RILEY SAYS K1MAN BROADCASTS ARE LEGAL
April 14, 2004
Mr. Glenn A. Baxter RR 1 Box 776 Belgrade Lakes, ME 04918 Amateur Radio license K1MAN Dear Mr. Baxter: This letter explains in what ways your Amateur station has come into compliance with Commission rules since our letter to you of January 29, 2002; and notifies you of two areas of operation that, if not corrected, will lead to enforcement action against your license and/or designation of your renewal application for a hearing. By letter dated January 29, 2002, the Commission notified you that your understanding of various Amateur Radio Service rules was incorrect. We outlined your apparent misconceptions regarding station control, publishing a transmitting schedule and how that related to interference, threats made to licensee complainants, including threats made with so-called "felony complaint affidavits", broadcasting and broadcasting of tape recordings and telephone conversations. The January 29 letter detailed complaints received by the Commission, and explained that your method of station control, i.e., "a timer from Radio Shack", did not achieve compliance with the Commission's Rules when you were not present at the control point for your station and, therefore, did not satisfy the Commission's Rules regarding automatic control of a station. We explained to you that to comply with the Commission's Rules you must be at the transmitter, or at the transmitter control point, every moment your station is transmitting when your station is locally or remotely controlled; and that if the station is controlled by telecommand from the control point using a radio link, the frequencies used for telecommand must comply with the Section 97.201 requirements for an auxiliary station (may transmit only on the 1.25 m and shorter wavelength bands, except 219-220, 222-222.150, 431-433 and 435-438 MHz segments). By letter dated March 4, 2003, the Commission's Boston Office notified you that Commission monitoring and numerous complaints filed with the Commission indicated that the problems outlined in January 2002 had not been corrected. The letter stated that your Amateur station was apparently being used for broadcasting various programs having nothing to do with Amateur Radio; and that transmissions from your station were being used for deliberate interference and for communications in which you apparently had a pecuniary interest. The Boston Office letter stated that transmissions started and ended erratically, were sometimes repetitive and abruptly ended with no identification as required by Commission rules, and that such operation indicated that the transmissions were not under proper control of a licensed operator. The letter noted also that you continually broadcast notices of so-called "felony complaint affidavits " that you claimed to have filed with the United States Justice Department against other Amateur Radio licensees whom you perceived to have interfered with your broadcasts, or refused to relinquish their operating frequency to you. The Boston Office's letter stated that transmissions from your Amateur station included references to a degree program and directed listeners to your website that advertised an "American Radio School Technician Degree in Electronics" for "$299.95". On that web site you solicited donations for radio equipment, advertised a credit card, and solicited donations and advertised for "IARN" and "AARA". The letter from the Boston office pointed out that such use of your station was in apparent violation of Section 97.113(a)(3) of the Commission's rules, which prohibits "Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect...." and "Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest..." The letter from the Boston Office requested that you provide substantial additional information about the operation of your station, including submission of a log detailing the information on a weekly basis until further notice. In January 2004, the Boston office notified you that you could discontinue the log submissions, and referred the case to this office. We have reviewed the information you submitted, as well as numerous complaints filed against your station. Additionally we have reviewed tape recordings made by Commission personnel of your transmissions at various times during 2003 and 2004 subsequent to the Boston Office letter of March 3, 2003. It is the finding of this office that you are, with some exceptions, generally in compliance with the Commission's rules in the Amateur Service related to broadcasting and information bulletins, and we explain as follows. Broadcasting is prohibited in the Amateur Radio Service, with some exceptions. Section 97.3(a)(10) defines broadcasting as "transmissions intended for reception by the general public, either direct or relayed." One-way transmissions are limited in the Amateur service, but an exception is allowed in Section 97.111(b)(6) for "Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins." Information bulletins are defined by Section 97.3(a)(26) as messages "directed only to Amateur operators consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the Amateur service." There are no specific time limits placed upon information bulletins by Commission rules. A review of your programs at random times since March 3, 2003 indicates that your transmissions were directed to Amateur Radio operators, not to the general public, and that the individual bulletins were related to the Amateur Radio Service. The only notable exception was the offering of a reward for information leading to the identity of parties making threatening telephone calls to you. The station control problems outlined to you in warnings from the Commission appear, with minor exceptions, to have been corrected. During the monitoring period your station abruptly ended transmission with no identification in one instance, and started transmissions in mid-sentence in another instance. There are, however, two areas in the operation of your Amateur station that must be corrected in order to avoid enforcement action and/or a designation of your renewal application for hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a licensee. These a 1) deliberate interference resulting from your commencing operation on top of ongoing communications, in violation of Section 97.101(a) and (d); and 2) use of your Amateur station for pecuniary interests, in violation of Sections 97.113(a)(2)and (3). Regarding deliberate interference, we receive continuing complaints, and our monitoring verifies, that your transmissions start up on top of existing communications of individual licensees as well as nets such as the Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network. Such operation constitutes deliberate interference. Stations engaging in ongoing communications are not obligated to stop transmitting when K1MAN wants to start transmitting on a frequency, and complainants are so advised by the Commission. You appear to believe that the publication of a transmission schedule gives you the right to begin transmitting on a certain frequency at a certain time, even if the frequency is occupied. It does not. All frequencies in the Amateur Radio Service are shared--no frequency is assigned for the exclusive use of any station, and your Amateur station has no greater rights to a frequency at any particular time than any other Amateur station. Section 97.101(d) of the rules prohibits an Amateur station from willfully or maliciously interfering with any radio communication or signal. Moreover, publishing a schedule is merely one of the several conditions necessary for the control operator of a club station to accept compensation for transmitting information bulletins, pursuant to Section 97.113(d) of the Commission's rules. Your station K1MAN, however, is not a club station. Regarding use of an Amateur station for pecuniary interest, we note that your Amateur Radio program transmissions regularly advertise your web page at www.K1man.com, and on those pages you advertise items for sale by the American Amateur Radio Association (AARA), including T shirts, hats and a "Technician Degree Diploma". You advertise the sales commissions and "overrides" that your State Directors and Section Managers can receive, and detail ways in which your Section Managers can earn money by recruiting members, selling hats, name badges or T shirts. Section 97.113(a)(2) prohibits communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised. Section 97.113(a)(3) prohibits communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest. We remind you that any attempts to threaten or intimidate Amateur radio licensees operating on the Amateur bands will reflect adversely upon your qualifications to remain a Commission licensee, and would be the subject of a license revocation or renewal hearing. By letter dated December 11, 2001, you were warned against the sending of your so-called "felony complaint affidavits" to various Amateur Radio licenses that you perceive to either cause interference to your station or which do not relinquish to you the frequency on which they are operating. Complainants were advised by the Commission to forward any such "affidavits" they received to the Commission, and that they could otherwise be ignored. The United States Attorney for your jurisdiction also warned you that the mailing of such "affidavits" is contrary to law. Apparently you have discontinued those threats. We also remind you that, in regard to the taping and broadcasting of telephone calls, you must comply with applicable state laws. In conclusion, failure to correct the deliberate interference caused by K1MAN, and the continued use of K1MAN for pecuniary interests, will lead to enforcement action against your license. Either would be sufficient to designate your renewal application for an evidentiary hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a Commission licensee. An adverse finding in regard to threats to complainant licensees, or violation of state law regarding recording and broadcasting telephone conversations, would lead to enforcement action against your license and would be sufficient to designate your renewal application for an evidentiary hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a Commission licensee. You would have the burden of proof in such a proceeding. You should be aware that in 1990, the Commission revised its character qualifications policy, expanding the types of non-FCC-related misconduct that it would consider as bearing on licensee or applicant character qualifications (Policy Regarding Character Qualifications in Broadcast Licensing, Policy Statement and Order, 5 FCC RCD 3252 (1990) (Character Policy Statement), recon. granted in part, denied in part, 6 FCC Rcd 3448 (1991), further recon. granted, 7 FCC Rcd 6564 (1992). The Commission concluded that "a propensity to comply with the law generally is relevant to the Commission's public interest analysis, and that an applicant's or licensee's willingness to violate other laws, and, in particular, to commit felonies, also bears on our confidence that an applicant or licensee will conform to FCC rules and policies. The 1990 Character Policy Statement applies to Amateur Radio licensees just as it does to all other FCC licensees ( See, e.g., Herbert L. Schoenbohm, Decision, 13 FCC Rcd 15028 (1998), recon. denied, 13 FCC Rcd 23774 (1998), aff'd in part, dismissed in part sub nom. Schoenbohm v. FCC, 204 F.3d 243 (2000), cert. denied, 121 S. Ct. 405 (2000); Leslie D. Brewer, Order to Show Cause, Notice of Order of Suspension, Notice of Opportunity for Hearing, and Notice of Apparent Liability for a Forfeiture, 16 FCC Rcd 5671, licenses revoked, 16 FCC Rcd 12878 (2001). Accordingly, we will continue to review the operation of K1MAN in light of the issues outlined above. CC: FCC Northeastern Regional Director FCC Boston Office District Director Honorable Paula D. Silsby, United States Attorney, US Department of Justice, District of Maine Timothy D. Wing, Assistant U.S. Attorney, U. S. Department of Justice, District of Maine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: Issuance by the FCC of a Warning Notice indicates that the FCC has what it believes to be reliable evidence of possible rules infractions and not necessarily that the recipient has violated FCC rules. The FCC has the authority, pursuant to §97.519(d)(2) of the rules to readminister any examination element previously administered by a volunteer examiner. These enforcement letters are representative of recent Advisory Notices, Warning Notices, Notices of Violation and other FCC communications to licensees and others involving possible serious rules violations. Unless otherwise indicated, all letters were signed by FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth. This listing is not a comprehensive record of FCC Amateur enforcement actions. Follow-up correspondence will be published as provided. Address all inquiries regarding this correspondence to FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth, . |
Dave Welby wrote: April 14, 2004 Mr. Glenn A. Baxter RR 1 Box 776 Belgrade Lakes, ME 04918 Amateur Radio license K1MAN Dear Mr. Baxter: This letter explains in what ways your Amateur station has come into compliance with Commission rules since our letter to you of January 29, 2002; and notifies you of two areas of operation that, if not corrected, will lead to enforcement action against your license and/or designation of your renewal application for a hearing. By letter dated January 29, 2002, the Commission notified you that your understanding of various Amateur Radio Service rules was incorrect. We outlined your apparent misconceptions regarding station control, publishing a transmitting schedule and how that related to interference, threats made to licensee complainants, including threats made with so-called "felony complaint affidavits", broadcasting and broadcasting of tape recordings and telephone conversations. The January 29 letter detailed complaints received by the Commission, and explained that your method of station control, i.e., "a timer from Radio Shack", did not achieve compliance with the Commission's Rules when you were not present at the control point for your station and, therefore, did not satisfy the Commission's Rules regarding automatic control of a station. We explained to you that to comply with the Commission's Rules you must be at the transmitter, or at the transmitter control point, every moment your station is transmitting when your station is locally or remotely controlled; and that if the station is controlled by telecommand from the control point using a radio link, the frequencies used for telecommand must comply with the Section 97.201 requirements for an auxiliary station (may transmit only on the 1.25 m and shorter wavelength bands, except 219-220, 222-222.150, 431-433 and 435-438 MHz segments). By letter dated March 4, 2003, the Commission's Boston Office notified you that Commission monitoring and numerous complaints filed with the Commission indicated that the problems outlined in January 2002 had not been corrected. The letter stated that your Amateur station was apparently being used for broadcasting various programs having nothing to do with Amateur Radio; and that transmissions from your station were being used for deliberate interference and for communications in which you apparently had a pecuniary interest. The Boston Office letter stated that transmissions started and ended erratically, were sometimes repetitive and abruptly ended with no identification as required by Commission rules, and that such operation indicated that the transmissions were not under proper control of a licensed operator. The letter noted also that you continually broadcast notices of so-called "felony complaint affidavits " that you claimed to have filed with the United States Justice Department against other Amateur Radio licensees whom you perceived to have interfered with your broadcasts, or refused to relinquish their operating frequency to you. The Boston Office's letter stated that transmissions from your Amateur station included references to a degree program and directed listeners to your website that advertised an "American Radio School Technician Degree in Electronics" for "$299.95". On that web site you solicited donations for radio equipment, advertised a credit card, and solicited donations and advertised for "IARN" and "AARA". The letter from the Boston office pointed out that such use of your station was in apparent violation of Section 97.113(a)(3) of the Commission's rules, which prohibits "Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect...." and "Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest..." The letter from the Boston Office requested that you provide substantial additional information about the operation of your station, including submission of a log detailing the information on a weekly basis until further notice. In January 2004, the Boston office notified you that you could discontinue the log submissions, and referred the case to this office. We have reviewed the information you submitted, as well as numerous complaints filed against your station. Additionally we have reviewed tape recordings made by Commission personnel of your transmissions at various times during 2003 and 2004 subsequent to the Boston Office letter of March 3, 2003. It is the finding of this office that you are, with some exceptions, generally in compliance with the Commission's rules in the Amateur Service related to broadcasting and information bulletins, and we explain as follows. Broadcasting is prohibited in the Amateur Radio Service, with some exceptions. Section 97.3(a)(10) defines broadcasting as "transmissions intended for reception by the general public, either direct or relayed." One-way transmissions are limited in the Amateur service, but an exception is allowed in Section 97.111(b)(6) for "Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins." Information bulletins are defined by Section 97.3(a)(26) as messages "directed only to Amateur operators consisting solely of subject matter of direct interest to the Amateur service." There are no specific time limits placed upon information bulletins by Commission rules. A review of your programs at random times since March 3, 2003 indicates that your transmissions were directed to Amateur Radio operators, not to the general public, and that the individual bulletins were related to the Amateur Radio Service. The only notable exception was the offering of a reward for information leading to the identity of parties making threatening telephone calls to you. The station control problems outlined to you in warnings from the Commission appear, with minor exceptions, to have been corrected. During the monitoring period your station abruptly ended transmission with no identification in one instance, and started transmissions in mid-sentence in another instance. There are, however, two areas in the operation of your Amateur station that must be corrected in order to avoid enforcement action and/or a designation of your renewal application for hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a licensee. These a 1) deliberate interference resulting from your commencing operation on top of ongoing communications, in violation of Section 97.101(a) and (d); and 2) use of your Amateur station for pecuniary interests, in violation of Sections 97.113(a)(2)and (3). Regarding deliberate interference, we receive continuing complaints, and our monitoring verifies, that your transmissions start up on top of existing communications of individual licensees as well as nets such as the Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network. Such operation constitutes deliberate interference. Stations engaging in ongoing communications are not obligated to stop transmitting when K1MAN wants to start transmitting on a frequency, and complainants are so advised by the Commission. You appear to believe that the publication of a transmission schedule gives you the right to begin transmitting on a certain frequency at a certain time, even if the frequency is occupied. It does not. All frequencies in the Amateur Radio Service are shared--no frequency is assigned for the exclusive use of any station, and your Amateur station has no greater rights to a frequency at any particular time than any other Amateur station. Section 97.101(d) of the rules prohibits an Amateur station from willfully or maliciously interfering with any radio communication or signal. Moreover, publishing a schedule is merely one of the several conditions necessary for the control operator of a club station to accept compensation for transmitting information bulletins, pursuant to Section 97.113(d) of the Commission's rules. Your station K1MAN, however, is not a club station. Regarding use of an Amateur station for pecuniary interest, we note that your Amateur Radio program transmissions regularly advertise your web page at www.K1man.com, and on those pages you advertise items for sale by the American Amateur Radio Association (AARA), including T shirts, hats and a "Technician Degree Diploma". You advertise the sales commissions and "overrides" that your State Directors and Section Managers can receive, and detail ways in which your Section Managers can earn money by recruiting members, selling hats, name badges or T shirts. Section 97.113(a)(2) prohibits communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised. Section 97.113(a)(3) prohibits communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest. We remind you that any attempts to threaten or intimidate Amateur radio licensees operating on the Amateur bands will reflect adversely upon your qualifications to remain a Commission licensee, and would be the subject of a license revocation or renewal hearing. By letter dated December 11, 2001, you were warned against the sending of your so-called "felony complaint affidavits" to various Amateur Radio licenses that you perceive to either cause interference to your station or which do not relinquish to you the frequency on which they are operating. Complainants were advised by the Commission to forward any such "affidavits" they received to the Commission, and that they could otherwise be ignored. The United States Attorney for your jurisdiction also warned you that the mailing of such "affidavits" is contrary to law. Apparently you have discontinued those threats. We also remind you that, in regard to the taping and broadcasting of telephone calls, you must comply with applicable state laws. In conclusion, failure to correct the deliberate interference caused by K1MAN, and the continued use of K1MAN for pecuniary interests, will lead to enforcement action against your license. Either would be sufficient to designate your renewal application for an evidentiary hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a Commission licensee. An adverse finding in regard to threats to complainant licensees, or violation of state law regarding recording and broadcasting telephone conversations, would lead to enforcement action against your license and would be sufficient to designate your renewal application for an evidentiary hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a Commission licensee. You would have the burden of proof in such a proceeding. You should be aware that in 1990, the Commission revised its character qualifications policy, expanding the types of non-FCC-related misconduct that it would consider as bearing on licensee or applicant character qualifications (Policy Regarding Character Qualifications in Broadcast Licensing, Policy Statement and Order, 5 FCC RCD 3252 (1990) (Character Policy Statement), recon. granted in part, denied in part, 6 FCC Rcd 3448 (1991), further recon. granted, 7 FCC Rcd 6564 (1992). The Commission concluded that "a propensity to comply with the law generally is relevant to the Commission's public interest analysis, and that an applicant's or licensee's willingness to violate other laws, and, in particular, to commit felonies, also bears on our confidence that an applicant or licensee will conform to FCC rules and policies. The 1990 Character Policy Statement applies to Amateur Radio licensees just as it does to all other FCC licensees ( See, e.g., Herbert L. Schoenbohm, Decision, 13 FCC Rcd 15028 (1998), recon. denied, 13 FCC Rcd 23774 (1998), aff'd in part, dismissed in part sub nom. Schoenbohm v. FCC, 204 F.3d 243 (2000), cert. denied, 121 S. Ct. 405 (2000); Leslie D. Brewer, Order to Show Cause, Notice of Order of Suspension, Notice of Opportunity for Hearing, and Notice of Apparent Liability for a Forfeiture, 16 FCC Rcd 5671, licenses revoked, 16 FCC Rcd 12878 (2001). Accordingly, we will continue to review the operation of K1MAN in light of the issues outlined above. CC: FCC Northeastern Regional Director FCC Boston Office District Director Honorable Paula D. Silsby, United States Attorney, US Department of Justice, District of Maine Timothy D. Wing, Assistant U.S. Attorney, U. S. Department of Justice, District of Maine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: Issuance by the FCC of a Warning Notice indicates that the FCC has what it believes to be reliable evidence of possible rules infractions and not necessarily that the recipient has violated FCC rules. The FCC has the authority, pursuant to §97.519(d)(2) of the rules to readminister any examination element previously administered by a volunteer examiner. These enforcement letters are representative of recent Advisory Notices, Warning Notices, Notices of Violation and other FCC communications to licensees and others involving possible serious rules violations. Unless otherwise indicated, all letters were signed by FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth. This listing is not a comprehensive record of FCC Amateur enforcement actions. Follow-up correspondence will be published as provided. Address all inquiries regarding this correspondence to FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth, . Yeah, they'll be legal as soon as he cleans up his act! Read the whole thing. |
Well not quite all legal. Seems he must clean up his act in regards to the following items. Section 97.113(a)(2) prohibits communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised. Section 97.113(a)(3) prohibits communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest. We remind you that any attempts to threaten or intimidate Amateur radio licensees operating on the Amateur bands will reflect adversely upon your qualifications to remain a Commission licensee, and would be the subject of a license revocation or renewal hearing. By letter dated December 11, 2001, you were warned against the sending of your so-called "felony complaint affidavits" to various Amateur Radio licenses that you perceive to either cause interference to your station or which do not relinquish to you the frequency on which they are operating. Complainants were advised by the Commission to forward any such "affidavits" they received to the Commission, and that they could otherwise be ignored. The United States Attorney for your jurisdiction also warned you that the mailing of such "affidavits" is contrary to law. Apparently you have discontinued those threats. We also remind you that, in regard to the taping and broadcasting of telephone calls, you must comply with applicable state laws. In conclusion, failure to correct the deliberate interference caused by K1MAN, and the continued use of K1MAN for pecuniary interests, will lead to enforcement action against your license. Either would be sufficient to designate your renewal application for an evidentiary hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a Commission licensee. An adverse finding in regard to threats to complainant licensees, or violation of state law regarding recording and broadcasting telephone conversations, would lead to enforcement action against your license and would be sufficient to designate your renewal application for an evidentiary hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a Commission licensee. You would have the burden of proof in such a proceeding. The best thing that could happen to Amateur Radio would be for K1MAN to be taken off the air. |
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Lloyd wrote:
"JJ" wrote in message ... The best thing that could happen to Amateur Radio would be for K1MAN to be taken off the air. Why? If you don't know why, then you are a part of the problem like he is. Tell me why someone who has no respect for other amateurs, who interfers with other amateur communications, issues phoney "felony complaint affidavits" to harass other amateurs, threatens other amateurs because they refuse to give up the frequency to him, willfully violates the FCC rules, uses amateur radio for monitary gain (against the rules), engages in broadcasting (against the FCC rules), should be on the air? |
"Lloyd" wrote:
"JJ" wrote in message ... If you don't know why, then you are a part of the problem like he is. Tell me why someone who has no respect for other amateurs, who interfers with other amateur communications, issues phoney "felony complaint affidavits" to harass other amateurs, threatens other amateurs because they refuse to give up the frequency to him, willfully violates the FCC rules, uses amateur radio for monitary gain (against the rules), engages in broadcasting (against the FCC rules), should be on the air? How does me not understanding the problem make me *part* of the problem? 73, Lloyd Heh, it's just more of JJ's double-speak. Ask him what his call is. -- I won't retire, but I might retread. |
"JJ" wrote in message ... The best thing that could happen to Amateur Radio would be for K1MAN to be taken off the air. For sure! Baxter has not mellowed a bit. I remember when he got his kicks knocking the fine, friendly gentlemen who ran the Sunday morning Bermuda Net off their traditional frequency with his one-way high-powered blather. Then Baxter went and declared a national emergency for the country of Bermuda! What a nut. How long must we endure Baxter's abuse of amateur radio? AK --------- Tony's letter to the Bermuda Government Telecom Officer -------- Antony Sxxxx, VP9-- Hamilton, Bermuda August 21st. 1989 Mr. E. Pitman, Governement Telecommunications Officer, Department of Telecommunications, Hamilton. Dear Ted, I am faxing a transcript of the broadcast put out by K1MAN last week. When you have read this I would like to have a meeting with you, maybe we could have lunch and discuss it then, to fill you in on what actually happened. Your support with this would be appreciated. I have been to the American Consulate and will be writing a formal letter of complaint this week, requesting a public apology from K1MAN. He is advocating that I should lose my license for NOT passing third party traffic when the "world needed to know" and he had declared an emergency. He was doing this under the authority of the "FCC" according to him. I reminded him that we were not a State of the United States of America and that we were governed by the Department of Telecommunications and also the British arrangements for third party traffic. He could declare whatever he wanted to but until we had clearance, we would not pass it No emergency had been declared and as far as we were concerned it was an unofficial net standing by in case we were needed should an emergency be declared. He did not like being informed that we were handling the situation ourselves very efficiently, without his help. Please telephone me when it is convenient and I will explain more, or as I said, maybe we could have lunch. Yours sincerely, Antony Sxxxx VP9-- ---------------------------------- This is a response to the editorial broadcast by K1MAN after Hurricane Dean. STATEMENT - KlMAN stated "IARN activated for Hurricane Dean as it neared Bermuda, Sunday August 6th. 1989 at 11.30 UTC. IARN Headquarters in Belgrade Lakes etc. received a call from Tony Sxxxxx, VP9--, requesting assistance from IARN on 14.275mHz. Tony wants to activate 14 . 275mHz. . .etc. " FACT - At 11.15 UTC, VP9-- & VP9__ activated the Bermuda net. A broadcast was in progress and VP9-- decided to telephone KlMAN. The conversation was "Glen Baxter" and the response was "Tony Sxxxx VP9-- in Bermuda. We want 14.275mHz cleared due to the impending Hurricane" Response from Glen Baxter, "No problem" and the telephone conversation finished. FACT - At no time was a request made for IARN to assist or to activate. FACT - KlMAN checked in to the Bermuda net at 11.45 UTC and he was informed, (as were many others who had checked in) of the current situation in Bermuda. STATEMENT - "Associated Press and therefore the entire world, was, de facto, cut off from the world of public information dissemination.......... up to the minute detail report, now assured that ham radio and IARN had a well established and well maintained link to Bermuda" FACT - Glen Baxter was not on a well maintained link to Bermuda. He checked in and was given information the same as many other hams. The so called emergency was K1MAN generated and not an emergency in Bermuda. The reports of lack of readiness at 20.00 UTC were absolute poppycock. All of this information had been issued by the Bermuda Hams between the hours of 11.15 UTC and 13.00 UTC that Bermuda had been well prepared. STATEMENT by Glen Baxter ".....festival the previous Thursday which included a soccer match between teams on either end of the Island." FACT - Again, poppycock. K1MAN had been informed that the Cup Match was a cricket game between St. Georges and Somerset, had been played, the result was a draw and everyone had a good time. The match was on Thursday and Friday when the storm was hundreds of miles away. This Information had been given hours earlier. FACT - IARU had generated an emergency, no one else. Totally uncalled for "here is the important news we gathered for Associated Press." IARN were more interested in promoting themselves and Glen Baxter in particular and when he found that he was not wanted on the net and did not have control of it he resorted to terminological inexactitudes to achieve his ends. FACT - Glen Baxter relayed conversations he had with VP9-- to Associated Press without the consent or knowledge of VP9-- at the time. This is in contravention of International Law. As an American citizen he has no right to assume Governmental authority and issue edicts to hams in other countries. At no time can he advocate publicly that licenses should be revoked and should he have any complaints then these should be directed through the Department of Telecommunications in Bermuda. His pontificating on people's attitudes and his declarations of emergencies allows him to promote himself and his organization in such a way that his approach does sound plausible. As they say you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time and K1MAN does not fool any Bermuda Ham. His trip to Moscow paid for by the Young Communist League leaves one to suspect his motives and his reporting. |
"Lloyd" wrote in message ...
"JJ" wrote in message ... The best thing that could happen to Amateur Radio would be for K1MAN to be taken off the air. Why? 73, Lloyd Because AnonJJ says so. And he speaks for NORAD and FEMA. |
"Lloyd" wrote in message ... "King Zulu" wrote in message news:rYxmc.43864$I%1.2842221@attbi_s51... For sure! Baxter has not mellowed a bit. I remember when he got his kicks knocking the fine, friendly gentlemen who ran the Sunday morning Bermuda Net off their traditional frequency with his one-way high-powered blather. Then Baxter went and declared a national emergency for the country of Bermuda! What a nut. How long must we endure Baxter's abuse of amateur radio? AK An interesting story and yet another *opinion* of why Baxter should lose his license. As yet, no one has said *why* Baxter should lose his license. Repeated willful interference. One-way broadcasting violating FCC regulations. AK |
Lloyd,
Personally, I think K1MAN should be removed. Why? Because of the attitude "I am always right." and might makes right. It is such attitudes that brought us Tailgate, the Marine Corps mess (where medals were jammed into bare flesh, amongst other things) and the current situation where the mighty (who served, maybe, perhaps, uh .... well, he *did* receive at least one paycheck - I think) and their well monied supporters have caused us irreperable damage in the sight of the world with abominable treatment of prisoners. Argue all you want; I won't. The world *will* pass judgement. The best thing is the removal of the current administration of this country and removal of K1MAN would do the amateur service a good boost in the right - uh, make that *proper* - direction. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Lloyd" wrote in message ... "JJ" wrote in message ... The best thing that could happen to Amateur Radio would be for K1MAN to be taken off the air. Why? 73, Lloyd --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.678 / Virus Database: 440 - Release Date: 5/6/04 |
"Lloyd" wrote in message ... "JJ" wrote in message ... If you don't know why, then you are a part of the problem like he is. Tell me why someone who has no respect for other amateurs, who interfers with other amateur communications, issues phoney "felony complaint affidavits" to harass other amateurs, threatens other amateurs because they refuse to give up the frequency to him, willfully violates the FCC rules, uses amateur radio for monitary gain (against the rules), engages in broadcasting (against the FCC rules), should be on the air? How does me not understanding the problem make me *part* of the problem? 73, Lloyd JJ.....you can't rationalize with Lllllllooooooyyyyyddddd........ Ya just cain't fix stupid. Dan/W4NTI |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote:
JJ.....you can't rationalize with Lllllllooooooyyyyyddddd........ Ya just cain't fix stupid. Dan/W4NTI You know all about being stupid, Dan. -- I won't retire, but I might retread. |
"William" wrote in message om... "Lloyd" wrote in message ... "JJ" wrote in message ... The best thing that could happen to Amateur Radio would be for K1MAN to be taken off the air. Why? 73, Lloyd Because AnonJJ says so. And he speaks for NORAD and FEMA. Actually JJ just repeated what the FCC said to Baxter. And just what does NORAD and FEMA have to do with it? Dan/W4NTI |
Lloyd,
Regardless, he has *not* totally cleaned up his act. My best thought would be to eliminate any kind of "broadcasting". The ARRL wouldn't care for that, obviously, but there are going to be more folks that feel if one person (or organization) can, then they can. They *can* indeed, if they follow the rules. But those with the attitudes that bother me are always 'pushing' the envelope. Either they are given carte blanc, or others start the same thing. In any event, the willful interference bothers me a *lot*. This has been getting worse over time and if not nipped in the bud, amateur radio might just as well be called amateur cb. Sorry, just my opinion. 73, Jim AA2QA "Lloyd" wrote in message ... Yet another nicely worded personal *opinion* but no one has yet to say *why* Baxter should lose his license. What has the current administration have to do with Baxter? 73, Lloyd --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.678 / Virus Database: 440 - Release Date: 5/6/04 |
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote: JJ.....you can't rationalize with Lllllllooooooyyyyyddddd........ Ya just cain't fix stupid. Dan/W4NTI You know all about being stupid, Dan. -- I won't retire, but I might retread. Sure do, larned it all right here on USENET. Dan/W4NTI |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote: JJ.....you can't rationalize with Lllllllooooooyyyyyddddd........ Ya just cain't fix stupid. Dan/W4NTI You know all about being stupid, Dan. -- I won't retire, but I might retread. Sure do, larned it all right here on USENET. Dan/W4NTI leland is a jackass on Usenet. -- I won't retire, but I might retread. |
Steveo wrote:
Heh, it's just more of JJ's double-speak. Ask him what his call is. And your call is? |
Lloyd wrote:
"JJ" wrote in message ... The best thing that could happen to Amateur Radio would be for K1MAN to be taken off the air. Why? Rules violations. Seems he has fixed all but 2 such problems. One that needs to be corrected is starting his transmissions on top of existing QSOs. Even W1AW has to QSY up or down several KHz to find an unused frequency. Hams who wish to listen to K1MAN know how to tune a receiver to find him. A more serious issue would be pecuniary interests he might be having in his transmissions. Wacky opinions are still protected by the 1st Amendment. |
JJ wrote:
Steveo wrote: Heh, it's just more of JJ's double-speak. Ask him what his call is. And your call is? When is the last time you heard a CBer use a call, JJ? Oh never mind, you're the dood who claims to have never used a CB, right? -- I won't retire, but I might retread. |
Lloyd wrote:
"King Zulu" wrote in message news:eEymc.31654$Ia6.5199030@attbi_s03... Repeated willful interference. One-way broadcasting violating FCC regulations. AK Perhaps in the past, but the FCC says Baxter is "generally" in compliance now. So why should he lose his license *now* ? Ummm, they are maneuvering here. That "general compliance" means that they are doing an end run around the broadcasting issue and prepping to go after him on the other issues. He ought to be a tad worried now. The broadcast issue was a sticking point, as there is a thin line between what he is doing and the ARRL reports. That sticking point has been negated. - Mike KB3EIA - |
Mike Coslo wrote:
That sticking point has been negated. - Mike KB3EIA - And BPL has been introduced. Every station for themselves. :) -- I won't retire, but I might retread. |
"Lloyd" wrote:
More fun than a barrel of monkeys. Throw out a few pieces of bait to the Baxter-Haters and watch them work themselves up into a hissy fit, complete with drooling & foamiing at the mouth. Too easy! Hook, Line, & Sinker! ROTFLMAO! 73, "Lloyd" a.k.a. Anon Leland has Riley's autograph. g -- I won't retire, but I might retread. |
Steveo wrote in message ...
"Lloyd" wrote: More fun than a barrel of monkeys. Throw out a few pieces of bait to the Baxter-Haters and watch them work themselves up into a hissy fit, complete with drooling & foamiing at the mouth. Too easy! Hook, Line, & Sinker! ROTFLMAO! 73, "Lloyd" a.k.a. Anon Leland has Riley's autograph. g Glenn Baxter truly is K-1-MANkind as his associate Mr. Murdock has often said. K1MAN is a kind person who only has the best interest of the hams of the entire world in his heart. His love of ham radio and those in it is truly god like. My admiration for him grows with each passing hour. My one wish would be for him to bring his leadership to where all the "good buddies" are, because he is so much like them. And that's a big 10-4! |
If anything was going to be done about the willfull interference, it would
have been done by now. With the exception of three individuals, all licensed hams, the same clown are still on and doing the same things. Dan/W4NTI "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Lloyd, Regardless, he has *not* totally cleaned up his act. My best thought would be to eliminate any kind of "broadcasting". The ARRL wouldn't care for that, obviously, but there are going to be more folks that feel if one person (or organization) can, then they can. They *can* indeed, if they follow the rules. But those with the attitudes that bother me are always 'pushing' the envelope. Either they are given carte blanc, or others start the same thing. In any event, the willful interference bothers me a *lot*. This has been getting worse over time and if not nipped in the bud, amateur radio might just as well be called amateur cb. Sorry, just my opinion. 73, Jim AA2QA "Lloyd" wrote in message ... Yet another nicely worded personal *opinion* but no one has yet to say *why* Baxter should lose his license. What has the current administration have to do with Baxter? 73, Lloyd --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.678 / Virus Database: 440 - Release Date: 5/6/04 |
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message link.net...
Actually JJ just repeated what the FCC said to Baxter. And just what does NORAD and FEMA have to do with it? They have about as much to do with it as JJ does. |
nd their well monied supporters have caused us
irreperable damage in the sight of the world acttually, I have read anti-American posts posted by people in the rest of the world even before 9/11 happened. And I don't mean just people just disagreeing with some American policies. These posters were anti-U.S. to the point of even disagreeing with what they theirselves had previously posted just so long as everything they said was anti-U.S. |
this thread surprises me, because as I remember, back in the early to mid-80's,
Glenn Baxter was one of the most respected ham radio operatorrs on ham radio. my, how times have changed. |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Yeah, that was quite a jump there, Dan! I think Jim learned that tactic from the neocons. I hear Rush and Anne do it all the time. And remember they are still blaming everything on Billary! Might as well get used to it. The libs have learned. - Mike KB3EIA - Hello, Mike Actually, that jump took since 1967 to form. My parents were Republicans. I was *going* to be (couldn't vote until you were 21 back then). I've seen what that kind of thinking can do. When I was in boot camp, someone got on the wrong side of someone. He was taken into the shower and when he came out (do *not* attempt to tell me otherwise - I was there and saw this kid when he came out of the shower), his lip was split and he had a nasty bruise on his forehead. This was company 43, Great Lakes, in 1967. I mentioned this to someone else and the guy laughed - "that was nothing. The next company over, some guy's shirt was dirty. They stripped him naked and scrubbed him over *every inch of his body* with a scrub brush!". The discription was actually more graphic than that, but I'm sure you get the idea. That second story I cannot confirm; but it finally got me to thinking. If we treat our own that way, how would we treat prisoners (from whom we wish to obtain information). Over 3 decades later, I have my answer. And a lot of non-thinkers screaming that it is nobody's fault. LOL The city mayor (a democrat) ran agains the county treasurer (a republican) last year. The republican said "no more taxes, no reduction in service". The democrat stated "anyone who thinks we can continue services and not raise taxes is either not telling the truth or they are kidding themselves." Of course, the republican won and became county manager. Aid was cut to the city (natch), but OMG - a *huge* deficit. They are going to borrow more funds. Their credit rating has been cut again (I think this is 5 reductions in credit rating in 6 years). Now the courts have ruled that in New York State, there is underfunding of poor school districts (surprise, surprise - all 8th graders in Mendon - a *high* income area nearby - got free laptop computers!). None of this has caught me by surprise. It isn't a matter of if; rather, when. So, go ahead and giggle in your self-rightousness. It isn't going to change what is happening and what will happen. Perhaps we *should* give away amateur licenses. Get some of those 20 KW class C amps up on 75 and 20 meters and out of 11 meters. Heck, if someone can afford to run a 20 KW rig, they should be entitled to do so, right? :)) You guys are a scream. Pardon me for not laughing. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.679 / Virus Database: 441 - Release Date: 5/7/04 |
Jim Hampton wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Yeah, that was quite a jump there, Dan! I think Jim learned that tactic from the neocons. I hear Rush and Anne do it all the time. And remember they are still blaming everything on Billary! Might as well get used to it. The libs have learned. - Mike KB3EIA - Hello, Mike Actually, that jump took since 1967 to form. My parents were Republicans. I was *going* to be (couldn't vote until you were 21 back then). I've seen what that kind of thinking can do. When I was in boot camp, someone got on the wrong side of someone. He was taken into the shower and when he came out (do *not* attempt to tell me otherwise - I was there and saw this kid when he came out of the shower), his lip was split and he had a nasty bruise on his forehead. This was company 43, Great Lakes, in 1967. I mentioned this to someone else and the guy laughed - "that was nothing. The next company over, some guy's shirt was dirty. They stripped him naked and scrubbed him over *every inch of his body* with a scrub brush!". The discription was actually more graphic than that, but I'm sure you get the idea. That second story I cannot confirm; but it finally got me to thinking. If we treat our own that way, how would we treat prisoners (from whom we wish to obtain information). Over 3 decades later, I have my answer. And a lot of non-thinkers screaming that it is nobody's fault. LOL Funny you should mention that. I was watching Hannity and Colmes the other night, and Hannity was coming up with a rationale for why the perps wre justified in treating those prisoners that way. Thought I'd puke. Then last night I go to the local Barnes and Noble, and I see he has a book out "Deliver us Fron Evil". That was amusing enough, but then I read a review (plug actually) on Thebookservice.com. One of his "Insights" as they called it was: "Why it's so difficult for liberals to see clearly on moral questions -- including the moral dimensions of the war on terror." The city mayor (a democrat) ran agains the county treasurer (a republican) last year. The republican said "no more taxes, no reduction in service". The democrat stated "anyone who thinks we can continue services and not raise taxes is either not telling the truth or they are kidding themselves." Of course, the republican won and became county manager. Aid was cut to the city (natch), but OMG - a *huge* deficit. They are going to borrow more funds. Their credit rating has been cut again (I think this is 5 reductions in credit rating in 6 years). Now the courts have ruled that in New York State, there is underfunding of poor school districts (surprise, surprise - all 8th graders in Mendon - a *high* income area nearby - got free laptop computers!). None of this has caught me by surprise. It isn't a matter of if; rather, when. So, go ahead and giggle in your self-rightousness. Hey, I'm not giggling. It isn't going to change what is happening and what will happen. Perhaps we *should* give away amateur licenses. Get some of those 20 KW class C amps up on 75 and 20 meters and out of 11 meters. Heck, if someone can afford to run a 20 KW rig, they should be entitled to do so, right? :)) You guys are a scream. Pardon me for not laughing. - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
... Jim Hampton wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Hello, Mike Actually, that jump took since 1967 to form. My parents were Republicans. I was *going* to be (couldn't vote until you were 21 back then). I've seen what that kind of thinking can do. When I was in boot camp, someone got on the wrong side of someone. He was taken into the shower and when he came out (do *not* attempt to tell me otherwise - I was there and saw this kid when he came out of the shower), his lip was split and he had a nasty bruise on his forehead. This was company 43, Great Lakes, in 1967. I mentioned this to someone else and the guy laughed - "that was nothing. The next company over, some guy's shirt was dirty. They stripped him naked and scrubbed him over *every inch of his body* with a scrub brush!". The discription was actually more graphic than that, but I'm sure you get the idea. That second story I cannot confirm; but it finally got me to thinking. If we treat our own that way, how would we treat prisoners (from whom we wish to obtain information). Over 3 decades later, I have my answer. And a lot of non-thinkers screaming that it is nobody's fault. LOL Funny you should mention that. I was watching Hannity and Colmes the other night, and Hannity was coming up with a rationale for why the perps wre justified in treating those prisoners that way. Thought I'd puke. Then last night I go to the local Barnes and Noble, and I see he has a book out "Deliver us Fron Evil". That was amusing enough, but then I read a review (plug actually) on Thebookservice.com. One of his "Insights" as they called it was: "Why it's so difficult for liberals to see clearly on moral questions -- including the moral dimensions of the war on terror." The city mayor (a democrat) ran agains the county treasurer (a republican) last year. The republican said "no more taxes, no reduction in service". The democrat stated "anyone who thinks we can continue services and not raise taxes is either not telling the truth or they are kidding themselves." Of course, the republican won and became county manager. Aid was cut to the city (natch), but OMG - a *huge* deficit. They are going to borrow more funds. Their credit rating has been cut again (I think this is 5 reductions in credit rating in 6 years). Now the courts have ruled that in New York State, there is underfunding of poor school districts (surprise, surprise - all 8th graders in Mendon - a *high* income area nearby - got free laptop computers!). None of this has caught me by surprise. It isn't a matter of if; rather, when. So, go ahead and giggle in your self-rightousness. Hey, I'm not giggling. It isn't going to change what is happening and what will happen. Perhaps we *should* give away amateur licenses. Get some of those 20 KW class C amps up on 75 and 20 meters and out of 11 meters. Heck, if someone can afford to run a 20 KW rig, they should be entitled to do so, right? :)) You guys are a scream. Pardon me for not laughing. - Mike KB3EIA - Sorry, Mike Guess this thing got my dander up just a tad. The most frustrating thing is that I can see something wrong, but I'm at a loss for an answer. Should a unit come under fire (and I've been combat stations aboard ship), everyone *has* to follow orders. Period. Lives depend upon it. So, the military wants to weed out folks that aren't suited for military life, and some problems occur. What the proper answer is beats the heck out of me. Certainly, in civilian life, we should at least be civil - even if we don't agree ;) I guess that the actions of a few amateurs I would not consider at all "considerate" and I'm not too certain about "civil" either. Off my soap box (finally - LOL) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.679 / Virus Database: 441 - Release Date: 5/7/04 |
OT, so to speak. What ever happened to the K1MAN thing? When I got re-activated several years ago, I happened across his 'casts on the air, then the Riley activities, then nothing...or at least I missed it. -- Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's. |
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