They are licensed on 87.9 Mhz with a whopping 0.013 W ERP.

Try walking over there with a walkman portable radio etc. Once you hear
them you can determine the range.

RADIOMAN 390,

Currently here in OK-Land, Cali-4-Ni-A at 0200 PDT on 87.9 MHz
there seems to be Old Time Radio Programs: Sam Spade, and Dragnet.

Can hear it 'loud & clear' on the: CC Radio Plus, Sony ICF-2010,
Grundig Satellit 800 M, and Grundig S350.

Could this be KSFH or some LPFM 'pirate' ?

NOTE: I have not heard a Station ID and the Old Time Radio
Programs are giving the original ABC-CBS-NBC Radio Network IDs
and vintage radio commercials from that era.

On their website KSFH claims:
"KSFH is also the only station licensed in the United States to
broadcast on 87.9 FM. Screaming loud audio from our Mackie
Production system amplified through an Orban 8200 Audio Processor
blankets 750 square miles of Silicon Valley."
= This would be a 27+ Miles-to-a-Side Square.

FCC estimates a 2-3 Mile Signal Pattern for KSFH:
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-serv...=FM285006.html

St. Francis High School of Mountain View
LOCATION= http://tinyurl.com/4vqvw
1885 Miramonte Avenue
Mountain View, CA 94040

Antenna Location: I would appear that the Transmitting Antenna
is located on the School's grounds.

NOTE: Use of Channel 200 [87.9 MHz] is restricted to existing
displaced full service Class D noncommercial educational
stations. See 47 CFR 73.501. Channel 200 is not available for
use by other station classes and services.
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=62118

~ RHF
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= = = (Radioman390) wrote in message
= = = ...
I'm in Mountain View, CA and trying to find station KSFH-FM, which is an
FCC-licensed Class "D" station. It is owner by a local school, and when I call
them they say they're on the air with programming. I am 1 mile from the campus
and can SEE the antenna. I tune to every channel from 88.1 to 107.9 MHz.
Nothing, except, of course, the other stations normally heard. I also try
holding my antenna sideway, vertical, every which way.
I call the FCC office in San Francisco and they say yes they're a legal
station, and they should reach at least 3 miles, so try again. Again nothing.
What is going on?
..

Could someone please tell me when 87.9 became a legal frequency?

All of my references (which I admit are many years old) says the
band starts at 88.1

The encyclopedia reference given previously doesn't seem to say when
the change was made.

Thanks.

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According to the FCC data base
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws..../frequency.hts

There are only three stations in the United States (KSFH, WA2XNX, and
translator K200AA) licensed to operate on 87.9 MHz.
KSFH is a class D educational station in Mt View, CA.
FCC data base sez K200AA is CALVARY CHAPEL OF TWIN FALLS, INC.
WA2XNX is FEDERAL SIGNAL CORPORATION classified as EX

Because the lowest channel, channel 200, extends from 87.8 MHz to 88.0 MHz;
(thus its center frequency is 87.9 MHz)
rather than say the lower FM bandedge is 87.9 MHz, I suspect it was (is)
expedient to shorten that to 88 MHz -- but just a guess.

Note that the highest channel, channel 300, extends from 107.8 to 108.0 MHz
and has a center frequency of 107.9 MHz.

So my guess is 87.9 MHz was always a "legal frequency"
But just a guess mind you.

El Guesser

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"Bart Z. Lederman" wrote in
message ...
Could someone please tell me when 87.9 became a legal frequency?

All of my references (which I admit are many years old) says the
band starts at 88.1

The encyclopedia reference given previously doesn't seem to say when
the change was made.

Thanks.

--
B. Z. Lederman Personal Opinions Only

Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission
to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing
list of any kind.

Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a
legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.

Forgot to add this URL:

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/FM%20station

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"El Conjeturar" wrote in message
news:Dnf9d.1254$hj.148@fed1read07...
According to the FCC data base
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws..../frequency.hts

There are only three stations in the United States (KSFH, WA2XNX, and
translator K200AA) licensed to operate on 87.9 MHz.
KSFH is a class D educational station in Mt View, CA.
FCC data base sez K200AA is CALVARY CHAPEL OF TWIN FALLS, INC.
WA2XNX is FEDERAL SIGNAL CORPORATION classified as EX

Because the lowest channel, channel 200, extends from 87.8 MHz to 88.0
MHz;
(thus its center frequency is 87.9 MHz)
rather than say the lower FM bandedge is 87.9 MHz, I suspect it was (is)
expedient to shorten that to 88 MHz -- but just a guess.

Note that the highest channel, channel 300, extends from 107.8 to 108.0
MHz
and has a center frequency of 107.9 MHz.

So my guess is 87.9 MHz was always a "legal frequency"
But just a guess mind you.

El Guesser

--
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"Bart Z. Lederman" wrote
in
message ...
Could someone please tell me when 87.9 became a legal frequency?

All of my references (which I admit are many years old) says the
band starts at 88.1

The encyclopedia reference given previously doesn't seem to say when
the change was made.

Thanks.

--
B. Z. Lederman Personal Opinions Only

FO&A,

To Answer my own Question: "Could this be KSFH or some LPFM 'pirate' ?"

San Francisco 'pirate' FM Radio Station "Pirate Cat Radio" 87.9 MHz

"Pirate Cat Radio" WebSite: www.piratecatradio.com
http://www.piratecatradio.com/site/home.html

WHY - Pirate Radio Is Currently Legal
Thanks to George Bush for declaring the "War Against Terrorism"
and U.S. Code of Federal Regulations title 47 section 73.3542,
it is now technically legal to operate a radio transmitter with
out a formal license.
http://www.piratecatradio.com/site/legal.html

"Pirate Cat Radio" 87.9 MHz Station Info:

Pirate Cat Radio
2236 Mission Street
San Francisco, CA 94110

PCR Studio Line: 1-415-401-7393

eMail:

more than you wanted to know ~ RHF
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= = = (RHF) wrote in message
= = = . com...
RADIOMAN 390,

Currently here in OK-Land, Cali-4-Ni-A at 0200 PDT on 87.9 MHz
there seems to be Old Time Radio Programs: Sam Spade, and Dragnet.

Can hear it 'loud & clear' on the: CC Radio Plus, Sony ICF-2010,
Grundig Satellit 800 M, and Grundig S350.

Could this be KSFH or some LPFM 'pirate' ?

NOTE: I have not heard a Station ID and the Old Time Radio
Programs are giving the original ABC-CBS-NBC Radio Network IDs
and vintage radio commercials from that era.

On their website KSFH claims:
"KSFH is also the only station licensed in the United States to
broadcast on 87.9 FM. Screaming loud audio from our Mackie
Production system amplified through an Orban 8200 Audio Processor
blankets 750 square miles of Silicon Valley."
= This would be a 27+ Miles-to-a-Side Square.

FCC estimates a 2-3 Mile Signal Pattern for KSFH:
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-serv...=FM285006.html

St. Francis High School of Mountain View
LOCATION= http://tinyurl.com/4vqvw
1885 Miramonte Avenue
Mountain View, CA 94040

Antenna Location: I would appear that the Transmitting Antenna
is located on the School's grounds.

NOTE: Use of Channel 200 [87.9 MHz] is restricted to existing
displaced full service Class D noncommercial educational
stations. See 47 CFR 73.501. Channel 200 is not available for
use by other station classes and services.
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=62118

~ RHF
.
.
= = = (Radioman390) wrote in message
= = = ...
I'm in Mountain View, CA and trying to find station KSFH-FM, which is an
FCC-licensed Class "D" station. It is owner by a local school, and when I call
them they say they're on the air with programming. I am 1 mile from the campus
and can SEE the antenna. I tune to every channel from 88.1 to 107.9 MHz.
Nothing, except, of course, the other stations normally heard. I also try
holding my antenna sideway, vertical, every which way.
I call the FCC office in San Francisco and they say yes they're a legal
station, and they should reach at least 3 miles, so try again. Again nothing.
What is going on?
.

= = =
= = = (Bart Z. Lederman) wrote in message
= = = ...

Could someone please tell me when 87.9 became a legal frequency?

BZL,

ONCE AGAIN FROM MY ORIGINAL POST:

NOTE: Use of Channel 200 [87.9 MHz] is restricted to existing
displaced full service Class D noncommercial educational
stations. See 47 CFR 73.501. Channel 200 is not available for
use by other station classes and services.
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=62118

READ: 47 CFR 73.501 = http://tinyurl.com/6pyl7
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=47&PART=73&SECTION=501&YEAR=2002&TYP E=TEXT

Frequency 87.9 MHz for Channel # 200 *

* NOTE: The frequency 87.9 MHz, Channel 200, is available only
for use of existing Class D stations required to change frequency.
It is available only on a noninterference basis with respect to
TV Channel 6 stations and adjacent channel noncommercial educational
FM stations. It is not available at all within 402 kilometers
(250 miles) of Canada and 320 kilometers (199 miles) of Mexico.
The specific standards governing its use are contained in Sec. 73.512.

~ RHF
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All of my references (which I admit are many years old) says the
band starts at 88.1

The encyclopedia reference given previously doesn't seem to say when
the change was made.

Thanks.

--
B. Z. Lederman Personal Opinions Only

Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission
to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing
list of any kind.

Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a
legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.
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