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people get their R-75 modified to make it work. why not the same
leeway with the 394. judge a fixed one, not a stock one. "WG" wrote in message news:ubA1c.65940$A12.16971@edtnps84... What is misleading about the truth. The rig is junk. You don't say what you are comparing to. I have mine side by side with a Yeasu FT-100d and I must say that even without the AM filter the Yeasu's receiver beats the 394's hands down. You may want to look up some of the less then good reviews in most of the radio publications. Radio Shack had to give them away at less then 1/2 the list price in the last year of its run. |
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WG wrote:
What is misleading about the truth. The rig is junk. You don't say what you are comparing to. I have mine side by side with a Yeasu FT-100d and I must say that even without the AM filter the Yeasu's receiver beats the 394's hands down. You may want to look up some of the less then good reviews in most of the radio publications. Radio Shack had to give them away at less then 1/2 the list price in the last year of its run. If it's "junk", - why do you keep it? - why do you use it? - why don't you give it someone who appreciates it? - why don't you sell it? - why don't you throw it out? - why don't you improve it? You'll be pleasantly surprised at the results. - why don't you do something about it? Comparisons: I have a Drake R-4B, great radio in its day, but the DX-394 beats it hands down when it comes to warmup time and drift, speed and convenience of tuning, sensitivity above 15MHz and frequency range covered. The R-4B wins on immunity to overload and selectivity - both front end and IF - and it smells (that could be positive or negative) of warm dust and resins. Reviews: both the ARRL Lab and the Radio Netherlands rated it good value for money, 4 stars from the latter, when it was still selling for $300, before upgrades. The majority of personal reviews on eHam.net agree; a small minority of extremists rate it the way you do. Radio Shack consistently sells off old stock at half price or less. Seven years after it was introduced, Radio Shack Canada cleared them out at what was then around US$85. Nothing unusual in that. That's what got me going again in this hobby. Why was there leftover stock? Perhaps they overestimated the potential market for mid-range, tabletop communications receivers. I daresay that more than 10,000 were manufactured - a large number for this market - hence the RADIOSHACKDX394 SIG is one of the largest receiver-specific communities, exceeded only by the DX-398 SIG. Tom |
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Mike Maghakian wrote:
all these issues are covered by easy fixes, if you don't want to do them , then the DX-394 is NOT the radio for you. My 394 is selective (mod), quiet (inherently), has no pops(mod) and is a very nice radio. I would pay a lot lot more than $50 for one and buy a dozen at a time if I could. What are the main weak points of the DX-394 that need to be addressed to make it a decent receiver? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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starman wrote:
Mike Maghakian wrote: all these issues are covered by easy fixes, if you don't want to do them , then the DX-394 is NOT the radio for you. My 394 is selective (mod), quiet (inherently), has no pops(mod) and is a very nice radio. I would pay a lot lot more than $50 for one and buy a dozen at a time if I could. What are the main weak points of the DX-394 that need to be addressed to make it a decent receiver? By joining the RADIOSHACKDX394 SIG at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RADIOSHACKDX394/, you will automatically receive the DX-394 FAQ and an index to over 50 mods. From the FAQ: Best Mods Much depends on your listening objectives and the radio frequency environment in your area. The DX-394 is certainly deficient in the areas of selectivity, overload and shielding so these are areas of improvement that are probably of common interest and benefit. Other modifications may be of more special interest. Here are the key mods and tips: 1. Frank Cathell's Crosstalk mods are a must to correct a design deficiency in all models that results in strong stations 15-40 kHz away from the desired frequency being detected as though they were on frequency. 2. One of the IF filter mods is also highly advisable - Frank's "Poor Man's Kiwa" that changes the logic to force the narrower filter in all modes is the easiest. 3. The DX-394 is susceptible to overload from strong signals and internally generates multiple appearances of them. Countermeasures depend on the desired frequency band and the frequencies of the offending signals: a) For SW listening bothered by LW/MW overload, a 1.8 MHz outboard high pass filter is a great start. b) For SW listening suffering from SW overload, a passive pre-selector (tuned or fixed bandpass) or a high quality active pre-selector may help on SW bands removed from the interfering frequencies. c) For LW and MW listening, it may be necessary to shield or disable the built-in antenna and use a tuned loop external antenna for added selectivity and directionality to discriminate against the strong signals. d) An outboard attenuator may also be necessary in difficult conditions in any of these cases. Fortunately, apart from shielding or disabling the ferrite antenna, all of these are tips, not modifications of the DX-394, but are covered under Mods because overload is such a common problem. 4. Shielding is also essential for the suppression of interference picked up from computers and CRT's operating in close proximity to the DX-394. Its plastic case is useless in this respect - SW signals can be picked up even with the whip antenna removed. Tom Holden's "Ultimate Shields" mod is among the most effective for both RF and magnetic screening Tom |
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Hi Tom,
I agree with you 1,000%. And I too saw the 4 star Radio Netherlands review of the original DX-394 prior to buying it. Between that review and what my ham friend thought of it (he had one of the original ones), I bought it. But he insisted I find a "B" model since they were the same discontinued price here in Cananda. That receiver basically brought me back into SWL. I loved it contrary to the frequent put down in this newsgroup of that receiver. I added good external speakers and eventually a DSP-40 unit to it. Eventually I graduated to a Sat-800. Now my best friend has it and he too loves it. It serves his needs quite well. To each his/her own. Take Care Abb N VE3003SWL Windsor, Ontario, Canada "Tom Holden" wrote in message .. . WG wrote: What is misleading about the truth. The rig is junk. You don't say what you are comparing to. I have mine side by side with a Yeasu FT-100d and I must say that even without the AM filter the Yeasu's receiver beats the 394's hands down. You may want to look up some of the less then good reviews in most of the radio publications. Radio Shack had to give them away at less then 1/2 the list price in the last year of its run. If it's "junk", - why do you keep it? - why do you use it? - why don't you give it someone who appreciates it? - why don't you sell it? - why don't you throw it out? - why don't you improve it? You'll be pleasantly surprised at the results. - why don't you do something about it? Comparisons: I have a Drake R-4B, great radio in its day, but the DX-394 beats it hands down when it comes to warmup time and drift, speed and convenience of tuning, sensitivity above 15MHz and frequency range covered. The R-4B wins on immunity to overload and selectivity - both front end and IF - and it smells (that could be positive or negative) of warm dust and resins. Reviews: both the ARRL Lab and the Radio Netherlands rated it good value for money, 4 stars from the latter, when it was still selling for $300, before upgrades. The majority of personal reviews on eHam.net agree; a small minority of extremists rate it the way you do. Radio Shack consistently sells off old stock at half price or less. Seven years after it was introduced, Radio Shack Canada cleared them out at what was then around US$85. Nothing unusual in that. That's what got me going again in this hobby. Why was there leftover stock? Perhaps they overestimated the potential market for mid-range, tabletop communications receivers. I daresay that more than 10,000 were manufactured - a large number for this market - hence the RADIOSHACKDX394 SIG is one of the largest receiver-specific communities, exceeded only by the DX-398 SIG. Tom |
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but think how much more you/your friend would like a "fixed" DX394.
Hi Tom, I agree with you 1,000%. And I too saw the 4 star Radio Netherlands review of the original DX-394 prior to buying it. Between that review and what my ham friend thought of it (he had one of the original ones), I bought it. But he insisted I find a "B" model since they were the same discontinued price here in Cananda. That receiver basically brought me back into SWL. I loved it contrary to the frequent put down in this newsgroup of that receiver. I added good external speakers and eventually a DSP-40 unit to it. Eventually I graduated to a Sat-800. Now my best friend has it and he too loves it. It serves his needs quite well. To each his/her own. Take Care Abb N VE3003SWL Windsor, Ontario, Canada |
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MY opinion is the following:
1) replace one or both of the IF filters, if both are done, a variable cap must be added across X2 and a switch must be added to go between the filters. 2) remove the purple wire and stop the tuning pops 3) add two caps for the Xtalk fix 4) add a cap to increase bass response 5) add a cap to further reduce AC hum I would not do the hiss mod and I would either replace the speaker or use a nice external one. a lot of the other mods are a waste of time. I won't mention which they are but I have tried most of them. I think I recently made the worlds best DX-394 by doing all of these mods. I used a Hi-Fi filter in the wide position, spec is 8/12. and a DX filter in the narrow position, spec is 5/7. I can handle anything now Mike "starman" wrote in message ... Mike Maghakian wrote: all these issues are covered by easy fixes, if you don't want to do them , then the DX-394 is NOT the radio for you. My 394 is selective (mod), quiet (inherently), has no pops(mod) and is a very nice radio. I would pay a lot lot more than $50 for one and buy a dozen at a time if I could. What are the main weak points of the DX-394 that need to be addressed to make it a decent receiver? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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mike maghakian wrote:
MY opinion is the following: 1) replace one or both of the IF filters, if both are done, a variable cap must be added across X2 and a switch must be added to go between the filters. 2) remove the purple wire and stop the tuning pops 3) add two caps for the Xtalk fix 4) add a cap to increase bass response 5) add a cap to further reduce AC hum I would not do the hiss mod and I would either replace the speaker or use a nice external one. a lot of the other mods are a waste of time. I won't mention which they are but I have tried most of them. I think I recently made the worlds best DX-394 by doing all of these mods. I used a Hi-Fi filter in the wide position, spec is 8/12. and a DX filter in the narrow position, spec is 5/7. I can handle anything now Mike What about the strong signal overloading (intermod's) that others have mentioned? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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starman wrote:
mike maghakian wrote: MY opinion is the following: 1) replace one or both of the IF filters, if both are done, a variable cap must be added across X2 and a switch must be added to go between the filters. 2) remove the purple wire and stop the tuning pops 3) add two caps for the Xtalk fix 4) add a cap to increase bass response 5) add a cap to further reduce AC hum I would not do the hiss mod and I would either replace the speaker or use a nice external one. a lot of the other mods are a waste of time. I won't mention which they are but I have tried most of them. I think I recently made the worlds best DX-394 by doing all of these mods. I used a Hi-Fi filter in the wide position, spec is 8/12. and a DX filter in the narrow position, spec is 5/7. I can handle anything now Mike What about the strong signal overloading (intermod's) that others have mentioned? That's a problem with every radio at some level, moreso with very sensitive ones with wide tuning ranges and lower cost - that description fits the DX-394. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has succeeded in making a marked improvement to overload with internal mods. I experimented with increased bias on the internal RF preselector switching diodes and obtained subtle improvement. I have been wanting to replace them with PIN diodes but have yet to source some suitable surface mount devices. However, I suspect the main intermod generator is the RF amplifier or the 1st mixer. Fortunately, huge improvement can be made by external pre-filtering; and this is true for any receiver with an antenna input jack that suffers from overload. Mike, you are rightfully proud of your modified DX-394's but to assert it's the "world's best DX-394" is an exaggeration. There are others who have installed superior filters (narrower Collins mechanical, e.g. 2.3/4 to use your notation) and have made the necessary changes so that the upper and lower BFO frequencies and filter are properly aligned for true single sideband, not the compromise you have made by placing the BFO in the middle of the passband. That makes their modified DX-394 better than yours for SSB/CW reception. And if that sharper filter is switchable for AM mode (a trivial mod compared to replacing the filter), then it's better than yours for picking out one sideband or the other in a crowded SWBC band where the channel spacing is 5kHz. To disparage other mods as a 'waste of time' is provocative. That reflects, in part, your interests and values and perhaps your marketing objectives. Elsewhere you have stated that you are not interested in SSB/CW and digital modes - some of the other mods are of primary benefit to these modes. And to make the claim of a "hi-fi" filter (the stock AM filter that is widely denigrated for being too wide could be so described, too) and place so much emphasis on audio improvements (bass and hum) without also recognising the benefits to the quality of amplitude modulation reception of certain AGC mods and the ANL Defeat mod seems to be inconsistent with achieving the "best", even for AM. "Best" for one person is not necessarily "best" for another. Cost ($ and effort), location relative to powerful transmitters, bands/modes of interest, etc. will all factor into each person's evaluation of a receiver and the possible improvements that can be made. Regards, Tom |