Telamon,

You wouldn't know reality if it bit you on your ass. The fact that you had to
twist the intent of my words is proof enough. Please, feel free to show me
where I stated that the movie should be taken as reality. Have you actually
seen the movie? As Diverd4777 has pointed out "- its an interesting peice
about the fall of Communist East Germany, with some comedy sub plot . . ."

I suggest that you read the following CIA document before crowing about the
Ronald Reagan and the US undoing communism in Eastern Europe. Very shameful
how the USA decided not to warn Solidarity, don't you think?

http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/poland/

Furthermore, the Poles had always been at odds with the Communists. I can damn
well assure you that the Reagan and the gang had nothing to do with various
uprisings in 1956, 1970 and 1976. The Poles brought about the revolution
themselves to eventually free themselves. It wasn't the USA! Live with the
fact!

Please, no more revisionist history from you. I don't care what you thought
you saw in "real time" but a few of my Polish colleagues easily tell a story
different from yours.

Regards

John Barnard

Telamon wrote:

In article , John Barnard
wrote:

If you ever get the chance see "Good-bye, Lenin". It's a very good movie
concerning the fall of communism in East Germany.

By all means continue getting your perspective from the movies while the
rest of us stick to reality.

The following from

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissin...43&sid=4983826

FORMER SOLIDARITY LEADER AND POLISH PRESIDENT LECH WALESA

"When I heard of President Reagan's death, as a Christian I prayed for
him. As a politician I recalled the important role he had played in
the overthrow of world communism.

"Somewhere at the turn of the 1980s a number of politicians and others
at different points on the globe began moving towards a single goal:
the overthrow of the murderous communist system that had the blood of
200 million people on its hands. Reagan was one of the world leaders
who made a major contribution to communism's collapse."

FORMER GERMAN CHANCELLOR HELMUT KOHL, who stood with
Reagan as he made a historic Cold War appeal at the Berlin Wall.

"His consistent championing of freedom contributed decisively to
overcoming the division of Europe and Germany. We Germans
have much to thank Ronald Reagan for."

FORMER SOVIET PRESIDENT MIKHAIL GORBACHEV

"I view Reagan as a great president," said Gorbachev, adding
that his dialogue with Reagan "kick-started the process which
ultimately put an end to the Cold War".

"I do not know how other statesmen would act in his place at the
time. Reagan, who was considered ultra-conservative, dared those
steps and that was his strength."

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Telamon
Ventura, California