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Dxluver January 26th 04 10:35 PM

Does George Bush listen to shortwave radio?

I had read (before he was president) that he was 'well aware' of the shortwave
spectrum. Now make of that what you will. ;-)

I'm sure he's spun a dial or two.

Dxluver January 26th 04 10:37 PM

There's a story going around that both Eisenhower and Kennedy had a
Hallicrafters SX-62 installed on their respective planes. I don't know
if they did any SWLing. They may have just used the radio to listen to
local AM or FM stations as they traveled around. Johnson had a stack of
TVs, each tuned to a different channel. I like the idea that a
president might check the media reports, even if it's just to see if the
public is getting the story right or not.


Yeah, I know Frank if I were in their spots I'd dfinitely be setup (receiver
wise) to the hilt. I wonder what is on Air Force One. {?}

I might check and see what I can find on that.

Dxluver January 26th 04 10:49 PM

And what does it say about a President if he neither reads newspapers or
listens to radio?


That he doesn't. {?}

but I've never heard of
Bush II listening.


Like I said earlier, I read (FWIW) that he was well aware of it, it's *kind
of* hard to believe that Bush has 'literally' NEVER listened nor operated a
shortwave radio in his life . But that's just me. :-)

Dxluver January 26th 04 10:52 PM

He's got to be one of the
least intelligent presidents in US history.


Do you have the facys or stats to back this statement up? I'm sure you do, or
you wouldn't have said that, at least I wouldn't think you would.

*I'd like to read them. Can you share please? :-)

FWIW:I didn't vote for him.

Dxluver January 26th 04 10:58 PM

***I forgot to add to the rest of your post, sorry bout' that.

Everyone on his staff is
smarter than him and they know it.


Really? Huh, that's something. They know it also? Really? Do you know
someone 'personally' on his staff that has told you this? Or do you have the
*classified* IQ tests results because I'd love for you to post it here on
usenet for all of us to read so we know that what you're saying is not "just
your opinion".....but a FACT.....because this is what you have told us.

That's why it's easy for them to
manipulate him.


Hmm, really? Truly? They 'manipulate' him. They do it because they're
'smarter'? Can you PLEASE support this statement also with stats or facts and
share them.

I'll be waiting as will all of us, this will be something to read. A usenet
poster with all this 'actual proof.'

Going to get my coffee:-D

Dxluver January 26th 04 11:01 PM

- ANY president woud've " stood tall" when his country was attacked.
- Any..


Even Clinton when they let Osama go? THAT, has been reported by every news
agency in the world, so please Dan, don't ask me for the 'facts' on that one.
Just type in 'Google'.....and you'll find out all about it.

Dxluver January 26th 04 11:13 PM

Picking up SLOW code & some echoey signals..

Dan / NYC ( R-75, Pre selector & A tangle of wire)


Hey Dan,
I'm thinking about (when I can...I have a list) purchasing one of those
'multi-readers'.....I've heard mixed reviews on them. But living where I do
and (more often than not) usually getting a solid copy on things, I'd love to
have one of these to know what's being said.

I know there's programs and all that jive, but I'd really like to add that to
the arsenal one day soon. Have you ever thought about getting one?

Frank Dresser January 26th 04 11:43 PM


"Dxluver" wrote in message
...

Yeah, I know Frank if I were in their spots I'd dfinitely be setup

(receiver
wise) to the hilt. I wonder what is on Air Force One. {?}

I might check and see what I can find on that.


The newer Air Force One is supposed to have alot of emergency
capability, so I expect it has excellent hi performance SW radios.
Since they spend alot of time on runways and such, I'd also expect they
have a good FM system. It would be interesting to know just what they
have, though.

Frank Dresser



RHF January 27th 04 05:35 AM

= = = "Frank Dresser"
= = = wrote in message ...
"Dxluver" wrote in message
...

Yeah, I know Frank if I were in their spots I'd dfinitely be setup

(receiver
wise) to the hilt. I wonder what is on Air Force One. {?}

I might check and see what I can find on that.


The newer Air Force One is supposed to have alot of emergency
capability, so I expect it has excellent hi performance SW radios.
Since they spend alot of time on runways and such, I'd also expect they
have a good FM system. It would be interesting to know just what they
have, though.

Frank Dresser


FD,

There may be a Ten-Tec RX-350D in th POTUS Suite for Show and Tell.

BUT - In this Day of Modern Instant Communications for the White
House and Air Force One. If it ain't on TV; a Satellite-Cable News
Channel; a News Wire; or the Internet. Then It Does Not Exist !

If there is a need for a Radio Audio Feed: Then it is most likely
would be XM or Sirius via Satellite. Any other Signal Intelligence
would be a 'direct' Intercept or a relay via ground control.

wmcis ~ RHF

..

MnMikew January 27th 04 07:06 PM

PARENTS raise children, not the President dummy.




Diverd4777 January 28th 04 12:19 AM

Yeah, I've thought about calling MFJ & gettin g one;
-however finances are a bit tight right now,
, so it'll have to wait until things get a bit better


- In article ,
(Dxluver) writes:


Picking up SLOW code & some echoey signals..

Dan / NYC ( R-75, Pre selector & A tangle of wire)


Hey Dan,
I'm thinking about (when I can...I have a list) purchasing one of those
'multi-readers'.....I've heard mixed reviews on them. But living where I do
and (more often than not) usually getting a solid copy on things, I'd love
to
have one of these to know what's being said.

I know there's programs and all that jive, but I'd really like to add that
to
the arsenal one day soon. Have you ever thought about getting one?





CW January 28th 04 01:47 AM

Maybe someone has gotten one of those MFJ Multireaders to work but no one I
have ever talked to. Let us know if you do any better.
"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
Yeah, I've thought about calling MFJ & gettin g one;
-however finances are a bit tight right now,
, so it'll have to wait until things get a bit better


- In article ,


(Dxluver) writes:


Picking up SLOW code & some echoey signals..

Dan / NYC ( R-75, Pre selector & A tangle of wire)


Hey Dan,
I'm thinking about (when I can...I have a list) purchasing one of those
'multi-readers'.....I've heard mixed reviews on them. But living where I

do
and (more often than not) usually getting a solid copy on things, I'd

love
to
have one of these to know what's being said.

I know there's programs and all that jive, but I'd really like to add

that
to
the arsenal one day soon. Have you ever thought about getting one?







Dxluver January 28th 04 07:00 AM

Maybe someone has gotten one of those MFJ Multireaders to work but no one I
have ever talked to. Let us know if you do any better.


I know what you're saying CW, the fellas (all hams FWIW) said they had
problems getting a solid copy. I wonder why, it's like being a 'little
pregnant'......either you are or aren't.

Either you have a solid copy or you don't. If the multi-reader has problems
with a solid copy then they should redo it or junk it.

N8KDV January 28th 04 11:25 AM



Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


Alan J Giddings January 28th 04 03:35 PM

I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message ...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


DeWayne January 28th 04 03:39 PM


"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan


Did anyone who had wealthy parents?
DeWayne

N8KDV wrote in message

...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B




N8KDV January 28th 04 03:39 PM



Alan J Giddings wrote:

I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?


So? The majority of folks didn't. What's your point?


Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message ...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B



T. Early January 28th 04 04:29 PM


"DeWayne" wrote in message
...

"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of

his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan


Did anyone who had wealthy parents?
DeWayne


Yes. And some didn't come back.



CW January 28th 04 05:16 PM

He is. Bush was in the national guard. How do you avoid military service by
joining the military?

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B




CW January 28th 04 05:21 PM

There was a little Army post in Ethiopia. That's where I was during Vietnam.
In your mind everyone that was stationed there, or anywhere else, during
that time was a draft dodger, right?

"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message

...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B




DeWayne January 28th 04 05:54 PM


"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"DeWayne" wrote in message
...

"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of

his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan


Did anyone who had wealthy parents?
DeWayne


Yes. And some didn't come back.


Can you make a list, that would be interesting reading.
DeWayne






tommyknocker January 29th 04 03:16 AM

CW wrote:

He is. Bush was in the national guard. How do you avoid military service by
joining the military?


It's all a matter of degree. W was keeping the skies of Houston, Texas
safe from commies-when he actually showed up, which wasn't often.
Meanwhile, John Kerry and a few million other Americans who for the most
part didn't have W's family pull were fighting real live (not imaginary)
Viet Cong in Vietnam, which I would say was quite a bit more dangerous
than Houston. Even Al Gore, who spent his tour of duty in Saigon, could
hear enemy fire all night.


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B





CW January 29th 04 05:19 AM

Quit being an idiot and think. If the US government didn't deem that an
important enough position, they would have pulled everyone out of the
national guard and put them in the marines. Pull your head out. I have
combat veteran status but I damned sure would not count my contribution as
any more important than someone in the national guard, reserves or coast
guard. They are all service to their country and none are any more important
than another. It is that way in civilian life too. There are no unimportant
jobs. If it was unimportant, it wouldn't exist.
"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
CW wrote:

He is. Bush was in the national guard. How do you avoid military service

by
joining the military?


It's all a matter of degree. W was keeping the skies of Houston, Texas
safe from commies-when he actually showed up, which wasn't often.
Meanwhile, John Kerry and a few million other Americans who for the most
part didn't have W's family pull were fighting real live (not imaginary)
Viet Cong in Vietnam, which I would say was quite a bit more dangerous
than Houston. Even Al Gore, who spent his tour of duty in Saigon, could
hear enemy fire all night.


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B







skywave January 29th 04 08:08 AM

DeWayne wrote:

"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"DeWayne" wrote in message
...

"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of

his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan

Did anyone who had wealthy parents?
DeWayne


Yes. And some didn't come back.


Can you make a list, that would be interesting reading.
DeWayne


You can start the list with Jimmy Stewart's son.


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Alan J Giddings January 29th 04 11:43 AM

No that is not my point. It is that Bush did not do his duty back
then. He drew on family connections to help him out, like many people
likely did. It's just that most of them don't go about in a bellicose
manner.
Regards,
Alan
"CW" wrote in message ...
There was a little Army post in Ethiopia. That's where I was during Vietnam.
In your mind everyone that was stationed there, or anywhere else, during
that time was a draft dodger, right?

"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message

...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger

Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


N8KDV January 29th 04 12:28 PM



Alan J Giddings wrote:

No that is not my point. It is that Bush did not do his duty back
then.


How do you figure that? What do you base that assumption on? What exactly do you think his 'duty'
was?

He drew on family connections to help him out, like many people
likely did. It's just that most of them don't go about in a bellicose
manner.
Regards,
Alan
"CW" wrote in message ...
There was a little Army post in Ethiopia. That's where I was during Vietnam.
In your mind everyone that was stationed there, or anywhere else, during
that time was a draft dodger, right?

"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message

...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger

Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B



Alan J Giddings January 29th 04 01:17 PM

Hello again,
My point is this: Be careful when listening to a belicose man who when
it was time for him to serve his country in uniform, he dodged his
duty.
Regards,
Alan
N8KDV wrote in message ...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?


So? The majority of folks didn't. What's your point?


Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message ...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger

Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


N8KDV January 29th 04 02:03 PM



Alan J Giddings wrote:

Hello again,
My point is this: Be careful when listening to a belicose man who when
it was time for him to serve his country in uniform, he dodged his
duty.


That's not an answer! You are using the word 'dodge' again!

Tell ya what, you go study up, and when you get it figured out, come on back!

By the way, Bush *did* serve his country in uniform!

Good luck!



CW January 29th 04 04:07 PM

I thought we were talking about the current president. The one that fits
your discription has bee out of office for some years now.
"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
Hello again,
My point is this: Be careful when listening to a belicose man who when
it was time for him to serve his country in uniform, he dodged his
duty.
Regards,
Alan
N8KDV wrote in message

...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?


So? The majority of folks didn't. What's your point?


Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message

...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths

of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the

famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common

airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at

the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking

his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well

many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in

store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines

through.
Bush the draft dodger

Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B




RHF January 29th 04 05:49 PM

AJG,

"I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many
of his generation, did he ?"

So then what do you say about former president Clinton and the
'time' he spent in Vietnam or the way he Actively Avoided any
service to his country.

What Say You AJG ?

Are You Honest and Consistant AJG ?


I Want To Know ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Alan J Giddings)
= = = wrote in message . com...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message ...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger


Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


RHF January 29th 04 05:58 PM

AJG,

"No that is not my point. It is that Bush did not do his duty
back then. He drew on family connections to help him out, like
many people likely did."

So then what do you say about former president Clinton using his
personal 'connections' to help himself out to "Avoid Any" Miitary
Service (and Vietnam) and Clinton's active dislike for the US
Military ?

What Say You AJG ?

Are You Honest and Consistant AJG ?

I Want To Know ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Alan J Giddings)
= = = wrote in message . com...
No that is not my point. It is that Bush did not do his duty back
then. He drew on family connections to help him out, like many people
likely did. It's just that most of them don't go about in a bellicose
manner.
Regards,
Alan
"CW" wrote in message ...
There was a little Army post in Ethiopia. That's where I was during Vietnam.
In your mind everyone that was stationed there, or anywhere else, during
that time was a draft dodger, right?

"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
I often get confused but Bush did not go to Vietnam like many of his
generation, did he?
Regards,Alan
N8KDV wrote in message

...
Alan J Giddings wrote:

I take your point but perhaps what I meant to say is that deaths of
soldiers only matter when it's election time. Do you know the famous
photograph of Dwight D. Eisenhower taken at Greenham Common airbase in
England on the 5th June 1944? I know he was not a president at the
time but the photograph clearly shows how he feels. He's looking his
men in the eye asking them to do their duty but knowing full well many
will be die. I think it shows an understanding of what was in store
for those brave airborne soldiers and his sincerity shines through.
Bush the draft dodger

Where is your *proof* that Bush is a draft *dodger*?

I think you might be a bit confused with your usage of the word.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


CW January 29th 04 06:34 PM

How's that? By joining the national guard? I didn't realize that the
national guard was such an elite organization, only for the rich and famous.
What's the membership fee? Maybe you mean that anyone who joins the military
when there is a draft is a draft dodger. How about all those guys that
joined the military during the civil war, WW1, WW2, and Korea. They were all
draft dodgers, right?


"Alan J Giddings" wrote in message
om...
No that is not my point. It is that Bush did not do his duty back
then. He drew on family connections to help him out, like many people
likely did. It's just that most of them don't go about in a bellicose
manner.
Regards,
Alan




longwave January 31st 04 05:14 AM

CW wrote:

How Did Bush dodge military service? By serving in the military? That makes
a lot of sense.


Stop playing dumb. Bush avoided the risk of serving in Vietnam by using
his father's influence to get him into the National Guard where he
effectively disappeared for about a year.


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CW January 31st 04 06:42 AM

That's horse**** and you know it.
"longwave" wrote in message
...
CW wrote:

How Did Bush dodge military service? By serving in the military? That

makes
a lot of sense.


Stop playing dumb. Bush avoided the risk of serving in Vietnam by using
his father's influence to get him into the National Guard where he
effectively disappeared for about a year.


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Michael Moore January 31st 04 12:41 PM

RHF wrote:

AJG,

So Using Your Logic.

AJG - Should WJ Clinton have been excluded from becoming President of
the USofA for Not going to Vietnam or Serving in the US Military ?

AJG - Should WJ Clinton as President of the USofA, have "Recused"
himself from All Military Decisions ?
+ And 'had' Vice-President Al Gore Make All Military Decisions - Because:

* Al Gore DID Serve in the US Military. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Go To Vietnam. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Serve His Country With Honor. [ FACT ]


I disagree with this last bullet. Gore served a very short
stay as a *reporter*. Didn't like being a reporter in Viet
Nam and so he used his father's influence to get him the
hell out of there. And Bush is no better.

Rich dudes dodging war is nothing new. But when a poor boy,
like Clinton, pulls it off, you kinda got to cheer him on.

--
M2



RHF January 31st 04 08:09 PM

M2,

Of the Three Mentioned 'my personal ranking'
on Military Service to one's Country would be:

1. Al Gore = Regular Army + Vietnam
WP-AL-GORE-ARMY-VIETNAM= http://tinyurl.com/ytvhm

2. GW Bush = Texas ANG + Fighter Pilot

4. WJ Clinton = NO SHOW + Tour in England as an Anti-War Protestor


On "BALLS" then 'my personal ranking would be:

1. BIG BALLS = GW Bush for being a Fighter Pilot.

2. Balls = Al Gore a Army Reporter in Vietnam.

4. NO balls = WJ Clinton an Anti-War Protestor in England.


FWIW: Concerning all three of the above men and their
Public Service in Elected Office.

When WJ Clinton was President - He was MY President [.]

When Al Gore was Vice-President - He was MY Vice-President [.]

Now that GW Bush is President - He is MY President [.]

TBL: Respect the Office and the Men Who Serve in It.


ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts !
..
..
= = = Michael Moore
= = = wrote in message ...
RHF wrote:

AJG,

So Using Your Logic.

AJG - Should WJ Clinton have been excluded from becoming President of
the USofA for Not going to Vietnam or Serving in the US Military ?

AJG - Should WJ Clinton as President of the USofA, have "Recused"
himself from All Military Decisions ?
+ And 'had' Vice-President Al Gore Make All Military Decisions - Because:

* Al Gore DID Serve in the US Military. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Go To Vietnam. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Serve His Country With Honor. [ FACT ]


I disagree with this last bullet. Gore served a very short
stay as a *reporter*. Didn't like being a reporter in Viet
Nam and so he used his father's influence to get him the
hell out of there. And Bush is no better.

Rich dudes dodging war is nothing new. But when a poor boy,
like Clinton, pulls it off, you kinda got to cheer him on.


N8KDV January 31st 04 08:25 PM



RHF wrote:

M2,

Of the Three Mentioned 'my personal ranking'
on Military Service to one's Country would be:

1. Al Gore = Regular Army + Vietnam
WP-AL-GORE-ARMY-VIETNAM= http://tinyurl.com/ytvhm

2. GW Bush = Texas ANG + Fighter Pilot

4. WJ Clinton = NO SHOW + Tour in England as an Anti-War Protestor

On "BALLS" then 'my personal ranking would be:

1. BIG BALLS = GW Bush for being a Fighter Pilot.

2. Balls = Al Gore a Army Reporter in Vietnam.

4. NO balls = WJ Clinton an Anti-War Protestor in England.

FWIW: Concerning all three of the above men and their
Public Service in Elected Office.

When WJ Clinton was President - He was MY President [.]

When Al Gore was Vice-President - He was MY Vice-President [.]

Now that GW Bush is President - He is MY President [.]

TBL: Respect the Office and the Men Who Serve in It.

ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts !
.
.
= = = Michael Moore
= = = wrote in message ...
RHF wrote:

AJG,

So Using Your Logic.

AJG - Should WJ Clinton have been excluded from becoming President of
the USofA for Not going to Vietnam or Serving in the US Military ?

AJG - Should WJ Clinton as President of the USofA, have "Recused"
himself from All Military Decisions ?
+ And 'had' Vice-President Al Gore Make All Military Decisions - Because:

* Al Gore DID Serve in the US Military. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Go To Vietnam. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Serve His Country With Honor. [ FACT ]


I disagree with this last bullet. Gore served a very short
stay as a *reporter*. Didn't like being a reporter in Viet
Nam and so he used his father's influence to get him the
hell out of there. And Bush is no better.

Rich dudes dodging war is nothing new. But when a poor boy,
like Clinton, pulls it off, you kinda got to cheer him on.


Having read that, I think I've got balls! That's a good feeling!

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B



Frank Dresser February 1st 04 03:20 AM


"Michael Moore" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Rich dudes dodging war is nothing new. But when a poor boy,
like Clinton, pulls it off, you kinda got to cheer him on.

--
M2



You should be aware of the allegation that Bill Clinton is the
illigimate son of Winthrop Rockefeller and, as such, is the great
grandson of John D. Rockefeller.

I think I got that one from Pastor David J. Smith.

Frank Dresser




RHF February 1st 04 04:00 AM

N8KDV wrote in message ...
RHF wrote:

M2,

Of the Three Mentioned 'my personal ranking'
on Military Service to one's Country would be:

1. Al Gore = Regular Army + Vietnam
WP-AL-GORE-ARMY-VIETNAM= http://tinyurl.com/ytvhm

2. GW Bush = Texas ANG + Fighter Pilot

4. WJ Clinton = NO SHOW + Tour in England as an Anti-War Protestor

On "BALLS" then 'my personal ranking would be:

1. BIG BALLS = GW Bush for being a Fighter Pilot.

2. Balls = Al Gore a Army Reporter in Vietnam.

4. NO balls = WJ Clinton an Anti-War Protestor in England.

FWIW: Concerning all three of the above men and their
Public Service in Elected Office.

When WJ Clinton was President - He was MY President [.]

When Al Gore was Vice-President - He was MY Vice-President [.]

Now that GW Bush is President - He is MY President [.]

TBL: Respect the Office and the Men Who Serve in It.

ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts !
.
.
= = = Michael Moore
= = = wrote in message ...
RHF wrote:

AJG,

So Using Your Logic.

AJG - Should WJ Clinton have been excluded from becoming President of
the USofA for Not going to Vietnam or Serving in the US Military ?

AJG - Should WJ Clinton as President of the USofA, have "Recused"
himself from All Military Decisions ?
+ And 'had' Vice-President Al Gore Make All Military Decisions - Because:

* Al Gore DID Serve in the US Military. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Go To Vietnam. [ FACT ]

* Al Gore DID Serve His Country With Honor. [ FACT ]

I disagree with this last bullet. Gore served a very short
stay as a *reporter*. Didn't like being a reporter in Viet
Nam and so he used his father's influence to get him the
hell out of there. And Bush is no better.

Rich dudes dodging war is nothing new. But when a poor boy,
like Clinton, pulls it off, you kinda got to cheer him on.


Having read that, I think I've got balls! That's a good feeling!


So Does . . . the Junior Senator from New York: Hillary Clinton :o)


Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B


Michael Moore February 1st 04 07:00 PM

RHF wrote:

M2,

Of the Three Mentioned 'my personal ranking'
on Military Service to one's Country would be:

1. Al Gore = Regular Army + Vietnam
WP-AL-GORE-ARMY-VIETNAM= http://tinyurl.com/ytvhm

2. GW Bush = Texas ANG + Fighter Pilot

4. WJ Clinton = NO SHOW + Tour in England as an Anti-War Protestor


On "BALLS" then 'my personal ranking would be:

1. BIG BALLS = GW Bush for being a Fighter Pilot.

2. Balls = Al Gore a Army Reporter in Vietnam.

4. NO balls = WJ Clinton an Anti-War Protestor in England.


Hey, what happenned to number 3?


--
M2



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