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John Lyder May 8th 04 08:51 PM

U.S. IMMIGRATION TO RAID NJ (Hudson County. ).
 
This some kinda hoax ?

Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.
http://www.halturnershow.com/modules... der=0&thold=0


Michael Bryant May 8th 04 09:12 PM

From: "John Lyder"

Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.

http://www.halturnershow.com/modules...icle&sid=35&mo
de=&order=0&thold=0

Another example of the ways the Patriot Act will be extended to accomplish
virtually any purpose the gov't wants.











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N8KDV May 8th 04 09:48 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: "John Lyder"


Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.

http://www.halturnershow.com/modules...icle&sid=35&mo
de=&order=0&thold=0

Another example of the ways the Patriot Act will be extended to accomplish
virtually any purpose the gov't wants.


You don't think illegal immigrants should be deported?


Soames123 May 8th 04 09:56 PM

- Some Right Wing
Milatoon
Jerk-Off Fantasy...


This some kinda hoax ?

Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.

http://www.halturnershow.com/modules...icle&sid=35&mo

de=&order=0&thold=0




Soames123 May 8th 04 09:58 PM

Enemy Combatants, My Ass...
They Ain't Gonna Do No **** like that in Hudson County;
- Just bus em in, register em as Republicans & turn em loose...




From: "John Lyder"


Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.

http://www.halturnershow.com/modules...icle&sid=35&mo
de=&order=0&thold=0

Another example of the ways the Patriot Act will be extended to accomplish
virtually any purpose the gov't wants.











Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
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Soames123 May 8th 04 09:59 PM

You don't think illegal immigrants should be deported?

No..
Juststrip em nekked
put em on dog leashes & walk em around..

Michael Bryant May 8th 04 10:07 PM

From: N8KDV

You don't think illegal immigrants should be deported?


Not by declaring them enemy combatants under the Patriot Act.


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Louisville, KY
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N8KDV May 8th 04 10:13 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


You don't think illegal immigrants should be deported?


Not by declaring them enemy combatants under the Patriot Act.


Sure... you'd rather have them registered as Democrats, right?



T. Early May 8th 04 10:17 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "John Lyder"


Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at

major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found

in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the

USA PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved

with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.


http://www.halturnershow.com/modules...=article&sid=3
5&mo
de=&order=0&thold=0

Another example of the ways the Patriot Act will be extended to

accomplish
virtually any purpose the gov't wants.


How can it be another example of -anything- until we know the ins and
outs of the whole thing, or even whether it's true or not. Geeez,
look at the source. Isn't it really more another example of jumping
to conclusions about the law to satisfy a preconception?



Michael Bryant May 8th 04 10:24 PM

From: N8KDV

You don't think illegal immigrants should be deported?


Not by declaring them enemy combatants under the Patriot Act.


Sure... you'd rather have them registered as Democrats, right?


So, you have no problem with extending the Patriot Act to declare all criminals
enemy combatants?


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
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Frank Dresser May 8th 04 10:26 PM


"John Lyder" wrote in message
...
This some kinda hoax ?

Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA

PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.

http://www.halturnershow.com/modules...e&sid=35&mode=
&order=0&thold=0

Oh, sure. Hal Turner is an ex-shortwave broadcaster. Who could be more
credible than that?

Frank Dresser



N8KDV May 8th 04 10:31 PM



Michael 'Boy am I dumb today!' Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


You don't think illegal immigrants should be deported?


Not by declaring them enemy combatants under the Patriot Act.


Sure... you'd rather have them registered as Democrats, right?


So, you have no problem with extending the Patriot Act to declare all criminals
enemy combatants?


Especially those drug users who lie about a PhD!



Elmer Thudd May 9th 04 12:54 AM

Michael Bryant wrote:
From: N8KDV


You don't think illegal immigrants should be deported?


Not by declaring them enemy combatants under the Patriot Act.


Well, don't worry - it isn't going to happen.
The Hal Turner show is full-blooded honest-to-goodness nazi propaganda
garbage.

If someone tells you something is on Hal Turner's site, you can rest
assured it is nothing but B.S.

Though I'm all in favor of deporting all illegals, using "enemy
combatant" definition would never fly, not should it.

HipBot May 9th 04 03:35 AM


"John Lyder" wrote in message
...
This some kinda hoax ?

Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA

PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.
http://www.halturnershow.com/modules.php?


TRUST ME when I tell you, if it originated from halturnershow.com
is't either a) 100% pure BullShi+ b) Racist propaganda or
c) a combination of a) and b) above.

Remember we are talking about H.T. here folks.
A guy who likely is addicted to Oxycontinin and
is likely also the 'poster boy' for all white trash
broadcaser wanabees on domestic shortwave radio.



Brian Denley May 9th 04 04:55 AM

-=jd=- wrote:

The key word here is *Illegal*, as in "Illegal Aliens". Not Bob the
WWII vet down the block. Not you. Not John. Not Aunt Sally... Unless

-=jd=-


No the key word here is Hal Turner. Why the hell are you all taking
anything he writes as a point for discussion? Are you all nuts?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



RHF May 9th 04 10:48 AM

MWB,

Once Again ... You are Incredible. {Simply Incredulous :}

MWB - To take a 'news source' like "www.halturnershow.com"
and turn it into a basis of FACT for another of one of your
Wild Ass Exaggerations.

"Another example of the ways the Patriot Act will be extended
to accomplish virtually any purpose the gov't wants."

MWB - Nay what we have is 'Another example of the ways
that "MWB" will extend his personal reality to accomplish
virtually any purpose that his wrapped mind wants.'

MWB - We await another Liberal LIE . . .

MWB - We await another Leftist DISTORTION . . .

MWB - Give Us Something to Think About {Boggle Our Minds !} ~ RHF
..
..
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...
From: "John Lyder"


Tanks on Flatbeds and Bradley fighting vehicles pre-positioned at major
entry/exit points around Hudson County. . any illegal alien found in this
massive round-up will be declared an "enemy combatant" under the USA PATRIOT
act. This declaration will void all the usual "red-tape" involved with
deportations! Illegal aliens will be deported from the U.S. without
administrative hearing within 48 hours of being captured.

http://www.halturnershow.com/modules...icle&sid=35&mo
de=&order=0&thold=0

Another example of the ways the Patriot Act will be extended to accomplish
virtually any purpose the gov't wants.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)


Stinger May 9th 04 08:58 PM

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
MWB,

Once Again ... You are Incredible. {Simply Incredulous :}

MWB - To take a 'news source' like "www.halturnershow.com"
and turn it into a basis of FACT for another of one of your
Wild Ass Exaggerations.

"Another example of the ways the Patriot Act will be extended
to accomplish virtually any purpose the gov't wants."

MWB - Nay what we have is 'Another example of the ways
that "MWB" will extend his personal reality to accomplish
virtually any purpose that his wrapped mind wants.'

MWB - We await another Liberal LIE . . .

MWB - We await another Leftist DISTORTION . . .

MWB - Give Us Something to Think About {Boggle Our Minds !} ~ RHF
.


Unfortunately true, but not just for Michael.

I find that a huge amount of liberal rhetoric is based around "facts" that
aren't (actually) facts! If these guys think that something will help make
their case, they will fabricate facts, credentials, or anecdotes at the drop
of a hat.

Besides Michael's oft-discussed "Ph.D.", here's another case-in-point: Some
enviro-goofball called in to Rush Limbaugh's show, and began ranting about
how SUV's are ruining the environment, etc., and then said that he's doing
his part because he owns a Honda Prius, a hybrid gas/electric vehicle.

Then Rush explained to the dumbass that the Prius hybrid vehicle is made by
Toyota.

-- Stinger




Michael Bryant May 9th 04 09:31 PM

From: "Stinger"

Unfortunately true, but not just for Michael.

I find that a huge amount of liberal rhetoric is based around "facts" that
aren't (actually) facts! If these guys think that something will help make
their case, they will fabricate facts, credentials, or anecdotes at the drop
of a hat.

Besides Michael's oft-discussed "Ph.D."\


Look, Stingy, why don't you indict the neo-con idiots that jumped in to defend
the expansion of Patriot Act powers to round up illegal aliens as enemy
combatants. A huge amount of neo-con rhetoric is based around twisting any
"fact" into an irrational defense of Bush's attempt to emasculate our
constitution. All I was saying was if this was true, it was a very bad sign. I
failed to detect that it was from Hal Turner, a former Republican candidate for
Congress in New Jersey. (Wow, I thought you neocons thought most racists were
Democrats??)

And before your mood and interpersonal skills take the daily swing you've shown
consistently in here, could YOU prove that you own a factory in Mississippi?
Your backchannels, all friendly, seemed to accept my educational credentials.
Why do you act so differently when prancing in public? That doesn't make you,
as a neo-con, appear very stable....

Would you like to re-print what you said about the people indicting my
educational credentials? I hate to violate your private communications with,
but I WILL hold you to some rational level of consistency.

Right, guy?

, here's another case-in-point: Some
enviro-goofball called in to Rush Limbaugh's show, and began ranting about
how SUV's are ruining the environment, etc., and then said that he's doing
his part because he owns a Honda Prius, a hybrid gas/electric vehicle.

Then Rush explained to the dumbass that the Prius hybrid vehicle is made by
Toyota.


So what? Does that disprove either the enviro-damage caused by SUVs or the
eco-sanity of hybrid cars? Refutation by diversion is becoming a big tactic of
an awful lot of neocons. I'm really really interested in your FACTS on
comparing the eco-damage caused by SUVs vs. hybrids, as opposed to your
personal indictments.

Dude, there are meds that will even out those mood swings!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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Brenda Ann Dyer May 9th 04 09:58 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...


So what? Does that disprove either the enviro-damage caused by SUVs or the
eco-sanity of hybrid cars? Refutation by diversion is becoming a big

tactic of
an awful lot of neocons. I'm really really interested in your FACTS on
comparing the eco-damage caused by SUVs vs. hybrids, as opposed to your
personal indictments.



I believe the point being made in that bit of apocrypha is that the caller
was likely lying, since if he owned a Prius, he would most likely know who
built it..




N8KDV May 9th 04 10:08 PM



Michael 'I can't stop my bull**** for even one day!' Bryant wrote:

From: "Stinger"


Unfortunately true, but not just for Michael.

I find that a huge amount of liberal rhetoric is based around "facts" that
aren't (actually) facts! If these guys think that something will help make
their case, they will fabricate facts, credentials, or anecdotes at the drop
of a hat.

Besides Michael's oft-discussed "Ph.D."\


Look, Stingy, why don't you indict the neo-con idiots that jumped in to defend
the expansion of Patriot Act powers to round up illegal aliens as enemy
combatants. A huge amount of neo-con rhetoric is based around twisting any
"fact" into an irrational defense of Bush's attempt to emasculate our
constitution. All I was saying was if this was true, it was a very bad sign. I
failed to detect that it was from Hal Turner, a former Republican candidate for
Congress in New Jersey. (Wow, I thought you neocons thought most racists were
Democrats??)

And before your mood and interpersonal skills take the daily swing you've shown
consistently in here, could YOU prove that you own a factory in Mississippi?
Your backchannels, all friendly, seemed to accept my educational credentials.
Why do you act so differently when prancing in public? That doesn't make you,
as a neo-con, appear very stable....

Would you like to re-print what you said about the people indicting my
educational credentials? I hate to violate your private communications with,
but I WILL hold you to some rational level of consistency.

Right, guy?

, here's another case-in-point: Some
enviro-goofball called in to Rush Limbaugh's show, and began ranting about
how SUV's are ruining the environment, etc., and then said that he's doing
his part because he owns a Honda Prius, a hybrid gas/electric vehicle.

Then Rush explained to the dumbass that the Prius hybrid vehicle is made by
Toyota.


So what? Does that disprove either the enviro-damage caused by SUVs or the
eco-sanity of hybrid cars? Refutation by diversion is becoming a big tactic of
an awful lot of neocons. I'm really really interested in your FACTS on
comparing the eco-damage caused by SUVs vs. hybrids, as opposed to your
personal indictments.

Dude, there are meds that will even out those mood swings!


And you should be taking them Fat Boy!

Academic credentials? All yours are suspect! You don't have a PhD, and yet you lied
about it!

You gonna lie on Mother's Day Fat Boy? Come on, tell us some lies on Mother's Day!



Michael Bryant May 9th 04 10:40 PM

From: N8KDV

You gonna lie on Mother's Day Fat Boy? Come on, tell us some lies on Mother's
Day!


Here's a lie: Once again, you're showing us what a gentleman you are!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
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Michael Bryant May 9th 04 10:44 PM

From: "Brenda Ann Dyer"

I believe the point being made in that bit of apocrypha is that the caller
was likely lying, since if he owned a Prius, he would most likely know who
built it..


And my point is that whether or not he owned one or got momentarily confused
(it took me a long time to stop calling my new Taurus a Sable, they look
identical) the FACTS about the relative ecological impacts of an an SUV vs. a
hybrid are hard to deny. Denying them by attacking the caller sems
diversionary.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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Bill Everhart May 10th 04 04:23 AM

On Sun, 9 May 2004 17:09:13 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

As I mentioned previously, I do have some close liberal friends, but we all
know how to discuss things based on facts, not fiction -- and we're each
capable of agreeing when the other makes a good point.


Curious Stinger - what liberal points have you recently agreed with?

RHF May 10th 04 01:19 PM

MWB,

Any Carbon-Based Fuel System causes Environment Problems.
* Fossilized Carbon-Based Fuels {Dead}
* Living Carbon Fuels {Trees, Charcoal, ETC}

MWB - You 'chant' the "Mantra" of the Ultra Liberal Democrats.
* SUV's and SUV Drivers - Environmental Criminals

MWB - Yes 'pollution' is in-fact a World Wide Problem
.. . . but "Eliminating" SUVs in the USofA will NOT solve it [.]

MWB - It is my understanding that by the year 2020 the actual
majority of the so called Global Warming "Green House Gases"
resulting from the use of Carbon-Based Fuels will be generated
by three countries: China, India and Indonesia.

MWB - NOT from the Automobiles or Power Plants in the USofA but
simply from the common people of those countries burning Living
Carbon-Based Fuels to Heat their Homes and Cook their Food.

MWB - People Gota Live...
Or would you suggest that we start with THOSE PEOPLE !
* Shall They Freeze ?
* Shall They Starve ?
* Shall They Simply Be Eliminated ?
All in the 'name' of "Protecting the Planet" from People !

MWB - The one power source that can produce sufficient qualities
Of power and produces the least long term Environment Problems
is Hydro-Power. Plus it provides many other social benefits:
Flood Control; Water Management for Wild Life and Recreation;
and Clean Water for Agriculture and People. But Hydro-Power is
being blocked by the same Ultra-Liberal Environmental Extremist
who label SUV Drivers as Environmental Criminals.


Just another Environmentally Friendly Conservative ~ RHF
..
..
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...


- - - - - S N I P - - - - -

So what? Does that disprove either the enviro-damage caused
by SUVs or the eco-sanity of hybrid cars?


MWB - SUVs are Polluters "Big Time"
.. . . but Hybrid Cars are 'still' Polluters, just not so 'big time'.

MWB - Private Jets like John 'ff' Kerry and his Wife fly around in
are some of the Biggest Polluters of any means of Transportation.

MWB - So, is John 'ff' Kerry an Environmental MEGA Criminal ? ? ? ?

- - - - - S N I P - - - - -
..
..
Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
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..

Stinger May 11th 04 12:27 AM


"Bill Everhart" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 May 2004 17:09:13 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

As I mentioned previously, I do have some close liberal friends, but we

all
know how to discuss things based on facts, not fiction -- and we're each
capable of agreeing when the other makes a good point.


Curious Stinger - what liberal points have you recently agreed with?


Bill,

Lets see... umm....uh.......hmmm....... ;^)

They were points of discussion like "too many special interests in
Washington," or the need for better education, etc. Not ideologies, just
points that made sense.

-- Stinger



Bill Everhart May 11th 04 02:21 AM

On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:27:52 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:


"Bill Everhart" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 9 May 2004 17:09:13 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

As I mentioned previously, I do have some close liberal friends, but we

all
know how to discuss things based on facts, not fiction -- and we're each
capable of agreeing when the other makes a good point.


Curious Stinger - what liberal points have you recently agreed with?


Bill,

Lets see... umm....uh.......hmmm....... ;^)

They were points of discussion like "too many special interests in
Washington," or the need for better education, etc. Not ideologies, just
points that made sense.

-- Stinger


So you don't actually ever get convinced of anything? Right?

Stinger May 11th 04 03:32 AM


"Bill Everhart" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:27:52 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:


"Bill Everhart" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 9 May 2004 17:09:13 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

As I mentioned previously, I do have some close liberal friends, but

we
all
know how to discuss things based on facts, not fiction -- and we're

each
capable of agreeing when the other makes a good point.

Curious Stinger - what liberal points have you recently agreed with?


Bill,

Lets see... umm....uh.......hmmm....... ;^)

They were points of discussion like "too many special interests in
Washington," or the need for better education, etc. Not ideologies, just
points that made sense.

-- Stinger


So you don't actually ever get convinced of anything? Right?


"Anything" covers an awful lot of territory. Many times (for instance),
we're discussing the relative merits of various politicians, both Republican
and Democrat. I don't line up on the Republican side every time.

The bottom line is that it can be fun, lighthearted, and not the least bit
offensive, even when you disagree. Wouldn't you agree?

-- Stinger

-- Stinger




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