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Old May 1st 04, 02:10 AM
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Heard Nairobi airport on SSB mode in 11 Mhz band. I am surprised HF
is still used for ATC. I would think VHF would be the good mode of
transmission. Any ideas?
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Old May 1st 04, 02:20 AM
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No VHF repeaters in the middle of the ocean ;-)

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Old May 1st 04, 03:18 AM
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Gregg wrote:

No VHF repeaters in the middle of the ocean ;-)


Plus, you're talking about Africa, where they don't have the money for
stuff like VHF repeaters.

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Old May 1st 04, 06:46 AM
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"tommyknocker" wrote in message
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Gregg wrote:

No VHF repeaters in the middle of the ocean ;-)


Plus, you're talking about Africa, where they don't have the money for
stuff like VHF repeaters.


Actually, they DO have the money. It is collected from user charges - but as
usual this money is spirited away by what passes for Government in Africa.
Usually ends up in private bank account. As a result Air Traffic Control in
Africa is a joke!!!!


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Old May 1st 04, 03:24 PM
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They have plenty of money, I get emails all the times telling me that this
guy or another has $25,000,000 that they don't know what do do with. I
should reply next time and tell them to spend a few million on fixing up
their country.


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Gregg wrote:

No VHF repeaters in the middle of the ocean ;-)


Plus, you're talking about Africa, where they don't have the money for
stuff like VHF repeaters.





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Old May 1st 04, 08:20 PM
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In article VqOkc.5007$TD4.497014@attbi_s01,
"Jim Douglas" wrote:

They have plenty of money, I get emails all the times telling me that this
guy or another has $25,000,000 that they don't know what do do with. I
should reply next time and tell them to spend a few million on fixing up
their country.

They will come back and tell you they need a US bank account to fix up
their country. Be sure to give them all your personal information.

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tommyknocker wrote:

Gregg wrote:

No VHF repeaters in the middle of the ocean ;-)


Plus, you're talking about Africa, where they don't have the money for
stuff like VHF repeaters.


We're talking long distance stuff here... the airports in Africa generally
use the same VHF frequencies as everyone else...

But once they are out of range of a particular airport, HF comes into
play.



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Old May 1st 04, 04:19 AM
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What frequency and time was that?

Sounds like a fun target.

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Old May 1st 04, 04:32 AM
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J999w wrote:

What frequency and time was that?


Off the top of my head I think Nairobi (along with others) might be on
11300 USB. Audible here in the evenings.

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Old May 2nd 04, 02:56 AM
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All jokes aside, it is interesting to note that ATC were talking to
Royal Dutch Airlines on that frequency. I guess aircrafts have VHF as
well as HF radios onboard.

Steve is right about 11300 kHz USB.

N8KDV wrote in message ...
J999w wrote:

What frequency and time was that?


Off the top of my head I think Nairobi (along with others) might be on
11300 USB. Audible here in the evenings.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



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