Dan,

Is the Sync Detector on a Grundig Sat800 really better than the one in Sony
2010's (or better still, Sony SW07's and SW77's)? I'd really like to hear
an objective observation from someone that has both (or any combination).

I had planned to buy a Grundig Sat800 this month, but with Sony ditching
high-end shortwave portables, I wonder if I shouldn't grab a SW77 while I
can still get one "brand new."

Also, does anyone know if the Sat800's synch detector is a single-chip-based
solution, or is it a module made up of several components? (Just curious.)

-- Stinger

"Dan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:25:09 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

If Sony does indeed get out of all of their shortwave radio products,
they
could make a killing selling their "synch detector on a chip" to Chinese
manufacturers.

Nah, they don't need it. The Chinese already have the best Sync
Detector in world in the Satellit 800, courtesy of Drake.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400, YB550PE
Degen DE1102, Kaito KA1102
Hallicrafters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

Thanks, Dan.

-- Stinger

"Dan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:34:03 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

Is the Sync Detector on a Grundig Sat800 really better than the one in
Sony
2010's (or better still, Sony SW07's and SW77's)? I'd really like to
hear
an objective observation from someone that has both (or any combination).

I don't have a 2010 (or any Sony radio), but everything I've read says
that the 800's sync is at least as good as the 2010's, if not better.
It locks solidy, it doesn't rumble during lock and it doesn't drift or
lose sync once it gets it. My 800's sync is better than my R8's sync.
In fact, I haven't used my R8 since I got the 800. Note that my R8
is the original model, which does not have selectable sideband sync.
It's double sideband only.

I had planned to buy a Grundig Sat800 this month, but with Sony ditching
high-end shortwave portables, I wonder if I shouldn't grab a SW77 while I
can still get one "brand new."

Not a bad idea.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400, YB550PE
Degen DE1102, Kaito KA1102
Hallicrafters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

I own two electronic devices that were so advanced that, after
ten-plus years, they're still going strong: my HP-48SX calculator and
my Sony ICF-SW100.

Like the Sony 2010, the SW100 was one of those rare grand slams.

Yeah, I angrily retired the SW100 after the second ribbon cable
failure, but then I read how to modify the case so it wasn't such a
good wire cutter.

Now I've returned to the incredible pocket-sized receiver as my
portable-of-choice.

If Sony really is bailing from short-wave, I guess they'll just join
Hallicrafters and the rest in the hall of fame.

Then we'll just have to wait for the next innovator to come along.

---------------------------
Registered Monitor BR549
The Shack on the Bayou - www.ghg.net/cliffwatts/

Drake R8, Sony ICF-SW100, Heathkit GR-64 (retired)
Realistic Pro-2006, Bearcat BC-245XLT

= = = (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in message
= = = ...
In article ,
Lawrence H. Bulk wrote:

Sony is "a ass!"

No, the're smart. Up until 1999 Sony was a consumer electronics company.
Since 1999 they have been an electronic game company that made about 10%
or so of their income from ALL of their other products.

In 1999 they made more money from the Playstation than all of their other
products combined in the history of the company.

The best thing they could do is sell off what is not Playstation related and
concentrate on their "cash cow".

Geoff.


GEOFF,

The key thing is those things that are PlayStation 'related'.

You can give the basic PlayStation away and your can make all
your money on the softwave/games. This is the high value
Human Based {Intellectual Property} that can be the Jobs
of the future for the Japanese.

jm2cw ~ RHF

..

Hello.

Well, I suppose the 7600 series is next. As I said, get 'em while you
can. Probably the last SW radio which will remain in their lineup will
be the 'SW35 as it is manufactured (to a very high standard) in China.

If they had real brains, they would turn all their shortwave product
over to Aiwa, their division which has never had real direction. They
could then concentrate on their "Play Station" and have Aiwa make a
small but very consistent profit.

National, Hallicrafters, Hammarlund, Sony ... ?

Lawrence

(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in message ...
In article ,
Lawrence H. Bulk wrote:

Sony is "a ass!"

No, the're smart. Up until 1999 Sony was a consumer electronics company.
Since 1999 they have been an electronic game company that made about 10%
or so of their income from ALL of their other products.

In 1999 they made more money from the Playstation than all of their other
products combined in the history of the company.

The best thing they could do is sell off what is not Playstation related and
concentrate on their "cash cow".

Geoff.

On 20 Apr 2004 22:02:50 -0700, (Cliff at the
Shack) wrote:

I own two electronic devices that were so advanced that, after
ten-plus years, they're still going strong: my HP-48SX calculator and
my Sony ICF-SW100.

Like the Sony 2010, the SW100 was one of those rare grand slams.

Yeah, I angrily retired the SW100 after the second ribbon cable
failure, but then I read how to modify the case so it wasn't such a
good wire cutter.

Now I've returned to the incredible pocket-sized receiver as my
portable-of-choice.

If Sony really is bailing from short-wave, I guess they'll just join
Hallicrafters and the rest in the hall of fame.

Then we'll just have to wait for the next innovator to come along.

---------------------------
Registered Monitor BR549
The Shack on the Bayou - www.ghg.net/cliffwatts/

Drake R8, Sony ICF-SW100, Heathkit GR-64 (retired)
Realistic Pro-2006, Bearcat BC-245XLT


You don't need to modify the SW100 case. There is a part number for
an updated display case and two ribbon cables as a kit. It's at
partsolver.com and costs about $20.

Regards