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OT US medics helped design abusive techniques at Abu Ghraib
m II wrote:
I hope you're proud of yourselves, USA.... I think what we need to do is to take a group of liberals and a group of conservatives; really torture the liberals, and do the Abu Ghraib version of "torture" to the conservatives (strip 'em nekkid, put dog collars on them and pour cold water on them). Perhaps then the liberals will learn what's torture and what's just silly annoyance. -- "Kerry arrived [in Viet Nam] with a strong anti-Vietnam War bias and a self- serving determination to build a foundation for his political future." -- Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann, USN (Ret.), May 4, 2004 |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: clifto think what we need to do is to take a group of liberals and a group of conservatives; really torture the liberals, and do the Abu Ghraib version of "torture" to the conservatives (strip 'em nekkid, put dog collars on them and pour cold water on them). Perhaps then the liberals will learn what's torture and what's just silly annoyance. Isn't it prophetic to see Republicans still trying to minimize the abuse that even Bush declared was a serious affront to human rights? Why do you support Bush, because he certainly doesn't seem to agree with your silly conclusion that what transpired was simply an "annoyance"? I suggest you be made, hooded and blindfolded, on a bucket and told that you will be electrocuted if you step down. I am convinced that you will be slightly more than annoyed. You, sir, are an idiot and should be treated as one. So are you, Fat Boy! dxAce A Navy Veteran who will not be voting for John Fraud Kerry. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) |
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Telamon wrote:
You are such a moron. You cannot tell the difference between torture and abuse. Both are serious though, Bush denounced the abuse that occurred, and the people that committed the abuse are being investigated and put on trial. This means you cannot pay attention to news items or show the ability to evaluate information, but I expect that from you. If all that is true, why didn't he denounce and investigate and try the TORTURE cases? TORTURE is a lot worse than abuse. Are the TORTURERS being allowed to go free, while the abusers are tried? It appears it's YOU who can not tell the difference between the two. It sure looks that way. This is funny. YOU make a mistake but accuse *him* of being a moron... mike |
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In article 3gUVc.34372$jZ5.29792@clgrps13,
m II wrote: Telamon wrote: You are such a moron. You cannot tell the difference between torture and abuse. Both are serious though, Bush denounced the abuse that occurred, and the people that committed the abuse are being investigated and put on trial. This means you cannot pay attention to news items or show the ability to evaluate information, but I expect that from you. If all that is true, why didn't he denounce and investigate and try the TORTURE cases? TORTURE is a lot worse than abuse. Are the TORTURERS being allowed to go free, while the abusers are tried? It appears it's YOU who can not tell the difference between the two. It sure looks that way. This is funny. YOU make a mistake but accuse *him* of being a moron... What funny is that "YOU" are in the same class as Bryant. This election is really stirring up the kooks. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote:
In article 3gUVc.34372$jZ5.29792@clgrps13, m II wrote: Telamon wrote: You are such a moron. You cannot tell the difference between torture and abuse. Both are serious though, Bush denounced the abuse that occurred, and the people that committed the abuse are being investigated and put on trial. This means you cannot pay attention to news items or show the ability to evaluate information, but I expect that from you. If all that is true, why didn't he denounce and investigate and try the TORTURE cases? TORTURE is a lot worse than abuse. Are the TORTURERS being allowed to go free, while the abusers are tried? It appears it's YOU who can not tell the difference between the two. It sure looks that way. This is funny. YOU make a mistake but accuse *him* of being a moron... What funny is that "YOU" are in the same class as Bryant. This election is really stirring up the kooks. Please tell me the difference between 'abuse' and 'torture'. I'd like to see what you believe them to mean. How can you insult someone when it's YOU that's mistaken. Too small of a human being to be able to admit to being mistaken? Are you still capable of a proper response? It seems you've degenerated to name calling and little else. mike |
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In article ouWVc.34803$jZ5.29657@clgrps13,
m II wrote: Telamon wrote: In article 3gUVc.34372$jZ5.29792@clgrps13, m II wrote: Telamon wrote: You are such a moron. You cannot tell the difference between torture and abuse. Both are serious though, Bush denounced the abuse that occurred, and the people that committed the abuse are being investigated and put on trial. This means you cannot pay attention to news items or show the ability to evaluate information, but I expect that from you. If all that is true, why didn't he denounce and investigate and try the TORTURE cases? TORTURE is a lot worse than abuse. Are the TORTURERS being allowed to go free, while the abusers are tried? It appears it's YOU who can not tell the difference between the two. It sure looks that way. This is funny. YOU make a mistake but accuse *him* of being a moron... What funny is that "YOU" are in the same class as Bryant. This election is really stirring up the kooks. Please tell me the difference between 'abuse' and 'torture'. I'd like to see what you believe them to mean. How can you insult someone when it's YOU that's mistaken. Do I have to think for you? You can not discern abuse from torture? Do you own a dictionary? Should I tell you how to vote while I'm at it? You are off color quite a bit. Some of your posts are disgusting and some have links to disgusting material so do not expect me to hold you in high regard. I stopped looking at the links in your posts because of this. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote:
In article ouWVc.34803$jZ5.29657@clgrps13, m II wrote: Telamon wrote: In article 3gUVc.34372$jZ5.29792@clgrps13, m II wrote: Telamon wrote: You are such a moron. You cannot tell the difference between torture and abuse. Both are serious though, Bush denounced the abuse that occurred, and the people that committed the abuse are being investigated and put on trial. This means you cannot pay attention to news items or show the ability to evaluate information, but I expect that from you. If all that is true, why didn't he denounce and investigate and try the TORTURE cases? TORTURE is a lot worse than abuse. Are the TORTURERS being allowed to go free, while the abusers are tried? It appears it's YOU who can not tell the difference between the two. It sure looks that way. This is funny. YOU make a mistake but accuse *him* of being a moron... What funny is that "YOU" are in the same class as Bryant. This election is really stirring up the kooks. Please tell me the difference between 'abuse' and 'torture'. I'd like to see what you believe them to mean. How can you insult someone when it's YOU that's mistaken. Do I have to think for you? You can not discern abuse from torture? Do you own a dictionary? Should I tell you how to vote while I'm at it? I love the way you're going around in circles on this. YOU screwed up and then called Bryant a MORON because of YOUR mistake. Just can't admit it, can you. oh well...other people can follow this thread as easily as I can. You are off color quite a bit. Some of your posts are disgusting and some have links to disgusting material so do not expect me to hold you in high regard. I stopped looking at the links in your posts because of this. Those links all show Bush in a very bad light. Closing your eyes won't make him a better human being. Porn sites are disgusting, not political articles that just MAY make you think. Trying to put me in the same league as a pornographer because I think Bush is Cheney's obsequious puppet isn't going to work. Sticking your head in the sand won't make the obscenities in Washington go away. mike |
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In article bMYVc.35099$jZ5.30993@clgrps13,
m II wrote: Telamon wrote: In article ouWVc.34803$jZ5.29657@clgrps13, m II wrote: Telamon wrote: In article 3gUVc.34372$jZ5.29792@clgrps13, m II wrote: Telamon wrote: You are such a moron. You cannot tell the difference between torture and abuse. Both are serious though, Bush denounced the abuse that occurred, and the people that committed the abuse are being investigated and put on trial. This means you cannot pay attention to news items or show the ability to evaluate information, but I expect that from you. If all that is true, why didn't he denounce and investigate and try the TORTURE cases? TORTURE is a lot worse than abuse. Are the TORTURERS being allowed to go free, while the abusers are tried? It appears it's YOU who can not tell the difference between the two. It sure looks that way. This is funny. YOU make a mistake but accuse *him* of being a moron... What funny is that "YOU" are in the same class as Bryant. This election is really stirring up the kooks. Please tell me the difference between 'abuse' and 'torture'. I'd like to see what you believe them to mean. How can you insult someone when it's YOU that's mistaken. Do I have to think for you? You can not discern abuse from torture? Do you own a dictionary? Should I tell you how to vote while I'm at it? I love the way you're going around in circles on this. YOU screwed up and then called Bryant a MORON because of YOUR mistake. Just can't admit it, can you. oh well...other people can follow this thread as easily as I can. Snip OK since you insist I think for you. abuse n The physical or psychological maltreatment of a person. v To use something in an improper, illegal, or damaging way. Example: Making a prisoner stand naked in a public setting. Having said naked prisoner held on a leash by a woman. Depriving a prisoner of sleep. Depriving a prisoner of his normal diet. torture n The inflicting of severe physical pain on somebody, for example, as punishment or to persuade somebody to confess or recant something. v To inflict extreme pain or physical punishment on people. Example: Breaking teeth, bones or any other type of grievous bodily harm. Cutting off appendages, pulling nails and posting BS links in the newsgroup in order to deliberately torture public discourse. Now go vote for Bush. -- Telamon Ventura, California |