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ac-acadaptor March 20th 04 10:49 PM

The Long awaited DE1102 (First Impression)
 
Well, my l-o-n-g awaited DE-1102 f-i-n-a-l-l-y came today. Even though he
has the best price going, waiting for a radio to arrive from Liypn is about
as much fun as watching paint dry! 12 days. Somehow, it seemed longer.

Maybe I wouldn't have been quite as disappointed had it come sooner. I
will admit that I only played with it for about 20 minutes, in the middle of
the day here in R.F. hell (San Jose) . There are plenty of signals
bouncing around these parts, just not anything you want to listen to.
Anyway, whoever it was that said this radio was comparable to a
DX-398/ATS-909 OBVIOUSLY doesn't own one. My 398, off the whip (and 398's
are known for not being very sensitive off the whip), picks up many more
stations than the DE1102 did with the external antenna plugged in!

I don't believe the radio is very user friendly, either. Had to keep
the manual handy. As stated by others, the SSB feature is easy enough to
work and is reasonably stable. I have been accused of bashing many radios.
(I own many) This one doesn't make for a good first impression, to me
anyway. To be fair, I will test it out later tonight when the noises of
the city die down and the signals come alive...

P.S. The BLUE light is pretty awesome...
J.H.



CAndersen (Kimba) March 21st 04 12:46 AM

"ac-acadaptor" wrote:

waiting for a radio to arrive from Liypn is about
as much fun as watching paint dry! 12 days.


Might've been a PO screwup. I got my BCL-2000 in 8 days, and I'm 3000
miles further away than you are.


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Newsgroup Lurker March 21st 04 02:23 AM

I got my 1102 from China in 6 days (including the weekend). Shipped to
Texas.


"CAndersen (Kimba)" wrote in message
...
"ac-acadaptor" wrote:

waiting for a radio to arrive from Liypn is about
as much fun as watching paint dry! 12 days.


Might've been a PO screwup. I got my BCL-2000 in 8 days, and I'm 3000
miles further away than you are.


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ac-acadaptor March 21st 04 04:13 AM

Actually, it came on the day he quoted. It just seemed like the timeframe
was long. I have gotten a PRO-60, PRO-43, and a few others in the last
couple weeks. They all arrived in 2-3 days. Granted, none of them came
from Hong Kong! I am VERY impatient...



"CAndersen (Kimba)" wrote in message
...
"ac-acadaptor" wrote:

waiting for a radio to arrive from Liypn is about
as much fun as watching paint dry! 12 days.


Might've been a PO screwup. I got my BCL-2000 in 8 days, and I'm 3000
miles further away than you are.


--
Reply address munged. You can figure it out.




ac-acadaptor March 21st 04 05:07 AM

Well, after having some time in the evening to play with the 1102, I have to
say:

It doesn't put my R-75 to shame, or my VR-5000. My Sat800, DX398, and
National-109 are still much better radios. I do have to agree with whoever
it was that said that for the price it can't be beat. It IS better on SSB
than my DX-402(ATS505) . I got it at the "Shack" for$50 on close-out but
expected more.

Anyway, I guess it's a keeper although I don't see what all the fuss was
about. I guess if money is tight and you don't want a used radio, the Degen
1102 IS an option.

"ac-acadaptor" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well, my l-o-n-g awaited DE-1102 f-i-n-a-l-l-y came today. Even though he
has the best price going, waiting for a radio to arrive from Liypn is

about
as much fun as watching paint dry! 12 days. Somehow, it seemed longer.

Maybe I wouldn't have been quite as disappointed had it come sooner.

I
will admit that I only played with it for about 20 minutes, in the middle

of
the day here in R.F. hell (San Jose) . There are plenty of signals
bouncing around these parts, just not anything you want to listen to.
Anyway, whoever it was that said this radio was comparable to a
DX-398/ATS-909 OBVIOUSLY doesn't own one. My 398, off the whip (and 398's
are known for not being very sensitive off the whip), picks up many more
stations than the DE1102 did with the external antenna plugged in!

I don't believe the radio is very user friendly, either. Had to keep
the manual handy. As stated by others, the SSB feature is easy enough to
work and is reasonably stable. I have been accused of bashing many

radios.
(I own many) This one doesn't make for a good first impression, to me
anyway. To be fair, I will test it out later tonight when the noises of
the city die down and the signals come alive...

P.S. The BLUE light is pretty awesome...
J.H.





Overwelmed by Stupidity March 21st 04 07:47 AM

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 05:07:18 GMT, "ac-acadaptor"
wrote:

Well, after having some time in the evening to play with the 1102, I have to
say:

It doesn't put my R-75 to shame, or my VR-5000. My Sat800, DX398, and
National-109 are still much better radios. I do have to agree with whoever
it was that said that for the price it can't be beat. It IS better on SSB
than my DX-402(ATS505) . I got it at the "Shack" for$50 on close-out but
expected more.

Anyway, I guess it's a keeper although I don't see what all the fuss was
about. I guess if money is tight and you don't want a used radio, the Degen
1102 IS an option.

"ac-acadaptor" wrote in message
ink.net...
Well, my l-o-n-g awaited DE-1102 f-i-n-a-l-l-y came today. Even though he
has the best price going, waiting for a radio to arrive from Liypn is

about
as much fun as watching paint dry! 12 days. Somehow, it seemed longer.

Maybe I wouldn't have been quite as disappointed had it come sooner.

I
will admit that I only played with it for about 20 minutes, in the middle

of
the day here in R.F. hell (San Jose) . There are plenty of signals
bouncing around these parts, just not anything you want to listen to.
Anyway, whoever it was that said this radio was comparable to a
DX-398/ATS-909 OBVIOUSLY doesn't own one. My 398, off the whip (and 398's
are known for not being very sensitive off the whip), picks up many more
stations than the DE1102 did with the external antenna plugged in!

I don't believe the radio is very user friendly, either. Had to keep
the manual handy. As stated by others, the SSB feature is easy enough to
work and is reasonably stable. I have been accused of bashing many

radios.
(I own many) This one doesn't make for a good first impression, to me
anyway. To be fair, I will test it out later tonight when the noises of
the city die down and the signals come alive...

P.S. The BLUE light is pretty awesome...
J.H.



Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A $75 radio does not outperform a radio costing 10 or 20 times as
much. I thought for sure we could all expect it to perform better than
a Drake R8. After all, you did spend $75 on it.

ac-acadaptor March 21st 04 03:21 PM

Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A $75 radio does not outperform a radio costing 10 or 20 times as
much. I thought for sure we could all expect it to perform better than
a Drake R8. After all, you did spend $75 on it.




I know it's hard to believe. I am as shocked and appalled as you are!



Mike W March 21st 04 04:41 PM

Hey, may as well buy a cheap HF receiver. After listening to Art Bell's
show last night about broadband over Power lines. If that takes hold across
the country, you may as well use your Drake R8b, or Degen 1102 as a
paperweight. The link illustrating BPL interference =
http://www.coasttocoastam.com of a mobile test using an HF receiver is
pretty compelling. Check it out.



"ac-acadaptor" wrote in message
k.net...
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A $75 radio does not outperform a radio costing 10 or 20 times as
much. I thought for sure we could all expect it to perform better than
a Drake R8. After all, you did spend $75 on it.




I know it's hard to believe. I am as shocked and appalled as you are!





GO BEARCATS March 22nd 04 10:47 AM

Anyway, whoever it was that said this radio was comparable to a
DX-398/ATS-909 OBVIOUSLY doesn't own one. My 398, off the whip (and 398's
are known for not being very sensitive off the whip), picks up many more
stations than the DE1102 did with the external antenna plugged in!


Whew!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, I was about ready to box up all my radios for that
DX machine that picks up 95% of what a $5,000 receiver does---what Corbin
said.

Of course I KNEW it wasn't true and I'm glad that someone with some common
sense purchased one and tested them.

Thanks for clearing up the mess that some in here start. There really should
be a FAQ in here so people aren't *taken* by posts like Corbin or others.

I'm not trying to be super hard on you Corbin, but your comments were just
plain silly (notice I didn't say stupid.)

**back to putting my boxes away. ;-)

~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~
*****GO BEARCATS*****
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wane Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/RhapsodyMultiBand
DX100/394/398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*


Alan J Giddings March 22nd 04 04:45 PM

I don't thinkl the Corbin fella was saying anyone should pack up their
stuff and buy a Degen. He was just pointing out (in a round about
way) that for many SW broadcast listeners that a cheap Degen 1102 will
do the job. In my case, that's pretty true although I admit it's not
the best receiver in my collection. Let's face it, SOME sw listeners
are more into the techno stuff than listening to the broadcasts.
SWavers are a bit like car drivers, they get p**sed off when someone
has a faster/better car than themselves but being a motorcyclist I
don't suffer from that little bug. All power to the cheapo radio that
brings in the world...
Regards,
Alan
(GO BEARCATS) wrote in message ...
Anyway, whoever it was that said this radio was comparable to a
DX-398/ATS-909 OBVIOUSLY doesn't own one. My 398, off the whip (and 398's
are known for not being very sensitive off the whip), picks up many more
stations than the DE1102 did with the external antenna plugged in!


Whew!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, I was about ready to box up all my radios for that
DX machine that picks up 95% of what a $5,000 receiver does---what Corbin
said.

Of course I KNEW it wasn't true and I'm glad that someone with some common
sense purchased one and tested them.

Thanks for clearing up the mess that some in here start. There really should
be a FAQ in here so people aren't *taken* by posts like Corbin or others.

I'm not trying to be super hard on you Corbin, but your comments were just
plain silly (notice I didn't say stupid.)

**back to putting my boxes away. ;-)

~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~
*****GO BEARCATS*****
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wane Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/RhapsodyMultiBand
DX100/394/398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*



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