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Zaphon B. May 22nd 04 08:51 AM

Hi, I'm new
 
I'm new, so I'd like to wish everyone here a good day and a big HELLO.

OK. I bought a Grudig S350, comments, thoughts, suggestions?

I live in USA, Florida, Panhandle and I really want to catch up
on world news and the local cultures and going ons of various
countries, can someone help me out and toss a newbie a bone or
two?

I also understand Morse code as well as the next boy scout, but
some of it I seem to be picking up seems to be bursting out so fast
that I'm starting to think it isn't even Morse code, is there some
other high speed data burst stuff going on or am I just really
clueless to Morse code?

also any truth to the half murky stuff about random M/C popping up
at random places and times across the world and no one know
exactly what the **** is going on?

Thank You.

Zaphod "stil prez, stil a newbie"

PS. I think that shortwave radio is kinda like the internet only for people
who
have imagination. Am I wrong or a snob?




May 22nd 04 09:12 AM

Some Morse code /CW is very fast! You can get round this by plugging your
audio out into the soundcard of your PC and get a CW/data decoding program
like CW get Ham Com is an all rounder but getting on a bit.
A penny on the antenna is a $ on the rig, so get a few pennies worth of wire
out and you will hear more than a set top antenna.
Short wave listening is for anyone with a few quid spare to buy a radio. Or
a few pennies spare to build a radio.
One of the cheapest, and one of the most expensive hobbies, rolled into one
king sized skin.. If you want to try ham data try doing a search for PSK31
or slowscan TV. If you get a RITTY decoding program, you might pick up some
news from the news agencies who still use that mode (not many now days) All
the best



Zaphon B. May 22nd 04 09:21 AM


wrote in message
...
Some Morse code /CW is very fast! You can get round this by plugging your
audio out into the soundcard of your PC and get a CW/data decoding program
like CW get Ham Com is an all rounder but getting on a bit.
A penny on the antenna is a $ on the rig, so get a few pennies worth of

wire
out and you will hear more than a set top antenna.
Short wave listening is for anyone with a few quid spare to buy a radio.

Or
a few pennies spare to build a radio.
One of the cheapest, and one of the most expensive hobbies, rolled into

one
king sized skin.. If you want to try ham data try doing a search for

PSK31
or slowscan TV. If you get a RITTY decoding program, you might pick up

some
news from the news agencies who still use that mode (not many now days)

All
the best



Thank you sir. I'm not sure I got all that but I got the jest of it.
With my radio, if you're familiar with the brand at all, (Grundig S350)
would be a good antenna, it has a plug for it and if there's a hole, I like
to fill it.

Z



DeWayne May 22nd 04 10:20 AM


"Zaphon B." wrote in message
...


I live in USA, Florida, Panhandle and I really want to catch up
on world news and the local cultures and going ons of various
countries, can someone help me out and toss a newbie a bone or
two?


You have a kweer way of expressing yourself.



May 22nd 04 10:36 AM

try a dipole, its 2 bits of wire the same length sticking out opposite to
each other, as high as you can hang em!.
Look up the G5RV antenna for a good start, then you have an antenna, that
all others are gauged by.
When most antennas are designed, they have a comparison in the performance
made to a simple Dipole. An Isotropic dipole, I think its called...
http://www.antennasmore.com/g5rv.htm
here's one for sale, but they are dead easy to make.

Bongs who said bongs.... Oh go on, then fill us a bowl.



N8KDV May 22nd 04 10:47 AM



wrote:

try a dipole, its 2 bits of wire the same length sticking out opposite to
each other, as high as you can hang em!.
Look up the G5RV antenna for a good start, then you have an antenna, that
all others are gauged by.
When most antennas are designed, they have a comparison in the performance
made to a simple Dipole. An Isotropic dipole, I think its called...
http://www.antennasmore.com/g5rv.htm
here's one for sale, but they are dead easy to make.


Why would anyone want a dipole for all 'round use on shortwave?

A random wire is the way to go.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Volker Tonn May 22nd 04 12:49 PM



Zaphon B. schrieb:

I'm new, so I'd like to wish everyone here a good day and a big HELLO.

At first a hearty welcome to the crowd.

At second: Beware of N8KDV (Steve Lare) and mwbryant (Michael Bryant).
Both known to keep everything to offtopic and posting under various
names. Please do NEVER ask a question or respond to them in any way.

OK. I bought a Grudig S350, comments, thoughts, suggestions?


It's an 'appetizer' just fine for a beginner :-)
For sure you want to upgrade to a tabletop receiver within a short time
when getting deeper into the stuff.
Your first upgrade may be an outdoor antenna. Just take a wire length of
10' to 20' connected to the whip antenna with an alligator clip....


I live in USA, Florida, Panhandle and I really want to catch up
on world news and the local cultures and going ons of various
countries, can someone help me out and toss a newbie a bone or
two?


OK.Here's a first bone ;-)
A free database for shortwave broadcast:
http://www.ilgradio.de/ilgradio.htm


I also understand Morse code as well as the next boy scout, but
some of it I seem to be picking up seems to be bursting out so fast
that I'm starting to think it isn't even Morse code, is there some
other high speed data burst stuff going on or am I just really
clueless to Morse code?


A second bone ;-)
On this site you will find a lot of stuff for decoding morse code and
digital modes on shortwave with computer and soundcard:
http://www.muenster.de/~welp/sb.htm

also any truth to the half murky stuff about random M/C popping up
at random places and times across the world and no one know
exactly what the **** is going on?

Thank You.

Zaphod "stil prez, stil a newbie"

PS. I think that shortwave radio is kinda like the internet only for people
who have imagination. Am I wrong or a snob?


You are wrong and a snob :-)
Best regards from Berlin/Germany.


N8KDV May 22nd 04 12:55 PM



Volker 'I live in Berlin cause that's where my heroes hung out' Tonn wrote:

Zaphon B. schrieb:

I'm new, so I'd like to wish everyone here a good day and a big HELLO.

At first a hearty welcome to the crowd.

At second: Beware of N8KDV (Steve Lare) and mwbryant (Michael Bryant).
Both known to keep everything to offtopic and posting under various
names. Please do NEVER ask a question or respond to them in any way.


First and foremost: Beware of Volker Tonn, known NAZI sympathiser and he's
definitely anti-American... beware.



Zaphon B. May 22nd 04 05:11 PM

"DeWayne" wrote in message
...

"Zaphon B." wrote in message
...


I live in USA, Florida, Panhandle and I really want to catch up
on world news and the local cultures and going ons of various
countries, can someone help me out and toss a newbie a bone or
two?


You have a kweer way of expressing yourself.


Well I didn't think the fact that I was a fagot was shining through
quite so much but I guess I'm mistaken.

Oh well.

Zaphod



Greg May 22nd 04 05:58 PM

From: "Zaphon B."
Organization: "President of the Universe"
Reply-To: "Zaphon B."
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 02:51:28 -0500
Subject: Hi, I'm new

I'm new, so I'd like to wish everyone here a good day and a big HELLO.

OK. I bought a Grudig S350, comments, thoughts, suggestions?

(Snip)
I'm surprised no one has said this yet, so I will. Get the newest edition
(2004) of Passport to World Band Radio from Amazon or your favorite book
seller. It's chock full of SW information, like broadcast schedules,
equipment reviews, and interesting articles. The World Radio and TV
Handbook (WRTH) is another popular guide.

Also, look for a Radio Shack wind-up antenna. It's a 24-foot wire on a
plastic reel with a clip on one end to attach to your whip antenna. It will
make that excellent portable of yours much more sensitive and it makes it
easy to use the radio in different rooms in the house or on camping trips to
St. Andrews State Park.

Have fun.

Greg


Michael Bryant May 22nd 04 07:21 PM

From: Volker Tonn

At second: Beware of N8KDV (Steve Lare) and mwbryant (Michael Bryant).
Both known to keep everything to offtopic and posting under various
names. Please do NEVER ask a question or respond to them in any way.


Volker,

I post under 2 names. One I use for Sw info. You, on the other hand, post
almost nothing to do with SW.

I understand your problems with Lare, but please don't defame me to satisfy
your attempts to be the "good guy" on the Ng. You aren't.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Volker Tonn May 22nd 04 08:15 PM

Michael Bryant schrieb:

Volker,

I post under 2 names. One I use for Sw info. You, on the other hand, post
almost nothing to do with SW.


I do only post under my one and real name. I have nothing to hide.
I NEVER started offtopic threads like you do all the way. And at least I
post SW-related things _sometimes_.
Your offtopic crap is far superior over annything SW-related from you.
So stop whining.


I understand your problems with Lare, but please don't defame me to satisfy
your attempts to be the "good guy" on the Ng. You aren't.


I never claimed to be a good guy. I'm getting REALLY bad on proven bad
ones -you know very good-. I do not make a difference in extreme
political skills or the colour of ones skin. Nazis are as bad as
communists and there is no markable difference in percentage of bad
people of all colours. At least you're able to discuss without insulting
primilary -Steve is not he just proved again-. And you're the one taking
everything to offtopic. This time as always....

EOD


N8KDV May 22nd 04 08:23 PM



Volker Tonn wrote:

Michael Bryant schrieb:

Volker,

I post under 2 names. One I use for Sw info. You, on the other hand, post
almost nothing to do with SW.


I do only post under my one and real name. I have nothing to hide.
I NEVER started offtopic threads like you do all the way. And at least I
post SW-related things _sometimes_.
Your offtopic crap is far superior over annything SW-related from you.
So stop whining.


I understand your problems with Lare, but please don't defame me to satisfy
your attempts to be the "good guy" on the Ng. You aren't.


I never claimed to be a good guy. I'm getting REALLY bad on proven bad
ones -you know very good-. I do not make a difference in extreme
political skills or the colour of ones skin. Nazis are as bad as
communists and there is no markable difference in percentage of bad
people of all colours. At least you're able to discuss without insulting
primilary -Steve is not he just proved again-. And you're the one taking
everything to offtopic. This time as always....

EOD


I guess he told you, Fat Boy!



Michael Bryant May 22nd 04 09:09 PM

From: N8KDV

I never claimed to be a good guy. I'm getting REALLY bad on proven bad
ones -you know very good-. I do not make a difference in extreme
political skills or the colour of ones skin. Nazis are as bad as
communists and there is no markable difference in percentage of bad
people of all colours. At least you're able to discuss without insulting
primilary -Steve is not he just proved again-. And you're the one taking
everything to offtopic. This time as always....

EOD


I guess he told you, Fat Boy!


Well, Steve, as soon as I can find a translator, I'll let you know. Volker
seems to be having some communication problems.....


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

N8KDV May 22nd 04 09:17 PM



Michael 'I strive to prove that I'm retarded every day' Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


I never claimed to be a good guy. I'm getting REALLY bad on proven bad
ones -you know very good-. I do not make a difference in extreme
political skills or the colour of ones skin. Nazis are as bad as
communists and there is no markable difference in percentage of bad
people of all colours. At least you're able to discuss without insulting
primilary -Steve is not he just proved again-. And you're the one taking
everything to offtopic. This time as always....

EOD


I guess he told you, Fat Boy!


Well, Steve, as soon as I can find a translator, I'll let you know.


Just don't let me know via email, you fat piece of ****!

Volker
seems to be having some communication problems.....



Volker Tonn May 22nd 04 10:30 PM


Volker Tonn schrieb:


EOD


Thanks for you both confirmed my 2nd point.


N8KDV May 22nd 04 10:33 PM



Volker 'I live in Berlin cause it's where dear Adolph lived' Tonn wrote:

Volker Tonn schrieb:


EOD


Thanks for you both confirmed my 2nd point.


You're welcome, ****head!



Stephen M.H. Lawrence May 22nd 04 11:22 PM



"-=jd=-" wrote:

| Although, I'm really starting to like my loop. At about 120 feet of #14 of
| insulated wire arranged in a horizontal (flat) triangle - even though it's
| closer to the house, it has got to be the quietest (from ambient noise)
| antenna I have tried to date. It sux for local FM broadcasts though...
|
|
| -=jd=-

Try using a decent attenuator - that might work wonders.
120 feet of wire is sure to overload even the most well - built
FM receivers.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

(NOTE: My email address has only one "dot."
You'll have to edit out the one between the "7"
and the "3" in my email address if you wish to
reply via email)


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Stephen M.H. Lawrence May 22nd 04 11:25 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote:
| Thanks for you both confirmed my 2nd point.

Hey, Volker:

Rammstein kicks ass!

Just thought you'd like to know - we now
return to our regularly - scheduled program.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

(NOTE: My email address has only one "dot."
You'll have to edit out the one between the "7"
and the "3" in my email address if you wish to
reply via email)


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Al Patrick May 23rd 04 02:05 AM

You may want to check out this page:

http://www.kiwa.com/GrundigS350.html

Al

=============

Zaphon B. wrote:
I'm new, so I'd like to wish everyone here a good day and a big HELLO.

OK. I bought a Grudig S350, comments, thoughts, suggestions?

I live in USA, Florida, Panhandle and I really want to catch up
on world news and the local cultures and going ons of various
countries, can someone help me out and toss a newbie a bone or
two?

I also understand Morse code as well as the next boy scout, but
some of it I seem to be picking up seems to be bursting out so fast
that I'm starting to think it isn't even Morse code, is there some
other high speed data burst stuff going on or am I just really
clueless to Morse code?

also any truth to the half murky stuff about random M/C popping up
at random places and times across the world and no one know
exactly what the **** is going on?

Thank You.

Zaphod "stil prez, stil a newbie"

PS. I think that shortwave radio is kinda like the internet only for people
who
have imagination. Am I wrong or a snob?





Telamon May 23rd 04 06:35 AM

In article ,
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: Volker Tonn


At second: Beware of N8KDV (Steve Lare) and mwbryant (Michael
Bryant). Both known to keep everything to offtopic and posting under
various names. Please do NEVER ask a question or respond to them in
any way.


Volker,

I post under 2 names. One I use for Sw info. You, on the other hand,
post almost nothing to do with SW.

I understand your problems with Lare, but please don't defame me to
satisfy your attempts to be the "good guy" on the Ng. You aren't.


The King of Trolls forgot to proclaim none is as bad as himself.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

GO BEARCATS May 23rd 04 10:52 AM

I'm new, so I'd like to wish everyone here a good day and a big HELLO.

OK. I bought a Grudig S350, comments, thoughts, suggestions?


ooops, my bad. I accused you in another thread of being *Phil*-ebay UFO Antenna
on the head with a Suction Cup *Phil*.

Sorry about that. Did anyone else get a 'truly' weird feeling in looknig at
his site and watching some of those films clips of his? I had to stop, I was
feeling disturbed...lol....seriously....it was like I felt bad for him in a
weird way. {?}


~^Monitoring The Spectrum^~
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/*SUPER*398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+HowellSW
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
500ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Long-Wire
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*
*21/2X2ft.FiveSpoked~Penta-Loop~PancakeLoop*
~OptimusCTR-111Cassettte Recorder~
~Radio Shack 2Speed VOX#43-476~
~Ramsey Speech Scrambler~


GO BEARCATS May 23rd 04 11:34 AM

I'm not sure I got all that but I got the jest of it.

Some of the ones in here will be easy with you, others will spew forth talk
even though they know you have absolutely NO idea what they're talking about.

I never did get that......well I did I suppose, it's kind of sad actually. But
hang in there, your piece (radio) is a good one from what I've read, the specs
on it are OK -so it'll be 'perfect' for you to get started.

Matter of fact, I have the 'Passport to Worldband Radio' (which you should RUN
to your nearest Barnes/Noble or Borders/Books and buy it) and I'm reading the
review about it. The Passport I mentioned is like the TV Guide for Shortwave
Radio Listeners -gives you the time and frequencies. READ!!!!!

It suffers (according to Passport) from:Drift/images....aaaah nothing big.

Pros: Great speaker audio quality substantially above the norm for world band
portables (this is a quote.) Unusually 'powerful' audio, two band-widths, well
chosen are a real surprise at this price.

Not a bad receiver for one just starting, you're starting with a better piece
than I did. Sounds like it drifts, which is no big deal - just turn it on and
let it warm up and it'll stabilize rather well I'm sure.

I would add maybe 10-15 ft. of wire if you have to fill that hole as you so
eloquently put it, but from what I'm reading, it may overload the front end of
the radio on you if you run a length of 25ft. or more. Try it and see, that's
the beauty of this hobby.

You'll know if that's happening, it'll sound like a bunch of garbled up noise
and you can literally feel it in the front of your receiver.

I'll let the ones that own it help you out more. Welcome to the *Brotherhood*-
and that IS basically what it is. Just read and read and read and then apply
it, can't stress that enough. Get Popular Communications then after three to
five months grab you a copy of "Monitoring Times.'----it's for the more
advanced listeners


~^Monitoring The Spectrum^~
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/*SUPER*398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+HowellSW
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
500ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Long-Wire
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*
*21/2X2ft.FiveSpoked~Penta-Loop~PancakeLoop*
~OptimusCTR-111Cassettte Recorder~
~Radio Shack 2Speed VOX#43-476~
~Ramsey Speech Scrambler~

Happy Listening!:-)


GO BEARCATS May 23rd 04 11:40 AM

try a dipole, its 2 bits of wire the same length sticking out opposite to
each other, as high as you can hang em!.
Look up the G5RV antenna for a good start, then you have an antenna, that
all others are gauged by.


Huh? NO way, unless I'm really off base by the specs and what I've read. That
type of antenna will kick the crap out of the front end of that receiver.

Haven't you read about the 'pros' -'cons' of the piece?

I wouldn't do that, unless you want to learn VERY quickly what they mean by
over loading the front end of your radio and not hearing a thing.

Give it a shot. It's not me saying this either, it's from every writeup I've
read about it because the buddy of mine that wanted that MultiReader from MFJ
saw the same radio we're talking about and asked me about it.

My friend is a HAM, I know what he expects, it wouldn't do the thing for him. I
told him he would be dissapointed.

Isn't that funny, someone who is a ham radio operator and don't know a
lick(basically) about SWL, two totally different things.


~^Monitoring The Spectrum^~
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/*SUPER*398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+HowellSW
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
500ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Long-Wire
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*
*21/2X2ft.FiveSpoked~Penta-Loop~PancakeLoop*
~OptimusCTR-111Cassettte Recorder~
~Radio Shack 2Speed VOX#43-476~
~Ramsey Speech Scrambler~


GO BEARCATS May 23rd 04 11:43 AM


You have a kweer way of expressing yourself.


Ole' DeWayne had his *Gadar* on and he caught him one. "Up against the car"
says DeWayne.....Muahahahahah!!!!!!!! ;-)


~^Monitoring The Spectrum^~
Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier
Hammarlund HQ140X
Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios)
RCA Victor *Strato- World*
RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain)
1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M
Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand
DX100/394/*SUPER*398/399/402
OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451
Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+HowellSW
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft.
500ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated)
120ft. 12 AWG Long-Wire
2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas
Radio Shack Amplified Antenna
30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap)
* Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable*
*21/2X2ft.FiveSpoked~Penta-Loop~PancakeLoop*
~OptimusCTR-111Cassettte Recorder~
~Radio Shack 2Speed VOX#43-476~
~Ramsey Speech Scrambler~


N8KDV May 23rd 04 12:40 PM



-=jd=- wrote:

On Sat 22 May 2004 06:22:56p, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence"
wrote in message
hlink.net:



"-=jd=-" wrote:

| Although, I'm really starting to like my loop. At about 120 feet of #14
| of insulated wire arranged in a horizontal (flat) triangle - even
| though it's closer to the house, it has got to be the quietest (from
| ambient noise) antenna I have tried to date. It sux for local FM
| broadcasts though...
|
|
| -=jd=-

Try using a decent attenuator - that might work wonders.
120 feet of wire is sure to overload even the most well - built
FM receivers.

73,


Actually, I have the opposite problem - The entire FM band is registering
far less than it should. This means my favorite FM station (NPR - a weak
station to begin with) is lost in the hissss. I'm switching out the
transformer for a 1:1 today to see if that helps.

I really need to get a noise bridge and stop trying to figure out the
actual impedance using the braille method...


I had a MFJ noise bridge (MFJ-202B) for quite some time, sorry I sold the darn
thing off. It was quite handy, guess I should order another one up.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




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