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the captain March 24th 04 08:46 PM

modified DX-394
 
someone told me that they really like their modified DX-394. can other
people with a modified one tell me what they think of it ? I might
want to buy one.

WG March 24th 04 09:06 PM

One word, JUNK

"the captain" wrote in message
om...
someone told me that they really like their modified DX-394. can other
people with a modified one tell me what they think of it ? I might
want to buy one.




ka6uup March 24th 04 10:38 PM

Don't believe "WG"!
Join the RadioShack dx394 Group at Yahoo Groups and find out the truth.
Chuck


the captain wrote:

someone told me that they really like their modified DX-394. can other
people with a modified one tell me what they think of it ? I might
want to buy one.



gil March 25th 04 01:45 AM

Not too bad on AM (with mods and after market filter) very wide on SSB.

gil

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the captain wrote in message
om...
someone told me that they really like their modified DX-394. can other
people with a modified one tell me what they think of it ? I might
want to buy one.




Dale Parfitt March 25th 04 03:39 AM


"the captain" wrote in message
om...
someone told me that they really like their modified DX-394. can other
people with a modified one tell me what they think of it ? I might
want to buy one.

I've owned the B model- very disappointing performance. Synthesizer chuffs,
filters are wide with poor skirts.
Maybe I'm just spoiled.

Dale W4OP



the captain March 25th 04 03:55 AM

your answer is useless for me.

you need to be much more specific.

please do not reply with useless answers.




"WG" wrote in message news:TLm8c.6883$Ct5.4014@edtnps89...
One word, JUNK

"the captain" wrote in message
om...
someone told me that they really like their modified DX-394. can other
people with a modified one tell me what they think of it ? I might
want to buy one.


WG March 25th 04 10:36 AM

You can get much better radios for less money and not have to do any
modifications to them. the DX-394 has a bad drift on SSB and is a basic
brick compared to other radios that I have had like my old Drake SSR-1 or my
Yeasu FRG-7. My DX-394 is a better radio then my DX-300 was and much better
then the old DX-440. I could go on and on but this went around and around
about 2 weeks ago. Stick with the professional grade communications
receivers from people like Kenwood, Icom, Drake and Yeasu. The ones of the
same aria as the 394 are about the same price at Ham Swap Meets with better
features and one hell of a lot better sensitive.

"the captain" wrote in message
om...
your answer is useless for me.

you need to be much more specific.

please do not reply with useless answers.




"WG" wrote in message

news:TLm8c.6883$Ct5.4014@edtnps89...
One word, JUNK

"the captain" wrote in message
om...
someone told me that they really like their modified DX-394. can other
people with a modified one tell me what they think of it ? I might
want to buy one.




Richard Cranium March 26th 04 12:40 AM

ka6uup wrote in message ...
Don't believe "WG"!
Join the RadioShack dx394 Group at Yahoo Groups and find out the truth.
Chuck


He was told the truth: The DX394 is a poor performer. Better radios
can be had for about the same money, so why should he settle for an
entry-level piece of junk?

I'd rather have a DX398 portable than the DX394. Even with all the
mods I could find it was still a poor radio. The memory scheme is
completely stupid, there is awful IF bleed-through, it has lousy
selectivity without replacement filters, and the audio is only
tolerable.

If the truth will save him some grief and money, why would you tell
him otherwise?

Tom Holden March 26th 04 04:06 AM

Comparisons are often invidious. The SSR-1 was made 20 years before the
DX-394. Its published specs suggest it had superior selectivity, similar
sensitivity, but had poorer tuning accuracy, resolution, image and IF
suppression compared to the stock DX-394. The SSR-1 had no tuning memories;
the DX-394 has 160 plus remembers the last frequency tuned on every one of
16 bands and is much easier to tune - the pre-selector auto tracks. A modded
DX-394 can have improved selectivity.

The FRG-7 is also almost 20 years before the DX-394's time. Interestingly,
it, too, was the subject of modifications similar to some performed on the
DX-394 - AGC, selectivity and noise limiter being common. Had
rec.radio.shortwave been around then, I'm sure it would have had many more.
The published specs are skimpy but the stock DX-394 matches on selectivity
and betters it by 6dB in sensitivity. FRG-7 tuning is cumbersome and has no
memories. There is a 194 member FRG-7 user group on Yahoo vs a nearly 600
member DX-394 group.

The DX-394 is a very stable, microprocessor controlled radio, exhibiting
negligible drift from turn-on. If WG's has a bad drift, then it's
exceptional. However, there have been reports of ment that adversely affects
SSB/CW operation - whether factory or user misalignment or aging has caused
it remains a mystery. I have 3 of them; one was off by 1kHz but was usable -
there was a decidedly different spectral distribution for USB vs LSB speech.

If you can afford a higher class radio go for it. If you can't, you'll get a
great bang for your buck from a DX-394. For more info about the DX-394 and
the myriad mods that can be done to it, join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RADIOSHACKDX394/.

Tom

WG wrote:
You can get much better radios for less money and not
have to do any modifications to them. the DX-394 has a
bad drift on SSB and is a basic brick compared to other
radios that I have had like my old Drake SSR-1 or my
Yeasu FRG-7. My DX-394 is a better radio then my DX-300
was and much better then the old DX-440. I could go on
and on but this went around and around about 2 weeks ago.
Stick with the professional grade communications
receivers from people like Kenwood, Icom, Drake and
Yeasu. The ones of the same aria as the 394 are about the
same price at Ham Swap Meets with better features and one
hell of a lot better sensitive.

"the captain" wrote in message
om...
your answer is useless for me.

you need to be much more specific.

please do not reply with useless answers.




"WG" wrote in message

news:TLm8c.6883$Ct5.4014@edtnps89...
One word, JUNK

"the captain" wrote in message
om...
someone told me that they really like their modified
DX-394. can other people with a modified one tell me
what they think of it ? I might want to buy one.




Mark S. Holden March 26th 04 01:34 PM

Tom Holden wrote:
Comparisons are often invidious. The SSR-1 was made 20 years before the
DX-394. Its published specs suggest it had superior selectivity, similar
sensitivity, but had poorer tuning accuracy, resolution, image and IF
suppression compared to the stock DX-394. The SSR-1 had no tuning memories;
the DX-394 has 160 plus remembers the last frequency tuned on every one of
16 bands and is much easier to tune - the pre-selector auto tracks. A modded
DX-394 can have improved selectivity.

The FRG-7 is also almost 20 years before the DX-394's time. Interestingly,
it, too, was the subject of modifications similar to some performed on the
DX-394 - AGC, selectivity and noise limiter being common. Had
rec.radio.shortwave been around then, I'm sure it would have had many more.
The published specs are skimpy but the stock DX-394 matches on selectivity
and betters it by 6dB in sensitivity. FRG-7 tuning is cumbersome and has no
memories. There is a 194 member FRG-7 user group on Yahoo vs a nearly 600
member DX-394 group.

The DX-394 is a very stable, microprocessor controlled radio, exhibiting
negligible drift from turn-on. If WG's has a bad drift, then it's
exceptional. However, there have been reports of ment that adversely affects
SSB/CW operation - whether factory or user misalignment or aging has caused
it remains a mystery. I have 3 of them; one was off by 1kHz but was usable -
there was a decidedly different spectral distribution for USB vs LSB speech.

If you can afford a higher class radio go for it. If you can't, you'll get a
great bang for your buck from a DX-394. For more info about the DX-394 and
the myriad mods that can be done to it, join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RADIOSHACKDX394/.

Tom


Tom - great last name!

I think the point is the DX-394 tends to be getting expensive on ebay.

I've seen some dx-394's bring $250.

Quite a few close in the general range of $200.

Personal tastes vary, but I think a used ten-tec rx-320 offers more bang
for the buck in the $200-$225 range.




Tom Holden March 26th 04 03:48 PM

Mark S. Holden wrote:
Tom Holden wrote:
Comparisons are often invidious. The SSR-1 was made 20
years before the DX-394. Its published specs suggest it

[snip]

Tom - great last name!

I think the point is the DX-394 tends to be getting
expensive on ebay.

I've seen some dx-394's bring $250.

Quite a few close in the general range of $200.

Personal tastes vary, but I think a used ten-tec rx-320
offers more bang for the buck in the $200-$225 range.


Mark - your surname is great, too!

There's not one ten-tec RX-320 currently FA on eBay while there are
currently 7 DX-394's, and recently, 11! Closing prices for DX-394's have
ranged from $96-$275, averaging $164, over the last five months. The RX-320
requires a computer to run it; the DX-394 is complete. Sherwood Engineering
rates the Drake R-4C as one of the best receivers of all time. I have a
R-4B.

73, Tom



the captain March 26th 04 06:20 PM

did you upgrade the internal speaker or use a good external one for
the audio ?

I asked about a modified one and you complain that the selectivity is
bad without a replacement.


you are not giving me the information I need,

Can't anyone out there give good useful information.

I asked about a PROPERLY modified 394, I don't care if the stock unit
is no good. the stock R-5000 IS NO GOOD according to Ranier Liechte
and Larry Magne yet people on this group praise the radio. it needs to
have the upgraded AM filter.

I had a DX-398, did not like it at all, it has no sensitivity and
sounds cheesy.



I'd rather have a DX398 portable than the DX394. Even with all the
mods I could find it was still a poor radio. The memory scheme is
completely stupid, there is awful IF bleed-through, it has lousy
selectivity without replacement filters, and the audio is only
tolerable.


Tom Holden March 26th 04 09:33 PM

the captain wrote:
did you upgrade the internal speaker or use a good
external one for the audio ?


The sound from the stock speaker can be improved by the bass mod, the hum
mod, and the ANL defeat mod. Recently Kiwa brought out a kit of parts to do
the bass and ANL defeat mods plus replace several polarised electrolytic
caps with non-polarised for a further claimed improvement in clarity. If
that's not good enough, the external speaker is an easy upgrade but if you
want to keep it all in the box, then an internal speaker upgrade is the only
option. Personally, I would rather have the better speaker aimed at me -
hence external. If you really want to get fancy, plug the Tape Out into a
hi-fi system.


I asked about a modified one and you complain that the
selectivity is bad without a replacement.


The stock AM filter sounds very nice with strong signals in the clear. The
switchable selectivity mod allows you to switch in the stock SSB filter for
use with AM for better discrimination against interference with a sacrifice
of audio high frequencies.


you are not giving me the information I need,

Can't anyone out there give good useful information.


I think you have been given some good responses. For more information on the
DX-394, join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RADIOSHACKDX394/.


I asked about a PROPERLY modified 394, I don't care if
the stock unit is no good. the stock R-5000 IS NO GOOD
according to Ranier Liechte and Larry Magne yet people on
this group praise the radio. it needs to have the
upgraded AM filter.

I had a DX-398, did not like it at all, it has no
sensitivity and sounds cheesy.


I have not had a DX-398 and cannot compare first hand but one's a portable
and the other is a tabletop radio - I would think the intended use would be
the determining factor.



I'd rather have a DX398 portable than the DX394. Even
with all the mods I could find it was still a poor
radio. The memory scheme is completely stupid, there is
awful IF bleed-through, it has lousy selectivity without
replacement filters, and the audio is only tolerable.




starman March 27th 04 04:34 AM

Tom Holden wrote:

Sherwood Engineering rates the Drake R-4C as one of the best receivers of all time. I have a R-4B.


Have you ever used the FS4 synthesizer with your R-4B? I saw some plans
for building a homebrew version of the FS4 but I can't find the website
anymore.


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Tom Holden March 28th 04 03:27 AM

starman wrote:
Tom Holden wrote:

Sherwood Engineering rates the Drake R-4C as one of the
best receivers of all time. I have a R-4B.


Have you ever used the FS4 synthesizer with your R-4B? I
saw some plans for building a homebrew version of the FS4
but I can't find the website anymore.

Nope.



Tom Holden March 28th 04 04:38 AM

starman wrote:
Tom Holden wrote:

Sherwood Engineering rates the Drake R-4C as one of the
best receivers of all time. I have a R-4B.


Have you ever used the FS4 synthesizer with your R-4B? I
saw some plans for building a homebrew version of the FS4
but I can't find the website anymore.


Found these references to articles in Ham Radio - don't know if it's
homebrew or a review of the FS-4:
Aug-72 6 Frequency Synthesizer for the Drake R-4 W6NBI
Sep-74 74 Frequency Synthesizer for the Drake R-4 (mod. letter) NA

And this link to a digital read-out - the RAC Digital Dial:
http://www.wb4hfn.com/DrakeArticles/...talDial-01.htm still
available from http://www.radioadv.com/ham_radio_eq.../FreqMC/A2.htm

And a great collection farther up the tree at:
http://www.wb4hfn.com/DrakeHomePage.htm

A competing version of the RAC Digital Dial:
http://www.aade.com/dfd1.htm

Photo, description & schematic of the FS-4:
http://www.dproducts.be/drake_Museum/fs-4.htm
I see this is a substitute for the band-setting crystals so that you can
tune in 500kHz bands from 1.5MHz to 30 MHz instead of being rock-bound to
the ham bands plus a few others. It should be fairly easy to make something
that outputs at 500kHz steps from 12.6MHz to 40.6MHz with good phase noise.
But somebody else better design it!

Tom



starman March 28th 04 10:26 AM

Tom Holden wrote:

starman wrote:
Tom Holden wrote:

Sherwood Engineering rates the Drake R-4C as one of the
best receivers of all time. I have a R-4B.


Have you ever used the FS4 synthesizer with your R-4B? I
saw some plans for building a homebrew version of the FS4
but I can't find the website anymore.


Found these references to articles in Ham Radio - don't know if it's
homebrew or a review of the FS-4:
Aug-72 6 Frequency Synthesizer for the Drake R-4 W6NBI
Sep-74 74 Frequency Synthesizer for the Drake R-4 (mod. letter) NA

And this link to a digital read-out - the RAC Digital Dial:
http://www.wb4hfn.com/DrakeArticles/...talDial-01.htm still
available from http://www.radioadv.com/ham_radio_eq.../FreqMC/A2.htm

And a great collection farther up the tree at:
http://www.wb4hfn.com/DrakeHomePage.htm

A competing version of the RAC Digital Dial:
http://www.aade.com/dfd1.htm

Photo, description & schematic of the FS-4:
http://www.dproducts.be/drake_Museum/fs-4.htm
I see this is a substitute for the band-setting crystals so that you can
tune in 500kHz bands from 1.5MHz to 30 MHz instead of being rock-bound to
the ham bands plus a few others. It should be fairly easy to make something
that outputs at 500kHz steps from 12.6MHz to 40.6MHz with good phase noise.
But somebody else better design it!


Thanks Tom.


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