Hi,

Can't help commenting: I think that overall the Sat 800 is the better
receiver, but be VERY CAREFUL during the purchasing process. Ask if
the dealer will test the unit out for you. If not, frankly, I'd go to
another dealer. The q.c. is poor on the Satellit and a few dollars in
savings won't compensate for a defective radio. But when you get a
good one, it's VERY good. (I understand that the ICOM is always
well-put-together.)

Lawrence

"Stinger" wrote in message ...
GB,

I guess I fall into that category as well. I recently bought a Kaito 1102
from RadioLabs. It is a great little radio -- and unlike its similar Degen
Chinese-market cousins, it doesn't need a 220 to 110 adapter, it's U.L.
listed, and it has an actual radio dealer standing behind the warranty. If
you don't think the 220 adapter is a big deal, you didn't see the picture of
the melted one that was on the Yahoo site. I don't like them.

Every summer I go to a couple of conventions that always involve an extended
amount of time sitting on a sandy beach in Florida. There's no way I'd
subject my RadioLabs modded Super 909 to that environment (it's far too
precious to me) -- but the $80 Kaito -- perfect! I plan to build a slinky
antenna to connect to the rental beach umbrella.

My next purchase is going to be either an Icom R-75 or a Grundig S800. I'm
leaning toward the Grundig, because I like listening to "broadcast"
shortwave and MW, and the quality of the synch detector is important to me.

-- Stinger

"GO BEARCATS" wrote in message
...
I took a chance and ordered a new Chinese radio that I found on eBay.
It's a
Klonda K-939.

No meaning to flame Corbin or anyone else. But what has happened in here?

What I'm talking about is everyone (it seems) jumping on all these little
plastic toys of radios? If you add up the monet of the three of four or
more
(in some posters in here) that purchase these, you can go out and get you
a
real nice piece.

I hate to say "a real radio." But it kinda-sorta amounts to that. Or is
it
that it's easier to justify spending 20/30/50 on a radio than spending
over
$185/200/300?

I'm just curious is all. I have a Bell+Howell that was traded/given
practically to me. I use it here and there when I'm out in someones
driveway
waiting on them or I take it to the Shoemaker Center at UC. But you can't
do
'real' listening to it, not 'real' listening.

So, it's just a question, not a flame, just a question.:-)

~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~
*****GO BEARCATS*****
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Sloper
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*

Thanks, Lawrence.

-- Stinger

"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

Can't help commenting: I think that overall the Sat 800 is the better
receiver, but be VERY CAREFUL during the purchasing process. Ask if
the dealer will test the unit out for you. If not, frankly, I'd go to
another dealer. The q.c. is poor on the Satellit and a few dollars in
savings won't compensate for a defective radio. But when you get a
good one, it's VERY good. (I understand that the ICOM is always
well-put-together.)

Lawrence

"Stinger" wrote in message
...
GB,

I guess I fall into that category as well. I recently bought a Kaito
1102
from RadioLabs. It is a great little radio -- and unlike its similar
Degen
Chinese-market cousins, it doesn't need a 220 to 110 adapter, it's U.L.
listed, and it has an actual radio dealer standing behind the warranty.
If
you don't think the 220 adapter is a big deal, you didn't see the
picture of
the melted one that was on the Yahoo site. I don't like them.

Every summer I go to a couple of conventions that always involve an
extended
amount of time sitting on a sandy beach in Florida. There's no way I'd
subject my RadioLabs modded Super 909 to that environment (it's far too
precious to me) -- but the $80 Kaito -- perfect! I plan to build a
slinky
antenna to connect to the rental beach umbrella.

My next purchase is going to be either an Icom R-75 or a Grundig S800.
I'm
leaning toward the Grundig, because I like listening to "broadcast"
shortwave and MW, and the quality of the synch detector is important to
me.

-- Stinger

"GO BEARCATS" wrote in message
...
I took a chance and ordered a new Chinese radio that I found on eBay.
It's a
Klonda K-939.

No meaning to flame Corbin or anyone else. But what has happened in
here?

What I'm talking about is everyone (it seems) jumping on all these
little
plastic toys of radios? If you add up the monet of the three of four
or
more
(in some posters in here) that purchase these, you can go out and get
you
a
real nice piece.

I hate to say "a real radio." But it kinda-sorta amounts to that. Or
is
it
that it's easier to justify spending 20/30/50 on a radio than spending
over
$185/200/300?

I'm just curious is all. I have a Bell+Howell that was traded/given
practically to me. I use it here and there when I'm out in someones
driveway
waiting on them or I take it to the Shoemaker Center at UC. But you
can't
do
'real' listening to it, not 'real' listening.

So, it's just a question, not a flame, just a question.:-)

~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~
*****GO BEARCATS*****
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Sloper
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*

But there's no $300 radio out there that I want. I either already have it or
I had it and sold it.

Fair enough Corbin :-)

What my $300 has gotten me is eight experiences of getting a new radio. You
know, the pre-buy research, the actual purchase itself, the anticipation
during shipping, then actually opening the box, smelling the new radio
smell, putting in the batteries, and

inally turning it on for the first
time and seeing just how good it picks up. I've been able to do that eight
times in the past two months!!! If I had bought just one radio, then I would
have gotten just one new radio experience.

LOL, indeed. I know the feeling well. Matter of fact, never mind. ;-) But
well said.

Bottom line, I didn't get a $300 radio for my $300 investment. But I did get
eight radios that have given me thousands of dollars worth of enjoyment so
far, and I hope to keep right on playing with my new radios, right up until

they -- or I -- wear completely out.

Question answered. Good post Corbin. Don't forget your antenas now, be a good
dxer and have good antennas. ;-) You can still receive those warm fuzzy
feelings waitin' for an antenna in the mail.

~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~
*****GO BEARCATS*****
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Sloper
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*

Every summer I go to a couple of conventions that always involve an extended
amount of time sitting on a sandy beach in Florida. There's no way I'd
subject my RadioLabs modded Super 909 to that environment (it's far too
precious to me) -- but the $80 Kaito

No doubt there. :-)

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message ...
I took a chance and ordered a new Chinese radio that I found on eBay. It's a
Klonda K-939.

It came yesterday, and I was pleasantly surprised to find another good radio
in addition to Degen and Tecsun.

This model is smaller than the 1102 by 1 inch width, 1/2-inch tall, and
about the same thickness. It fits easily in a shirt pocket. Its rounded
corners and solid feel are very nice to hold.

It is an analog radio with a tuning knob but with a digital display.

The radio is AM, FM, and several shortwave bands. And its reception on each
has been just about equal to my 1102. Two quirks about the radio, when you
turn it on, it always comes on FM rather than wherever you last listened.
Odd. Another is that the AM bandwidth is a little wide for my tastes. But I
usually keep all my radios on narrow, and it doesn't have that option. I
realize that wide gives you better sound, so I understand their decision.
Last night, the radio was able to separate three strong adjacent frequencies
(WWL on 870, WCBS on 880, and WLS on 890) so I guess the bandwidth is ok,
but I'm just used to a little more narrow.

Anyway, I urge everyone with $27 ($19.99 + $7 shipping from China) to try
this radio and see what they think.

I like mine. It's now my third favorite Chinese radio, behind the DE1102 and
the BCL2000 (I've got six others).

Here's more info about the radio:
http://www.its-a.com/ebayradio/K-939.htm

And here's the seller I bought it from:
http://stores.ebay.com/1coolshop



I got one and you do not exaggerate in the least! ...surprisingly good
....I compared with my other radios, including a Sangean 909, Icom
IC-736, and Bell&Howell cheapie. ...it digs out the weakies on its own
antenna with such clarity... and dead-on frequency readout! Minimal
drift after five minutes on a test bench. I'd love to see the specs.
I'm not an AM/FM dxer, but I'd rate the AM/FM better than average for
$20.

Trade-offs for $20? Selectivity is average. For me, the high-pitched
audio is very nice, my wife says not so. ...and plenty of those single
conversion AM images.

The very weakest voice sigs on the B&H were carrier bumps. The same
sigs on the this radio and the Sangean were stronger and could be
understood. If a station was nearby, the Sangean didn't hear it, this
Konda could hear it, the B&H was in bed with it. The B&H for $9 - dial
freqs are off. B&H is much better sounding on strong stations, SW, AM,
FM. This $20 Klonda is as good for weak sigs as any sub-$100 radio
I've heard, not withstanding the cheapie trade-offs.