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"me" wrote in message news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52... Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year for regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also believe that is how it will eventually be in the near future. 73, Me Doubtful that testing would be eliminated. International treaties require that there is proof the operators meet minimum qualifications. Since the FCC has given testing responsibility to the amateur community, the FCC simply issues the license so they don't have any vested interest in eliminating testing. And of course they issue the regulations and enforce those regulations like they do for all communications services. Besides testing is needed to attempt to insure that the licensees will have learned the basics of operating. Hams have such a wide range of privileges and frequencies that some basic knowledge truly is a necessity. We already have enough lids slip through so let's not make it worse. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... [snip] This is America, and you are allowed to ask any price you want for what you sell. The buyer can also offer any price they want. I would suggest that if a person is firm on all their prices, and doesn't want to deal, they might want to sell retail. Unless, of course, their price is already ridiculously low. I was selling a used tuner at a hamfest for 1/4 of what a new one would be as I simply didn't like it, wanted to get a different one, and wanted to be sure to sell it. A guy tried to bargain me down but I simply told him that we both knew what they sold for both new and used and I wasn't budging. He forked over the asking price. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52: Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year for regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also believe that is how it will eventually be in the near future. 73, Me "Burp not Burr" wrote in message groups.com... "Minnie Bannister" wrote in message ... The fee for a Vanity Call will rise on August 6 from $16.30 to $20.80. This is for a 10-year license. Doing the math, that comes out to about $2.08 per year, or 0.0057 CENTS per-day over the course of a 10-Year period........... How much do you wanna bet however that the average traditionally el-cheapo ham radio operator will ****-and-moan like a stuck pig over a 0.0057 Cent-per-day fee...??? (my guess is alot will !) For example, I was selling at a hamfest in Pa last month. Had a shoebox full of miniature tubes for $1.00 each. A real bargain considering tubes are going for much more on e-Bay. This putz comes walking up, digs thru the box for 2 minutes and pulls out *one* tube and wants it for 35 cents. I was willing to let it go for 75 cents but he wants it for 35 cents. No deal. He puts it back (tosses it) and gets all smart-ass saying "you'll sell it to me later for 35 Cents." The schmuck comes back 1/2 hour later digs it out and asks for it for 35 Cents again. I say OK, offer to wrap it, he hands it to me and while he's reachin for his 35 cents, I dropped the tube on the ground and smashed it with my trusty Nike, then told him I changed my mind and wanted $1.00 for it. This putz goes completely nuts saying he's looked all over 4 hamfests for this tube and he couldn't believe I smashed it. Jumpin up and down like a looney and me quietly hoping he would have a stroke right there as he must have weighed 300 pounds. A real "Eddie Slobbo" fer sure - baaaaaa hahahahah!! I just laughed and offered him a pleasant balance of the afternoon. After he left the dealers either side of me were almost teary-eyed laughing at the spectacle of this event, and we each shared a Pepsi from my trusty Coleman cooler and had a nice late-lunch at the pizza hut afterwards. El-Cheapo hams....always too much FUN to pass up the opportunity to poke'em-with-a-stick thru the monkey bars !! : ) : ) : ) You're crazy if you beleive that. I could see the vanity call fee eventuallly getting that high, but the rest of your prediction is way off. |
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"me" wrote in news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52: Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year for regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also believe that is how it will eventually be in the near future. 73, Me "Burp not Burr" wrote in message groups.com... "Minnie Bannister" wrote in message ... The fee for a Vanity Call will rise on August 6 from $16.30 to $20.80. This is for a 10-year license. Doing the math, that comes out to about $2.08 per year, or 0.0057 CENTS per-day over the course of a 10-Year period........... How much do you wanna bet however that the average traditionally el-cheapo ham radio operator will ****-and-moan like a stuck pig over a 0.0057 Cent-per-day fee...??? (my guess is alot will !) For example, I was selling at a hamfest in Pa last month. Had a shoebox full of miniature tubes for $1.00 each. A real bargain considering tubes are going for much more on e-Bay. This putz comes walking up, digs thru the box for 2 minutes and pulls out *one* tube and wants it for 35 cents. I was willing to let it go for 75 cents but he wants it for 35 cents. No deal. He puts it back (tosses it) and gets all smart-ass saying "you'll sell it to me later for 35 Cents." The schmuck comes back 1/2 hour later digs it out and asks for it for 35 Cents again. I say OK, offer to wrap it, he hands it to me and while he's reachin for his 35 cents, I dropped the tube on the ground and smashed it with my trusty Nike, then told him I changed my mind and wanted $1.00 for it. This putz goes completely nuts saying he's looked all over 4 hamfests for this tube and he couldn't believe I smashed it. Jumpin up and down like a looney and me quietly hoping he would have a stroke right there as he must have weighed 300 pounds. A real "Eddie Slobbo" fer sure - baaaaaa hahahahah!! I just laughed and offered him a pleasant balance of the afternoon. After he left the dealers either side of me were almost teary-eyed laughing at the spectacle of this event, and we each shared a Pepsi from my trusty Coleman cooler and had a nice late-lunch at the pizza hut afterwards. El-Cheapo hams....always too much FUN to pass up the opportunity to poke'em-with-a-stick thru the monkey bars !! : ) : ) : ) You're crazy if you beleive that. I could see the vanity call fee eventuallly getting that high, but the rest of your prediction is way off. Alun, are you saying that its the vanity people that require them most regulatory attention, and thus should pay more? |
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Dee D. Flint wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... [snip] This is America, and you are allowed to ask any price you want for what you sell. The buyer can also offer any price they want. I would suggest that if a person is firm on all their prices, and doesn't want to deal, they might want to sell retail. Unless, of course, their price is already ridiculously low. I was selling a used tuner at a hamfest for 1/4 of what a new one would be as I simply didn't like it, wanted to get a different one, and wanted to be sure to sell it. A guy tried to bargain me down but I simply told him that we both knew what they sold for both new and used and I wasn't budging. He forked over the asking price. At 1/4 price, sure! I usually won't buy above 1/2 of currently manufactured price. Elswise, I'm happy to buy new, with a warrantee and I'm also not buying someone elses problems. My main point in this whole discussion is that there are a lot of sellers that seem to hate buyers. The Carny vs Rube thing. - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Dee D. Flint wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... [snip] This is America, and you are allowed to ask any price you want for what you sell. The buyer can also offer any price they want. I would suggest that if a person is firm on all their prices, and doesn't want to deal, they might want to sell retail. Unless, of course, their price is already ridiculously low. I was selling a used tuner at a hamfest for 1/4 of what a new one would be as I simply didn't like it, wanted to get a different one, and wanted to be sure to sell it. A guy tried to bargain me down but I simply told him that we both knew what they sold for both new and used and I wasn't budging. He forked over the asking price. At 1/4 price, sure! I usually won't buy above 1/2 of currently manufactured price. Elswise, I'm happy to buy new, with a warrantee and I'm also not buying someone elses problems. My main point in this whole discussion is that there are a lot of sellers that seem to hate buyers. The Carny vs Rube thing. - Mike KB3EIA - My point was that he STILL tried to bargain me down even though we both knew it was already lower than it should have been. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Since when does the US care about so called ``treaties."
73, Me "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ... "me" wrote in message news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52... Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year for regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also believe that is how it will eventually be in the near future. 73, Me Doubtful that testing would be eliminated. International treaties require that there is proof the operators meet minimum qualifications. Since the FCC has given testing responsibility to the amateur community, the FCC simply issues the license so they don't have any vested interest in eliminating testing. And of course they issue the regulations and enforce those regulations like they do for all communications services. Besides testing is needed to attempt to insure that the licensees will have learned the basics of operating. Hams have such a wide range of privileges and frequencies that some basic knowledge truly is a necessity. We already have enough lids slip through so let's not make it worse. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Dee D. Flint wrote:
Doubtful that testing would be eliminated. International treaties require that there is proof the operators meet minimum qualifications. They used to require Morse code. The testing requirements could be removed just as easily as the Morse requirements were. -- Spammers are people who are too lazy and cowardly to rob liquor stores, but still want to make money by stealing instead of working. -- Morely Dotes, The Open Sourceror's Apprentice |
me wrote:
Since when does the US care about so called ``treaties." Since when does anyone here care about you? |
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