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Michael Bryant wrote:

I just can't understand why Republicans find education, educators and culture
to be so subversive.

We find it subversive when we think of so-called educators such as yourself trying
to inculcate your bull scree into the minds of the children of the U.S.A.

First off, Michael, if you don't see liberal bias in NPR, you're being
intellectually dishonest, because I know you're smart enough to recognize
it.

NPR was a great idea, and government grants were needed to get it off the
ground. Now, it can be heard pretty much anywhere in the USA.

Liberal bias at NPR springs from basically the same source you'll always see
from federal workers. Liberals like to grow government, and from the
federal worker (and federal funding) point of view, that's "good for the
company business." So, they cozy up to the liberal point-of-view.

However, as a conservative, I don't like my tax dollars supporting something
that I don't agree with. I have no problem with them being on the air -- I
just don't want to get the bill.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has been given some very notable
donations in the past couple of years, and the need for feeding at the
public trough has passed. One such donation was more than their entire
budget for a few years.

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
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From: N8KDV

You dispute the fact that many educators are leftists? Get your head out
of
your
fat ass boy!

OK, I see. To you it's obvious that many educators are "leftists." Then
you
probably agree with the Secretary of Education branding the National
Education
Association as "terrorists," right, Steve?

"Tell the lie big, tell it enough times, and it becomes the truth." Do you
know
who said that, Steve?

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From: (RHF)

If you are going to Question "The Facts" MWB.
Then 'present' "The Facts" in their Entirety.

Maybe you should present YOUR facts in entirety. What percentage of NPR funding
comes from the government, RHF?

http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
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Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
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NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/

Duh. I was talking about Clear Channel AM stations.
And you provide a statistic that lumps their AM & FM content together.

MWB - The very simple and honest 'fact' is that:

The Spoken Word - Is The Spoken Word [.]

Be It Spoken On AM Radio and/or FM Radio.
[ Or that matter Shortwave Radio. ]

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]

MWB - If We are ONLY 'taking' about "Clear Channel's AM Talk Radio"

Out of about 13,500 Total Radio Stations:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/totals/bt031231.html

AM RADIO = 4794
FM RADIO = 6217
FM EDUCATIONAL = 2552 {NPR&PRI = Liberal Left Propaganda ~ 19%}
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TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.
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I know you are a better arguer than this.
Please try harder.

MWB - Just Trying To Make It Easy Enought . . .
So You Can Still Stay In The Game :o)

Just the facts.

MWB - The Facts Speak For Themselves ~ RHF
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Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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From: (RHF)

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
.

No, you don't understand, RHF. You think you do, but you don't. And you
continue to ignore the facts. The URLs I provided showed that only 2% of NPR
funding comes from the government and that it's a very small fraction of
"Billions of Dollars." You didn't even read them, did you?

Now, you make it sound that Clear Channel is just a shining example of
effective free enterprise capitalism. Hardly. Check out the sites for the real
facts of how Clear Channel's patronage and donations to Bush have been turned
into special advantages:

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

Now, take the time to read them.

.

Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

You didn't even attempt to point out which current NPR stories are part of the
leftist propaganda machine.

MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
.

Nope. I was mocking you calling anyone on the other side of the political
spectrum bigoted.

NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/

Yes, 50% of Clear Channel stations are FM. Most FM stations above the
educational basement of the FM band are music stations.

The vast majority of CC's AM channels are consertive talk stations. That's what
I claimed in the first place.

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]

Thanks for repeating that visual poetry. I guess someone could've missed it as
many times as you've repeated it.

TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.

Your assumption is that ALL stations not owned by Clear Channel are, by
default, part of the liberal-left. Can you possibly back that up with any
additional documentation?

RHF, you're making it too easy.

Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Stinger wrote:

First off, Michael, if you don't see liberal bias in NPR, you're being
intellectually dishonest, because I know you're smart enough to recognize
it.

NPR was a great idea, and government grants were needed to get it off the
ground. Now, it can be heard pretty much anywhere in the USA.

Liberal bias at NPR springs from basically the same source you'll always see
from federal workers. Liberals like to grow government, and from the
federal worker (and federal funding) point of view, that's "good for the
company business." So, they cozy up to the liberal point-of-view.

However, as a conservative, I don't like my tax dollars supporting something
that I don't agree with. I have no problem with them being on the air -- I
just don't want to get the bill.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has been given some very notable
donations in the past couple of years, and the need for feeding at the
public trough has passed. One such donation was more than their entire
budget for a few years.

How about listening to NPR for at least a week while you take some notes
on the stories you think are examples of a liberal point of view. Then
we'll have something tangible to discuss on the subject of NPR and
liberalism. Otherwise it's just one more opinion on NPR without
documentation.

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From: (RHF)

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
.

The Tax Advantages of these "Foundations" ARE Corporate America.

The Systems of Power and Control ARE the Means of Media Manipulation.
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No, you don't understand, RHF. You think you do, but you don't.
And you continue to ignore the facts.

Well 'we' all know what sanitized information is published by the
Government and 'quasi' government entities like NPR, PRI and PBS.
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The URLs I provided showed that only 2% of NPR funding comes
from the government and that it's a very small fraction of
"Billions of Dollars." You didn't even read them, did you?

"Such grants are awarded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting,
the National Science Foundation, and the National Endowments
for the Arts and the Humanities, and typically represent only
2% of total."

And these are more 'quasi' government entities:
THE Corporation for Public Broadcasting
THE National Science Foundation
THE National Endowments for the Arts and the Humanities

The "Ying and Yang" of [The Secret] Government.
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Now, you make it sound that Clear Channel is just a
shining example of effective free enterprise capitalism.

MWB - Did I make that 'claim' NO !

Hardly. Check out the sites for the real facts of how
Clear Channel's patronage and donations to Bush have
been turned into special advantages:

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

MWB - I would not take the time to read an EXTREAMIST Neo-Nazi,
White Supremist, or Islam-O-Fascist Website.

So then why would I want to read an Equally Absurb Ultra-Liberal
Left-Wing website like you have CITED as EVIDENCE.

* One Thing is Crystal Clear:
Clear Channel is a Subsidiary of Bush, Inc
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

* Here are the 'connections' between CLEAR CHANNEL and
the BUSH FAMILY.
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html
NOTE: Take Back The Media is a cooperative project by 'progressive'
American Citizens. [TRANSLATION: 'progressive' = Ultra-Liberal]

MWB - When you Cite websites like these as "Proof". I have to
start questioning either your Academic Qualifications or your
Educational Integrity for the presentation of an Un-Biased and
an Objective View Point for an Honest Discussion by Rational
People of Reasonable Intelligence.
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Now, take the time to read them.

MWB - I Shall Decline You Offer.

FWIW: When I Listen to Coast-to-Coast AM, Dreamland and other programs.
I do so for their Entertainment Value; and thus can maintain
my Objectivity while seeking out some kernel-of-truth or small
basis-of-fact.

MWB - Are You Loosing? Have You Lost? - Your Objectivity?
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Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

You didn't even attempt to point out which current NPR stories are part of the
leftist propaganda machine.

MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
.

Nope. I was mocking you calling anyone on the other side of the political
spectrum bigoted.

I will repeat something that is often said:
Good People Can Disagree on Important Issues…
- A Discussion Will Be Had
- A Decision Will Be Made
and these Good People will continue
to work together for their common good.

The Problem with the Liberal Left is that they do not see
the Conservative Right as Good People. The Liberal Left has
a major precetual problem in that they view the Conservative
Right as both Bad and Evil; which translates into the HATE of
the Convervative Right by the Liberal Left. Yes "HATE" does
exist in America Today and it is the Single Minded HATE of the
Liberal Left for the Conservative Right.

There is no clearer 'proof' of this HATE by the Liberal Left
for the Conservative Right; then John 'f' Kerry's "Open Mic"
Comments that were recently broadcast and published.
http://news.bostonherald.com/nationa...articleid=1347.

NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/

Yes, 50% of Clear Channel stations are FM. Most FM stations above the
educational basement of the FM band are music stations.

The vast majority of CC's AM channels are consertive talk stations. That's what
I claimed in the first place.

MWB - But you paint a picture of Clear Channel as being the
Dominant Voice (50%+) of the Total AM Radios Stations.
However a simple and very honest look at the numbers clearly shows
that at best using 100% of its AM Radio Stations Clear Channel
could only add up to about 5% maximum.

MWB - No one disputes that market forces produce a diversity of
content in the area of musically entertainment that is offered
on both AM and FM Radio.

MWB - You or I may not like the majority of what is being played.
But between the Stations, Advertisers and the Listeners the Market
Dynamics Decide on what gets played on the Air.

MWB - Then Why Does the Liberal-Left 'question' these same
Marketing Dynamics when it comes to "AM" Talk Radio. 'ibtm'
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MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]

Thanks for repeating that visual poetry. I guess someone
could've missed it as many times as you've repeated it.

Every Run a Stop Sign . . .
after You Know, That You Know, That You Saw It :o)
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TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.

Your assumption is that ALL stations not owned by Clear Channel are, by
default, part of the liberal-left. Can you possibly back that up with any
additional documentation?

MWB - Did I Say That - NOT !

One Understand for the FCC Data that: FM EDUCATIONAL = 2552
out of a TOTAL = 13563 {NPR&PRI = Liberal Propaganda ~ 19%}

MWB - Lets Stick To The Facts :o)
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RHF, you're making it too easy.

MWB - Your Life Is Always 'easier' When You 'ENJOY" What You Do ;-)

fir... RHF
= For I Remain... RHF [.]
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Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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"The Reverend Jesse Jackson" now on Clear Channel Radio

"Keep Hope Alive with the Rev. Jesse Jackson,"

Has the Rev. Jesse Jackson scrummed to the Forces of the Dark-Side ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/31/arts/31CLEA.html
http://sanantonio.bizjournals.com/sa...9/daily19.html
http://www.forbes.com/business/newsw...tr1319042.html

Has Clear Channel 'seen' the Light ?

Can Good and Evil 'exist' Side-by-Side ?

Mr. Jackson is no stranger to radio and television of course.
Not only has he been interviewed numerous times, but he was
also the host of a talk show, "Both Sides With Jesse Jackson,"
for about decade on CNN.

John Hogan, the president and chief executive of Clear Channel
Radio, said the company was attracted by Mr. Jackson's "message,
his prominence, his importance and his ability to relate to people."

MWB - The Times... They Are A Changing - Keep Hope Alive !

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That would go good with your anti-white anti-straight anti-normal
liberal left crap stations and programs on AM.

I like free speech, it's wonderful.

You like living in a fantasy of your own creation.

MWB - Are 'we' Looking In A Mirror MWB.
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There is no such thing as liberal programs left on US AM mediumwave.

MWB - NO such thing as a "Liberal Program" on USofA AM/MW Radio.

* So then what am I hearing from KGO AM 810 kHz ? ? ? ? ?
KGO-810-AM= http://www.kgoam810.com/

* Bernie Ward @ Monday - Friday: 10:00 PM - 1:00 AM
BW= http://www.kgoam810.com/complexshowdj.asp?DJID=3284

* Ray Taliaferro @ Monday - Friday: 1:00 AM - 5:00 AM
RT= http://www.kgoam810.com/complexshowdj.asp?DJID=3450

* Liberal Talk Radio Explodes on to Clear Channel Programming.
http://www.opednews.com/kall0104_har...earchannel.htm
Thom Hartmann is taking talk radio by storm.

* Talking Back To Talk Radio - Fairness, Democracy, and Profits
http://www.opednews.com/hartmann0104...talk_radio.htm
- by Thom Hartmann
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They're all owned by Clear Channel....

MWB - ALL 'owned' by "Clear Channel" - NOT !

John Hogan, president of 1,200-station Clear Channel Radio, told
members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/s...792695,00.html
NOTE: Many of Clear Channels 1200 Radio Stations are on the FM Band.

This is out of about 13,500 Total Radio Stations:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/totals/bt031231.html
AM RADIO = 4794
FM RADIO = 6217
FM EDUCATIONAL = 2552 {NPR = Liberal Propaganda ~ 19%}
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TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 1200 ~ 9%)

WHO OWNS WHAT - Clear Channel Communications
http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/clearchannel.asp
presented by the "Columbia Journalism Review"

NOTE: More than 110 Million AM Radio Listeners choose
Clear Channel Radio programming each week.

How Clear Channel became the Biggest
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/200...r_channel.html

"How Come One Company Owns All The Radio Stations?"
http://radio.about.com/library/weekly/aa020403a.htm
A Simple Explanation To What Happened To Local Radio Ownership
Clear Channel doesn't own them all (only about 1200 or so). There are
other companies (not as big) which own stations, too, like: Cumulus,
Infinity, Jefferson Pilot, Susquehanna, etc. But, sometimes it FEELS
like "one guy" owns them all.
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Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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Just the Facts ~ RHF

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