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Auto Shortwave Converter Question?
I am hooked on shortwave.
I have killed my TV a long time ago and now even NPR has become affiliated with Clearchannel® and it's reflected in the programming. =-0=========b l e c h == So since I've found out my shortwave radio comes in as good as you can expect by clipping a wire to the bike (almost anywhere) I started to take a TECSUN PL 230 with me in the car,and have been strapping it to the sunroof(with the armband part of an old sports AM FM radio ) handle and was listening to SW in my car a lot. As long as the antenna is sticking out of the sunroof it comes in pretty good. So ....I sold this car and the new one doesn't have a sunroof. =-( I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave. (Especially on weekends WBCQ) I looked for shortwave radios for cars because someone I know used to have British sportscars and said that they often had shortwave radios. I also saw Mercedes had shortwave converters o ebay. But I don't have a Mercedes =-( Then there was a Subaru radio that had SW. But I don't think it would fit in my car. So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits (and I know someone who could build it for me) But he says that this would nly be able to pick up 2 stations. I have old radios here with SW and they have SW1 and SW2 ... So they seem to get pretty much everything. So my question is.... Has anybody ever tried these converters,and will they be able to get the whole SW1 and SW2 ? (Like from 2.3 to 23.0 ?) If so I'm buying one. This is one of them from a google search. http://www.outpost.com/product/1743108 They all look pretty much the same. I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car. (PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio. (I still have never had cabal TV or Sad-ellite) Paying for TV and now radio sets a bad example for broadcasters. --------------------------------- Kill Your Television TurnOffYourTV.com http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/ The Kill Your TV Website http://www2.localaccess.com/hardebeck/ |
ex_cathedra wrote:
I am hooked on shortwave. I have killed my TV a long time ago and now even NPR has become affiliated with Clearchannel® and it's reflected in the programming. =-0=========b l e c h == So since I've found out my shortwave radio comes in as good as you can expect by clipping a wire to the bike (almost anywhere) I started to take a TECSUN PL 230 with me in the car,and have been strapping it to the sunroof(with the armband part of an old sports AM FM radio ) handle and was listening to SW in my car a lot. As long as the antenna is sticking out of the sunroof it comes in pretty good. So ....I sold this car and the new one doesn't have a sunroof. =-( I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave. (Especially on weekends WBCQ) I looked for shortwave radios for cars because someone I know used to have British sportscars and said that they often had shortwave radios. I also saw Mercedes had shortwave converters o ebay. But I don't have a Mercedes =-( Then there was a Subaru radio that had SW. But I don't think it would fit in my car. So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits (and I know someone who could build it for me) But he says that this would nly be able to pick up 2 stations. I have old radios here with SW and they have SW1 and SW2 ... So they seem to get pretty much everything. So my question is.... Has anybody ever tried these converters,and will they be able to get the whole SW1 and SW2 ? (Like from 2.3 to 23.0 ?) If so I'm buying one. This is one of them from a google search. http://www.outpost.com/product/1743108 They all look pretty much the same. I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car. (PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio. (I still have never had cabal TV or Sad-ellite) Paying for TV and now radio sets a bad example for broadcasters. Unless you need stereo, cassette, CD changer control etc. hang out at some swap meets for old German cars. might be able to pick up an old Becker unit for under $100. In fact, I may do that myself... just saw one in an old Studebaker last show I went to and my immediate reaction was "that's freaking cool!" nate -- go dry to reply. http://www.toad.net/~njnagel |
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aside from the fact that it ain't free anymore...
nate David wrote: Get Sirius satellite. It has BBC World Service News 24/7 plus the World Radio Network schedule of international broadcasters. HF broadcasting is near death. Satellite is where it's at for cultural diversity. http://www.wrn.org. http://www.sirius.com/servlet/Conten...d=996089493678 http://www.sirius.com/servlet/Conten...d=996089493740 Kudos for kicking TV! On 15 May 2004 18:43:09 -0700, (ex_cathedra) wrote: I am hooked on shortwave. I have killed my TV a long time ago and now even NPR has become affiliated with Clearchannel® and it's reflected in the programming. =-0=========b l e c h == So since I've found out my shortwave radio comes in as good as you can expect by clipping a wire to the bike (almost anywhere) I started to take a TECSUN PL 230 with me in the car,and have been strapping it to the sunroof(with the armband part of an old sports AM FM radio ) handle and was listening to SW in my car a lot. As long as the antenna is sticking out of the sunroof it comes in pretty good. So ....I sold this car and the new one doesn't have a sunroof. =-( I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave. (Especially on weekends WBCQ) I looked for shortwave radios for cars because someone I know used to have British sportscars and said that they often had shortwave radios. I also saw Mercedes had shortwave converters o ebay. But I don't have a Mercedes =-( Then there was a Subaru radio that had SW. But I don't think it would fit in my car. So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits (and I know someone who could build it for me) But he says that this would nly be able to pick up 2 stations. I have old radios here with SW and they have SW1 and SW2 ... So they seem to get pretty much everything. So my question is.... Has anybody ever tried these converters,and will they be able to get the whole SW1 and SW2 ? (Like from 2.3 to 23.0 ?) If so I'm buying one. This is one of them from a google search. http://www.outpost.com/product/1743108 They all look pretty much the same. I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car. (PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio. (I still have never had cabal TV or Sad-ellite) Paying for TV and now radio sets a bad example for broadcasters. --------------------------------- Kill Your Television TurnOffYourTV.com http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/ The Kill Your TV Website http://www2.localaccess.com/hardebeck/ -- go dry to reply. http://www.toad.net/~njnagel |
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Look into the MFJ-306. It is a short wave converter which works with
the AM section of your car radio. It is not a kit and is very easy to install in a car. It works quite well and is relatively inexpensive (under $100). It picks up the entire 49, 31, 25, and 19 meter bands. Unfortunately it does not receive the 41 meter band (so no WBCQ on 7415); I don't know whether this will preclude your having interest in this unit. I have one and I like it. You can buy it direct from MFJ or from Universal. Lawrence (ex_cathedra) wrote in message . com... I am hooked on shortwave. I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave. (Especially on weekends WBCQ) So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits and I know someone who could build it for me) But he says that this would only be able to pick up 2 stations. I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car. (PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio. |
You're kidding, right?
Gonna hang an R-8B under the dash like a FrigiKing aftermarket air conditioner out of the J. C. Whitney catalog? People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static and flanging. On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:44:30 GMT, Tony P. wrote: In article , says... aside from the fact that it ain't free anymore... There are lots of high end communications receivers that mount very nicely in cars. They are made by cos. like Yaesu, Kenwood etc. They aren't cheap - probably start around $500 but you can listen to everything. |
On Mon, 17 May 2004, David wrote:
People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static and flanging. Not to mention the fact that countries are going off shortwave wholesale. BBC's gone, India's gone, Ausria's almost gone...guess if you want to hear China, you can do that... |
Sony radios are cheap and you get the usual bands + SW. I have something
similar to this in my Integra. It's a pain to tune (though you can preset a total of 12 stations in the upper and lower SW bands). Also ignition noise could be an issue depending on the antenna placement and noise rejection techniques used. Go to the bottom of the link. http://www.durhamradio.com/shortwave-sony.htm "ex_cathedra" wrote in message om... I am hooked on shortwave. I have killed my TV a long time ago and now even NPR has become affiliated with Clearchannel® and it's reflected in the programming. =-0=========b l e c h == So since I've found out my shortwave radio comes in as good as you can expect by clipping a wire to the bike (almost anywhere) I started to take a TECSUN PL 230 with me in the car,and have been strapping it to the sunroof(with the armband part of an old sports AM FM radio ) handle and was listening to SW in my car a lot. As long as the antenna is sticking out of the sunroof it comes in pretty good. So ....I sold this car and the new one doesn't have a sunroof. =-( I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave. (Especially on weekends WBCQ) I looked for shortwave radios for cars because someone I know used to have British sportscars and said that they often had shortwave radios. I also saw Mercedes had shortwave converters o ebay. But I don't have a Mercedes =-( Then there was a Subaru radio that had SW. But I don't think it would fit in my car. So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits (and I know someone who could build it for me) But he says that this would nly be able to pick up 2 stations. I have old radios here with SW and they have SW1 and SW2 ... So they seem to get pretty much everything. So my question is.... Has anybody ever tried these converters,and will they be able to get the whole SW1 and SW2 ? (Like from 2.3 to 23.0 ?) If so I'm buying one. This is one of them from a google search. http://www.outpost.com/product/1743108 They all look pretty much the same. I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car. (PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio. (I still have never had cabal TV or Sad-ellite) Paying for TV and now radio sets a bad example for broadcasters. --------------------------------- Kill Your Television TurnOffYourTV.com http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/ The Kill Your TV Website http://www2.localaccess.com/hardebeck/ |
On Tue, 18 May 2004, S Narayan wrote:
Sony radios are cheap In every sense of the word. Sony = garbage. |
I notice you're crossposting to three autos-related newsgroups
(rec.autos.driving, misc. and tech), so I must assume you're talking about car audio. I'll have to take your word for Sony not excelling against some of the big-name mobile audio receivers. However, you also posted on "rec.radio.shortwave," where the general consensus is that Sony manufactured some of the finest portable "World Band" receivers ever made. -- Stinger "Daniel J. Stern" wrote in message .umich.edu... On Tue, 18 May 2004, S Narayan wrote: Sony radios are cheap In every sense of the word. Sony = garbage. |
"Daniel J. Stern" wrote in message .umich.edu... On Tue, 18 May 2004, S Narayan wrote: Sony radios are cheap In every sense of the word. Sony = garbage. Cheap = inexpensive, that's what I meant with regards to Sony SW radios. On the other hand, Sony makes radios for various consumer markets and I am sure there are some which are garbage. The Sony ICF-2010 which was manufactured first in 1985 was one of the best portables out there and was only discontinued a couple of years ago. If you knew anything about SW radio, you wouldn't make the blanket coment you did and cross post this to rec.radio.shortwave. |
In article ch.edu,
says... On Tue, 18 May 2004, S Narayan wrote: Sony radios are cheap In every sense of the word. Sony = garbage. No doubt. I've got a Sony Dream Machine and the front end rejection on it is crap. Even though it's tuned via PLL you still get to hear the strongest stations near the one you want to listen to instead of the one you want to listen to. |
i have experience with converters. i even built one with eight crystal
sockets to cover several bands! just calculate the crystal needed to cover whatever you want to hear. my advise is to keep your portable and put your time into rigging an outside antenna for your car, perhaps a modified cb antenna. the converters work but are a pain to calculate what frequency you are on. the portable radio will beat it on convenience and performance, no matter how cheap it is. |
"Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
Not to mention the fact that countries are going off shortwave wholesale. BBC's gone, India's gone, Ausria's almost gone...guess if you want to hear China, you can do that... I don't know what you're using for a shortwave receiver but I'm still hearing the BBC and India just fine. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
David wrote:
You're kidding, right? Gonna hang an R-8B under the dash like a FrigiKing aftermarket air conditioner out of the J. C. Whitney catalog? People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static and flanging. On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:44:30 GMT, Tony P. wrote: In article , says... aside from the fact that it ain't free anymore... There are lots of high end communications receivers that mount very nicely in cars. They are made by cos. like Yaesu, Kenwood etc. They aren't cheap - probably start around $500 but you can listen to everything. No he wasn't kidding. I use a Drake SW8 in the car with a roof mounted whip antenna. I run the audio through the car stereo. Works great. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
On Tue, 18 May 2004, S Narayan wrote:
Sony radios are cheap In every sense of the word. Sony = garbage. Sony makes radios for various consumer markets and I am sure there are some which are garbage. The Sony ICF-2010 which was manufactured first in 1985 was one of the best portables out there I agree, I had one. But guess what, Mr. Van Winkle: This is not 1985. DS |
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Stinger wrote:
consensus is that Sony manufactured some of the finest portable "World Band" receivers ever made. No debate, they did, but since we don't live in the past and must evaluate a manufacturer based on its present-day output, I stand by my original statement. DS |
I bet the chicks really dig it...
On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:06:21 -0400, starman wrote: David wrote: You're kidding, right? Gonna hang an R-8B under the dash like a FrigiKing aftermarket air conditioner out of the J. C. Whitney catalog? People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static and flanging. On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:44:30 GMT, Tony P. wrote: In article , says... aside from the fact that it ain't free anymore... There are lots of high end communications receivers that mount very nicely in cars. They are made by cos. like Yaesu, Kenwood etc. They aren't cheap - probably start around $500 but you can listen to everything. No he wasn't kidding. I use a Drake SW8 in the car with a roof mounted whip antenna. I run the audio through the car stereo. Works great. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
"Daniel J. Stern" wrote in message in.umich.edu...
On Mon, 17 May 2004, David wrote: People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static and flanging. Not to mention the fact that countries are going off shortwave wholesale. BBC's gone, India's gone, Ausria's almost gone...guess if you want to hear China, you can do that... I can pretty much find stuff to listen to 6am till midnight... Late at night theres Aussie radio... I can handle a little static. It was no problem listening to a PL230 strapped to my sunroof handle till I sold that car. Now I have no sunroof. I was just wonderin if it would work. (the converter) I have steering wheel radio controls so I don't want to redesign the whole car. Or get a new steering wheel.... I really wouldn't mind the FrigiKing look. (It's really not all that big anyway) Status,style,prestige,impressing the herd and cutting edge hi-tech mean very little to me. Sad-o-light radio costs money. Perhaps if people refused to pay for television,cabal TV would have been free. ( I've see idiots paying $80.00 a month to get their brains constipated !) And what do they get for that? They get to pay for Dizzney wether they watch it or not. (And feed the rat) or they are forced to foot the bill for mind numbing gladitorial sports stations wether they watch them or not. Nope.... Poo poo on XM Thanx anyway! |
"Daniel J. Stern" wrote in message in.umich.edu...
On Mon, 17 May 2004, David wrote: People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static and flanging. Not to mention the fact that countries are going off shortwave wholesale. BBC's gone, India's gone, Ausria's almost gone...guess if you want to hear China, you can do that... I can pretty much find stuff to listen to 6am till midnight... Late at night theres Aussie radio... I can handle a little static. It was no problem listening to a PL230 strapped to my sunroof handle till I sold that car. Now I have no sunroof. I was just wonderin if it would work. (the converter) I have steering wheel radio controls so I don't want to redesign the whole car. Or get a new steering wheel.... I really wouldn't mind the FrigiKing look. (It's really not all that big anyway) Status,style,prestige,impressing the herd and cutting edge hi-tech mean very little to me. Sad-o-light radio costs money. Perhaps if people refused to pay for television,cabal TV would have been free. ( I've see idiots paying $80.00 a month to get their brains constipated !) And what do they get for that? They get to pay for Dizzney wether they watch it or not. (And feed the rat) or they are forced to foot the bill for mind numbing gladitorial sports stations wether they watch them or not. Nope.... Poo poo on XM Thanx anyway! |
David wrote in message . ..
I bet the chicks really dig it... I'm a chick. And....I dig Johhny Lightning!(and Tim Tron) But perhaps most J-Low loving bimbo's wouldn't . (Which is cool) It's more fun to swim with the salmons! On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:06:21 -0400, starman wrote: David wrote: You're kidding, right? Gonna hang an R-8B under the dash like a FrigiKing aftermarket air conditioner out of the J. C. Whitney catalog? People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static and flanging. On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:44:30 GMT, Tony P. wrote: In article , says... aside from the fact that it ain't free anymore... There are lots of high end communications receivers that mount very nicely in cars. They are made by cos. like Yaesu, Kenwood etc. They aren't cheap - probably start around $500 but you can listen to everything. No he wasn't kidding. I use a Drake SW8 in the car with a roof mounted whip antenna. I run the audio through the car stereo. Works great. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
(Lawrence H. Bulk) wrote in message om...
Look into the MFJ-306. It is a short wave converter which works with the AM section of your car radio. It is not a kit and is very easy to install in a car. It works quite well and is relatively inexpensive (under $100). It picks up the entire 49, 31, 25, and 19 meter bands. Unfortunately it does not receive the 41 meter band (so no WBCQ on 7415); I don't know whether this will preclude your having interest in this unit. I have one and I like it. You can buy it direct from MFJ or from Universal. Thanks! (It could be worth looking into) But I do like the BCQ on the weekends... (I wonder ...I have an antenna input on my Tecsun PL230 but it's a small plug perhaps some kind of antenna adapter and getting it hooked up to the car antenna?) Hmmm I tried to clip a wire to the antenna and hung a wire out of the sunroof when I first started taking my shortwave in the other car but it was all buzzy before strapping it to the sunroof handle and getting the regualr antenna out of the car. Lawrence (ex_cathedra) wrote in message . com... I am hooked on shortwave. I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave. (Especially on weekends WBCQ) So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits and I know someone who could build it for me) But he says that this would only be able to pick up 2 stations. I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car. (PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio. |
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"S Narayan" wrote in message ...
Sony radios are cheap and you get the usual bands + SW. I have something similar to this in my Integra. It's a pain to tune (though you can preset a total of 12 stations in the upper and lower SW bands). Also ignition noise could be an issue depending on the antenna placement and noise rejection techniques used. Go to the bottom of the link. http://www.durhamradio.com/shortwave-sony.htm Thanks ! That one looks pretty cool! I looked it up on google and saw one for only $189 If all else fails (all my radio controls are on my steerig wheel in this car) this one could be good,but my steering wheel might not like it =-) "ex_cathedra" wrote in message om... I am hooked on shortwave. I have killed my TV a long time ago and now even NPR has become affiliated with Clearchannel® and it's reflected in the programming. =-0=========b l e c h == So since I've found out my shortwave radio comes in as good as you can expect by clipping a wire to the bike (almost anywhere) I started to take a TECSUN PL 230 with me in the car,and have been strapping it to the sunroof(with the armband part of an old sports AM FM radio ) handle and was listening to SW in my car a lot. As long as the antenna is sticking out of the sunroof it comes in pretty good. So ....I sold this car and the new one doesn't have a sunroof. =-( I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave. (Especially on weekends WBCQ) I looked for shortwave radios for cars because someone I know used to have British sportscars and said that they often had shortwave radios. I also saw Mercedes had shortwave converters o ebay. But I don't have a Mercedes =-( Then there was a Subaru radio that had SW. But I don't think it would fit in my car. So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits (and I know someone who could build it for me) But he says that this would nly be able to pick up 2 stations. I have old radios here with SW and they have SW1 and SW2 ... So they seem to get pretty much everything. So my question is.... Has anybody ever tried these converters,and will they be able to get the whole SW1 and SW2 ? (Like from 2.3 to 23.0 ?) If so I'm buying one. This is one of them from a google search. http://www.outpost.com/product/1743108 They all look pretty much the same. I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car. (PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio. (I still have never had cabal TV or Sad-ellite) Paying for TV and now radio sets a bad example for broadcasters. --------------------------------- Kill Your Television TurnOffYourTV.com http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/ The Kill Your TV Website http://www2.localaccess.com/hardebeck/ |
"ex_cathedra" wrote | I tried clipping a wire from the antenna (not the external antenna | input) to an old magnetic cb antenna we had laying around in the | garage with my steel car. | It worked great till I brought the radio inside the car =-( | Once that antenna gets inside the car out goes the reception. The best bet of all is to buy a trunk - lip - mount CB antenna, should be around 20 bucks or so. The antenna will mount to your front (hood) door edge, on either the right or left. So, instead of being "trunk mounted," it's "hood mounted. Run the cable through a grommet in your firewall. You will have to experiment with locating the wire. If it's close to a computer chip, it will get noisy (likewise the alternator, coil, distributor, or spark plugs). Now, if you don't mind "ugly," you can simply trail the cable along your front door pillar, and lead in through a window (rolled up, of course). You might want to pick up a cheap preamplifier kit from Ramsey Electronics if you're good with a soldering iron. Short out the coil inside the base of the CB antenna so it will not resonate on the CB band only. There you go, for a total cost of thirty or forty bucks, you have an outstanding, all - purpose antenna that works well for HF reception. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04 |
XM doesn't carry ''SW Broadcasters''. Sirius does.
On 21 May 2004 00:14:10 -0700, (ex_cathedra) wrote: Poo poo on XM Thanx anyway! |
The best bet of all is to buy a trunk - lip - mount CB antenna,
should be around 20 bucks or so. The antenna will mount to your front (hood) door edge, on either the right or left. So, instead of being "trunk mounted," it's "hood mounted. Do not use a CB antenna that has any kind of loading coil, either in the middle or base. It will limit the frequency range of the antenna for shortwave reception. A long whip is best, such as a 1/4 wavelength CB antenna with no coil. Radio Shack sells them. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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