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MnMikew June 22nd 04 06:39 PM


"David" wrote in message
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Bite me. Drudge makes 6 figures off his web site. I don't make dick.

Typical warped liberal thinking.



Frank Dresser June 22nd 04 07:29 PM


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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[snip}

They paid a
million bucks to the stations in Chicago and New York for almost nothing.

[snip]

If I had been paying attention, I would have wrote:

They paid a million bucks to the stations in Chicago and Los Angeles for
almost nothing.

Frank Dresser



David Eduardo June 22nd 04 10:29 PM


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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[snip}

They paid a
million bucks to the stations in Chicago and New York for almost nothing.

[snip]

If I had been paying attention, I would have wrote:

They paid a million bucks to the stations in Chicago and Los Angeles for
almost nothing.


They got what they paid for, about a month of 24/7 airtime.



Frank Dresser June 22nd 04 11:06 PM


"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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They paid a million bucks to the stations in Chicago and Los Angeles for
almost nothing.


They got what they paid for, about a month of 24/7 airtime.



I was refering to the check stop incident. Evan Cohen said Air America
bought a million dollars worth of time on the LA station for a couple of
months before Air America started up. He also claimed Arthur Liu sold the
same time to someone else.

Frank Dresser




Diverd4777 June 22nd 04 11:58 PM



- Cartoon of Randi Rhodes... Air America

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David Eduardo June 23rd 04 02:22 AM


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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They paid a million bucks to the stations in Chicago and Los Angeles
for
almost nothing.


They got what they paid for, about a month of 24/7 airtime.



I was refering to the check stop incident. Evan Cohen said Air America
bought a million dollars worth of time on the LA station for a couple of
months before Air America started up. He also claimed Arthur Liu sold the
same time to someone else.


In effect, Air America was unable to provide programming, and defaulted on
the agreement. The station owner contracted with someone else to maintain
programming on the air till such time as AA was ready to provide it. The AA
folks, not aware of the deal they signed, stopped payment on a check and
Liu, the owner, cut them off. All legal. The AA people simply bit the hand
that fed them.



Mitchell Kaufman June 23rd 04 02:54 AM

On 21 Jun 2004 21:40:14 -0400, (Al Dykes) wrote:



It seems that Fox was $150 million in the red for the first 2 years
of operation. You can't expect them to be turning a profit
in the first 2 months of operation.



Fox was building an audience throughout that time. AA is not. The
ratings in New York are now down where they were before AA came on
WLIB.

Mitchell Kaufman June 23rd 04 02:55 AM

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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In article ,
dxAce wrote:
Hardly... if there was indeed a market, then they would not be in the

financial
mess they appear to be in.


There seems to be a market, at least right now. Al Franken beat Rush
Limbaugh in New York.


Nope, WLIB's ratings now are down where they were before they got
taken over by AA. Rush is cleaning Franken's clock.


Frank Dresser June 23rd 04 05:35 AM


"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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In effect, Air America was unable to provide programming, and defaulted on
the agreement. The station owner contracted with someone else to maintain
programming on the air till such time as AA was ready to provide it. The

AA
folks, not aware of the deal they signed, stopped payment on a check and
Liu, the owner, cut them off. All legal. The AA people simply bit the hand
that fed them.



OK, but I wasn't trying to say that Air America acted in a criminal way,
only that they were ****ing away their money and generally acting
incompetently. I'll correct myself further and say:

They paid a million bucks to the station in Los Angeles for almost nothing.

Because, as far as I know, Chicago didn't get involved until the check stop
incident. The million bucks to LA was already deposited, and the stopped
check was for actual Air America broadcast time.

Frank Dresser



lsmyer June 23rd 04 06:41 PM

Some day, business students will study the failure of the Air America
network.

Though so many reasons can be explored, it's my opinion that the primary
reason for the network's eventual fall has to do with its attempt to start
out on top.

You can't simply target Rush on a national scale and expect to beat him.
Rush is a consummate radio broadcasting professional who started at the very
bottom and worked his way to the very top. He didn't start out trying to
force his political opinion on any one. He took his top 40 superjock persona
into the talk radio segment, and people enjoyed the product. Through hard
work and perseverance, his show grew exponentially. He's not a conservative
who happens to be a radio entertainer. He's a radio entertainer who happens
to be a conservative. So could liberal talk radio succeed? Of course. Howard
Stern and Don Imus are two fine examples who come to mind.

Radio is not an easy medium to conquer. It's not simply TV without pictures.
To really succeed in radio requires one to start at the bottom, listen to
radio every waking hour, find mentors to help you develop your personal
style, and prepare to work very hard for very little money. You'll probably
go through a couple of spouses pretty quickly.

Some day, there will be someone who beats Rush. But I don't think it will
come from an organization like Air America. Instead, I think it will come
from an individual who is in love with radio and can't stand being #2.





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