Wayne Green on C to C AM Thursday 3/18
 

Wayne Green W2NSD the editor of the former 73 Magazine
and David Booth (2004 Earth Changes) will be George Noorey's
special guest on Coast to Coast AM
Thursday/Friday evening.

On a 1 to 10 scale this show should be a 12 !!

Show info for the above:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/03/18.html

Main: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

See also: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:12:05 -0500, "Sedina II"
wrote:

Wayne Green W2NSD the editor of the former 73 Magazine
and David Booth (2004 Earth Changes) will be George Noorey's
special guest on Coast to Coast AM
Thursday/Friday evening.

On a 1 to 10 scale this show should be a 12 !!

All of these kooks should have disclaimers on their web sites that say
"For entertainment purposes only."

Sedina II wrote:
Wayne Green W2NSD the editor of the former 73 Magazine
and David Booth (2004 Earth Changes) will be George Noorey's
special guest on Coast to Coast AM
Thursday/Friday evening.

On a 1 to 10 scale this show should be a 12 !!

Show info for the above:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/03/18.html

Main: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

See also: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/


Wayne Green. Loser extrordinaire. Failed more ham radio businesses and
magazines than anyone in human history.

I don't want to pay to listen to him, unless I'm writing a book about
"good examples of a bad example".

In article ,
Ida Takencash wrote:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:12:05 -0500, "Sedina II"
wrote:

Wayne Green W2NSD the editor of the former 73 Magazine
and David Booth (2004 Earth Changes) will be George Noorey's
special guest on Coast to Coast AM
Thursday/Friday evening.

On a 1 to 10 scale this show should be a 12 !!

All of these kooks should have disclaimers on their web sites that say
"For entertainment purposes only."


Once that poor lady named Barbara who used to do Coast to Coast on
weekends was stuck with Wayne for four hours. I listened for thirty
minutes, my gorge slowly rising, as he spewed smelly chunk after chunk
of typical Coast to Coast-type utterly baseless drivel, all delivered
without supporting evidence or citation, and in tones of absolute
authority, somewhat as if he Moses on the mount. Wayne Green, at least
when he appears on Coast to Coast, is as full of off-the-wall theories
and opinions as your local surly homeless man. No, I take that back.
He's worse! The fact that he's made a lot of money in his life
apparently means he's never been humbled enough to learn to apply even
the slightest pinch of doubt to his own opinions. He's as sublimely sure
of himself in his nonsense as a petty dictator to whom no-one has ever
said "No."

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

Dave Bushong ) writes:
Sedina II wrote:
Wayne Green W2NSD the editor of the former 73 Magazine
and David Booth (2004 Earth Changes) will be George Noorey's
special guest on Coast to Coast AM
Thursday/Friday evening.

On a 1 to 10 scale this show should be a 12 !!

Show info for the above:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/03/18.html

Main: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

See also: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/


Wayne Green. Loser extrordinaire. Failed more ham radio businesses and
magazines than anyone in human history.

I think he's a kook when he's on the show, because I sure
have not heard him talk of radio, but actually kooky things.

But I don't think it's fair to categorize him as a "loser".

He may have turned CQ around when he was editor in the fifties,
and most definitely one cannot say it was a bad magazine when
he was editor. While he was there, the first practical parametric
amplifer wsa described, along with a practical selectible sideband
synchronous detector. He drew various well known people to the magazine,
Sam Harris and John W. Campbell to name two (I can't remember if Don Stoner
was already there when Wayne took over as editor), as article writers or
columnists.

He left, and started 73. How do you rate a failed magazine? It lasted
over forty years, which is a pretty good life for an independent magazine.
Yes, it decayed badly in it's last ten years, but for 25 years or so
it was a pretty good construction magazine.

He started Byte, and while he lost it within three issues, I don't think
anyone can argue its success. But of course, it only lasted about 20 years.

He started Kilobaud, and it only lasted about 7 or 8 years. But then,
a whole slew of computer magazines, a field that he pretty muchs tarted,
died off at the same time.

He started various magazines dedicated to specific computers, which also
had a relatively limited run, but then, so did the computers they dealt
with. They, and Kilobaud for that matter, I don't think generally failed
under his watch, because he sold them off to IDG for a bundle.

He started a CD magazine, that maybe lasted ten years, but it was pretty
successful for a while. I'm pretty sure he sold it off, again for a bundle,
before it faded away.

Note that with a lot of his magazines that "failed", he was picking topics
that were on a rising curve, where there was a need for specialized
magazines because the topic was so new. They were a source of infortion,
a place to find ads for related items, and a place for advertisers to
reach the specialized field. As such things moved to the mainstream,
they lost steam becuse one could find information elsewhere, and for
that matter one needed the information maybe less because the topic
was all over the place. Take the CD magazine; it arrived when CDs
were relatively new and they could run a list of all CDs in each issue.
You likely had to go out of your way to find CDs, and you needed help
to decide which player to buy, since they were uncommon and quite expensive.
Now, you can buy the players everywhere, and for under a hundred dollars,
and you can find those CDs everywhere too.

Of course Wayne had some magazines that bombed really fast. But over
the same span, plenty of magazines have come and gone. Wayne had the money,
or gumption, to try magazines on new topics, and since he kept trying,
he was bound to fail sometimes. Others would stop after one failure.

How many ham businesses did he ever start? Radio Kits in the sixties?
A useful service for people who wanted to build what were in the magazines but
apparently it was always a money loser. There was a time when he could
publish books, because he had the press for 73. He stopped at some point,
does that make it a failure? He sold code tapes for some years, and then
that too faded away. Does that make it a failure?

Were there some I don't know about? I had suspicions about some advertising
in 73 in the sixties, that happened to be in New Hampshire near 73. Was
it Redline, that made converters? They didn't last too long, but plenty
of such small businesses came and went, even without Wayne's help.

He had his hands in multiple fields, because the core magazine, 73,
was successful enough that he could try other things. The computer magazines
were successful, likely some of them had greater readership than 73 at any
time in its history, and that meant he could try new things. When he
sold them off, the cash meant he could still try new things.

Sure, there was a period when 73 was part of IDG, but that was fallout
from selling the computer magazines. But basically, for over forty years
he was an independent publisher. He never had to go to a regular job,
never had to fallback on that when his projects failed. That has to
make him successful.

Hardly any magazines over the same period were published by independents.
Most were under big publishers. Independents had a tendency to fail.
Or, they'd be sold to the big publishers, and then had tendency to
disappear. Gernsback himself started an awful lot of magazines, and
most of them "failed" too, maybe faster than Wayne's. Gernsback,
the publisher, failed last year, killing it's last remaining magazine,
that basically hadn't had much of a life.

No, I think Wayne was pretty successful.

Michael VE2BVW

"Michael Black" wrote in message
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Hardly any magazines over the same period were published by independents.
Most were under big publishers. Independents had a tendency to fail.
Or, they'd be sold to the big publishers, and then had tendency to
disappear. Gernsback himself started an awful lot of magazines, and
most of them "failed" too, maybe faster than Wayne's. Gernsback,
the publisher, failed last year, killing it's last remaining magazine,
that basically hadn't had much of a life.

No, I think Wayne was pretty successful.

Michael VE2BVW

Gernsback and Green have/had two things in common.
Both sold cleverly veiled bull**** which was *dressed up*
as valid future science to geeks, nerds and fools. Modern day
PT Barnum's who wrap their circus act in 5-point colored
paper. Noorey and Bell do the same thing by giving them
and their ilk an occasional microphone today. If they
were not in print media or broadcasting, they all most certanly
would be selling pre-owned automobiles someplace, or perhaps
partners with shady local politicians.

Gernsback and Green have/had two things in common.
Both sold cleverly veiled bull**** which was *dressed up*
as valid future science to geeks, nerds and fools. Modern day
PT Barnum's who wrap their circus act in 5-point colored
paper. Noorey and Bell do the same thing by giving them
and their ilk an occasional microphone today. If they
were not in print media or broadcasting, they all most certanly
would be selling pre-owned automobiles someplace, or perhaps
partners with shady local politicians.


As guess that's why George booted that one guy off. This guy (Booth maybe?)
and another guy 'supposedly had a meeting with some lady about the 'Fatima' and
led George into thinking it was HUGE.

Then he wouldn't say what this five minute talk with this lady was about. He'd
as Steve would say -~~~**shuck and jive~*~*~and George got ****ed.

He told them he was going to a break and when they came back that would have to
disclose this 'terrible info' (part of the country will be dstroyed in
Sept.-Utah is one of them.

When they came back from break, George went to open lines, he said he owed it
to his audience. These guys acted like they had this terrible info-if you
purchased their tape....lol. George say "bye....you'll never be back on this
show."

Every caller thanked George for that, clealy this guy was about full of
crapola and acted like he was told this terrible info, but wouldn't share
it....lol.

Good for George. :-)

"GO BEARCATS" wrote in message
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As guess that's why George booted that one guy off. This guy (Booth
maybe?)
and another guy 'supposedly had a meeting with some lady about the
'Fatima' and
led George into thinking it was HUGE.

Then he wouldn't say what this five minute talk with this lady was
about. He'd
as Steve would say -~~~**shuck and jive~*~*~and George got ****ed.

He told them he was going to a break and when they came back that
would have to
disclose this 'terrible info' (part of the country will be dstroyed in
Sept.-Utah is one of them.

When they came back from break, George went to open lines, he said
he owed it
to his audience. These guys acted like they had this terrible info-if
you
purchased their tape....lol. George say "bye....you'll never be back
on this
show."

David Booth and Wayne Green owed the show a story. It doesn't really
matter if the story is true but it has to be good. Noory got, at best,
half a story. David Booth couldn't deliver the goods. As if his book
could. I started thinking the book was ghost written, and Booth hasn't
reached the end yet.

If Noory really wanted to punish his lame guest, he should have
challenged him. Was Booth really summoned to the Fatima witness, or is
the story a crock? And what's the deal with his O'hare crash story,
anyway? I'm certainly not suggesting Noory treat all his guests as
frauds, only ones who want our money but don't want to talk.



Every caller thanked George for that, clealy this guy was about full
of
crapola and acted like he was told this terrible info, but wouldn't
share
it....lol.

Good for George. :-)


One caller made a point Noory could have made. Wayne Green was on the
show a few weeks ago and he was telling the audience about all his
wonderful ideas about the future. Now Green brings us a guy who says we
have no future.

I won't read David Booth's book. David Booth may not have read David
Booth's book. But, if there's anything good in there, we'll hear all
about it from Brother Stair.

Frank Dresser

Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:


Gernsback and Green have/had two things in common.
Both sold cleverly veiled bull**** which was *dressed up*
as valid future science to geeks, nerds and fools. Modern day
PT Barnum's who wrap their circus act in 5-point colored
paper. Noorey and Bell do the same thing by giving them
and their ilk an occasional microphone today. If they
were not in print media or broadcasting, they all most certanly
would be selling pre-owned automobiles someplace, or perhaps
partners with shady local politicians.


Aha, you've been reading his editorials, not his magazines.
That is the difference between entertainment and information.

Dave

"Dave Holford" wrote in message
...


Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:


Gernsback and Green have/had two things in common.
Both sold cleverly veiled bull**** which was *dressed up*
as valid future science to geeks, nerds and fools. Modern day
PT Barnum's who wrap their circus act in 5-point colored
paper. Noorey and Bell do the same thing by giving them
and their ilk an occasional microphone today. If they
were not in print media or broadcasting, they all most certanly
would be selling pre-owned automobiles someplace, or perhaps
partners with shady local politicians.


Aha, you've been reading his editorials, not his magazines.
That is the difference between entertainment and information.

Dave

I taped the show last night.
Guess what folks..!

BOTH Wayne and that GOLD PLATED KOOK David
were booted off of the show last night by Noorey!
Seems that Booth did not want to talk about *anything*
and all that Green seemed to want to do was shill for
Booth and his crap for sale. After wasting ONE HOUR of
airtime (..on 500+ AM stations and XM Sat Radio live)
and logging THOUSANDS of listener complain e-mails
that they were cheated, Noorey booted both these
jerks off the program!

BAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Just what these two carnival circuis
sideshow barkers needed! Booth made a
total schmuck of himself and Green sat there
grinning like a cheshire cat with a microphone
inserted up it's anus.....all on live AM Radio.

Here's the official release from C to C AM:

Meeting with Lucia?

Returning to the show, precognitive David Booth
was joined by author Wayne Green to ostensibly
discuss his recent meeting with Lucia, witness to
the Miracles of Fatima in 1917. Booth had been
invited to meet with Sister Lucia, presumably
because of the apocalyptic visions he had in
2003.

Booth said he met Sister Lucia, now 97, at a
Carmelite convent in Portugal and held a
private conversation with her for five minutes.
He would only reveal that he was told that
a "new star" that had been prophesized
about would begin to shine. Because Booth
had been booked on the show to discuss
his meeting with Lucia, and refused to elaborate
further upon it, the interview was cut short, and
the last 90 minutes of the program was
reserved for Open Lines.

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Here's a repost from alt.fan.art-bell
Says it all VERY WELL!

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"fc045" wrote in message
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Noory finally stands up to the fraud$

Remember when Art Bell tried to scare us ****less by bringing on guests
who
predicted the end of the world then actively
selecting which guests he would label on his fraud "list" he would never
have on his show again? He continually
ditched guests and "friends" in a lame attempt to bring integrity to the
show yet only interested in saving his own butt. Things
came to a head when he spooked the Heaven's Gate cult members to kill
themselves. Art was never the wildly alarmist
hit-and-runner like his guests, at least apparently. Whitley ****ter and
Ed
Damn-you-all-to-h*ll we all know are on his team.
They write "collaborative" books like bargian trash bin "superstorm" and
call themselves prophets vs. the "mainstream" media.
Then Art tells them to shut up on end of the world ultimatims and even
Dames
relented that his death prophecies could with .00000001%
chance be "averted" with enough "positive" thinking by Coast listeners.

First there was Nigel Cawler or someone who couldn't come up with the UFO
landing specifics, and Art got "impatient" and knocked him
off after the break in 1996. Follow up to the heady days with the Hale
Bopp
"companion" kept people awake with deathwatch pulses. Then
Art dumped the Reverse Speech guy. Courtney Brown was next. Later on it
was
the guy who lit "flares" in the nevada desert where an old lady in
a wheelchair had traveled there spending hundreds of dollars to see a UFO.

Finally, Noory couldn't stand it anymore. Night after night, he had to
have
the frauds sell their books and videos and make excuses for them.
And now he finally broke with "Wayne Greene" and the "vision-1979" man
tonight-morning. What a schmuck the vision man is saying 97% of
the world's population is going to die in Sept. (read 5.9+ billion people
wasted just like that). If vision-man cared so much for humanity
why doesn't he just offer his information free on his website? At least
put
up a pay-pal donation option like Hoaxland does now.

At least Hoaxland is entertaining. And he's quick on his feet especially
with the scientific stuff. Hoaxie should be a NASA administrator instead
of the lazybum desk pushers in charge of NASA now.

But all the other "end of the world" pushers of their video and books, I'd
say Noory continue and throw them all out if Art won't do it.

(10 million listeners. If only .01% scared ****less listeners bought into
the bunk, that's 1000 people who buy $20-$100 books or video tapes
making a hefty $20,000-$100,000 from 1 night of advertising! This must go
through every bull****ters mind who's lucky or glib enough to
get a guest spot on C2C. No wonder Noory has to reign it in finally. C2C
has
become whose the best bull****ter who can come up with the
best spiel and promote books/tapes so listeners can "learn more". C2C has
become the "Who wants to be a millionare" of the airwaves, or
any of thos "reality" shows which always feature a lame $100,000+ prize at
the end of the season.

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"Dave Holford" wrote in message
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Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:


Gernsback and Green have/had two things in common.
Both sold cleverly veiled bull**** which was *dressed up*
as valid future science to geeks, nerds and fools. Modern day
PT Barnum's who wrap their circus act in 5-point colored
paper. Noorey and Bell do the same thing by giving them
and their ilk an occasional microphone today. If they
were not in print media or broadcasting, they all most certanly
would be selling pre-owned automobiles someplace, or perhaps
partners with shady local politicians.


Aha, you've been reading his editorials, not his magazines.
That is the difference between entertainment and information.

Dave

73 failed because of the "dumbing down" of ham radio. I started
subscribing to 73 and Ham Radio, remember that one, because of their
TECHNICAL content and projects. I look through my late 70s and 80s
issues and they are just full of projects.
Yes, Wayne was full of himself. Tho sometimes he said things againest
the arrl that needed saying, causing food for thought.
What killed 73 was solid state "sealed" rigs that could not be modified
and the manufacturing of full featured radios cheap by yesterdays
standards making homebrewing economically unreasonable. Why do you think
Heath, Echo and other kit manufactures closed. Back in those days all
rigs had huge wiring harnesses that HAD to be hand soldered. Real labor
intensive. Labor costs now with solid state and "computer" type boards
is actually the least of the manufacturing cost. A complete turn around
from the '70s & '80s time frame.
Hams, for the most part, quit building and experimenting. So 73's and
Ham Radio's meat and potatoes disappeared.

Dave Bushong wrote:
Sedina II wrote:

Wayne Green W2NSD the editor of the former 73 Magazine
and David Booth (2004 Earth Changes) will be George Noorey's
special guest on Coast to Coast AM
Thursday/Friday evening.

On a 1 to 10 scale this show should be a 12 !!

Show info for the above:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/03/18.html

Main: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

See also: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/


Wayne Green. Loser extrordinaire. Failed more ham radio businesses and
magazines than anyone in human history.

I don't want to pay to listen to him, unless I'm writing a book about
"good examples of a bad example".

Dave Bushong wrote in message ...
Wayne Green. Loser extrordinaire. Failed more ham radio businesses and
magazines than anyone in human history.

I don't want to pay to listen to him, unless I'm writing a book about
"good examples of a bad example".
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wayne Green loser? You can like or dislike the guy but making such
idiotic statements like that make you look like, well, an idiot. Below
are some of Mr. Green's accomplishments, loser eh? How about postings
yours Bushog? 7-11 cashier, wal-mart stocker, truck driver, am I
close? Sounds like you are a loser in life who's more than a bit
jealous than anyone who actually has a successful and fulfilling life.
Do society a favor and die asshole.
Melvin

From http://www.waynegreen.com
Who is Wayne Green? I'm a been there done that guy. I have......

piloted a nuclear attack submarine 800 feet under the Pacific ocean.
piloted an Air Force C5B (it's bigger than a 747).
climbed the Great Wall of China
visited the Chinese terra cotta army in Xian.
operated a ham station from the famed American Embassy in Tehran.
operated from the Korean Demilitarized Zone.
operated for two weeks from King's Hussein's palace in Amman, Jordan.
visited the lost city of Petra in Jordan.
scuba dived in the Red Sea.
visited 133 countries (so far).
helped new technologies such as cellular telephones. personal
computers, and compact discs to grow into major industries.
represented the US at an international communications conference.
represented New Hampshire for Governor Sununu at a governor's
conference in Halifax.
served on the New Hampshire Economic Development Commission.
been a president of the Peterborough NH Chamber of Commerce.
been on the board of directors of billion dollar IDG corporation.
been a professional psychologist.
had over 1,000 (long) editorials published - so far.
started first digital communications magazine in 1951, (Amateur Radio
Frontiers).
started the first microcomputer magazine (Byte). )
started the first computer magazine devoted to a single computer (80
Micro - for the TRS-80)
started the first Apple magazine (InCider).
started the first Commodore magazine (Run).
started the first laptop computer magazine (Pico).
started one of the first personal computer software companies (Instant
Software).
opened computer software stores - eventually sold a national chain of
58 stores.
while in college started a broadcasting station (WRPI) which is now
the largest student activity.
served on the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Board of Overseers and
RPI Council.
served as the First Executive in Residence at RPI.
served as a consultant for the RPI Business Incubator - which won the
1996 prize as the best in the country.
been a licensed amateur radio operator as W2NSD since 1940.
pioneered amateur radio repeaters since 1969, starting with WRLAAB on
Mt. Monadnock NH.
established amater radio in Jordan in 1970 and wrote their rules and
regulations.
supplied and installed the first repeater in Jordan, J-Y73, in 1973.
helped radio amateurs pioneer FM, radio Teletype, single sideband, and
slow scan TV.
bounced amateur radio signals off the Moon from the big dish at the
Arecibo Observatory, PR.
been editing and publishing amateur radio magazines for 47 years.
a state-of-the-art digital recording studio.
four record labels and produced over 150 CDs.
helped re-popularize ragtime music and personally knows all of the top
ragtime performers.
started 25 successful publications in the radio, computer and music
fields.
published over 100 books.
wrote one of the first books on digital communications.
been on an African hunting safari.
visited the ruins of Ba'albek in Lebanon, the Queen of Sheba's water
catchments in Aden.
visited the Pyramids, the Sphynx. the ruins in Athens, the Taj Mahal
and Katmandu.
visited the head-hunter longhouses in Sarawak.
helped organize and lead trade groups of around 250 people to yearly
electronic shows in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong.
given keynote addresses to radio, educational, computer, and music
conferences.
helped invent a new kind of loud speaker - borrowed $1,000 on my car
to start a manufacturing company and within two and a half years it
became the largest speaker manufacturer in the country with seven
factories.
performed in The Mikado and Pirates of Penzance in high school
served as president of radio clubs in high school and college.
served in Navy 1942-1946 in WWII - electronic technician on USS Drum
SS-228 (which is on display at Mobile, Alabama) for five war patrols.
been a radio engineer and announcer in North Carolina, Florida and
Virginia.
been chief cameraman at WPIX-TV (11) in NYC.
produced and directed network TV shows in Dallas and Cleveland.
a reputation as a gourmet cook.
served as president of Porsche Club of America.
raced my Porsche on the Nurburgring and Solitude race tracks in
Germany.
both driven and navigated in many national SCCA car rallies.
served as a founder and first secretary of American Mensa.
a Ph.D. in Entrepreneurial Science.
lectured on entrepreneurialism at Yale, Boston University, Case
Western, Babson College, RPL and many other colleges.
been on the first commercial airline flight between Philadelphia and
New York in 1927.
flown with father since 1922.
served on the FCC's National Industry Advisory Committee (NIAC).
served on the FCC's Long Range Planning Committee (LRPC).
testified before a Congressional hearing on the music industry.
had the usual toys: airplane, Porsche, yacht, Jaguar, Mercedes 600
Pullman limosine.
worked on a Guggenheim grant on a color organ for the Guggenheim
Museum on 5th Avenue.
graduated Bliss Electrical SchooL Tacoma Padc MD.
attended Radio Materiel School on Treasure Island, San Francisco and
graduated as ETM2/c.
served for five war patrols on SS-228 USS Dnun, made ETMI/c.
taught electronics at Submarine School, New London CT.
organized and run successful mail order Elm Stamp Company at age 12.
sung in St. Pauls Church choir as boy soprano.
sung in Philharmonic Choir of Brooklyn.
sung in Erasmus High School Choral Club.
pioneered the 6-meter ham band as the first New York City station on
that band.
run a 6-meter beacon station for several years in cooperation with the
Radio Amateur Scientific Observations (RASO) program.
for years had a VHF/UHF station on Mt. Monadnock NH; regularly heard
for over 600 miles.
been Excutive Secretary of the Music Research Foundation, Madison
Avenue, N.Y.
worked for GE as a test engineer on Army radio equipment.
been an engineer at Airborne Instrument Laboratories in Mineola NY
developing radar equip.
tried marijuana in 1948 to see what it was like.
tried LSD in 1960 to see what that was like.
drunk with shipmates on liberty while in the Navy. Have seldom drunk
since.
tried smoking as a teenager, thought it was stupid. Ignored peer
pressure.
know the real dope on Amelia Earhart's last trip.
been convinced that NASA had to have faked all of the moon landings.
driven from Brooklyn NY to Peterborough NH (250 miles), averaging 100
mph one night - including a gas stop.
interesting friends such as Barry Goldwater, King Hussein, Steve Jobs,
Bill Gates, and Rod McKuen.
been convinced that with proper nutrition and avoiding poisons we ran
dependably live to over 100.
ridden Starlit Night, the Ringling Brothers top show horse.
a professorship of horsemanship and taught riding instructors.
a Hubbard Dianetic Auditor certificate and has processed over 100
patients, with some remarkable successes.
swum the three mile length of Coney Island many times.
investigated crop circles and a UFO hovering over a house in nearby
Francistown NH.
Other than all that I've been taking it easy and having a great time.

The name-calling Melvin Creep wrote:
From http://www.waynegreen.com
Who is Wayne Green? I'm a been there done that guy. I have......

There's a lot of genuine accomplishment there, but I think he ought to have
shortened it a bit...

tried marijuana in 1948 to see what it was like.
tried LSD in 1960 to see what that was like.
know the real dope on Amelia Earhart's last trip.
been convinced that NASA had to have faked all of the moon landings.
driven from Brooklyn NY to Peterborough NH (250 miles), averaging 100
mph one night - including a gas stop.
a Hubbard Dianetic Auditor certificate and has processed over 100
patients, with some remarkable successes.
investigated crop circles and a UFO hovering over a house in nearby
Francistown NH.

--
John Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

"Faith: not *wanting* to know what is true."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:
"Dave Holford" wrote in message
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Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:


Gernsback and Green have/had two things in common.
Both sold cleverly veiled bull**** which was *dressed up*
as valid future science to geeks, nerds and fools. Modern day
PT Barnum's who wrap their circus act in 5-point colored
paper. Noorey and Bell do the same thing by giving them
and their ilk an occasional microphone today. If they
were not in print media or broadcasting, they all most certanly
would be selling pre-owned automobiles someplace, or perhaps
partners with shady local politicians.


Aha, you've been reading his editorials, not his magazines.
That is the difference between entertainment and information.

Dave


I taped the show last night.
Guess what folks..!

BOTH Wayne and that GOLD PLATED KOOK David
were booted off of the show last night by Noorey!
Seems that Booth did not want to talk about *anything*
and all that Green seemed to want to do was shill for
Booth and his crap for sale. After wasting ONE HOUR of
airtime (..on 500+ AM stations and XM Sat Radio live)
and logging THOUSANDS of listener complain e-mails
that they were cheated, Noorey booted both these
jerks off the program!

BAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Just what these two carnival circuis
sideshow barkers needed! Booth made a
total schmuck of himself and Green sat there
grinning like a cheshire cat with a microphone
inserted up it's anus.....all on live AM Radio.

Here's the official release from C to C AM:

Meeting with Lucia?

Returning to the show, precognitive David Booth
was joined by author Wayne Green to ostensibly
discuss his recent meeting with Lucia, witness to
the Miracles of Fatima in 1917. Booth had been
invited to meet with Sister Lucia, presumably
because of the apocalyptic visions he had in
2003.

Booth said he met Sister Lucia, now 97, at a
Carmelite convent in Portugal and held a
private conversation with her for five minutes.
He would only reveal that he was told that
a "new star" that had been prophesized
about would begin to shine. Because Booth
had been booked on the show to discuss
his meeting with Lucia, and refused to elaborate
further upon it, the interview was cut short, and
the last 90 minutes of the program was
reserved for Open Lines.

-------------------------------------------------


The story doesn't end there. Apparently after booting Green and
Booth off the show, Noory had his producers check with the
Carmelites of the convent where the nun lives. They were told she
is very old and frail and has not had visitors for a long time!
Noory discussed all this on Friday nights show.

The whole thing was obviously a scam from the start. Green and
Booth had claimed that Sister Lucia had never heard of David
Booth or his apocalyptic dreams. They are pandering to the end of
the world crowd claiming that 97% of the people on Earth would
die this year.

Anyone up for a good tar and feathering?

S

In article ,
Steven B wrote:

Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:
"Dave Holford" wrote in message
...


Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:


Gernsback and Green have/had two things in common.
Both sold cleverly veiled bull**** which was *dressed up*
as valid future science to geeks, nerds and fools. Modern day
PT Barnum's who wrap their circus act in 5-point colored
paper. Noorey and Bell do the same thing by giving them
and their ilk an occasional microphone today. If they
were not in print media or broadcasting, they all most certanly
would be selling pre-owned automobiles someplace, or perhaps
partners with shady local politicians.


Aha, you've been reading his editorials, not his magazines.
That is the difference between entertainment and information.

Dave


I taped the show last night.
Guess what folks..!

BOTH Wayne and that GOLD PLATED KOOK David
were booted off of the show last night by Noorey!
Seems that Booth did not want to talk about *anything*
and all that Green seemed to want to do was shill for
Booth and his crap for sale. After wasting ONE HOUR of
airtime (..on 500+ AM stations and XM Sat Radio live)
and logging THOUSANDS of listener complain e-mails
that they were cheated, Noorey booted both these
jerks off the program!

BAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Just what these two carnival circuis
sideshow barkers needed! Booth made a
total schmuck of himself and Green sat there
grinning like a cheshire cat with a microphone
inserted up it's anus.....all on live AM Radio.

Here's the official release from C to C AM:

Meeting with Lucia?

Returning to the show, precognitive David Booth
was joined by author Wayne Green to ostensibly
discuss his recent meeting with Lucia, witness to
the Miracles of Fatima in 1917. Booth had been
invited to meet with Sister Lucia, presumably
because of the apocalyptic visions he had in
2003.

Booth said he met Sister Lucia, now 97, at a
Carmelite convent in Portugal and held a
private conversation with her for five minutes.
He would only reveal that he was told that
a "new star" that had been prophesized
about would begin to shine. Because Booth
had been booked on the show to discuss
his meeting with Lucia, and refused to elaborate
further upon it, the interview was cut short, and
the last 90 minutes of the program was
reserved for Open Lines.

-------------------------------------------------


The story doesn't end there. Apparently after booting Green and
Booth off the show, Noory had his producers check with the
Carmelites of the convent where the nun lives. They were told she
is very old and frail and has not had visitors for a long time!
Noory discussed all this on Friday nights show.

The whole thing was obviously a scam from the start. Green and
Booth had claimed that Sister Lucia had never heard of David
Booth or his apocalyptic dreams. They are pandering to the end of
the world crowd claiming that 97% of the people on Earth would
die this year.

Anyone up for a good tar and feathering?

S

My goodness! Snoory gets a spine!
My impression has been that since he took over he's been afraid to rock
the boat by thoroughly interviewing any guest, lest some of the
credulous listeners be lost. Meanwhile Art, appearing on the weekend and
with nothing to lose anymore, dared to actually call into question some
of the nonsense. Now it's Snoory too!
That show could really be fun if some of those money-grubbing liars who
appear on it were asked a few probing questions from time to time.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

"Leonard Martin" wrote in message
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In article ,
Steven B wrote:

Beerbarrel Boomer wrote:
"Dave Holford" wrote in message
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They are pandering to the end of
the world crowd claiming that 97% of the people on Earth would
die this year.

Anyone up for a good tar and feathering?

Leonard

Maybe we ought to wait until the end of the year and see if
there are enough people left to make up a proper mob.(G)

HWB
(Collum Puniceus)

"Leonard Martin" wrote in message
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[snip]

That show could really be fun if some of those money-grubbing liars who
appear on it were asked a few probing questions from time to time.

Leonard


Probing questions won't happen to entertaining guests, no matter how
fraudulent they may be. Booth got every break imaginable from Noory,
including Noory's frequent repetition of Booth's claims about his "O'hare
crash vision" and the interview with the Fatima witness. But Booth
continued to evade Noory's softball questions.

Uri Geller will be next Thursday night's guest. Let's see how long Noory's
integrity attack lasts.

Frank Dresser

Steven B wrote in message ...

The story doesn't end there. Apparently after booting Green and
Booth off the show, Noory had his producers check with the
Carmelites of the convent where the nun lives. They were told she
is very old and frail and has not had visitors for a long time!
Noory discussed all this on Friday nights show.

The whole thing was obviously a scam from the start. Green and
Booth had claimed that Sister Lucia had never heard of David
Booth or his apocalyptic dreams. They are pandering to the end of
the world crowd claiming that 97% of the people on Earth would
die this year.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Interesting but you need to elaborate and clarify. Did Noory flat out
state that Booth did not meet with Sister Lucia? Also, your sentence
"Green and Booth had claimed that Sister Lucia had never heard of
David Booth or his apocalyptic dreams" doesn't make sense in context.
If she never heard of him how could she request a visit from him? Why
would Booth make that claim? It would undermine his claim that the
meeting took place. Clarify please.
Melvin

Melvin Creep wrote:
Steven B wrote in message ...

The story doesn't end there. Apparently after booting Green and
Booth off the show, Noory had his producers check with the
Carmelites of the convent where the nun lives. They were told she
is very old and frail and has not had visitors for a long time!
Noory discussed all this on Friday nights show.

The whole thing was obviously a scam from the start. Green and
Booth had claimed that Sister Lucia had never heard of David
Booth or his apocalyptic dreams. They are pandering to the end of
the world crowd claiming that 97% of the people on Earth would
die this year.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Interesting but you need to elaborate and clarify. Did Noory flat out
state that Booth did not meet with Sister Lucia? Also, your sentence
"Green and Booth had claimed that Sister Lucia had never heard of
David Booth or his apocalyptic dreams" doesn't make sense in context.
If she never heard of him how could she request a visit from him? Why
would Booth make that claim? It would undermine his claim that the
meeting took place. Clarify please.
Melvin


Noory stated that the morning after the show his producers called
the convent and were told that Sister Lucia had not had any
visitors.

Probably what made him and the producers suspicious was the
strange claim that the last Fatima nun, Sister Lucia would call
Booth to come meet with her when she had never heard of booth or
his dreams 25 years ago of a plane crash. You are correct, that
makes no sense.

Noory threw plenty of softballs to Booth, but even with Noory's
help his story didn't make sense. Booth and Green had nothing to
say except promote book sales and they were booted and Noory said
that neither would be welcome on C2C again.

That's all I know since that's all Noory said on Friday's show.

S

John Miller wrote in message ...
The name-calling Melvin Creep wrote:
From http://www.waynegreen.com
Who is Wayne Green? I'm a been there done that guy. I have......

There's a lot of genuine accomplishment there, but I think he ought to have
shortened it a bit...

tried marijuana in 1948 to see what it was like.
tried LSD in 1960 to see what that was like.



David Booth was right about this prediction, which is right on his web
site at www.whatdoesitmean.com. It says, and I quote:
"Listen to David Booth and Wayne Green on Coast To Coast AM March
18th! (Note: This will be David Booth's last interview)" he's right.
it was his last interview!