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Frank Dresser June 3rd 04 11:47 PM

Air America -- Good Ratings in NY!
 
"For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the
network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of
listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays,
according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for
the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings
in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound,
although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.) "

"By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average
share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That
time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head
to head against Mr. Franken"

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-08.htm

Looks like I was wrong about Air America's ratings, at least at the start
up. I didn't much like most of the hosts(although I thought Franken was OK)
and I thought they would turn off listeners. Well, Air America says more
people in the New York area listened to Franken, rather than Limbaugh.

The article is mostly about Air America's rotten business start-up.

Frank Dresser




Diverd4777 June 4th 04 01:33 AM


- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regurlarly.

"Morning Sedition" where Mark has " Recovery Corner"
and reaches out to " Brother George Bush " with tips and hints:
"The Presidential Palm Pilot"and
- The daily " Liberal Agenda ' a fax coming in From The Streisand Compound
are all good schticks..

- entertaining,
Like watching Cassius Clay Box; Flurry of direct hits,
then suddenly floats back . .
Leaving the opposition stunned and bewildered.

Air America's a very good station.

Dan ( Running a Sangean DT -110 and doing 10,000 steps a day )





In article , "Frank
Dresser" writes:



"For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the
network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of
listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays,
according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for
the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings
in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound,
although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.) "

"By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average
share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That
time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head
to head against Mr. Franken"

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-08.htm

Looks like I was wrong about Air America's ratings, at least at the start
up. I didn't much like most of the hosts(although I thought Franken was OK)
and I thought they would turn off listeners. Well, Air America says more
people in the New York area listened to Franken, rather than Limbaugh.

The article is mostly about Air America's rotten business start-up.

Frank Dresser







dxAce June 4th 04 01:38 AM



Diverd4777 wrote:

- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regurlarly.

"Morning Sedition" where Mark has " Recovery Corner"
and reaches out to " Brother George Bush " with tips and hints:
"The Presidential Palm Pilot"and
- The daily " Liberal Agenda ' a fax coming in From The Streisand Compound
are all good schticks..

- entertaining,
Like watching Cassius Clay Box; Flurry of direct hits,
then suddenly floats back . .
Leaving the opposition stunned and bewildered.

Air America's a very good station.

Dan ( Running a Sangean DT -110 and doing 10,000 steps a day )


Keep it up! You'll make it to Havana before you know it, and you'll feel right at
home!

Tell Fidel we all said hello...



B Evhart June 4th 04 02:30 AM

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 20:38:28 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



Diverd4777 wrote:

- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regurlarly.

"Morning Sedition" where Mark has " Recovery Corner"
and reaches out to " Brother George Bush " with tips and hints:
"The Presidential Palm Pilot"and
- The daily " Liberal Agenda ' a fax coming in From The Streisand Compound
are all good schticks..

- entertaining,
Like watching Cassius Clay Box; Flurry of direct hits,
then suddenly floats back . .
Leaving the opposition stunned and bewildered.

Air America's a very good station.

Dan ( Running a Sangean DT -110 and doing 10,000 steps a day )


Keep it up! You'll make it to Havana before you know it, and you'll feel right at
home!

Tell Fidel we all said hello...


Steve, Could you pretend to be a Democrat for one day and argue the
"left's" point of view. It would make for some incredible threads.
I'm asking you - please.

dxAce June 4th 04 02:33 AM



B Evhart wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 20:38:28 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



Diverd4777 wrote:

- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regurlarly.

"Morning Sedition" where Mark has " Recovery Corner"
and reaches out to " Brother George Bush " with tips and hints:
"The Presidential Palm Pilot"and
- The daily " Liberal Agenda ' a fax coming in From The Streisand Compound
are all good schticks..

- entertaining,
Like watching Cassius Clay Box; Flurry of direct hits,
then suddenly floats back . .
Leaving the opposition stunned and bewildered.

Air America's a very good station.

Dan ( Running a Sangean DT -110 and doing 10,000 steps a day )


Keep it up! You'll make it to Havana before you know it, and you'll feel right at
home!

Tell Fidel we all said hello...


Steve, Could you pretend to be a Democrat for one day and argue the
"left's" point of view. It would make for some incredible threads.
I'm asking you - please.


Unlike a few others, I never 'pretend' to be anything.

What you read, is what you get ...

.... or something like that.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Michael Bryant June 4th 04 03:40 AM

From: dxAce

Unlike a few others, I never 'pretend' to be anything.

What you read, is what you get ...

... or something like that.


Undoubtedly!



Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

B Evhart June 4th 04 03:58 AM

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:33:21 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



B Evhart wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 20:38:28 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



Diverd4777 wrote:

- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regurlarly.

"Morning Sedition" where Mark has " Recovery Corner"
and reaches out to " Brother George Bush " with tips and hints:
"The Presidential Palm Pilot"and
- The daily " Liberal Agenda ' a fax coming in From The Streisand Compound
are all good schticks..

- entertaining,
Like watching Cassius Clay Box; Flurry of direct hits,
then suddenly floats back . .
Leaving the opposition stunned and bewildered.

Air America's a very good station.

Dan ( Running a Sangean DT -110 and doing 10,000 steps a day )

Keep it up! You'll make it to Havana before you know it, and you'll feel right at
home!

Tell Fidel we all said hello...


Steve, Could you pretend to be a Democrat for one day and argue the
"left's" point of view. It would make for some incredible threads.
I'm asking you - please.


Unlike a few others, I never 'pretend' to be anything.

What you read, is what you get ...

... or something like that.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




Sure.... Stu Parker. Muhahahahahhhhahhahhahhaaah



RHF June 4th 04 08:48 AM

FD,

For what ever reason, somethings always do well in NYC.

So the Question becomes: How will it Play in Peoria ?

~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Frank Dresser" wrote in message
= = = ...
"For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the
network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of
listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays,
according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for
the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings
in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound,
although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.) "

"By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average
share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That
time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head
to head against Mr. Franken"

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-08.htm

Looks like I was wrong about Air America's ratings, at least at the start
up. I didn't much like most of the hosts(although I thought Franken was OK)
and I thought they would turn off listeners. Well, Air America says more
people in the New York area listened to Franken, rather than Limbaugh.

The article is mostly about Air America's rotten business start-up.

Frank Dresser


RHF June 4th 04 10:25 AM

= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...
From: dxAce


Unlike a few others, I never 'pretend' to be anything.

What you read, is what you get ...

... or something like that.


Undoubtedly!


MWB - You are 'truly' Redoubtable ;-}

Redundantly Yours :o) ~ RHF
..
..
Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

..

Frank Dresser June 4th 04 05:46 PM


"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...

- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regularly.


Did they get better? I didn't think they were particularly good last time I
heard them, but I did think Franken was OK. To be fair, I think they are
about as good as the Limbaugh clones, who get tiresome pretty quickly.
Limbaugh used to be better than he is now, but he started leaning hard on
the Republican party line years ago.

It will be interesting to see how many people are listening in a year.

Of course, what I like ain't necessarily what makes a decent sized audience.
I do think Alex Jones is the most entertaining talent in political talk
radio.



"Morning Sedition" where Mark has " Recovery Corner"
and reaches out to " Brother George Bush " with tips and hints:
"The Presidential Palm Pilot"and
- The daily " Liberal Agenda ' a fax coming in From The Streisand

Compound
are all good schticks..

- entertaining,
Like watching Cassius Clay Box; Flurry of direct hits,
then suddenly floats back . .
Leaving the opposition stunned and bewildered.

Air America's a very good station.


I think the New York station is their only 50 kW station, although the 1 kW
signal in Chicago had fair coverage. We'll see if the New York rating
surprise will give them some momentum to expand into other big cities. And
maybe they will get smart, and get onto shortwave radio.



Dan ( Running a Sangean DT -110 and doing 10,000 steps a day )


Frank Dresser



Frank Dresser June 4th 04 05:55 PM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
...


If anything left of center can't make it in NYC, then it's time to rethink
things. However, it's been my observation that it takes some fairly
appalling stuff to fail in NYC. I would guess that one of the main reasons
they established a presence in NYC was also the same reason they did _not_
try to crank up a station in the south. Although, I think they would find
a receptive audience (perhaps of justifiable size) in Atlanta...


-=jd=-


They say they're on in Chapel Hill, SC and Key West, FL, but I don't know
how much of their programming is carried on these stations.

It seems Tampa Bay is a hotbed of talk radio, and they might have some
success there, if they can break in. Many of the bigger names in Liberal
talk radio have been through the South, such as Tom Leykis, Bob Lassiter and
Mike Malloy, although that's mostly Tampa Bay and Maimi for those guys.

Frank Dresser



David June 4th 04 06:01 PM

Ed Schultz beats Limbaugh in Fargo.

Randi Rhodes beats Limbaugh in Boca Raton.

On 4 Jun 2004 00:48:32 -0700, (RHF) wrote:

FD,

For what ever reason, somethings always do well in NYC.

So the Question becomes: How will it Play in Peoria ?

~ RHF
.
.
= = = "Frank Dresser" wrote in message
= = = ...
"For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the
network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of
listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays,
according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for
the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings
in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound,
although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.) "

"By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average
share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That
time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head
to head against Mr. Franken"

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-08.htm

Looks like I was wrong about Air America's ratings, at least at the start
up. I didn't much like most of the hosts(although I thought Franken was OK)
and I thought they would turn off listeners. Well, Air America says more
people in the New York area listened to Franken, rather than Limbaugh.

The article is mostly about Air America's rotten business start-up.

Frank Dresser



freshface June 4th 04 06:32 PM

(RHF) wrote in message . com...
FD,

For what ever reason, somethings always do well in NYC.

So the Question becomes: How will it Play in Peoria ?

~ RHF
.
.

RHF raises precisely the right question: "How will in play in
Peoria?"

No one has *the* answer to that yet but here's what the radio station
in Portland has to say so far. They are delighted. Read for
yourself:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=24645

BTW, on some other boards you'll run across people who claim Clear
Channel is prohibiting Air America from any of their stations. The
proof is in the pudding. KPOJ, the Portland affiliate of Air America
is a Clear Channel station.

Diverd4777 June 4th 04 07:54 PM

In article , David
writes:

Ed Schultz beats Limbaugh in Fargo.

Randi Rhodes beats Limbaugh in Boca Raton.


Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..



Tom Betz June 4th 04 08:33 PM

Quoth "Frank Dresser" in news:FH1wc.32857
:

Subject: Air America -- Good Ratings in NY!
From: "Frank Dresser"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave


"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regularly.


Did they get better? I didn't think they were particularly good last
time I heard them, but I did think Franken was OK.


Franken's quickly developing radio chops. His conversational interview
style often gives me flashes of Arthur Godfrey's best qualities, and then
there are the comedy bits, which are improving daily. I'm really enjoying
listening to him. The torture segment opening today's show (Franken bound
and shirtless, with Lanpher interrogating him using electrified nipple
clamps) was just hysterical!

All of AA's programming is tightening up since the management change.

Morning Sedition remains as entertaining as any "Morning Zoo" show I've
ever heard, but more clued-in.

Unfiltered, not so much improvement, though Chuck D continues to impress.

The best thing about Majority Report continues to be the guest list, second
best is how well-informed Janeane Garofolo is, though she's taking longer
to develop radio chops than Franken is. She really needs a more
experienced radio hand as a co-host and OTJ trainer; Sam Seder just doesn't
cut it, mostly he annoys the hell out of me.

And Randi Rhodes blows the rest of them away.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

Tom Betz June 4th 04 08:34 PM

Quoth (freshface) in
om:

BTW, on some other boards you'll run across people who claim Clear
Channel is prohibiting Air America from any of their stations. The
proof is in the pudding. KPOJ, the Portland affiliate of Air America
is a Clear Channel station.


And of course, Randi Rhodes remains on the West Palm Clear Channel station,
where she airs after Limbaugh.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

Diverd4777 June 4th 04 09:20 PM


- Still love 'Recovery Corner'

" Hi, My names Mark, I'm an alcoholic;

reaching out to Brother George Bush "....

Lots of good call ins from notables

Great, Uplifting , entertaining stuff..





In article , Tom Betz
writes:


Morning Sedition remains as entertaining as any "Morning Zoo" show I've
ever heard, but more clued-in.

Unfiltered, not so much improvement, though Chuck D continues to impress.

The best thing about Majority Report continues to be the guest list, second
best is how well-informed Janeane Garofolo is, though she's taking longer
to develop radio chops than Franken is. She really needs a more
experienced radio hand as a co-host and OTJ trainer; Sam Seder just doesn't
cut it, mostly he annoys the hell out of me.

And Randi Rhodes blows the rest of them away.




RHF June 5th 04 07:51 AM

= = = (freshface) wrote in message
= = = . com...
(RHF) wrote in message . com...
FD,

For what ever reason, somethings always do well in NYC.

So the Question becomes: How will it Play in Peoria ?

~ RHF
.
.

RHF raises precisely the right question: "How will in play in
Peoria?"

No one has *the* answer to that yet but here's what the radio station
in Portland has to say so far. They are delighted. Read for
yourself:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=24645

BTW, on some other boards you'll run across people who claim Clear
Channel is prohibiting Air America from any of their stations. The
proof is in the pudding. KPOJ, the Portland affiliate of Air America
is a Clear Channel station.


FF,

Exactly, some programming that is specifically NYC (East Coast
Urban) just is not received well in the Heartland of America.
(Small Towns and Rural Areas)

If, Air America's Talk Show Hosts prove to be both Entertaining
and Informative; plus Personalities that their Audiences can
Identify with Politically. Then in a 50/50 Country they should
have a High Percentage "Market Share" of the Nation Wide
Radio Listeners.

Seems from the article that Air America is doing well in the
Metro Portland Area.

~ RHF

..

David June 5th 04 05:19 PM

Undoubtedly. She got some hand-to-hand training in the military.

On 04 Jun 2004 18:54:57 GMT, (Diverd4777) wrote:

In article , David
writes:

Ed Schultz beats Limbaugh in Fargo.

Randi Rhodes beats Limbaugh in Boca Raton.


Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..



Frank Dresser June 5th 04 10:39 PM


"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...

Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..



I'll disagree. Limbaugh, much like the great Kung-Fu masters, knows how to
make himself immune to pain.

Frank Dresser



Tom Betz June 6th 04 12:20 AM

Quoth "Frank Dresser" in news:44rwc.10014
:



"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...

Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..



I'll disagree. Limbaugh, much like the great Kung-Fu masters, knows how to
make himself immune to pain.


Oxycontin.


--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

Diverd4777 June 7th 04 12:12 PM

In article , "Frank
Dresser" writes:


"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...

Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..



I'll disagree. Limbaugh, much like the great Kung-Fu masters, knows how to
make himself immune to pain.

Frank Dresser


ROTFLMAO !!


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