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Dxluver March 2nd 04 07:05 AM

Does anyone know anything about this product?
 
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?

Beloved Leader March 2nd 04 02:22 PM

(Dxluver) wrote in message ...

At Radio Shack, they have this pair of phones that are 99.99....



Everything at Radio Shack goes on sale eventually. Count on those
headphones to be marked down to $59.99 or $69.99 in a few weeks or
months.

David March 2nd 04 02:56 PM

If you were building a racing bike or a jet fighter titanium might
mean something. In this context it is equivalent to zirconium.

On 02 Mar 2004 07:05:25 GMT, (Dxluver) wrote:

At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?



Tony Meloche March 2nd 04 03:33 PM



David wrote:

If you were building a racing bike or a jet fighter titanium might
mean something. In this context it is equivalent to zirconium.



If titanium refers to the headphone frame itself, you're right -
it's meaningless. But I *think* it refers to the speaker diaphragms, or
the coating on them - a lot of manufacturers are going to that.

Tony




On 02 Mar 2004 07:05:25 GMT, (Dxluver) wrote:

At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?



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Gregg March 2nd 04 04:00 PM

I have a set of RS titanium phones and they are great for music.

For SWL, get the $19.95 Koss - you won't notice the difference.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

David March 2nd 04 05:14 PM

Meaningless fad for earphones. If the extra strength of titanium were
needed the earphones would be so loud as to deafen the listener.

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 10:33:42 -0500, Tony Meloche
wrote:



David wrote:

If you were building a racing bike or a jet fighter titanium might
mean something. In this context it is equivalent to zirconium.



If titanium refers to the headphone frame itself, you're right -
it's meaningless. But I *think* it refers to the speaker diaphragms, or
the coating on them - a lot of manufacturers are going to that.

Tony




On 02 Mar 2004 07:05:25 GMT, (Dxluver) wrote:

At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?



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the captain March 2nd 04 06:50 PM

I have a pair of PRO-25 titanium headphones that are quite nice and
they cost less than $40 new (I got mine used for $5 at a thrift store)


(Dxluver) wrote in message ...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?


RHF March 2nd 04 08:16 PM

DX Luver,


Since You Asked !
Why not SAVE SIXTY DOLLARS $60
NOW ON SALE - I Got Mine :o)

RadioShack Stereo Headphones with Titanium Diaphragms
SALE PRICE: $39.99 Reg.$49.99
Catalog #: 33-1182
Lightweight, full-sized stereo headphones produce dynamic sound
and are perfect for listening from your computer, MP3 or CD player.
The titanium diaphragms allow full and accurate sound reproduction.
Closed ear cushions provide better isolation and deep bass performance.

PRODUCT FEATURES:
• Adjustable, padded headband
• 8-foot phone cord
• Gold-plated 1/8" right angle stero plug

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Frequency Response: 20-20,000 Hz
• Maximum Input Power: 100 mW
• Impedance: 60 ohm
• Nominal Sensitivity: 98dB
• Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.2% at 95 dB SPL, 400Hz and 1 KHz

hth ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Dxluver)
= = = wrote in message ...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?

..

RHF March 2nd 04 08:16 PM

DX Luver,

Since You Asked !
Why not SAVE SIXTY DOLLARS $60
NOW ON SALE - I Got Mine :o)

RadioShack Stereo Headphones with Titanium Diaphragms
SALE PRICE: $39.99 Reg.$49.99
Catalog #: 33-1182
Lightweight, full-sized stereo headphones produce dynamic sound
and are perfect for listening from your computer, MP3 or CD player.
The titanium diaphragms allow full and accurate sound reproduction.
Closed ear cushions provide better isolation and deep bass performance.

PRODUCT FEATURES:
• Adjustable, padded headband
• 8-foot phone cord
• Gold-plated 1/8" right angle stero plug

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Frequency Response: 20-20,000 Hz
• Maximum Input Power: 100 mW
• Impedance: 60 ohm
• Nominal Sensitivity: 98dB
• Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.2% at 95 dB SPL, 400Hz and 1 KHz

hth ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Dxluver)
= = = wrote in message ...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?

..

starman March 2nd 04 09:13 PM

Dxluver wrote:

At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?


The plastic (mylar?) diaphrams of each headphone (speaker) are coated
with a thin layer of titanium. The value of this feature is quesionable.
The word 'titanium' is a big selling point these days so that's the main
reason they do it. Look in the spec's for frequency range and distortion
levels.


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Stinger March 2nd 04 10:39 PM

You can find anything from the cheapest pair of earbuds to audiophile
headphones costing over $1000 at this site:

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php?topicID=1

-- Stinger

"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are

made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with

any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I

have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need

some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this

one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the

group?



Joe Strain March 2nd 04 10:50 PM

There is a product called GOOP that you can use to repair rubber & vinyl
it is so tough it is sold to the Nike-Rebok crowd as "SHOE-GOO" to rebuild
soles, toes, heels...dries to pure rubber

I usd it to rescue deteriorated cups on a KOSS headset

Yodar
"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are

made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with

any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I

have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need

some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this

one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the

group?



Jim Douglas March 3rd 04 12:53 AM

Bet they don't alot of those the the gangsters that come in for cell phones!

"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are

made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with

any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I

have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need

some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this

one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the

group?



CW March 3rd 04 03:51 AM

First thing. Did you check on the availability of the foam for your present
pair?

"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are

made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with

any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I

have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need

some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this

one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the

group?



Dxluver March 3rd 04 07:15 AM

For SWL, get the $19.95 Koss - you won't notice the difference.

If I remember right though (and I might be wrong) the Koss isn't a 'cushy'
headphone is it? I remember seeing them, didn't think to much of them. What
is the part that encircles your ear made of?

I'll make a note of what you said if you'll respond. Thanks Gregg.

Dxluver March 3rd 04 07:29 AM

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Frequency Response: 20-20,000 Hz
• Maximum Input Power: 100 mW
• Impedance: 60 ohm
• Nominal Sensitivity: 98dB
• Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.2% at 95 dB SPL, 400Hz and 1 KHz


Are those good specs though RHF for dxing? Anyone in the knows here? I don't
want to get a pair of phones that aren't good for long sessions of dxing.

produce dynamic sound
and are perfect for listening from your computer, MP3 or CD player


I use none of these, nor do I forsee it happening in the future.

I'll write down that cat.# and take a look.
****right now though the most important thing to me is getting an 'extension
jack' for my external antenna jack that I can leave plugged in.*****

thanks rhf:-)

Dxluver March 3rd 04 07:31 AM

Look in the spec's for frequency range and distortion
levels.


I wouldn't know exactly what numbers to look for Starman. What about the
numbers on the one RHF posted?

Dxluver March 3rd 04 07:38 AM

First thing. Did you check on the availability of the foam for your present
pair?


Meaning? Ask them "hey, do you happen to have an extra set of foam cups for
my phones I wore out." {?}

Gregg March 3rd 04 09:00 AM

Behold, Dxluver signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

For SWL, get the $19.95 Koss - you won't notice the difference.


If I remember right though (and I might be wrong) the Koss isn't a
'cushy' headphone is it? I remember seeing them, didn't think to much
of them. What is the part that encircles your ear made of?

I'll make a note of what you said if you'll respond. Thanks Gregg.


Koss are VERY cushy - they use foam covered with leatherette.

My Pro-120's did too, but the leatherette wore off, now I just have foam.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

John Miller March 3rd 04 12:50 PM

Dxluver wrote:

Meaning? Ask them "hey, do you happen to have an extra set of foam cups
for
my phones I wore out." {?}


Didn't catch the brand you've got, but some (many?) manufacturers carry
replacement ear pads. For Sony, you'd better be sitting down when they
tell you the price.

--
John Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

There are bugs and then there are bugs. And then there are bugs.
-Karl Lehenbauer


Tony Meloche March 3rd 04 03:09 PM



Dxluver wrote:

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Frequency Response: 20-20,000 Hz
• Maximum Input Power: 100 mW
• Impedance: 60 ohm
• Nominal Sensitivity: 98dB
• Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.2% at 95 dB SPL, 400Hz and 1 KHz


Are those good specs though RHF for dxing? Anyone in the knows here? I don't
want to get a pair of phones that aren't good for long sessions of dxing.

produce dynamic sound
and are perfect for listening from your computer, MP3 or CD player


I use none of these, nor do I forsee it happening in the future.




The specs are good for any kind of listening. For SWDX, or indeed,
any kind of long-term listening, the comfort of the headphones is as
important as the specs. Those headphones wil be plenty "loud" enough
with any receiver, and
the frequency response specs far,far exceed anything you'll need for SW
or MWDX.
Now if you listen to FM radio at all, the specs become much more
important, but those are still fine. The THD figures are also good.
Note you can buy comfortable headphones this good or better at a lower
cost - the titanium thing is, as someone else pointed out, a "buzz" word
selling device as much as anything.

For the record, I like cushy, foam cup phones for serious music
listening, but for radio DX of any kind (and I use phones 95% of the
time) I prefer the very light "on-ear" type. Mine are a $25 Radio Shack
pair, and they work great.

Tony


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CW March 3rd 04 04:20 PM

Yes.
"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
First thing. Did you check on the availability of the foam for your

present
pair?


Meaning? Ask them "hey, do you happen to have an extra set of foam cups

for
my phones I wore out." {?}




David March 3rd 04 05:56 PM

I think for SWL a speaker or headphone that rolls-off the highs at
frequencies above voice range is preferable to a full-range
transducer.

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:09:21 -0500, Tony Meloche
wrote:



Dxluver wrote:

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Frequency Response: 20-20,000 Hz
• Maximum Input Power: 100 mW
• Impedance: 60 ohm
• Nominal Sensitivity: 98dB
• Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.2% at 95 dB SPL, 400Hz and 1 KHz


Are those good specs though RHF for dxing? Anyone in the knows here? I don't
want to get a pair of phones that aren't good for long sessions of dxing.

produce dynamic sound
and are perfect for listening from your computer, MP3 or CD player


I use none of these, nor do I forsee it happening in the future.




The specs are good for any kind of listening. For SWDX, or indeed,
any kind of long-term listening, the comfort of the headphones is as
important as the specs. Those headphones wil be plenty "loud" enough
with any receiver, and
the frequency response specs far,far exceed anything you'll need for SW
or MWDX.
Now if you listen to FM radio at all, the specs become much more
important, but those are still fine. The THD figures are also good.
Note you can buy comfortable headphones this good or better at a lower
cost - the titanium thing is, as someone else pointed out, a "buzz" word
selling device as much as anything.

For the record, I like cushy, foam cup phones for serious music
listening, but for radio DX of any kind (and I use phones 95% of the
time) I prefer the very light "on-ear" type. Mine are a $25 Radio Shack
pair, and they work great.

Tony


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starman March 3rd 04 11:01 PM

David wrote:

I think for SWL a speaker or headphone that rolls-off the highs at
frequencies above voice range is preferable to a full-range
transducer.


I agree. It's not really desirable to have full fidelity headphones for
shortwave listening. They enhance the high frequency heterodynes like
5-Khz, which can be annoying if you don't have a notch filter on your
receiver to remove those het's.


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Telamon March 4th 04 04:36 AM

In article , starman
wrote:

David wrote:

I think for SWL a speaker or headphone that rolls-off the highs at
frequencies above voice range is preferable to a full-range
transducer.


I agree. It's not really desirable to have full fidelity headphones for
shortwave listening. They enhance the high frequency heterodynes like
5-Khz, which can be annoying if you don't have a notch filter on your
receiver to remove those het's.


I use hi fidelity headphones and enjoy the sound from my radios.
Sony MDR-V600

They are the big around the ear type and very comfortable for long
periods of listening.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF March 5th 04 03:35 AM

DX LUVER,

FIRST - Most Headphones today are made for Music Listeners who
want High Fidelity Sound Reproduction. For Radio use this means
FM Stereo Sound.

SECOND - For AM/MW and Shortwave sound reproduction a 'quality'
Headphone that can be used for FM Stereo Listening will do the
Job OK provided that it has a good long term Wear-ability Factor.

For AM/MW Shortwave DXing the Headphone's Wear-Ability-Factor
is Equal to the Headphone's Sound Reproduction Qualities.

For Me - The Headphone's Wear-Ability-Factor is usually an "ODD"
Number and Rating:

#1 = POOR - Less that One Hour and My Ears are 'Sore' and My Head 'Aches'.

#3 = GOOD - After Three Hours My Ears are getting Sore & Sweaty
and My Head is starting to Ache form the pressure of the Headphones.
(Lets me know it time for a Break from the Listening to the Radio.)

#5 = GREAT - After Five Hours My Ears are NOT Sore and My Head
is NOT Aching. (This usually means that I Missed getting up
from the Radio/Receiver and having a Meal :o)

THREE - About Headphones Sound Reproduction "Qualities:
"IF" you have a good AM/MW Shortwave Radio/Receiver that is a
real DX Machine with both Signal and Audio processing features.
Then the Radio/Receiver will be the "Limiting Factor" in the
Audio Chain and the Sound Level and Audio Reproduction that you
Hear on your Headphones will be a faithful reproduction of what
is being provided by your Radio/Receiver and nothing more.

IMHO: Personal Comfort and Wear-Ability is my primary Concern
in 'selecting' a set of today's quality High Fidelity Headphones
for Radio Listening and DXing.

TIP: Go to the RadioShack Store and Put them on your Head (Not
'plug' into anything.) and then walk around the RadioShack Store
for a Half-Hour and get the Feel of the Headphones on your Head.

NOTE: If you are not 'comfortable' Wearing the Headphone with
out any Sound for a Half-an-Hour; then they are not for you [.]

TBL: I trust to my Radios/Receivers to giving me the Sound Level
And Audio Reproduction that I need for Radio Listening and DXing.

BONUS - If you should want to do some FM Stereo Radio Listening
from a Radio that only has a Single Speaker / Mono-Aural Sound.
Then a set of quality High Fidelity Headphones are really Great
for doing some enjoyable Stereo Sound Listening via FM Radio.

mkia ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Dxluver) wrote in message
= = = ...

SPECIFICATIONS:
• Frequency Response: 20-20,000 Hz
• Maximum Input Power: 100 mW
• Impedance: 60 ohm
• Nominal Sensitivity: 98dB
• Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.2% at 95 dB SPL, 400Hz and 1 KHz


Are those good specs though RHF for dxing?


Your 'best' DXing Specs are the ones for your Radio/Receiver.

Anyone in the knows here?



I don't want to get a pair of phones that aren't good for
long sessions of dxing.


Then - Think Comfort First.


produce dynamic sound and are perfect for listening
from your computer, MP3 or CD player


I use none of these, nor do I forsee it happening in the future.

I'll write down that cat.# and take a look.


See the Tip Above.

****right now though the most important thing to me is getting an 'extension
jack' for my external antenna jack that I can leave plugged in.*****


FWIW: RadioShack sells 3Ft-6Ft Mono & Stereo Audio Extension
Cables that do the trick. You can use them as is or modify them
with a small Utility Box that several Audio Output Jacks to meet
your specific Audio 'connection' needs.

TIP: These same 3Ft-6Ft Mono & Stereo Audio Extension Cables
can be used for the External 1'8" Antenna "INPUTS" that are use
on many 'portable' AM/FM/Shortwave Radios. Leave it connected to
the Radio and connect and disconnect the Antennas for the other
end of the Extension Cable. (Save the Radio's External Antenna
Input from 'wear-an-tear'. Again you can modify this Cable with
a small Utility Box that several Antenna Input Jacks and Terminals
to meet your specific Antenna 'connection' needs. Also, you can
include some circuity to provide a small level of Radio/Receive
PROTECTION from EMF and ESD.

READ: Portable Radio Antenna Input Protection
[ Three Levels: Good / Better / Best ! ]
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/126


thanks rhf:-)

..
REMEMBER: "The Shortwave Antenna is 55.5% of the . . .
Radio/Receiver and Antenna/Ground Reception Equation"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/288
A Shortwave Antenna is "Equally" Important for Good Reception [.]
..
..
iane ~ RHF
..
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night...
You Can Hear Forever and beyond, The Beyond !
..
..

Dxluver March 6th 04 10:26 AM

Koss are VERY cushy - they use foam covered with leatherette.

My Pro-120's did too, but the leatherette wore off, now I just have foam.


that'll work, thanks for the info. I wonder how this rat shack episode
goes...lol...just kidding. I'll go to the local (good so far) one.

Dxluver March 6th 04 10:28 AM

My Pro-120's did too, but the leatherette wore off, now I just have foam.

That's where you encircle them with electrical tape. :-) I did my Pro 40's and
they look good and it served the purpose.

Dxluver March 6th 04 10:36 AM

DX LUVER,

FIRST - Most Headphones today are made for Music Listeners who
want High Fidelity Sound Reproduction. For Radio use this means
FM Stereo Sound.

SECOND - For AM/MW and Shortwave sound reproduction a 'quality'
Headphone that can be used for FM Stereo Listening will do the
Job OK provided that it has a good long term Wear-ability Factor.

For AM/MW Shortwave DXing the Headphone's Wear-Ability-Factor
is Equal to the Headphone's Sound Reproduction Qualities.

For Me - The Headphone's Wear-Ability-Factor is usually an "ODD"
Number and Rating:

#1 = POOR - Less that One Hour and My Ears are 'Sore' and My Head 'Aches'.

#3 = GOOD - After Three Hours My Ears are getting Sore & Sweaty
and My Head is starting to Ache form the pressure of the Headphones.
(Lets me know it time for a Break from the Listening to the Radio.)

#5 = GREAT - After Five Hours My Ears are NOT Sore and My Head
is NOT Aching. (This usually means that I Missed getting up
from the Radio/Receiver and having a Meal :o)

THREE - About Headphones Sound Reproduction "Qualities:
"IF" you have a good AM/MW Shortwave Radio/Receiver that is a
real DX Machine with both Signal and Audio processing features.
Then the Radio/Receiver will be the "Limiting Factor" in the
Audio Chain and the Sound Level and Audio Reproduction that you
Hear on your Headphones will be a faithful reproduction of what
is being provided by your Radio/Receiver and nothing more.

IMHO: Personal Comfort and Wear-Ability is my primary Concern
in 'selecting' a set of today's quality High Fidelity Headphones
for Radio Listening and DXing.

TIP: Go to the RadioShack Store and Put them on your Head (Not
'plug' into anything.) and then walk around the RadioShack Store
for a Half-Hour and get the Feel of the Headphones on your Head.

NOTE: If you are not 'comfortable' Wearing the Headphone with
out any Sound for a Half-an-Hour; then they are not for you [.]


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good post rhf, yeah I don't do the fm listening thing so that's not a problem.
I'll check out those Koss ones when I get a chance for 19.99 and see.
'Thanks again

Dxluver March 6th 04 10:38 AM

Didn't catch the brand you've got, but some (many?) manufacturers carry
replacement ear pads. For Sony, you'd better be sitting down when they
tell you the price.


these were radio shacks Optimus Pro 40's. I'll bring em' in also, so they're
there in front of them....lol. See if they have any 'cups.' I doubt it, but
it's worth a try.

starman March 10th 04 12:55 AM

I have two pairs of RS Pro-25's. I bought them for $19.95 each when they
went on sale every year. They have very good sound with low distortion.
They were made for RS by Koss.

Getting back to the topic, I still don't recommend full range (fidelity)
headphones for shortwave listening. They exaggerate the high frequency
heterodynes, if they can't be removed with a notch filter or bandpass
filtering on the receiver. You may not always be aware of those het'
tones but they can lead to listener fatique.
Some of the best shortwave headphones are the old ones with full ear
cups that use small cheap speakers. You can find them at garage sales
and flea markets. They have the kind of speakers found inside of
computer cases which make the 'beap' when you turn the computer on.

the captain wrote:

I have a pair of PRO-25 titanium headphones that are quite nice and
they cost less than $40 new (I got mine used for $5 at a thrift store)

(Dxluver) wrote in message ...
At Radio Shack, they have this pait of phones that are 99.99 that are made out
of titanium. They fit super and definitely 'felt' expensive. Anyone with any
experience with these. Would they be good for DXing?

I have the Optimus Pro40's and have worn out the inside foam part so I have
black electrical tape nicely encircled into it. But I definitely need some
news phones, and I looked at the others and they were junk except this one
pair.

Figures it's made out of titanium and cost $99.99
Is there something I should look at in the specs to bring back to the group?



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N8KDV March 10th 04 01:08 AM



starman wrote:

I have two pairs of RS Pro-25's. I bought them for $19.95 each when they
went on sale every year. They have very good sound with low distortion.
They were made for RS by Koss.

Getting back to the topic, I still don't recommend full range (fidelity)
headphones for shortwave listening. They exaggerate the high frequency
heterodynes, if they can't be removed with a notch filter or bandpass
filtering on the receiver. You may not always be aware of those het'
tones but they can lead to listener fatique.
Some of the best shortwave headphones are the old ones with full ear
cups that use small cheap speakers. You can find them at garage sales
and flea markets. They have the kind of speakers found inside of
computer cases which make the 'beap' when you turn the computer on.


That's why I've always liked my 'el cheapo RS (Archer) 16 ohm phones.

Good voice quality.


ShackOfRadios March 10th 04 01:27 AM

Just go to radioshack to play with their demos and milk them for
information, don't spend your money there, they are crooks.

Don't shop at radioshack they run sweatshops.
http://12.22.230.41/MicroTech/Hosted/Files/issue1-demands_of_free_labour(10-39AM)1.mp3
That is a recording of my assistant manager Kevin Sutherland and my
manager Kevin Huang (the oriental guy in the recording) in Mapleview
Mall Radioshack, Burlington Ontario Canada (905-681-7353 is their
phone number, verify the voice if you like).
There are no conditions under which it is appropriate to demand free
off-the-clock labor.

You may also contact him directly at (905) 541 0833
Furthermore you may contact head office at (705) 728 7474
Or email them at


Making people work for free is the same as stealing, and it is also
fraud since hours have to be incorrectly reported. Let these people
know how criminal their activities are.

(Dxluver) wrote in message ...
DX LUVER,

FIRST - Most Headphones today are made for Music Listeners who
want High Fidelity Sound Reproduction. For Radio use this means
FM Stereo Sound.

SECOND - For AM/MW and Shortwave sound reproduction a 'quality'
Headphone that can be used for FM Stereo Listening will do the
Job OK provided that it has a good long term Wear-ability Factor.

For AM/MW Shortwave DXing the Headphone's Wear-Ability-Factor
is Equal to the Headphone's Sound Reproduction Qualities.

For Me - The Headphone's Wear-Ability-Factor is usually an "ODD"
Number and Rating:

#1 = POOR - Less that One Hour and My Ears are 'Sore' and My Head 'Aches'.

#3 = GOOD - After Three Hours My Ears are getting Sore & Sweaty
and My Head is starting to Ache form the pressure of the Headphones.
(Lets me know it time for a Break from the Listening to the Radio.)

#5 = GREAT - After Five Hours My Ears are NOT Sore and My Head
is NOT Aching. (This usually means that I Missed getting up
from the Radio/Receiver and having a Meal :o)

THREE - About Headphones Sound Reproduction "Qualities:
"IF" you have a good AM/MW Shortwave Radio/Receiver that is a
real DX Machine with both Signal and Audio processing features.
Then the Radio/Receiver will be the "Limiting Factor" in the
Audio Chain and the Sound Level and Audio Reproduction that you
Hear on your Headphones will be a faithful reproduction of what
is being provided by your Radio/Receiver and nothing more.

IMHO: Personal Comfort and Wear-Ability is my primary Concern
in 'selecting' a set of today's quality High Fidelity Headphones
for Radio Listening and DXing.

TIP: Go to the RadioShack Store and Put them on your Head (Not
'plug' into anything.) and then walk around the RadioShack Store
for a Half-Hour and get the Feel of the Headphones on your Head.

NOTE: If you are not 'comfortable' Wearing the Headphone with
out any Sound for a Half-an-Hour; then they are not for you [.]


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good post rhf, yeah I don't do the fm listening thing so that's not a problem.
I'll check out those Koss ones when I get a chance for 19.99 and see.
'Thanks again



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