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m II August 14th 04 04:29 PM

OT winning more hearts and minds by the day.
 


http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=1766321


Cheney is doing his very best to keep oil prices high.




mike


dxAce August 14th 04 04:36 PM



m II proves yet again that he's a total idiot:

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=1766321

Cheney is doing his very best to keep oil prices high.


That's a nice article, 'tard. But I see no mention in it of either Cheney or
oil.

Learn how to read, and more importantly, how to comprehend.

You really should be spending more time brushing up on your radio listening
skills than looking around for ridiculous stuff to post here.

dxAce



T. Early August 14th 04 04:39 PM


"m II" wrote in message
news:GdqTc.11105$X12.12@edtnps84...



http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=1766321


Cheney is doing his very best to keep oil prices high.



The latest in a continuing series of mind-boggling, inappropriate and
inaccurate references to Cheney complete with a link that makes no
mention of him. Soon to be followed by the latest in a series of
mind-boggling, inappropriate and inaccurate excuses for why this is
really OK, as opposed to the figment of a demented imagination.



m II August 14th 04 04:48 PM

T. Early wrote:

The latest in a continuing series of mind-boggling, inappropriate and
inaccurate references to Cheney complete with a link that makes no
mention of him. Soon to be followed by the latest in a series of
mind-boggling, inappropriate and inaccurate excuses for why this is
really OK, as opposed to the figment of a demented imagination.



It's the figment of a deeply disturbed *AND* demented imagination.
That's EXACTLY why Bush and the war criminal mob have to go. The White
House is not an insane asylum.

A Nuremberg style court will have to try these monsters.

A NeoCon by any other name is still a Con.




mike

dxAce August 14th 04 04:59 PM



m II wrote:

T. Early wrote:

The latest in a continuing series of mind-boggling, inappropriate and
inaccurate references to Cheney complete with a link that makes no
mention of him. Soon to be followed by the latest in a series of
mind-boggling, inappropriate and inaccurate excuses for why this is
really OK, as opposed to the figment of a demented imagination.


It's the figment of a deeply disturbed *AND* demented imagination.
That's EXACTLY why Bush and the war criminal mob have to go. The White
House is not an insane asylum.

A Nuremberg style court will have to try these monsters.

A NeoCon by any other name is still a Con.


I know that the Canadian healthcare system is in a shambles. Just how long
is the wait these days for someone like you to obtain the mental health
care you require?

We can only hope that you are fairly high on the list.

dxAce



m II August 14th 04 05:32 PM

dxAce wrote:

We can only hope that you are fairly high on the list.


You don't get high on lists, silly. As you well know, that takes booze
or narcotics. Speaking of which, did you beat the ATF warrants? Is the
front door back on the hinges?




mike

dxAce August 14th 04 07:12 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

We can only hope that you are fairly high on the list.


You don't get high on lists, silly. As you well know, that takes booze
or narcotics. Speaking of which, did you beat the ATF warrants? Is the
front door back on the hinges?


You're even less intelligent than Bryant.

Amazing.

dxAce



clifto August 14th 04 07:41 PM

m II wrote:
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=1766321


Cheney is doing his very best to keep oil prices high.


The oil prices are being held high by greedy ****s manipulating the
commodities markets (and hoping people will blame it on the war).

They were going to try that on computer memory a few years back, until
they became aware of how many computer support people were willing to
quit maintaining their ultra-important computers in protest. I figured
they'd try again during the 9/11 job slump, but maybe they realized that
the job market would rebound and their new slaves could quit in protest
then too. Had they succeeded, you'd find memory at $5 per megabyte today.

--
Both Kerry and Edwards announced their candidacy near the beginning of September,
2003, so let's only count votes before then. From January, 2003, to August, 2003,
Senator Edwards didn't vote 69 out of 320 opportunities (~22%) and Senator Kerry
didn't vote 182 out of 320 opportunities (~57%). http://www.mwilliams.info/archives/001349.php

Telamon August 14th 04 08:13 PM

In article ,
clifto wrote:

m II wrote:
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...1274&storyid=1
766321


Cheney is doing his very best to keep oil prices high.


The oil prices are being held high by greedy ****s manipulating the
commodities markets (and hoping people will blame it on the war).


snip

The oil companies have been posting year over year record profits.

Gas prices are an interesting thing in southern California. Although
there are several brands around town they are all at the same price.
Since I travel through several towns during the week I keep an eye on
the gas prices. I have noticed that the price is the same on all brands
in an area or town if it is small enough. The other trend I noticed is
the price goes up as you drive toward LA. I'm not sure that this makes
sense as their are more people as you drive toward LA and the
refineries as in that direction. Going toward LA the purchase of gas by
volume goes up and the distance to the refineries goes down. The bulk
gas costs should be going down and the volume up so why is the price
higher?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

m II August 14th 04 08:23 PM

dxAce wrote:

You're even less intelligent than Bryant.

Amazing.


You seem to hold him in extremely high regard. Intelligence being a
relative term, I'd like to thank you for the compliment.




mike

dxAce August 14th 04 08:26 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You're even less intelligent than Bryant.

Amazing.


You seem to hold him in extremely high regard.


I certainly don't hold him in high regard at all.

Your comprehension level is really dropping off the deep end today.

dxAce



m II August 14th 04 08:40 PM

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


dxAce wrote:


You're even less intelligent than Bryant.

Amazing.


You seem to hold him in extremely high regard.



I certainly don't hold him in high regard at all.

Your comprehension level is really dropping off the deep end today.

dxAce



Au contraire. It's your appreciation of sarcasm, understatement and
hyperbole that's in question here.



mike


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dxAce August 14th 04 08:50 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


dxAce wrote:


You're even less intelligent than Bryant.

Amazing.

You seem to hold him in extremely high regard.



I certainly don't hold him in high regard at all.

Your comprehension level is really dropping off the deep end today.

dxAce


Au contraire.


Crap, I think we all knew you were French.

dxAce



m II August 14th 04 09:01 PM

dxAce wrote:

Au contraire.



Crap, I think we all knew you were French.


No, but I was taught it for six terms in school. I remember about a half
dozen phrases. If I had to use it to survive, I'd be dead in short
order. I love French cooking. Genuine Greek cuisine is very nice too.
Hungarian/Austrian pastries are delicious.

You know, all the OLD European stuff.


mike

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dxAce August 14th 04 09:05 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Au contraire.



Crap, I think we all knew you were French.


No, but I was taught it for six terms in school. I remember about a half
dozen phrases. If I had to use it to survive, I'd be dead in short
order. I love French cooking. Genuine Greek cuisine is very nice too.
Hungarian/Austrian pastries are delicious.

You know, all the OLD European stuff.


I had some good chow in Greece.

dxAce



Mr Bill E August 14th 04 11:06 PM

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:05:05 -0400, dxAce wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Au contraire.


Crap, I think we all knew you were French.


No, but I was taught it for six terms in school. I remember about a half
dozen phrases. If I had to use it to survive, I'd be dead in short
order. I love French cooking. Genuine Greek cuisine is very nice too.
Hungarian/Austrian pastries are delicious.

You know, all the OLD European stuff.


I had some good chow in Greece.

dxAce



Science, Politics Collide in Election Year


By MATT CRENSON, AP National Writer

With more than 4,000 scientists, including 48 Nobel Prize winners,
having signed a statement opposing the Bush administration's use of
scientific advice, this election year is seeing a new development in
the uneasy relationship between science and politics.


Oh yea - your President.

dxAce August 14th 04 11:12 PM



Mr Bill E wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:05:05 -0400, dxAce wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Au contraire.


Crap, I think we all knew you were French.

No, but I was taught it for six terms in school. I remember about a half
dozen phrases. If I had to use it to survive, I'd be dead in short
order. I love French cooking. Genuine Greek cuisine is very nice too.
Hungarian/Austrian pastries are delicious.

You know, all the OLD European stuff.


I had some good chow in Greece.

dxAce


Science, Politics Collide in Election Year


By MATT CRENSON, AP National Writer

With more than 4,000 scientists, including 48 Nobel Prize winners,
having signed a statement opposing the Bush administration's use of
scientific advice, this election year is seeing a new development in
the uneasy relationship between science and politics.

Oh yea - your President.


I'm signing a statement saying that Kerry is a damn liar concerning his
military record!

Oh yea - your Candidate.



T. Early August 14th 04 11:37 PM


"Mr Bill E" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:05:05 -0400, dxAce wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Au contraire.


Crap, I think we all knew you were French.

No, but I was taught it for six terms in school. I remember about

a half
dozen phrases. If I had to use it to survive, I'd be dead in

short
order. I love French cooking. Genuine Greek cuisine is very nice

too.
Hungarian/Austrian pastries are delicious.

You know, all the OLD European stuff.


I had some good chow in Greece.

dxAce



Science, Politics Collide in Election Year


By MATT CRENSON, AP National Writer

With more than 4,000 scientists, including 48 Nobel Prize winners,
having signed a statement opposing the Bush administration's use of
scientific advice, this election year is seeing a new development in
the uneasy relationship between science and politics.


Oh yea - your President.


Just for the record, how many scientists and Nobel Prize winners are
there? Since AP once was rumored to be a -news- organization, I'm
sure that news is in the story someplace.



Mr Bill E August 14th 04 11:45 PM

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:37:40 -0400, "T. Early"
wrote:


"Mr Bill E" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:05:05 -0400, dxAce wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Au contraire.


Crap, I think we all knew you were French.

No, but I was taught it for six terms in school. I remember about

a half
dozen phrases. If I had to use it to survive, I'd be dead in

short
order. I love French cooking. Genuine Greek cuisine is very nice

too.
Hungarian/Austrian pastries are delicious.

You know, all the OLD European stuff.

I had some good chow in Greece.

dxAce



Science, Politics Collide in Election Year


By MATT CRENSON, AP National Writer

With more than 4,000 scientists, including 48 Nobel Prize winners,
having signed a statement opposing the Bush administration's use of
scientific advice, this election year is seeing a new development in
the uneasy relationship between science and politics.


Oh yea - your President.


Just for the record, how many scientists and Nobel Prize winners are
there? Since AP once was rumored to be a -news- organization, I'm
sure that news is in the story someplace.



Your responses are funny and predictable. But then that's why I think
it's so much fun.

Mr Bill E August 15th 04 02:50 AM

On 15 Aug 2004 01:13:06 GMT, (Diverd4777) wrote:

God Bless GWB
Four More Years ! ! !



I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I
wasn't here.


T. Early August 15th 04 03:50 AM


"Mr Bill E" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:37:40 -0400, "T. Early"
wrote:


"Mr Bill E" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:05:05 -0400, dxAce

wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Au contraire.


Crap, I think we all knew you were French.

No, but I was taught it for six terms in school. I remember

about
a half
dozen phrases. If I had to use it to survive, I'd be dead in

short
order. I love French cooking. Genuine Greek cuisine is very

nice
too.
Hungarian/Austrian pastries are delicious.

You know, all the OLD European stuff.

I had some good chow in Greece.

dxAce



Science, Politics Collide in Election Year


By MATT CRENSON, AP National Writer

With more than 4,000 scientists, including 48 Nobel Prize

winners,
having signed a statement opposing the Bush administration's use

of
scientific advice, this election year is seeing a new development

in
the uneasy relationship between science and politics.


Oh yea - your President.


Just for the record, how many scientists and Nobel Prize winners

are
there? Since AP once was rumored to be a -news- organization, I'm
sure that news is in the story someplace.



Your responses are funny and predictable. But then that's why I

think
it's so much fun.


I believe in fun, so that's a good thing. The fact that you are so
easily buffaloed into a fairly mindless non-response is a bad thing,
however.



Evrhrt 234152 August 15th 04 04:01 AM

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 22:50:18 -0400, "T. Early"
wrote:

I believe in fun, so that's a good thing. The fact that you are so
easily buffaloed into a fairly mindless non-response is a bad thing,
however.



The benefits of helping somebody is beneficial.

m II August 16th 04 04:51 AM

Dan wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:41:55 -0500, clifto wrote:


They were going to try that on computer memory a few years back, until
they became aware of how many computer support people were willing to
quit maintaining their ultra-important computers in protest. I figured
they'd try again during the 9/11 job slump, but maybe they realized that
the job market would rebound and their new slaves could quit in protest
then too. Had they succeeded, you'd find memory at $5 per megabyte today.



I remember when it was $400 per megabyte!


A 32 Kilobyte card used to cost that. A 20 **Meg** hard drive was almost
800 bucks.



mike (..uphill to school, both ways..) II




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'Think tanks cleaned cheap'

John S. Dyson August 16th 04 05:09 AM

In article ,
Dan writes:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:41:55 -0500, clifto wrote:

They were going to try that on computer memory a few years back, until
they became aware of how many computer support people were willing to
quit maintaining their ultra-important computers in protest. I figured
they'd try again during the 9/11 job slump, but maybe they realized that
the job market would rebound and their new slaves could quit in protest
then too. Had they succeeded, you'd find memory at $5 per megabyte today.


I remember when it was $400 per megabyte!

This is definitely not meant to be a 'I remember when' war, but with
normal chip technology, on S-100 (and/or QBus on LSI-11), I designed/built
memory cards for both, where the 16Kx1 chips (AFAIR) were $30/each and
the LSI-11 board contained 16 of the chips (the memory was 16k x 16bits)
that were effective 32kbytes. The cost for the 32kbytes was $480... I might
be off a little in cost, but the general cost range was correct. As I
was building the project, I seem to remember that the cost dropped from
$30/each down to approx $8. That is STILL incredibly expensive when
compared with today.

For example, the fastest cycle time for the commodity computer memory might
have been approx 250nsec, while main memory on an 866MHz RDRAM PC real world
speed was 170nsec latency in 1999, bypassing cache effects (all numbers
are approx) and a
3.2GHz DDR PIV might have 80nsec memory latency. (Latency vs. cycle isn't
the same
thing, but order of magnitude is probably similar in this case.) For
the old memory, the latency and bandwidth would be of similar order, but
for the new stuff, the bandwidth and latency are much more decoupled.

For example, current DDR might have a latency of 80nsec, but the bw
might be 3300Gbytes/sec. If the current memory wasn't so pipelined,
but maintained the latency of 80nsec, then the bandwidth would have
been a sluggish 12Mbytes/sec. Equvalently, an old DRAM might have
had a latency of 250nsec, but a bandwidth (of something more advanced
than the original 16kx1 chips) might be 8Mbytes/sec (well, not exactly,
but the concept is true.)

Current processors and computer systems are very dependent upon asynchronous
queued out of order operations in order to get their incredibly high
performance. (There are chips that can provide 5nsecs of latency, but
other tradeoffs cause architectural decisions that disfavor 5nsecs of
latency/cycle time for main computer memory on PCs.)

John


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