Roger Wilco, Over and Out
 

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

Bill wrote:

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

Wilco is an abbreviation for Will Comply.

Bill wrote:

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a
term from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

You've actually got four terms there. Probably, as you point out, used more
in the movies than actual practice.

"Over and out" is not correct, although widely used. Should only be one or
the other, depending upon whether you're finished merely with the
transmission or the entire exchange.

"Wilco (will comply) is a little redundant, coming after "Roger." Obsolete,
to the best of my knowledge (which is getting rustier by the day).
--
John Miller, Vietnam-era radio listener for the USN
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

Succumb to natural tendencies. Be hateful and boring.

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N8KDV wrote:

Bill wrote:

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a
term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

Wilco is an abbreviation for Will Comply.

In telegraphy, "R" was/is a quick response meaning "received."
My understanding has been that "Roger" was the carryover phone
version of "R".
--
Chuck Reti WV8A
Detroit MI

Bill wrote:

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?


Bill N8KDV pointed out the meaning of the term WILCO. The term ROGER
(taken from previous phonetic alphabets and as mentioned prior to that
from morse and indeed semaphore) is used to signify that you've received
the message correctly, nothing more. The 2 terms OVER and OUT, almost
always misused in any movie, are 2 individual terms with different
meanings...OVER signifies to the station just finishing transmitting
that it is expecting a reply...OUT signifies that the station finishing
transmitting is finished but not expecting any further reply. Any real
radio operator/officer knows better than to say OVER and OUT. These are
of course voice procedure terms, standardized over decades of trial and
error to have a consistent sound in many languages as are the ITU
phonetic alphabet in worldwide use (except by some U.S. law enforcement
agencies I'm led to believe).

"N8KDV" wrote in message
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Bill wrote:

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a
term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

Wilco is an abbreviation for Will Comply.



Roger = all copied correctly
Over = your turn
Out = I'm going off the air (no longer listening)

So "over and out" is incorrect procedure as that means "your turn but I'm
not listening".

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 00:47:18 GMT, "G. Skiffington"
wrote:

Bill wrote:

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?


Bill N8KDV pointed out the meaning of the term WILCO. The term ROGER
(taken from previous phonetic alphabets and as mentioned prior to that
from morse and indeed semaphore) is used to signify that you've received
the message correctly, nothing more. The 2 terms OVER and OUT, almost
always misused in any movie, are 2 individual terms with different
meanings...OVER signifies to the station just finishing transmitting
that it is expecting a reply...OUT signifies that the station finishing
transmitting is finished but not expecting any further reply. Any real
radio operator/officer knows better than to say OVER and OUT. These are
of course voice procedure terms, standardized over decades of trial and
error to have a consistent sound in many languages as are the ITU
phonetic alphabet in worldwide use (except by some U.S. law enforcement
agencies I'm led to believe).


Roger = Guy
Wilco = 2nd Guy
Over = The way first guy likes it
Out = Both - of the closet

"B Banton" wrote:
| Roger = Guy
| Wilco = 2nd Guy
| Over = The way first guy likes it
| Out = Both - of the closet

Now, if any of that were true, the taxonomy would be:

"Melvin....Creep."

73,

SL

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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So "over and out" is incorrect procedure as that means "your turn but I'm
not listening".

Another convention that serves the same convention of "out" that I hear on
repeaters in my area is "my callsign is clear". The repeater's courtesy
tones usually serve the purpose of "over".

Jackie

Well, Roger without Wilco could mean "I understand but I won't comply." G

For kicks, we used to say things like:

"Roger, Wilco, Joe, Sam; over, under, in and out."

And:

"Roger, dodger, you old codger."

Bill, K5BY

Used as stated, in the movies by people that didn't know better.

"Bill" wrote in message
news:k4n9c.3197$pM1.1708@lakeread06...
How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a
term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

Quite correct.
It's good to see there are some that still know.

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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So "over and out" is incorrect procedure as that means "your turn but I'm
not listening".

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee D. Flint wrote:


So "over and out" is incorrect procedure as that means "your turn but I'm
not listening".


Sounds like something MWB or Steve might say to each other. :)

"CW" wrote in message
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Used as stated, in the movies by people that didn't know better.


The same sort of movie knucklehead who will be anxiously listening to an
important radio message, and as it fades -- he grabs the tuning knob, and
starts twisting it around!!

Frank Dresser

"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

Dee D. Flint wrote:

So "over and out" is incorrect procedure as that means "your turn but I'm
not listening".


Sounds like something MWB or Steve might say to each other. :)

LOL, I hadn't thought of it that way, but you are indeed correct!

N8KDV wrote in message
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Bill wrote:

How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a
term
from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

Wilco is an abbreviation for Will Comply.

Yes... and I suspect that the reply in the negative would be, "F**k you,
over". Although I have heard it used on international circuits I haven't
found it listed in my ITU pubs.

RG

Too long to give here but see URL:
http://ac6v.com/73.htm#roger

Lots more origins and meanings there

--
Incognito By Necessity (:-(

If you can't convince them, confuse them.
- - -Harry S Truman




"Bill" wrote in message
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How did the term "Roger Wilco, Over and Out" get started? Is this just a
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from the old sci-fi and war "B" movies?

"-=jd=-" wrote in message
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Party-1: "Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot, Over..."
Party-2: "GOLF!!-Tango-Foxtrot, OUT!..."
Sounds like someone was in serious danger of going tango uniform.

When things go wrong in mixed company, it's either (code men) "Three dits, four
dits, two dits, DAHHH!" Or (phone men) "Sierra Hotel India TANGO!"

Bill, K5BY