Actual Shortwave Question
 

Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?

Beloved Leader wrote:
Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?


All but the Russian approved 'Free Chechnya' have been closed down.
Torture and killing of the locals continues by the brave Russian military.


http://www.chechnyafree.ru/index.php...dioeng&lng=eng




mike

Dan wrote:
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 06:13:25 GMT, m II
wrote:


Beloved Leader wrote:

Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?


All but the Russian approved 'Free Chechnya' have been closed down.
Torture and killing of the locals continues by the brave Russian military.


Good. That's all that child killers deserve.


The Russians have been doing it for over two hundred years. That
encourages revenge and the cycle of death begins..Not knowing that would
mean you are Israeli or American.

http://www.oppression.org/europe/chechnya_refugee.html


mike

m II wrote:

Dan wrote:
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 06:13:25 GMT, m II
wrote:


Beloved Leader wrote:

Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?


All but the Russian approved 'Free Chechnya' have been closed down.
Torture and killing of the locals continues by the brave Russian military.


Good. That's all that child killers deserve.

The Russians have been doing it for over two hundred years. That
encourages revenge and the cycle of death begins..Not knowing that would
mean you are Israeli or American.

Not having a full grip on reality must mean you are Canadian.

http://www.oppression.org/europe/chechnya_refugee.html


dxAce

The Russians began deporting Chechens to Siberia and what became the gulag
in the Czarist days, and continued under Stalin with renewed vigor. The
policy was to "Russianify" minorities. A policy started in the 18th
century with Peter the Great. Approx 1.3 million Chechens were deported in
the 20th century, with 10% dying in transport. The Russians eventually had
to give up on some minorities and now we have a host of new countries,
e.g., the "-stan" countries, Georgia, Armenia, Bylerus. Some of the
smaller minorities were more effectively wiped out, or so they thought
(e.g., Caucasians (from Caucasus mountains, not white people), Karachai,
Balkars, Tartars, Khemsils, Kurds. I guess they were more or less
successful with some of these: I hadn't heard of some of them before. The
Chechen Autonomous Republic was dissolved by Stalin in the late 1940's. The
excuse was alleged collaboration with the Nazis, of which there is evidence
of 335 people doing so (ref "Gulag" - Anne Applebaum, 2003). Now we have
the problem of re-emergent ethnic identity that is emboldened by Islamic
fundamentalism, poor social conditions, and a long history of hatred.

Grozny (capital) is mostly rubble today. Exact civilian casuality numbers
are not known from the two Russian invasions in the 1990's, but it is
thought that about 100,000 were killed. RN had a reporter there about a
year and half ago and described the lack of clean water, heating fuel,
food, shelter. The Russians have blockaded various parts of the region at
various times to try to starve out areas where the rebels are holed up.
Unknown the ongoing civilian casualities. I don't think the situation will
get better soon. The news today suggests that the Russians support
aggressive offensives after the school massacre. Many Chechens no doubt
support terrorism against the Russians based on both the 1990's and long
history of deportation and invasion. The history of the region is a
disaster and the future looks the same.

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:35 am, m II posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM

Dan wrote:
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 06:13:25 GMT, m II
wrote:


Beloved Leader wrote:

Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?


All but the Russian approved 'Free Chechnya' have been closed down.
Torture and killing of the locals continues by the brave Russian
military.


Good. That's all that child killers deserve.


The Russians have been doing it for over two hundred years. That
encourages revenge and the cycle of death begins..Not knowing that would
mean you are Israeli or American.

http://www.oppression.org/europe/chechnya_refugee.html


mike

uncle arnie wrote:
Many Chechens no doubt
support terrorism against the Russians based on both the 1990's and long
history of deportation and invasion.

No. They support killing innocent children because they like to kill.
There is no other reason to kill nothing but innocents, especially
children.

--
"The Democrats are all over this. Democratic strategists feel John Kerry's
war record means he can beat Bush. They say when it comes down to it, voters
will always vote for a war hero over someone who tried to get out of the war.
I'll be sure to mention that to Bob Dole when I see him." -- Jay Leno

"Beloved Leader" wrote in message
om...
Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?

Hopefully not once the bombs start falling.

"m II" wrote in message
news:9qx%c.78907$jZ5.19696@clgrps13...

You must have missed the brave Chechnyn fighters killing all those kids last
weekend. Damn bleeding heart dumbasses.

In article , uncle arnie
writes:

Subject: Actual Shortwave Question
From: uncle arnie
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:10:11 -0600

The Russians began deporting Chechens to Siberia and what became the gulag
in the Czarist days, and continued under Stalin with renewed vigor. The
policy was to "Russianify" minorities. A policy started in the 18th
century with Peter the Great. Approx 1.3 million Chechens were deported in
the 20th century, with 10% dying in transport. The Russians eventually had
to give up on some minorities and now we have a host of new countries,
e.g., the "-stan" countries, Georgia, Armenia, Bylerus. Some of the
smaller minorities were more effectively wiped out, or so they thought
(e.g., Caucasians (from Caucasus mountains, not white people), Karachai,
Balkars, Tartars, Khemsils, Kurds. I guess they were more or less
successful with some of these: I hadn't heard of some of them before. The
Chechen Autonomous Republic was dissolved by Stalin in the late 1940's. The
excuse was alleged collaboration with the Nazis, of which there is evidence
of 335 people doing so (ref "Gulag" - Anne Applebaum, 2003). Now we have
the problem of re-emergent ethnic identity that is emboldened by Islamic
fundamentalism, poor social conditions, and a long history of hatred.

Grozny (capital) is mostly rubble today. Exact civilian casuality numbers
are not known from the two Russian invasions in the 1990's, but it is
thought that about 100,000 were killed. RN had a reporter there about a
year and half ago and described the lack of clean water, heating fuel,
food, shelter. The Russians have blockaded various parts of the region at
various times to try to starve out areas where the rebels are holed up.
Unknown the ongoing civilian casualities. I don't think the situation will
get better soon. The news today suggests that the Russians support
aggressive offensives after the school massacre. Many Chechens no doubt
support terrorism against the Russians based on both the 1990's and long
history of deportation and invasion. The history of the region is a
disaster and the future looks the same.


Uncle..
Thank you for posting this . . .

Peace

Dan

Dunno. But there is a Voice of Jaala.



"Beloved Leader" wrote in message
om...
Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:11 am, RHF posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM


UA,

Stop spreading this lie about DPR of Korea sending 'prisoners'
to help other governments that are friendly to the peoples
democratic republic and its people.. These are "Peoples
Volunteers" and their families are rewarded with an extra
ration of food and water for their patriotic service.

tic ~ RHF


Deeply sorry if this offends all the comrades of the Great Leader. LOL. Of
course they are volunteers!

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:41 pm, Telamon
posted to rec.radio.shortwave:
%MM


I think we should all start calling liberals "old-fart-liberals."

Any old-fart-liberal should know better than to call all Russians
communists.


Perhaps we could revert completely to more historical names like Radical and
Reactionary, or Spiders and Bees. (If you know the classic literary
reference for the latter, you get 10 points and a gold star.)

uncle arnie wrote:

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:41 pm, Telamon
posted to rec.radio.shortwave:
%MM


I think we should all start calling liberals "old-fart-liberals."

Any old-fart-liberal should know better than to call all Russians
communists.


Perhaps we could revert completely to more historical names like Radical and
Reactionary, or Spiders and Bees. (If you know the classic literary
reference for the latter, you get 10 points and a gold star.)

It apparently has to do with St. Ignatius. Easy enough to look up.

You can keep your gold star, I have a feeling it's fool's gold.

dxAce

Noel wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:56:46 -0500, clifto wrote:

Perhaps you mean Communist lovers instead of Russian lovers.
Usually you can tell them by their liberal fantasies.

Only a fool would mistake liberal for communist. Communism was
anything but liberal.

No. But most Communist LOVERS are liberals.

--
"The Democrats are all over this. Democratic strategists feel John Kerry's
war record means he can beat Bush. They say when it comes down to it, voters
will always vote for a war hero over someone who tried to get out of the war.
I'll be sure to mention that to Bob Dole when I see him." -- Jay Leno

Telamon wrote:
Maybe it's because liberals these days advocate the Communist agenda
such as the redistribution of wealth and a progressive tax system. It's
pretty simple to see that the liberals and communists want the same
thing.

We already had a progressive tax system, *really* progressive like the
liberals want. I remember looking at the tax tables in my dad's income
tax booklet and looking up the tax rate on a million dollars... 98%.
Yes, ninety-eight percent. But a DEMOCRAT (mirabile dictu!) came along
and fixed that with massive tax cuts which enormously raised the amount
of money the government actually collected and which made the economy
enormously better.

--
"The Democrats are all over this. Democratic strategists feel John Kerry's
war record means he can beat Bush. They say when it comes down to it, voters
will always vote for a war hero over someone who tried to get out of the war.
I'll be sure to mention that to Bob Dole when I see him." -- Jay Leno

m II wrote in
news:CFN%c.79608$jZ5.22469@clgrps13:

The Russians began deporting Chechens to Siberia and what became the
gulag in the Czarist days, and continued under Stalin with renewed
vigor. The policy was to "Russianify" minorities. A policy started
in the 18th century with Peter the Great. Approx 1.3 million
Chechens were deported in the 20th century, with 10% dying in
transport.


Throughout history there are many examples of people who have been treated
like garbage but haven't felt the need to kill children as revenge.

Juan Gonzalez wrote:

Throughout history there are many examples of people who have been treated
like garbage but haven't felt the need to kill children as revenge.


Like in the Old Testament when God Himself told some followers to bump
off their first born sons?




mike

m II wrote in
news:Tkt1d.11499$XP3.7240@edtnps84:

Juan Gonzalez wrote:

Throughout history there are many examples of people who have been
treated like garbage but haven't felt the need to kill children as
revenge.


Like in the Old Testament when God Himself told some followers to bump
off their first born sons?

That would be a poor example.

Juan Gonzalez wrote in message ...
m II wrote in
news:Tkt1d.11499$XP3.7240@edtnps84:

Juan Gonzalez wrote:

Throughout history there are many examples of people who have been
treated like garbage but haven't felt the need to kill children as
revenge.


Like in the Old Testament when God Himself told some followers to bump
off their first born sons?

That would be a poor example.

True - on the other hand, there have been plenty of genocidal regimes
who have had no compunction about murdering children even when the
regime's members were not being mistreated by the group to be
murdered.

The mere fact that a person is a child does not mean that he or she
will deserve any special treatment by an opposing group. Any opposing
group. And frankly, if it will get to the heart and soul of an enemy
more quickly, there is no reason to doubt that children will *not* be
used as pawns or sacrifices. We here in the civilized, compassionate
world may cringe at the thought, but barbaric conditions result in
barbaric actions. Humanity does not equal sainthood, now or ever.

Bruce Jensen

In article ,
says...
Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?

FYI, they call themselves Chechens.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

Beloved Leader wrote:

Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?

No, I don't think there is an actual Voice of Chechnya, at least on shortwave.
Radio Liberty does have some broadcasts in the Chechen language.

dxAce
Michigan

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

URL: http://www.chechnyafree.ru/index.php...dioeng&lng=eng

sez

Project

You can listen to Free Chechnya Radio station from 6 AM to 12 PM Moscow time
on a frequency of 594 kHz on the medium wave band and on a frequency of 171
kHz on the long wave band. The programme is created with the involvement of
the Ministry for culture and mass communication of the Russian Federation.

No mention of shortwave
--
Keyboard


Hey, there has to be one.

Is there a Voice of Chechnya? I know how to find the Voice of Russia,
but do the Chechnyans have a radio station too?

Yeha, I've heard it listening to internet radios in Sweden often.

"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message news:SFc8d.43365$aW5.35802@fed1read07...
URL: http://www.chechnyafree.ru/index.php...dioeng&lng=eng

sez

Project

You can listen to Free Chechnya Radio station from 6 AM to 12 PM Moscow time
on a frequency of 594 kHz on the medium wave band and on a frequency of 171
kHz on the long wave band. The programme is created with the involvement of
the Ministry for culture and mass communication of the Russian Federation.

No mention of shortwave