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M February 3rd 04 11:26 AM

BCB DX-ing
 
Anyone here into BCB DX-ing as their main interest please ?

"M"

"Find solutions, not fault."

J999w February 3rd 04 08:26 PM

Anyone here into BCB DX-ing as their main interest please ?

"M"


Meeeeee !

I believe there are others as well.

jw
wb9uai
milwaukee
Icom R71a, Palstar R-30, Kenwood R-1000

Tony Meloche February 3rd 04 08:43 PM



J999w wrote:

Anyone here into BCB DX-ing as their main interest please ?

"M"


Meeeeee !

I believe there are others as well.

jw




I have always done it in tandem with SWDX, though about 70% of the
time, I'm listening to SW.

Tony


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RadioGuy February 4th 04 12:47 AM

Anyone here into BCB DX-ing as their main interest please ?

Sure... it WAS great until all those Latino stations began cluttering up the
band---not to mention the overmodulation products from their transmitters!

Is it true that WSM has been sold out to some Mexican interest?

RG



The Axelrods February 4th 04 02:20 AM



M wrote:

Anyone here into BCB DX-ing as their main interest please ?

"M"

"Find solutions, not fault."


I have been BCB DXing since 1985. LOVE it

--
73 and Best of DX
Shawn Axelrod

Visit the AMANDX DX site with info for the new or experienced listener:

http://www.angelfire.com/mb/amandx/index.html

REMEMBER ON A CLEAR DAY YOU CAN HEAR FOREVER



Craig \(WB6LZV\) February 4th 04 05:44 AM

I got started in BCB DX in the late 1960's as a pre-teen and it continues to
be a favorite. But I absolutely agree with RadioGuy in that the Mexican
stations are trashing up the band. What's also changed over the years,
making station identification more difficult, is the syndication of talk
shows. You just don't find much local content when tuning the band to use
as an aid in ID'ing a station. Don't know if anybody else has noticed that
over the last decade or so.

73's
Craig

"M" wrote in message news:3ALTb.11021$Ii2.5287@lakeread03...
Anyone here into BCB DX-ing as their main interest please ?

"M"

"Find solutions, not fault."




Doug Smith W9WI February 4th 04 05:49 AM

Craig (WB6LZV) wrote:
I got started in BCB DX in the late 1960's as a pre-teen and it continues to
be a favorite. But I absolutely agree with RadioGuy in that the Mexican
stations are trashing up the band. What's also changed over the years,
making station identification more difficult, is the syndication of talk
shows. You just don't find much local content when tuning the band to use
as an aid in ID'ing a station. Don't know if anybody else has noticed that
over the last decade or so.


I rather appreciate Mexican stations. (I probably DX FM more than I do
AM) They tend to have clear and frequent IDs, which is far more than
you can say for most U.S. (and especially Canadian!) stations. Sure,
you do have to take the effort to learn a bit of Spanish but at least on
FM I've found it well worthwhile.

They also seem much better (on average) at selling local advertising
with which you can identify a station.

The big problem on AM is that they're shuffling frequencies like crazy
down there; a printed Mexican AM station guide may not be of much value
for long...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com


Tony Meloche February 4th 04 06:11 AM



"Craig (WB6LZV)" wrote:

I got started in BCB DX in the late 1960's as a pre-teen and it continues to
be a favorite. But I absolutely agree with RadioGuy in that the Mexican
stations are trashing up the band. What's also changed over the years,
making station identification more difficult, is the syndication of talk
shows. You just don't find much local content when tuning the band to use
as an aid in ID'ing a station. Don't know if anybody else has noticed that
over the last decade or so.

73's
Craig




I began BCB DX in the early sixties, and what *I* miss most is that
back then, any and all stations identified *at least* every fifteen
minutes, and most more often than that. Today, I get more clues about
location from the local commercials than anything else, and I have heard
some (usually talk radio, as you imply) that ID only once an hour, best
as I can tell.

Tony


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WShoots1 February 4th 04 06:27 AM

You just don't find much local content when tuning the band to use as an aid
in ID'ing a station. Don't know if anybody else has noticed that over the last
decade or so.

When I made a 2000-mile sentimental road trip just before Xmas 2001, I took all
US highways (no Interstates). I also listened to just AM radio. And I know what
you mean. There was at least one local content station, though. It was in
Louisiana. Hearing "Jingle Bells" sung in French-Acadian was a hoot.

Bill, K5BY
No speaka ze Cajun

MW DXer February 7th 04 06:12 PM

Better enjoy this part of the hobby while you can. Once that f***ing IBOC s**t
starts to be used you won't be able to DX anything anymore.

Stupid. It won't fix anything and will completely destroy one of the most
reliable modes of communication ever used.

RIP AM

N8KDV February 7th 04 06:24 PM



MW DXer wrote:

Better enjoy this part of the hobby while you can. Once that f***ing IBOC s**t
starts to be used you won't be able to DX anything anymore.

Stupid. It won't fix anything and will completely destroy one of the most
reliable modes of communication ever used.

RIP AM


IBOC and BPL. What fun!

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B



Stephen M.H. Lawrence February 7th 04 08:16 PM

I emailed WOR's CE a year or so ago, and his opinion
was that it was basically worthless junk. I've listened to
some of the stations testing IBOC, and have to agree
with the fellow who coined the phrase "IBAC," for
"In - band, adjacent channel."

Since navaids are going the way of the dodo, I think the
FCC should open 300 Khz in the longwave band, and
let the Digital Dummies have their own happy splatter -
fest.

I think it'll die a natural death, though. Who wants to spend
$500 for a receiver so they can hear Glenn Beck or Phil
Hendrie (two of my favorites) in crisp, cell - phone - like
audio quality? Not me.

My thinking is that IBOC will go in the same box as stereo
and quadrature AM.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN



"MW DXer" wrote in message
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| Better enjoy this part of the hobby while you can. Once that f***ing IBOC
s**t
| starts to be used you won't be able to DX anything anymore.
|
| Stupid. It won't fix anything and will completely destroy one of the most
| reliable modes of communication ever used.
|
| RIP AM


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Stephen M.H. Lawrence February 7th 04 08:19 PM


"N8KDV" wrote

| IBOC and BPL. What fun!

Rochester, Minnesota (70 miles away from me in
the Southeastern 'burbs of the Twin Cities) has just
opened a BPL "experiment." I'm contemplating
a trip down there with the old Frog - 7 and a tape
recorder, just to have a listen for myself. Hopefully,
NTIA and FEMA will, along with the radio hobbyist
community, send this thing to the grave.

If I'm able to record some QRM, I'm going to note the
frequencies and severity, turn it into MP3s, and make
the MP3s available to anyone with an interest.

If BPL gets the green light, HF receivers' noise figures
will be absolutely meaningless, and DX will be gone for good.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN


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N8KDV February 7th 04 08:20 PM



"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote

| IBOC and BPL. What fun!

Rochester, Minnesota (70 miles away from me in
the Southeastern 'burbs of the Twin Cities) has just
opened a BPL "experiment." I'm contemplating
a trip down there with the old Frog - 7 and a tape
recorder, just to have a listen for myself. Hopefully,
NTIA and FEMA will, along with the radio hobbyist
community, send this thing to the grave.

If I'm able to record some QRM, I'm going to note the
frequencies and severity, turn it into MP3s, and make
the MP3s available to anyone with an interest.

If BPL gets the green light, HF receivers' noise figures
will be absolutely meaningless, and DX will be gone for good.


Keep us posted, I for one would like to hear what the interference might
sound like.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B




RHF February 7th 04 11:14 PM

DS,

Better some Mexican-Latino AM Stations with local 'original' content:
Then 60 USofA AM Stations all carrying Art Bell / George Noore
"Coast-to-Coast-AM" all night long.

jm2cw ~ RHF
..
..
= = = Doug Smith W9WI
= = = wrote in message ...
Craig (WB6LZV) wrote:
I got started in BCB DX in the late 1960's as a pre-teen and it continues to
be a favorite. But I absolutely agree with RadioGuy in that the Mexican
stations are trashing up the band. What's also changed over the years,
making station identification more difficult, is the syndication of talk
shows. You just don't find much local content when tuning the band to use
as an aid in ID'ing a station. Don't know if anybody else has noticed that
over the last decade or so.


I rather appreciate Mexican stations. (I probably DX FM more than I do
AM) They tend to have clear and frequent IDs, which is far more than
you can say for most U.S. (and especially Canadian!) stations. Sure,
you do have to take the effort to learn a bit of Spanish but at least on
FM I've found it well worthwhile.

They also seem much better (on average) at selling local advertising
with which you can identify a station.

The big problem on AM is that they're shuffling frequencies like crazy
down there; a printed Mexican AM station guide may not be of much value
for long...


Frank Dresser February 8th 04 05:30 AM


"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
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I think it'll die a natural death, though. Who wants to spend
$500 for a receiver so they can hear Glenn Beck or Phil
Hendrie (two of my favorites) in crisp, cell - phone - like
audio quality? Not me.

My thinking is that IBOC will go in the same box as stereo
and quadrature AM.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN


Most radio stations aren't near their fidelity limits now, and I don't
see what the promise of IBOC has to offer.

The comparision with AM stereo is interesting. 20 years ago, many
stations were quick to get on the AM stereo bandwagon, and heavily
promoted their new signal. AM stereo works pretty well, and there were
radios in the shops to buy. It just never caught on with the public.

Frank Dresser



WShoots1 February 8th 04 06:08 AM

I recall that AM stereo had transmitting antenna phase shift problems. Or
something like that.


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