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Mike Terry May 27th 04 01:35 PM

What is shortwave radio?
 
From a purely technical point of view, shortwave radio refers to those
frequencies between 3 and 30 MHz. Their main characteristic is their
ability
to "propagate" for long distances, making possible such worldwide
communications as international broadcasting and coordination of
long-distance
shipping.

From a social point of view, shortwave radio is a way to find out what the
rest of the world thinks is important. Many countries broadcast to the
world
in English, making it easy to find out what a given country's position is on
those things it finds important. Shortwave radio can also provide a way to
eavesdrop on the everyday workings of international politics and commerce.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/monit...shortwave-faq/

Hopefully these guidelines will be born in mind by those who post to this
group.



Sanjaya May 27th 04 03:24 PM

Mike Terry wrote:

[snip]

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/monit...shortwave-faq/

Hopefully these guidelines will be born in mind by those who post to
this group.


Give it up man.
They're gonna post what they want to post.
Killfile the people who bother you, ignore threads
you aren't interested in.
I don't post here much anymore, but you are welcome
to test your killfile on me.



Mike Terry May 27th 04 05:26 PM

Thanks for your good advice Sanjaya.

Have a nice day.

73s

Mike




Diverd4777 May 27th 04 08:04 PM

In article .net, "Sanjaya"
writes:


Mike Terry wrote:

[snip]

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/monit...shortwave-faq/

Hopefully these guidelines will be born in mind by those who post to
this group.


Give it up man.
They're gonna post what they want to post.
Killfile the people who bother you, ignore threads
you aren't interested in.
I don't post here much anymore, but you are welcome
to test your killfile on me.


Mike
Sanjaya is one of the Few people who post regurlarly on Shortwave related
issues;
so don't kill file her..
& BTW, Propagation for Radio New Zealand ( 15.720 ) has been very good lately;
and ..
on WBCQ ( 7.415) last night they played an old tape of " The Lone Ranger" ,
followed by tapes of " Jack Benny" and then " Jean Sheperd".


Dan ( R-75, Sangean 606A, Jwin Jx - m14 & another one shortly )

( All the above text certified shortwave related )


RHF May 27th 04 08:41 PM

MT,

You forgot the THIRD Shortwave Point-of-View those that are into
the "Hobby" of Shortwave Radio. Here is the 'basis' of the Problem
related to the Diversity of Postings, both On-Topic and Off-Topic,
that can be found on the "Rec-Radio-Shortwave" NewsGroup.

Hobbyist can be passive, Active and sometimes FANATICS !

Turn the Radio On - Just Listen - Enjoy & Be Amazed ~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Mike Terry" wrote in message
= = = ...

From a purely Technical Point-of-View, Shortwave Radio refers
to those frequencies between 3 and 30 MHz.
Their main characteristic is their ability to "propagate" for
long distances, making possible such worldwide communications
as international broadcasting and coordination of long-distance
shipping.

From a Social Point-of-View, Shortwave Radio is a way to find
out what the rest of the world thinks is important.
Many countries broadcast to the world in English, making it easy
to find out what a given country's position is on those things
it finds important. Shortwave radio can also provide a way to
eavesdrop on the everyday workings of international politics
and commerce.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/monit...shortwave-faq/

Hopefully these guidelines will be born in mind by those who
post to this group.
..

Sanjaya May 28th 04 02:15 AM

Diverd4777 wrote:

Mike
Sanjaya is one of the Few people who post regurlarly on Shortwave
related issues;
so don't kill file her..

[snip]

Hope I'm not bursting any bubbles here...
I'm a guy : )



m II May 28th 04 03:35 AM

Sanjaya wrote:

Hope I'm not bursting any bubbles here...
I'm a guy : )



Please ignore the flowers when they arrive tomorrow.




mike

Sanjaya May 28th 04 09:12 AM

m II wrote:

Please ignore the flowers when they arrive tomorrow.




mike


LOL



Telamon May 28th 04 11:02 AM

In article ,
(George No Show) wrote:

On Thu, 27 May 2004 12:35:32 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Terry"
wrote:

From a purely technical point of view, shortwave radio refers to
those frequencies between 3 and 30 MHz. Their main characteristic
is their ability to "propagate" for long distances, making possible
such worldwide communications as international broadcasting and
coordination of long-distance shipping.

From a social point of view, shortwave radio is a way to find out
what the rest of the world thinks is important. Many countries
broadcast to the world in English, making it easy to find out what a
given country's position is on those things it finds important.
Shortwave radio can also provide a way to eavesdrop on the everyday
workings of international politics and commerce.


So then what you are saying is that since international politics and
commerce are discussed on shortwave radio then they are acceptable
also to be discussed here.

Thank you for the clarification. I'm glad that you finally worked
this out in your head.


Whether it's someone's blog or a news story most of the people here are
capable of finding them on the Internet and don't need a Troll
reposting them here.

Since that is all you do I'm putting you in the kill file.

You have to understand that Trolling in this newsgroup is held to the
finest and highest standards by the King of Trolls and you will find
that people in this newsgroup will not lower their standards when it
comes to the way off topic material, or any other type of Trolling, is
presented.

Since we have been Trolled by the best - we will forget the rest.

plonk

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Brian Running May 28th 04 01:26 PM

From a social point of view, shortwave radio is a way to find out what
the
rest of the world thinks is important. Many countries broadcast to the
world
in English, making it easy to find out what a given country's position is

on
those things it finds important. Shortwave radio can also provide a way

to
eavesdrop on the everyday workings of international politics and

commerce.

So then what you are saying is that since international politics and

commerce are discussed on shortwave radio then they are acceptable also to
be
discussed here.

Thank you for the clarification. I'm glad that you finally worked this out

in your head.

Listen, "George", I can assure you that the vast majority of us don't come
to this group to view the latest public displays of the delusions of all the
head cases that dominate this NG. Your opinions mean nothing. Politics are
never "discussed" here, bizarre psychological aberrations are revealed here.
Between the wacko posts of the type you prefer, and the constant
name-calling wars of those two other nut jobs, it's awful damned hard to
find any info at all about shortwave listening here.



George No Show May 28th 04 07:55 PM

On Fri, 28 May 2004 07:26:14 -0500, "Brian Running" wrote:

From a social point of view, shortwave radio is a way to find out what

the
rest of the world thinks is important. Many countries broadcast to the
world
in English, making it easy to find out what a given country's position is

on
those things it finds important. Shortwave radio can also provide a way

to
eavesdrop on the everyday workings of international politics and

commerce.

So then what you are saying is that since international politics and

commerce are discussed on shortwave radio then they are acceptable also to
be
discussed here.

Thank you for the clarification. I'm glad that you finally worked this out

in your head.

Listen, "George", I can assure you that the vast majority of us don't come
to this group to view the latest public displays of the delusions of all the
head cases that dominate this NG. Your opinions mean nothing. Politics are
never "discussed" here, bizarre psychological aberrations are revealed here.
Between the wacko posts of the type you prefer, and the constant
name-calling wars of those two other nut jobs, it's awful damned hard to
find any info at all about shortwave listening here.


I get it Brian, you're the only sane one here huh?
I see your problem and I can help. rec.radio.shortwave is just a general shortwave group.
Everything you want to know about shortwave listening can be found at rec.radio.shortwave.listening.
I think it will be more enjoyable for you.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. g

Brian Running May 28th 04 09:01 PM

I get it Brian, you're the only sane one here huh?

Of the people that post here, rather than just lurk looking for info, most
of them lately don't seem to have both oars in the water. I'm sure this
newsgroup is just like any other, with a majority lurking and a minority
actually posting. I'm equally sure that the majority is more sane than the
minority.

I see your problem and I can help. rec.radio.shortwave is just a general

shortwave group.
Everything you want to know about shortwave listening can be found at

rec.radio.shortwave.listening.
I think it will be more enjoyable for you.


Thanks for the suggestion, but I've got two points of just plain ol' common
sense: Seems that the discussion of the content of shortwave broadcasts
would be better suited for the ".listening" group. And it seems to me that
it would make a hell of a lot more sense to take the "political" stuff to
political newsgroups, hey, George?

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. g


I'll keep filtering through the psychobabble, there's occasionally some very
interesting shortwave-related material here. Unfortunately, a large
percentage of the high-volume posters here have a delusion that their
personal political views matter to someone other than themselves. It's
astonishing that people will behave in public the way that they do.



Raqueeb Hassan May 29th 04 09:47 PM

Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)

uncle arnie May 30th 04 12:32 AM

On Sat, 29 May 2004 02:47 pm -0600 UTC, Raqueeb Hassan
posted: %MM


raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)


What are you hearing in the Congo?
--
-UA

Frank Dresser May 30th 04 01:34 AM


"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)


It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser



starman May 30th 04 06:38 AM

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)


It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser


This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(


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dxAce May 30th 04 06:46 AM



starman wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)


It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser


This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(


This group is evidence of nothing. The only thing that is dying, perhaps, is your
interest in the hobby.

That's OK, but don't try to blame it on what goes on here.

Some folks look for excuses, are you one of them?



starman May 30th 04 07:06 AM

dxAce wrote:

starman wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)

It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser


This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(


This group is evidence of nothing. The only thing that is dying, perhaps, is your
interest in the hobby.

That's OK, but don't try to blame it on what goes on here.

Some folks look for excuses, are you one of them?


I never stated that shortwave is dying, only that this group may be an
accurate barometer of the hobby. You're either feeling guilty (not
likely) or it's Saturday night again.


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dxAce May 30th 04 07:12 AM



starman wrote:

dxAce wrote:

starman wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)

It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser

This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(


This group is evidence of nothing. The only thing that is dying, perhaps, is your
interest in the hobby.

That's OK, but don't try to blame it on what goes on here.

Some folks look for excuses, are you one of them?


I never stated that shortwave is dying, only that this group may be an
accurate barometer of the hobby. You're either feeling guilty (not
likely) or it's Saturday night again.


You never said that. Here is what you said:

"This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-("

Get back to me when you get a grip, 'tard. You didn't mention barometer, or accuracy
either.





dxAce May 30th 04 07:22 AM



starman wrote:

dxAce wrote:

starman wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)

It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser

This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(


This group is evidence of nothing. The only thing that is dying, perhaps, is your
interest in the hobby.

That's OK, but don't try to blame it on what goes on here.

Some folks look for excuses, are you one of them?


I never stated that shortwave is dying, only that this group may be an
accurate barometer of the hobby. You're either feeling guilty (not
likely) or it's Saturday night again.


And by the way, for those of us 'in the know', it's already Sunday!



starman May 30th 04 07:32 AM

dxAce wrote:

starman wrote:

dxAce wrote:

starman wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)

It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser

This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(

This group is evidence of nothing. The only thing that is dying, perhaps, is your
interest in the hobby.

That's OK, but don't try to blame it on what goes on here.

Some folks look for excuses, are you one of them?


I never stated that shortwave is dying, only that this group may be an
accurate barometer of the hobby. You're either feeling guilty (not
likely) or it's Saturday night again.


You never said that. Here is what you said:

"This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-("

Get back to me when you get a grip, 'tard. You didn't mention barometer, or accuracy
either.


I won't play the literal quote game with you. You know very well what
sentiment my original commment was intended to convey. It's interesting
that you are the only one that seems to have taken it personally, like
you think it was directed at you. I wonder why?


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dxAce May 30th 04 07:39 AM



starman wrote:

dxAce wrote:

starman wrote:

dxAce wrote:

starman wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly [OT]
talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as before these
days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio Star".

raqueeb hassan
congo (drc)

It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads going. I
suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as shortwave
listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war hobbyists
in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser

This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(

This group is evidence of nothing. The only thing that is dying, perhaps, is your
interest in the hobby.

That's OK, but don't try to blame it on what goes on here.

Some folks look for excuses, are you one of them?

I never stated that shortwave is dying, only that this group may be an
accurate barometer of the hobby. You're either feeling guilty (not
likely) or it's Saturday night again.


You never said that. Here is what you said:

"This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-("

Get back to me when you get a grip, 'tard. You didn't mention barometer, or accuracy
either.


I won't play the literal quote game with you.


No game to play. But that's perhaps what you are about?

You know very well what
sentiment my original commment was intended to convey. It's interesting
that you are the only one that seems to have taken it personally, like
you think it was directed at you. I wonder why?


No, not at all. I simply related back to you what you posted originally. I think it was you
who took it personally.

You then twisted what you had originally stated.

Simple fact.



Telamon May 31st 04 12:52 AM

In article , starman
wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Raqueeb Hassan" wrote in message
om...
Hmm.

well, I don't know what has gone wrong with this group? Mostly
[OT] talkabouts. Maybe, people don't listen to shortwave as
before these days. Can't complain, when "Video Killed The Radio
Star".

raqueeb hassan congo (drc)


It's mostly the same people who keep the off topic flame threads
going. I suppose argueing and insulting people are hobbys, just as
shortwave listening is.

This group is much more interesting if you put about 10 flame war
hobbyists in your kill-file.

Frank Dresser


This group may be the best evidence that shortwave is dying. :-(


No just that schools out.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Raqueeb Hassan May 31st 04 08:38 PM

Hello Arnie,

Thanks for asking. I mostly listen RNW, DW, RFI and Radio Congo.

Raqueeb Hassan
drc

Stinger May 31st 04 11:01 PM


"helmsman" wrote in message
...
On 31 May 2004 12:38:42 -0700, (Raqueeb Hassan) wrote:

Hello Arnie,

Thanks for asking. I mostly listen RNW, DW, RFI and Radio Congo.

Raqueeb Hassan
drc


A Flash movie describing the basics of HF (short-wave) radio propagation

across the globe.
With text and animation. Courtesy of AE4RV
http://www.ae4rv.com/tn/propflash.htm


My thanks for that link, "helmsman."

-- Stinger




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