"Scott W. Harvey" wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:23:46 -0400, "Jerry G."
wrote:

I am looking for the battery lid for my ICF 2002. It somehow fell off, and
is not available from Sony anymore.

The Sony part number is: 389-1817-00. This is the battery cover lid that is
on the rear side of the radio.

If anyone would have lid from a scrapper ICF 2002, or even a new lid, I am
willing to pay for the lid, and the transport of it.


If someone knows of a source, let me know also. I have a ICF-7600D
(euro version of the 2002) that is missing BOTH battery covers.

-Scott

You've both discovered one of the biggest problems with Sony and some
other Asian electronics brands. They decide when it's time for their
customers to buy a new model by making parts unavailable for the
previous models.


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You are right on the money with that one! Their products are excellent, but
once past about 5 to 7 years old, or sometimes sooner, the parts are very
hard to find. This is the one thing that disappoints me with Sony products.

I have some Panasonic products, and even when they were more than 10 years
old, I had less problems to find the parts. I will soon be considering an
HDTV. I like the Sony sets, but I also considering a Panasonic because of
the parts problems after the 5 year period.

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Jerry G.
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"starman" wrote in message
...
"Scott W. Harvey" wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:23:46 -0400, "Jerry G."
wrote:

I am looking for the battery lid for my ICF 2002. It somehow fell off,
and
is not available from Sony anymore.

The Sony part number is: 389-1817-00. This is the battery cover lid that
is
on the rear side of the radio.

If anyone would have lid from a scrapper ICF 2002, or even a new lid, I
am
willing to pay for the lid, and the transport of it.


If someone knows of a source, let me know also. I have a ICF-7600D
(euro version of the 2002) that is missing BOTH battery covers.

-Scott

You've both discovered one of the biggest problems with Sony and some
other Asian electronics brands. They decide when it's time for their
customers to buy a new model by making parts unavailable for the
previous models.


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"starman" wrote in message
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"Scott W. Harvey" wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:23:46 -0400, "Jerry G."

wrote:

I am looking for the battery lid for my ICF 2002. It somehow fell
off, and
is not available from Sony anymore.

The Sony part number is: 389-1817-00. This is the battery cover lid
that is
on the rear side of the radio.

If anyone would have lid from a scrapper ICF 2002, or even a new
lid, I am
willing to pay for the lid, and the transport of it.


If someone knows of a source, let me know also. I have a ICF-7600D
(euro version of the 2002) that is missing BOTH battery covers.

-Scott

You've both discovered one of the biggest problems with Sony and some
other Asian electronics brands. They decide when it's time for their
customers to buy a new model by making parts unavailable for the
previous models.

But those asian manufacturers are very smart. See, California has
what's called a Lemon Law. This requires manufacturers to carry repair
parts for a certain length of time. See section 1793.03 in the
following URL:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...628455+0+0+0&W
AISaction=retrieve

So in return, the manufacturers put spare parts in some warehouse, and
then priced them so high that it's cheaper to buy a new appliance than
it is to purchase the spare parts!!

Those parts will sit there in the warehouse until the day the company no
longer needs them to cover their legal obligations.

"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

"starman" wrote in message
...
"Scott W. Harvey" wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:23:46 -0400, "Jerry G."

wrote:

I am looking for the battery lid for my ICF 2002. It somehow fell
off, and
is not available from Sony anymore.

The Sony part number is: 389-1817-00. This is the battery cover lid
that is
on the rear side of the radio.

If anyone would have lid from a scrapper ICF 2002, or even a new
lid, I am
willing to pay for the lid, and the transport of it.


If someone knows of a source, let me know also. I have a ICF-7600D
(euro version of the 2002) that is missing BOTH battery covers.

-Scott

You've both discovered one of the biggest problems with Sony and some
other Asian electronics brands. They decide when it's time for their
customers to buy a new model by making parts unavailable for the
previous models.

But those asian manufacturers are very smart. See, California has
what's called a Lemon Law. This requires manufacturers to carry repair
parts for a certain length of time. See section 1793.03 in the
following URL:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...628455+0+0+0&W
AISaction=retrieve

So in return, the manufacturers put spare parts in some warehouse, and
then priced them so high that it's cheaper to buy a new appliance than
it is to purchase the spare parts!!

Those parts will sit there in the warehouse until the day the company no
longer needs them to cover their legal obligations.

This is a common tactic in the consumer product parts industry. I once
priced a replacement case for a Panasonic RF-3100 shortwave radio that
cost about $330 new. They wanted $150 for the case! It couldn't have
cost them more than $20 to make it.


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"starman" wrote in message
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This is a common tactic in the consumer product parts industry. I once
priced a replacement case for a Panasonic RF-3100 shortwave radio that
cost about $330 new. They wanted $150 for the case! It couldn't have
cost them more than $20 to make it.



So, it may have cost $20 to make it.
Then it had to be boxed and shipped to a warehouse in the US. $____
The part had to be set up in an inventory control system . $____
The part had to be received and put on a shelf. $___
The shelf space had to be paid for. $___x ____ years.
The part was probably inventoried yearly. $___x ___ years
The inventory was probably taxed. $___x___ years
There is cost for money tied up in inventory that could
be used elsewhere. $___x ___years.
When you order it,
The order is taken by someone. $____
The part is pulled from a shelf and shipped. $____
There is some profit for doing all the above. $_____

Now if the turnover of the part is several thousand units a year, then some
of these costs become quite low on a per unit basis. But if you may only
sell 10 over the life of the product, then some of the high cost items don't
amortize well.

Also if they stock too many, then they may have to scrap the excess at the
end of the product life.

There are a lot of business costs that go into making a specialty part
available. If you don't pay for it when you buy the part, then costs must be
added to the original price of the product.

....and everyone wants the initial cost to be as low as possible.

Fill in the blanks and let us know what an appropriate price would be.

craigm


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craigm wrote:

"starman" wrote in message
...

This is a common tactic in the consumer product parts industry. I once
priced a replacement case for a Panasonic RF-3100 shortwave radio that
cost about $330 new. They wanted $150 for the case! It couldn't have
cost them more than $20 to make it.



So, it may have cost $20 to make it.
Then it had to be boxed and shipped to a warehouse in the US. $10
The part had to be set up in an inventory control system . $2
The part had to be received and put on a shelf. $4
The shelf space had to be paid for. $5 x 5 years.
The part was probably inventoried yearly. $2 x 5 years
The inventory was probably taxed. $1 x 5 years
There is cost for money tied up in inventory that could
be used elsewhere. $ 2 x 5 years.
When you order it,
The order is taken by someone. $ 1
The part is pulled from a shelf and shipped. $ 4
There is some profit for doing all the above. $ 59

Now if the turnover of the part is several thousand units a year, then some
of these costs become quite low on a per unit basis. But if you may only
sell 10 over the life of the product, then some of the high cost items don't
amortize well.

Also if they stock too many, then they may have to scrap the excess at the
end of the product life.

There are a lot of business costs that go into making a specialty part
available. If you don't pay for it when you buy the part, then costs must be
added to the original price of the product.

...and everyone wants the initial cost to be as low as possible.

Fill in the blanks and let us know what an appropriate price would be.

craigm


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