What are Long Recording Options?
 

I'm trying to come up with some ideas for recording radio broadcasts
from 2-4 hours long. What would be some options for doing this?

I've seen the VersaCorder from CCrane. Are these any good?

Some other ideas I've thought of, a

- Recording through the computer to a large HD in MP3 format. Then,
burn to CD. (Although, my car CD player doesn't play MP3s...)

- Is it possible to record in MP3 format to a MiniDisc recorder? If
so, what is the time capacity?

- Record to an HD-based MP3 player that allows recording via line
input.

- Record to computer HD in MP3 format and copy to a HD-based MP3
player.

- Are there any dual-cassette decks that will record on BOTH cassette
drives (and has auto-reverse)?

(Is MiniDisc technology obsolete and past? I've never had one.)

Thanks for any help,
Dan

"Dan Graves" wrote in message
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I'm trying to come up with some ideas for recording radio broadcasts
from 2-4 hours long. What would be some options for doing this?

I've seen the VersaCorder from CCrane. Are these any good?

Some other ideas I've thought of, a

- Recording through the computer to a large HD in MP3 format. Then,
burn to CD. (Although, my car CD player doesn't play MP3s...)

You could burn to CD in a music format by converting to wav files and then
burning the disk. However you would need multipl disks.


- Is it possible to record in MP3 format to a MiniDisc recorder? If
so, what is the time capacity?

There are new models coming out next month. Here is a link to one.
http://www.minidisco.com/mz-nh1.html

Note that some MD recorders do not have line inputs. Select your model
carefully.


- Record to an HD-based MP3 player that allows recording via line
input.

- Record to computer HD in MP3 format and copy to a HD-based MP3
player.

That would work.


- Are there any dual-cassette decks that will record on BOTH cassette
drives (and has auto-reverse)?

(Is MiniDisc technology obsolete and past? I've never had one.)

Thanks for any help,
Dan

You can also record 6 hours of audio on VHS tape.

Craig

Just use your computer. You can use "Sound Recorder" and record at 11KHz
bitrate, then archive the audio as an Vorbis .ogg file (better
compression and smaller size than an MP3).

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

"craigm" wrote:
| You can also record 6 hours of audio on VHS tape.
|
| Craig

That's one technique I have tried, with mixed
success. The real trouble came from the lousy
unshielded VCR cabinet, and this JVC machine
spewed crap from the bottom of the MW band
to the VHF lowband.

Have you noticed the same thing, Craig?

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

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"Dan Graves" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to come up with some ideas for recording radio broadcasts
from 2-4 hours long. What would be some options for doing this?

I've seen the VersaCorder from CCrane. Are these any good?

Some other ideas I've thought of, a

- Recording through the computer to a large HD in MP3 format. Then,
burn to CD. (Although, my car CD player doesn't play MP3s...)
I've got a program designed for just that... it records directly to mp3, can
even have time scheduled recordings... forget what it's called (total
recorder pops in my head, but not sure). I used it several years ago.
snip
- Are there any dual-cassette decks that will record on BOTH cassette
drives (and has auto-reverse)?
Mine would, but it got struck by lightning. Still doesn't give you a lot lot
of time (120min or longer cassettes are really too thin, they get tangled up
in the works too easy in car stereos)

As someone said, you could use a vcr.. I've even seen (somewhere) a gadget
that records just audio to VHS tapes... promised like 20 hours of high
quality audio.

When I wanted long long recordings several years ago, I have an old Sony
reel to reel stereo tape deck. For talk (slow speed mono) I can put it in a
half track mode... (records left channel only one way, left channel only the
other on auto reverse, right channel forward, then right channel back.) I
forget how long it will record like that. I have not used that in a while...
last used to record an all day seminar... then digitized it and put it on a
site in RM format.. was huge. Beasts like that are hard to find though.

I'd go for record in mp3 to computer, and if you want to listen in car,
convert to music CD's as appropriate... cd's are not too expensive. If you
go through a lot invest in some cd-rw's...

Dan Graves wrote in message . ..
I'm trying to come up with some ideas for recording radio broadcasts
from 2-4 hours long. What would be some options for doing this?

I've seen the VersaCorder from CCrane. Are these any good?

Some other ideas I've thought of, a

- Recording through the computer to a large HD in MP3 format. Then,
burn to CD. (Although, my car CD player doesn't play MP3s...)

- Is it possible to record in MP3 format to a MiniDisc recorder? If
so, what is the time capacity?

- Record to an HD-based MP3 player that allows recording via line
input.

- Record to computer HD in MP3 format and copy to a HD-based MP3
player.

- Are there any dual-cassette decks that will record on BOTH cassette
drives (and has auto-reverse)?

(Is MiniDisc technology obsolete and past? I've never had one.)

Thanks for any help,
Dan

Maybe you've already thought of this and dismissed it, but for long
recording I still use the audio input on an old VCR (remember them?).
Six or 8 hours of good quality stereo recording on one tape, then you
can dub it back into any format you choose.

--Ken

"Tyas_MT" wrote in message
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"Dan Graves" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to come up with some ideas for recording radio broadcasts
from 2-4 hours long. What would be some options for doing this?

I've seen the VersaCorder from CCrane. Are these any good?

Some other ideas I've thought of, a

- Recording through the computer to a large HD in MP3 format. Then,
burn to CD. (Although, my car CD player doesn't play MP3s...)
I've got a program designed for just that... it records directly to mp3,
can
even have time scheduled recordings... forget what it's called (total
recorder pops in my head, but not sure). I used it several years ago.
snip
- Are there any dual-cassette decks that will record on BOTH cassette
drives (and has auto-reverse)?
Mine would, but it got struck by lightning. Still doesn't give you a lot
lot
of time (120min or longer cassettes are really too thin, they get tangled
up
in the works too easy in car stereos)

As someone said, you could use a vcr.. I've even seen (somewhere) a gadget
that records just audio to VHS tapes... promised like 20 hours of high
quality audio.

When I wanted long long recordings several years ago, I have an old Sony
reel to reel stereo tape deck. For talk (slow speed mono) I can put it in
a
half track mode... (records left channel only one way, left channel only
the
other on auto reverse, right channel forward, then right channel back.) I
forget how long it will record like that. I have not used that in a
while...
last used to record an all day seminar... then digitized it and put it on
a
site in RM format.. was huge. Beasts like that are hard to find though.

I'd go for record in mp3 to computer, and if you want to listen in car,
convert to music CD's as appropriate... cd's are not too expensive. If you
go through a lot invest in some cd-rw's...



Good advice, but I'd go one further. Get a CD player for your car that
recognizes MP3 format (JVC makes some excellent ones, which are very
reasonably priced), and burn your CDs in MP3 format. One CD in that format
will hold several hours of programming.

-- Stinger

Subject: What are Long Recording Options?
From: Dan Graves
Date: 4/24/04 2:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

I'm trying to come up with some ideas for recording radio broadcasts
from 2-4 hours long. What would be some options for doing this?



I use a Sony digital voice recorder (dvr) -- up to 5 hrs, 30 min. of recording
length at the longest setting. For talk radio, it has decent quality at that
setting. Mine has a USB port, so I can upload what I've recorded to the
computer and record something else. The Sony software can convert the file to
several different bit rates, mono or stereo, in .wav format, if you want to
burn it to a CD. You can listen to what you've recorded on your computer or
transfer it back to the dvr later on. I like the portability and the fact you
can index where you left off listening so you can resume at that same point. I
hook it up to a FM transmitter in the car and listen to it over the car stereo.
The one downside is that it uses AAA batteries (about 8 hours per charge), so
rechargeables are recommended (there's no AC option on my model). My works
well to tape C2C using a DX-394 with it's five timers.

Allen

Allen

Dan,

The computer is defanately the way to go. You can record using
several different codecs making the wav files quite small. Then you
can convert these wav files to MP3 as you indicated.

I use a program called VRS Recording System (VRS v3.05). It is made
by NCH Swift Sound their website is: http://www.nch.com.au

They have a trial version you can download. The compression is so
good you can record 2 years of 24 hour-a-day audio on a 32GB hard
drive! I have been using the trial version and simply reloading it.
Since you only need one channel recorded at a time you can purchase
their basic version for $24 US if you wish.

Hope this helps.

Homac



Dan Graves wrote in message . ..
I'm trying to come up with some ideas for recording radio broadcasts
from 2-4 hours long. What would be some options for doing this?

I've seen the VersaCorder from CCrane. Are these any good?

Some other ideas I've thought of, a

- Recording through the computer to a large HD in MP3 format. Then,
burn to CD. (Although, my car CD player doesn't play MP3s...)

- Is it possible to record in MP3 format to a MiniDisc recorder? If
so, what is the time capacity?

- Record to an HD-based MP3 player that allows recording via line
input.

- Record to computer HD in MP3 format and copy to a HD-based MP3
player.

- Are there any dual-cassette decks that will record on BOTH cassette
drives (and has auto-reverse)?

(Is MiniDisc technology obsolete and past? I've never had one.)

Thanks for any help,
Dan

Is this "Sound Recorder" a Windows program or Linux?

Can MP3 players play .ogg Vorbis files? What Windows software will
play those (and maybe even convert them to MP3 or WAV)?

Thanks!

Dan



On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:30:52 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Just use your computer. You can use "Sound Recorder" and record at 11KHz
bitrate, then archive the audio as an Vorbis .ogg file (better
compression and smaller size than an MP3).

Thanks for all the help!

Dan

I use Real Encoder free from the real audio site (probably Real Producer
now, as I recall) and launch recording from a DOS (actually MKS Korn
Shell) command line. The duration and bitrate and output file are
all arguments. At 8kbs (good for voice but not music) it's 4mb/hr.

However, you have to decide if you want to archive the recordings;
I go to cassette tape with a Viking International 10hr (1/5 speed)
recorder, and save those forever; in addition in parallel the real
encoder, in case I want to save a snippet on the HD; and usually as
well a RipFlash IC recorder at 64kbs just for instant backup at high
fidelity. That's on programs I want to save, and possibly save on the
HD for segments later.

Anyway the R8B turns on at 5:30am to WFAN, and the real encoder
starts up on the clock; the 10hr recorder starts on audio presence;
and I have to be there to start the IC recorder.

The primitive cassette tape is the only format likely to survive
technical advance, of the three.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Maybe VHS Tape -- get 6 hours on a T-120 in EP (XP) mode

Also there are some T-160 and T-180 VHS tapes -- up to 9 hours recording
time
See Maxell URL:
http://www.high-techproductions.com/...video_tape.asp
--
Incognito By Necessity (:-(

If you can't convince them, confuse them.
- - -Harry S Truman

(Is MiniDisc technology obsolete and past? I've never had one.)

Thanks for any help,
Dan


Nope. Today's MD-LP (long play) enables you to record 80, 160 or 320
minutes on a disc, depending on speed chosen. LP4 (which gives you
320 minutes) is fine for talk. For music, stick with LP2 or Standard.

Now here is the exciting news about MiniDisc. Sony will be
introducting Hi-MD in a month or two. Here are some of the
highlights:


Hi-MD - Store 45 Hours of Music or 1 GB of Data on one Hi-MD MiniDisc

Compatible with Standard MiniDisc Media - Store 13 Hours of Music on
One Standard 80 minute MiniDisc

Record your MP3s or CDs at up to 100x Speed

Hi-MD recorders can be used directly as USB connected data drives on
any PC supporting USB storage devices (no additional drivers needed).

Microphone and line input (i.e. analog source) recordings made on
Hi-MD equipment can be uploaded at high-speed to Windows PCs via
SonicStage (Sony's copyright-protecting audio transfer software).

http://www.minidisc.org/ for a lot of good info about MD.

My guess is that the prices on the existing MD technology units (which
is perfect for my needs, anyway) will fall with the intro of Hi-MD.

--Russ

Behold, Dan Graves signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Is this "Sound Recorder" a Windows program or Linux?

Sound Recorder is part of the Windows install.

Can MP3 players play .ogg Vorbis files? What Windows software will play
those (and maybe even convert them to MP3 or WAV)?

Most all computer players, like Winamp, will play Vorbis files.
www.vorbis.com gives a list of goodies for you.

For converting, try the freeware program CDex - it's fabulous!


--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

Dan Graves wrote in message

- Record to an HD-based MP3 player that allows recording via line
input.

I use scanrec for general scanner and SWL recording. Mainly cuz it has
a VOX capability for on/off scanner use, and it supports compression
built in. The length the of the files will vary to smaple rate, etc,
but as an example, the lowest quality mpeg will let 60mb of HD space
last about 17-18 hours..
http://www.davee.com/scanrec/#UPDATES
I also use an old program called windat, which is a general purpose
recorder program. I think windows sound recorder is limited to about 1
min, as far as recording a new file.
I also have the old fashioned tape decks too...Have a sony r2r, and
also a tandberg r2r. But I prefer scanrec most of the time. My 706 is
always run through the sound card here in the house, so it's always
ready to go. MK