I heard them say earlier that some of the survivors said that the crew
where cleaning some pumps onboard when the explosion occured..
"Macman" wrote in message
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Wonder if the ship was inbound or outbound? Also, could it have been,
dare
I say, terrorist related????

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:31:32 -0500, "Macman" wrote:

Wonder if the ship was inbound or outbound? Also, could it have been, dare
I say, terrorist related????

At the rate ethanol vaporizes, you couldn't pay me enough to transport a
shipload of it.

"Jim Shaffer, Jr." wrote in message
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At the rate ethanol vaporizes, you couldn't pay me enough to transport
a
shipload of it.



Like the mystery of the Mary Celeste:

http://www.maryceleste.net/

Frank Dresser

"Jim Shaffer, Jr." wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:31:32 -0500, "Macman" wrote:

Wonder if the ship was inbound or outbound? Also, could it have been, dare
I say, terrorist related????

At the rate ethanol vaporizes, you couldn't pay me enough to transport a
shipload of it.


No kidding. I'll be amazed if there's any wreckage bigger than a few
square feet left.

--
Eric F. Richards

"The weird part is that I can feel productive even when I'm doomed."
- Dilbert

Highly doubtful.

"Macman" wrote in message
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Also, could it have been, dare
I say, terrorist related????

Macman wrote:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAVUONI8RD.html

Tanker Explodes, Sinks With 27 People on Board
The Associated Press
Published: Feb 28, 2004

CHINCOTEAGUE, Va. (AP) - A tanker carrying industrial ethanol exploded and
sank about 50 miles off the Virginia coast Saturday night, the Coast Guard
said. Crews were searching for 27 people who were on board.

[Image]

Here is another story:

http://www.11alive.com/news/usnews_a...?storyid=43559

"Bruce Romero" wrote:

a ship went down somewhere...27 onboard with 6 survivors. several bodies
pulled out of the water..


Has anyone found a link to a picture of the T/V Bow Mariner (before
the accident)? I'm trying to figure out the grainy CNN IR image of
the stern sinking. It looks to me like the stern was sheared off
completely from the rest of the ship, but I can't tell whether I'm
looking at an intact stern poking out of the water or a sheared off
point with the stern under water.

Thanks,

Eric

--
Eric F. Richards

"The weird part is that I can feel productive even when I'm doomed."
- Dilbert

"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

"Bruce Romero" wrote:

a ship went down somewhere...27 onboard with 6 survivors. several bodies
pulled out of the water..


Has anyone found a link to a picture of the T/V Bow Mariner (before
the accident)? I'm trying to figure out the grainy CNN IR image of
the stern sinking. It looks to me like the stern was sheared off
completely from the rest of the ship, but I can't tell whether I'm
looking at an intact stern poking out of the water or a sheared off
point with the stern under water.

Per the pic available from the Drudge Report what you are seeing is the intact
stern poking out of the water as it sinks bow first.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

Has anyone heard exact coordinates of the wreck site on these broadcasts?
If anyone has the coordinates, could you please e-mail me?
Thanks!
Mike

I don't think any of you mentioned it but the ship was Houston-bound. I believe
I once worked on it 15-20 years ago, when it was about new. But I may have it
confused with any of the other number of Bow-somethings vessels out there, a
few of which I'd worked on.

Appareently it was under Norwegian charter from a Greek company. Here's a photo
of it during better times:

http://www.naftemporiki.gr/news/stat.../01/881353.htm

The electric motors for the pumps, although sealed, are elevated above the
deck. Now, if they had a pump itself raised out of the tank, leaving an open
access to the tank, and then there was a static electricity discharge
downwind...

I don't think ethanol is used in our gasoline in Texas, but it may be mixed
here at one of the several refineries, before being sent to California.

I'm wondering what the ethanol is doing off the east coast. I thought the stuff
was made in the Midwest.

By the way... It takes more energy to make ethanol that the resulting ethanol
can deliver. It's a corn subsidy thing. Pay the farmers to plant all the same
stuff, so we have to import what we really need.

Bill, K5BY
Houston/Galveston area