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m II February 12th 04 04:20 AM

A silenced media?
 
Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


mike






Stinger February 12th 04 04:43 AM

I'll bet "The New York Times" will pick it up.

They love to publish stories that are "made up" by clueless reporters.

;^)

-- Stinger

"m II" wrote in message
news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12...
Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


mike








Tony Meloche February 12th 04 04:55 AM



Stinger wrote:

I'll bet "The New York Times" will pick it up.

They love to publish stories that are "made up" by clueless reporters.

;^)

-- Stinger




I would agree. No one has ever accused me of being a George Bush
fan, but this story looked like a boatload of crap to me.

Tony




"m II" wrote in message
news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12...
Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


mike







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Telamon February 12th 04 05:03 AM

In article ,
"Stinger" wrote:

I'll bet "The New York Times" will pick it up.

They love to publish stories that are "made up" by clueless reporters.

;^)

-- Stinger

"m II" wrote in message
news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12...
Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


The article is just a collection of idle speculation in place of facts.
Not newsworthy.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

m II February 12th 04 05:28 AM

Telamon wrote:


The article is just a collection of idle speculation in place of facts.
Not newsworthy.


They seem to have court case numbers and stuff. Fort Bend County. Weird..

http://aacaw.org/news/20031112news.htm
http://www.flora.org/nowar/forum/3938
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91...7_scandal.html



mike
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Mark S. Holden February 12th 04 06:43 AM

m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:


The article is just a collection of idle speculation in place of
facts. Not newsworthy.


They seem to have court case numbers and stuff. Fort Bend County. Weird..

http://aacaw.org/news/20031112news.htm
http://www.flora.org/nowar/forum/3938
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91...7_scandal.html



mike


If you wanted to, you could file a law suit alleging you were raped by
(insert the name of any famous person)

But that wouldn't mean it actually happened.



Tom Sevart February 12th 04 08:54 AM


"m II" wrote in message
news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12...
Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


Why so suspicious? No details of the suicide were given other than it was
by firearm. I guess we'll have to start a "GW Bush Body Count List" like
the conspiracy nuts did with Clinton and list this lady's death as "ruled a
suicide" insinuating otherwise is true.

Both articles appear to be blatant attempts at sensationalism, especially
the Melbourne article.

I honestly think that if there were any substance to it the mainstream media
in the U.S. would have been all over it like a bum on a ham sandwich.

--
Tom Sevart N2UHC
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc



Diverd4777 February 12th 04 12:48 PM

If you were an editor, and this slid across your desk,
you'd think
Nothing really here, lots of hearsay;
no corroboration
PLONK
& keep a close eye on the reporters work..


In article , "Stinger"
writes:


I'll bet "The New York Times" will pick it up.

They love to publish stories that are "made up" by clueless reporters.

;^)

-- Stinger

"m II" wrote in message
news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12...
Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


mike




Frank Dresser February 12th 04 02:04 PM


"Tom Sevart" wrote in message
...


Why so suspicious? No details of the suicide were given other than it

was
by firearm. I guess we'll have to start a "GW Bush Body Count List"

like
the conspiracy nuts did with Clinton and list this lady's death as

"ruled a
suicide" insinuating otherwise is true.


[snip]

Tom Sevart N2UHC
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc



Dave and Joyce of shortwave radio's "The Power Hour" already have the
list on their website:

http://www.thepowerhour.com/postings...body-count.htm

However, the list is missing the name of the greatest of Yale educated
rock stars, Root Boy Slim.

Did Root Boy know too much?:

http://members.aol.com/geekox3/yaleboys.htm

Frank Dresser



Tom Sevart February 12th 04 06:38 PM


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

Dave and Joyce of shortwave radio's "The Power Hour" already have the
list on their website:


This is scary... I think I know the conspiracy nuts too well.

Tom



Tom Sevart February 12th 04 06:56 PM


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

Dave and Joyce of shortwave radio's "The Power Hour" already have the
list on their website:

http://www.thepowerhour.com/postings...body-count.htm



Oh man... reading that you can see how ludicrous it really is. It's even
worse at trying to make connections than the "Clinton Body Count List."

"Died of unknown causes." Just because the cause of death isn't listed in
an obituary doesn't mean it's suspicious. "He was immediately buried and no
autopsy was performed." Autopsies usually aren't performed unless there's
some reason to suspect foul play. This is using the same tactic as the
Clinton list, claiming that since no autopsy was done then it must be
suspicious. That's as good as using the phrase "ruled a suicide" or "an
apparent suicide." If it's apparent they died of a suicide, why is it so
suspicious? A couple of them don't even try to make it sound suspicious.
They just say "he's dead." Whoop-de-doo. Another way they try to
manufacture suspicion is to list anyone who died in a plane crash. As if
aircraft never crash without suspicious causes... And trying to blame a guy
who was killed in Vietnam on Bush is silly. Should he be credited with
saving the lives of the thousands who made it home?

Now they're trying to blame Ron Brown's death on Bush instead of Clinton...
makes you wonder since Bush was the governer of Texas at the time...

Probably the most laughable is claiming that George Bush Sr. was involved in
the Kennedy assassination... "he was in Texas and cannot account for his
whereabouts at the time." Wow, you certainly convinced me.

Conspiracy nuts.... ya gotta love 'em!

Tom



Frank Dresser February 12th 04 08:11 PM


"Tom Sevart" wrote in message
...



Oh man... reading that you can see how ludicrous it really is. It's

even
worse at trying to make connections than the "Clinton Body Count

List."


Yes, but what about the shocking death of Root Boy Slim, possibly the
finest musical artist of the 70s? He had a Yale connection to both
Presidents Bush. Could his death have been the first shot in the
campaign for Bush II?

Might Al Gore have won more states had he chosen Root Boy's 70s
masterpiece "Boogie 'till ya puke", rather than that nauseating
Fleetwood Mac tune?



Probably the most laughable is claiming that George Bush Sr. was

involved in
the Kennedy assassination... "he was in Texas and cannot account for

his
whereabouts at the time." Wow, you certainly convinced me.

Conspiracy nuts.... ya gotta love 'em!

Tom



Have you read "George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography"? It's online:

http://www.the7thfire.com/bushPrefaceTC.htm

The allegations about George Sr. and the Kennedy assassination are he

http://www.the7thfire.com/bush8b.htm

Frank Dresser



LW February 12th 04 08:11 PM

m II wrote...


Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv?


http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3002-8027r.htm is interesting also.

RHF February 13th 04 09:35 AM

= = = (LW)
= = = wrote in message . com...
m II wrote...


Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv?


http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3002-8027r.htm
is interesting also.



FO&A,

Q?. Is this 'quote' a true representation of John F. Kerry's
statement to Congress in 1971 ?

"Mr. Kerry testified in 1971 before the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, however, citing accusations that American soldiers
in Vietnam routinely committed atrocities such as beheadings,
killing children and razing villages. He did not present
evidence of these claims."

Q?. Does anyone know of a specific source for a transcript of
John F. Kerry's actual testimony to the committee ?

iwtk ~ RHF

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Mark S. Holden February 13th 04 01:02 PM

RHF wrote:
snip
Q?. Does anyone know of a specific source for a transcript of
John F. Kerry's actual testimony to the committee ?


Here's a link the VVAW provides on their web site:

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Manifestos/VVAW_Kerry_Senate.html


King Pineapple February 13th 04 08:14 PM

Drooling Leftist Turnip "m II" wrote in message
news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12...

Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv?


Bush should send Bill Clinton to offer condolences to the family.

I sure haven't. I wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious

death.

Oh, come on. Did you ever read her complaint? She's nuttier than a praline
factory.

In her lawsuit she claimed that she and her husband had been abducted and
raped about 100 times by Bush. While he was on the campaign trail. LOL

Look, I believe her. Obviously, the guy making the speeches in Austin wasn't
GWB...it was one of those shape-shifting aliens that Mulder is trailing. No
wait...if it was hundreds of GWB's then that must mean it was that guy from
the Matrix! Yeah, that's the ticket! He can look like anybody because he's
just a bunch of 0's and 1's! And the real power behind it is the
Bilderburgs...or the Trilateral Commission...or the Committee on Foreign
Relations...or the Nazi's who live in that secret base inside the hollow
earth, you know, where they have Hitler's brain inside a jar? Either him or
Batboy.




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The evil anti-matter King Pineapple is lured into a limbo cube, between the
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RHF February 13th 04 08:44 PM

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ...
RHF wrote:
snip
Q?. Does anyone know of a specific source for a transcript of
John F. Kerry's actual testimony to the committee ?


Here's a link the VVAW provides on their web site:

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Manifestos/VVAW_Kerry_Senate.html


= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

MSH,

* The Sunshine Patriot: John Forbes Kerry after Vietnam
Posted by Adam at 12:01 AM Comments (29)
Tuesday, February 10, 2004
http://www.adamyoshida.com/

* "THE NEW SOLDIER" by John Kerry'
http://tastymanatees.com/archives/000167.html

* Pictures of John Kerry Throwing Away "His" Medals. [ NOT ! ]
http://www.tastymanatees.com/archives/000416.html
http://www.bigredone.org/messageboar...284&messages=9


* Stolen Valor B.G. Burkett & Glenna Whitley
B.G. Burkett, in over ten years of research in the National Archives,
filing hundreds of requests for military documents under the Freedom
of Information Act, uncovered a massive distortion of history, a
distortion than cost the U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars. Mr.
Burkett's work has toppled national political leaders and put
criminals in jail.

* Douglas Brinkley's biography "Tour of Duty" chronicles Kerry's
exploits at Valley Forge, where he reportedly followed Fonda onto the
back of that pick-up truck to deliver his own diatribe against the war
in Vietnam.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...9/134218.shtml

JOHN F KERRY: To Know Him - Is To Love Him -or- To Hate Him.

~ RHF

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RHF February 14th 04 12:50 AM

LW,

"Conservatives Shine Spotlight on Kerry's Antiwar Record"
- by SHERYL GAY STOLBERG [ New York Times ]
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/13/po...13VETS.html?th

http://www.nytimes.com/top/news/washington/campaign2004/candidates/johnfkerry/index.html

http://www.pinheadvoodoodolls.com/
http://www.pinheadvoodoodolls.com/Index.asp?ID=Liberal&PID=Dolls.asp?ID=Liberal


stta... ~ RHF
= = = Something To Think About...
..
..
= = = (LW)
= = = wrote in message . com...
m II wrote...


Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv?


http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3002-8027r.htm is interesting also.

tommyknocker February 14th 04 02:59 AM

Tom Sevart wrote:


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

Dave and Joyce of shortwave radio's "The Power Hour" already have the
list on their website:


This is scary... I think I know the conspiracy nuts too well.

Tom


I eagerly await the "Kerry Death List". :)


Doctor Artaud February 22nd 04 08:09 PM

m II wrote in news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12:

Looks like an Arkanside (Arkansas Suicide), very common during the
Clinton administration. So this is a Texaside, what of it? If the media
were willing to allow the following to go largely unreported, why make a
fuss over republican administration era stories of similar deplorability?


http://w3f.com/patriots/bodies.html
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/proph...ntbodycnt.html
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=14

and so on and so forth.

If you actually care about such things, post links to articles during the
Clinton era, then continue on into the Republican era with similar
stories. If you dismiss such items during the Democratic administration,
but fuss over them during the Republican administration, you truly don't
care about the content of the story, rather you see it as a tool to lever
against the political party that you don't support.

This is why I never could understand the hatred directed against the
Liberty Net, they railed against the Clinton administration and they
continue to rail against the Bush administration. It seems that they have
ideals that they expect the ruling parties to adhere to, not giving the
party of their choice carte blanc to commit crimes.

Dr. Artaud


Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


mike



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lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny fist of the
all or nothing."

RHF February 23rd 04 05:34 AM

DA,

How come all the individuals and 'the media' that were running
stories about GW Bush and the Skull and Bones Society.

Are 'now' SILENT about John F. Kerry's Membership in the Skull
and Bones Society.

If John F. Kerry is truly a 'man of the common people' then WHY ?

WHY has John F. Kerry not renounced his past Membership in the
Super Secret Skull and Bones Society ?

John F. Kerry has publicly renounced the Vietnam War before
Congress: Then WHY is John F. Kerry reluctant to publicly
renounced the Exclusive and Elitist Skull and Bones Society ?

How can a Member of the Democrat Party the Party that Claims
to be the 'party' of the "Common Working Man" be a Member of
a Exclusive Super Secret Elitist Skull and Bones Society.

One wonders if John F. Kerry is truly a man of the people or
simply a high placed "Agent" of the Skull and Bones Society.


Can't Hear this on Radio, TV or SW
.... because the Media is Silent ~ RHF
..
..
= = = Doctor Artaud
= = = wrote in message ...
m II wrote in news:naDWb.60199$7Q1.36116@clgrps12:

Looks like an Arkanside (Arkansas Suicide), very common during the
Clinton administration. So this is a Texaside, what of it? If the media
were willing to allow the following to go largely unreported, why make a
fuss over republican administration era stories of similar deplorability?


http://w3f.com/patriots/bodies.html
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/proph...ntbodycnt.html
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=14

and so on and so forth.

If you actually care about such things, post links to articles during the
Clinton era, then continue on into the Republican era with similar
stories. If you dismiss such items during the Democratic administration,
but fuss over them during the Republican administration, you truly don't
care about the content of the story, rather you see it as a tool to lever
against the political party that you don't support.

This is why I never could understand the hatred directed against the
Liberty Net, they railed against the Clinton administration and they
continue to rail against the Bush administration. It seems that they have
ideals that they expect the ruling parties to adhere to, not giving the
party of their choice carte blanc to commit crimes.

Dr. Artaud


Anyone hear anything about this on the radio or tv? I sure haven't. I
wonder what's up. It looks like a very suspicious death.


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/n...3/12/59604.php
http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html


mike


..

Waterperson77 February 23rd 04 09:22 AM

one of the shortwave radio stations did report that both Bush and Kerry are
members of that.

And evven played the voice clips from both of them with each of them saying
that they were.



Frank Dresser February 24th 04 02:36 AM


"RHF" wrote in message
om...
DA,

How come all the individuals and 'the media' that were running
stories about GW Bush and the Skull and Bones Society.

Are 'now' SILENT about John F. Kerry's Membership in the Skull
and Bones Society.

If John F. Kerry is truly a 'man of the common people' then WHY ?

WHY has John F. Kerry not renounced his past Membership in the
Super Secret Skull and Bones Society ?


John Kerry, like George Bush, may not have had the heart to renounce the
Skull & Bones Society:

http://members.aol.com/sneiracs/skulls.htm .

Frank Dresser




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