600" wrote in message
...

http://www.iht.com/articles/126098.html

Maureen Dowd NYT Thursday, January 22, 2004
WASHINGTON Whoa! That was quite the steroid-infused performance. Who's

the

Sorry but you have posted to the wrong newsgroup.



Mike Terry January 26th 04 08:55 AM


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:Y5RQb.143998$I06.1389760@attbi_s01...

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...

I guess you'd recommend Cal "Mr. Happiness" Thomas' column, instead?

Dowd
is
much better than the host of right-wing "Rushies" columns. Who says the

press
is biased to the left? Seems like this is the pinnacle of right-wing

columnists
and their insipid moralizations.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------------------------------

Yes I would reccomend Thomas any day. He makes much more sense
than most of the screeming meemies on the left. "who says the press is
biased
left"????? are you kidding??? too much wacky weed me thinks. Insipid
morali-
zations??? ,,, sure is better than little or no morals. ---- PLONK



I, for one, do not want to read this rubbish, this newsgroup is for radio
matters.

Please go somewhere that's relevant.

Thank you



T Fort January 26th 04 11:53 AM

On 25 Jan 2004 01:57:43 GMT, (Chandler7600)
wrote:

I guess all you idiots approve of scum like Brenda...why don't you ask
it for a date...


hahahahaha...


she'e all you need....


Tracy

T Fort January 26th 04 11:56 AM

Not yours dipdhit!



Tracy

On 26 Jan 2004 02:45:24 GMT, ojunk (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: TL Fort


That's funniny stuff. It's one thing to have your penis whacked off
to become a girl but Brend-it whacked hers off to become a lesbian.


Another idiot that has to resort to mindless juvenile drivel. This moron
couln't make a reasoned argument if it hit him in the head.

You need prayers, you scumsucking pinhead.



T Fort January 26th 04 12:01 PM

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:05:20 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:

Hey Tracy, are you this group's new morality cop? Are you going to
also start shouting about porn links or taking the Lord's name in vain?

Or are you just exhibiting one of your fetishes/phobias?

Frank Dresser

Nope thats benover ann's job...

Tracy

Michael Bryant January 26th 04 01:04 PM

From: T Fort

I guess all you idiots approve of scum like Brenda...why don't you ask
it for a date...


Uh, she's a pretty cool person. We know that from years of her contributions to
the group. You, on the other hand, have proven that your a hopeless
Neanderthal that should be ignored. Can you even get dates?


T Fort January 26th 04 06:08 PM

On 26 Jan 2004 13:04:56 GMT, ojunk (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: T Fort


I guess all you idiots approve of scum like Brenda...why don't you ask
it for a date...


Uh, she's a pretty cool person. We know that from years of her contributions to
the group. You, on the other hand, have proven that your a hopeless
Neanderthal that should be ignored. Can you even get dates?



Oh I'm sorry mikey! I forgot Brenda Ann is married to an IT! Guess
you are out of luck!

Tracy

RHF January 26th 04 09:27 PM

MWB,

"Cal Thomas, Paul Harvey and others like them are Part of AMERICANA
[.]"

As Always... MWB, You Read To Much into What Is Said.

Part of Americana -=V=- Not ALL of Americana.

Is there Not "Room" in Your America for a Cal Thomas, Paul Harvey and
others ?

Or, in Your America 'must' Everyone Be Like You ?

MWB - Rest Assured in My America there is a Big Tent for All To Be
Welcomed and a Safe Space Outside for Those Who Do Not Wish To Be On
The Inside.

MWB - Remain MWB, RELAX - Be Yourself. I would Not Change You.
For When You Are Being You - You Help Me To Be Me. Yes there
is a certain Weird Logic in that... But That's a Fact MWB.

MWB - You WROTE This: "Just because my morals are different than
mine doesn't mean that mine display a lack of morality."

BUT, I Think You Meant to Write This: 'Just because YOUR morals are
different than mine doesn't mean that mine display a lack of morality.

SEE "MWB" I Am Trying To Understand You - Honestly I Am . . .

MWB - "Stop imposing your cultural perspective."
I 'impose' Nothing [.]
But, In My America, both "You & I" have Freedom of Speech (to write).
So I simply Speak (Write) Freely - As Is My Right.
Would You Deny Me My Rights MWB ? Would You ?
Is MWB's America ONLY for Those Who Think and Speak Like MWB ?
Is It MWB ?


MWB - IMHO - Morals are 'designed' and evolve in a Society to
Promote Peace and Understanding that Result in Actions by Individuals
and Groups for the continuation of an Just adn Orderly Society.

Better To Be A Moral Man - Who Is Understands His Ways.
* Than A Godly Man Who Has Lost His Way.
* * Who Acts In The Name Of God.
* * * Without Knowing God's Heart.


palta... ~ RHF
= = = Peace and Love To All... and To All A Good Day !
..
..
= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...
From:
(RHF)

Cal Thomas, Paul Harvey and others like them are Part of AMERICANA [.]


Your Americana, RHF, not mine! Stop imposing your cultural perspective. You
know I'm not going to give in and become a red-white&blue patriot like
yourself. Just because my morals are different than mine doesn't mean that mine
display a lack of morality.

You end looking a lot more close-minded than the unity sermon you preach.

..

Michael Bryant January 26th 04 09:49 PM

From: (RHF)

Is there Not "Room" in Your America for a Cal Thomas, Paul Harvey and
others ?


Jesus, RHF, I haven't suggested kicking them out, like many folks on your side
suggest for anyone that disagrees with making GW Bush eligible for sainthood.

Or, in Your America 'must' Everyone Be Like You ?


Bingo. Look in the mirror and ask yourself that question. You seem totally
incapable of self-awareness.

MWB - Rest Assured in My America there is a Big Tent for All To Be
Welcomed and a Safe Space Outside for Those Who Do Not Wish To Be On
The Inside.


It's easy to wrtite words. Even improperly capitalized ones.

MWB - Remain MWB, RELAX - Be Yourself. I would Not Change You.
For When You Are Being You - You Help Me To Be Me. Yes there
is a certain Weird Logic in that... But That's a Fact MWB.


OK. You win the weird logic award.

MWB - "Stop imposing your cultural perspective."
I 'impose' Nothing [.]
But, In My America, both "You & I" have Freedom of Speech (to write).
So I simply Speak (Write) Freely - As Is My Right.
Would You Deny Me My Rights MWB ? Would You ?
Is MWB's America ONLY for Those Who Think and Speak Like MWB ?
Is It MWB ?


I never suggested that your rights be denied, RHF. You were the one waxed
graphically about my rejection of morality. The same thing you indict me for is
exactly what you just did. I was simply expressing the fact that I do not think
Cal Thomas is much of a writer. I did not suggest sending him away. We are ALL
Americana by your new standard.

The fact that reduce everything to such simple and irrefutable, but
non-applicable, maxims suggests that you might need to take a logic class.

MWB - IMHO - Morals are 'designed' and evolve in a Society to
Promote Peace and Understanding that Result in Actions by Individuals
and Groups for the continuation of an Just adn Orderly Society.


Read. I am not rejecting morality. I am rejecting what passes for morality
coming from writers such as Cal Thomas and Ann Coulter. It is INSIPID. Stop
generalizing and making straw-man assumptions to support your own moral
superiority.


Better To Be A Moral Man - Who Is Understands His Ways.
* Than A Godly Man Who Has Lost His Way.
* * Who Acts In The Name Of God.
* * * Without Knowing God's Heart.


Any other meaningless words that you think makes you sound good? And when,
exactly, did God share the secrets of his heart with you? No wonder you seem to
have such a gigantic case superior morality.

BTW, just where is that room here in the US tent for those people that think
you are a classic example of what's wrong with most Republicans?

I'll be there. Waiting for you to stop spouting poetry and creating your
universe of grammatical graphics!

This IS a real world and I don't think all of your Cali years have given you
the ability to see it.

But, I'll keep praying that Satan will lift the cloud that seems to be
obscuring your vision.




= = = Peace and Love To All... and To All A Good Day !
.
.
= = =
ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...
From:
(RHF)

Cal Thomas, Paul Harvey and others like them are Part of AMERICANA [.]


Your Americana, RHF, not mine! Stop imposing your cultural perspective. You
know I'm not going to give in and become a red-white&blue patriot like
yourself. Just because my morals are different than mine doesn't mean that

mine
display a lack of morality.

You end looking a lot more close-minded than the unity sermon you preach.

.









RHF January 27th 04 04:20 AM

= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...

"Jesus, RHF, I haven't suggested kicking them out, like many folks
on your side suggest for anyone that disagrees with making GW Bush
eligible for sainthood."

- - - S N I P - - -

MWB - GWB a Saint . . . N O T !

Since the 1950s:

There is only one former US President that should be considered
for Sainthood - "JFK" for being Killed doing his Job.

There is only one former US President that should be considered for
Beautification - Ronald Reagan for bring an End to the Cold War.

There is only one US President that should be considered for
CANNONization - "GWB" for Letting the Dogs of War Loose on
America's Enemies both Foreign and Domestic.


who, Who. WHO LET THE DOGS OUT ! ~ RHF

..

..

Michael Bryant January 27th 04 08:59 PM

From: (RHF)

There is only one US President that should be considered for
CANNONization - "GWB" for Letting the Dogs of War Loose on
America's Enemies both Foreign and Domestic.


who, Who. WHO LET THE DOGS OUT ! ~ RHF



I don't know who let the dogs out, but they sure seem to have trampled your few
remaining brain cells, RHF...


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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