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Best receiver to buy
Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great.
I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? |
One thing, isn't operation of a transceiver illegal without
a ham license?? For my money, getting a better used shortwave or improving the antenna would allow you to pull in hams better. --Mike L. "Jim" wrote in message om... Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great. I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? |
Michael Lawson wrote:
One thing, isn't operation of a transceiver illegal without a ham license?? Transmitting is. Using it to listen isn't. For my money, getting a better used shortwave or improving the antenna would allow you to pull in hams better. Improving your antenna is bound to deliver the most bang for the buck, but while his portable is a good one, there are other radios that'll do a better job at picking up hams with a suitable antenna. --Mike L. "Jim" wrote in message om... Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great. I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? |
Mike L. You don't need a license to listen on an amateur radio transceiver, same concept as any other service we can listen to w/o needing a license. On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:49:08 -0400, "Michael Lawson" wrote: One thing, isn't operation of a transceiver illegal without a ham license?? For my money, getting a better used shortwave or improving the antenna would allow you to pull in hams better. --Mike L. |
Duly corrected. I know you don't have to prove you're
a ham to by a transceiver. Then, the question becomes, is it worth it to purchase a dedicated ham band transceiver?? --Mike L. "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message ... Mike L. You don't need a license to listen on an amateur radio transceiver, same concept as any other service we can listen to w/o needing a license. On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:49:08 -0400, "Michael Lawson" wrote: One thing, isn't operation of a transceiver illegal without a ham license?? For my money, getting a better used shortwave or improving the antenna would allow you to pull in hams better. --Mike L. |
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: One thing, isn't operation of a transceiver illegal without a ham license?? Transmitting is. Using it to listen isn't. Duly noted. I don't see how in the bang for the buck terms whether a transceiver would be worth it, considering you have to pay for the transmit circuits as well as the receive. For my money, getting a better used shortwave or improving the antenna would allow you to pull in hams better. Improving your antenna is bound to deliver the most bang for the buck, but while his portable is a good one, there are other radios that'll do a better job at picking up hams with a suitable antenna. Granted. I'd suspect an Icom R-71A would be a good used choice. --Mike L. |
Michael Lawson wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Michael Lawson wrote: One thing, isn't operation of a transceiver illegal without a ham license?? Transmitting is. Using it to listen isn't. Duly noted. I don't see how in the bang for the buck terms whether a transceiver would be worth it, considering you have to pay for the transmit circuits as well as the receive. Actually, transceivers aren't priced much higher than a receiver with similar capabilities. My guess is there are more hams who are willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a rig than than SWL's. For my money, getting a better used shortwave or improving the antenna would allow you to pull in hams better. Improving your antenna is bound to deliver the most bang for the buck, but while his portable is a good one, there are other radios that'll do a better job at picking up hams with a suitable antenna. Granted. I'd suspect an Icom R-71A would be a good used choice. --Mike L. |
Jim schrieb:
Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great. I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. Have you checked your 2010 is not affected by the blown FET (Q303) issue? So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, (of which the choice isn't huge nowadays anyway) just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? Mostly, yes. Transceivers don't suffer from the power restrictions present in portables, thus mixers with much better strong signal characteristics are possible. Ham gear is, however, traditionally optimized for SSB use and may not use as good filtering and such for AM. (It be noted that the same applies to several Icom receivers as well.) Also, particularly older gear (20 years) may not have as good overload rejection as more current models. Lastly, be sure to check the ifs and buts of owning and operating ham gear if not licensed. (Be sure to check the usual suspects among tabletop *receivers*.) Stephan -- Meine Andere Seite: http://stephan.win31.de/ PC#6: i440BX, 2xP3-500E, 512 MiB, 18+80 GB, R9k AGP 64 MiB, 110W This is a SCSI-inside, Legacy-plus, TCPA-free computer :) |
Jim,
Are you sure that the first RF FET in your 2010 isn't blown. This is a common problem and leads to the problem you described 73, Chuck Jim wrote: Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great. I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? |
Why not get a ham license?
"RHF" wrote in message om... = = = (Jim) wrote in message = = = . com... Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great. I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? KC7JFV, If you can NOT "Hear It" on your Sony ICF-2010 and your new Antenna. 1. Then have your Sony checked-out for a bad External Antenna RF (Input) Transistor. - Check-Out the Sony ICF-2010 eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icf2010/ 2. Re-Check your Antenna and Ground System. 3. Try building a "LOW NOISE" SWL Antenna READ - Low Noise "SWL" Antenna for the Kenwood R-5000 / Icom IC-R75 [NO Antenna Tuner Required] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1525 TIP - For your Sony ICF-2010 build a Portable Radio Antenna "GIZMOE" Connector Box to protect the Radio's External AM/SW Antenna Input. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1489 4. If you want a 'new' Receiver for SSB, CW and FM on the Amateur [HAM] Bands consider the Icom IC-R75. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0175.html USED: Kenwood R-5000, NRD-525, Drake R8*, Yaesu FRG-100, ETC - Check-Out the Icom IC-R75 eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/ 5. If you want a 'new' Transceiver for SSB, CW and FM on the Amateur [HAM] Bands consider the Icom IC-718. http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0718.html iane ~ RHF . Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502 I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond - The Beyond ! . |
As previously posted...
This seems like a good deal for those who are interested. Manufacturer: ICOM Item : IC-R75 Description : .03-60MHZ RECEIVER WITH SYNC AM $525.00 Coupon: $50.00 YOUR HRO PRICE $475.00 Additional information : Now includes FREE UT-106 DSP unit with purchase ! Offer extended to October 31st 2004! Click the button to add this free item to your cart! http://www.hamradio.com/ "RHF" wrote in message om... = = = (Jim) wrote in message = = = . com... Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great. I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? KC7JFV, If you can NOT "Hear It" on your Sony ICF-2010 and your new Antenna. 1. Then have your Sony checked-out for a bad External Antenna RF (Input) Transistor. - Check-Out the Sony ICF-2010 eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icf2010/ 2. Re-Check your Antenna and Ground System. 3. Try building a "LOW NOISE" SWL Antenna READ - Low Noise "SWL" Antenna for the Kenwood R-5000 / Icom IC-R75 [NO Antenna Tuner Required] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1525 TIP - For your Sony ICF-2010 build a Portable Radio Antenna "GIZMOE" Connector Box to protect the Radio's External AM/SW Antenna Input. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1489 4. If you want a 'new' Receiver for SSB, CW and FM on the Amateur [HAM] Bands consider the Icom IC-R75. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0175.html USED: Kenwood R-5000, NRD-525, Drake R8*, Yaesu FRG-100, ETC - Check-Out the Icom IC-R75 eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/ 5. If you want a 'new' Transceiver for SSB, CW and FM on the Amateur [HAM] Bands consider the Icom IC-718. http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0718.html iane ~ RHF . Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502 I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond - The Beyond ! . |
I would agree that the 2010 is probably suffering from the blown FET. It
is quite easy to hear hams on 40 meters ssb in the evenings with a portable and the built in whip. The 2010 is a fine performer when it is functioning properly. I will also assume that you have tried the amateur frequencies enough times to be sure you were not experiencing poor propagation. Otherwise, the used Drake R8, Kenwood R-5000 etc. as previously mentioned are great overall receivers. The Icom R-75 special noted previously if within your budget, is a great choice. When used in conjunction with an outdoor antenna these should produce better results for you. If listening to ham radio is your main interest, by all means, take the time to earn your amateur license! You will be exposed to a whole new world of radio fun. There are a number of amateur only transceivers and receivers on the market that will do a great job, and not break the bank. Several older rigs from the late 70's and early 80's have hot receivers and can be had for $250-350. Good luck! -- Dave, Icom 746pro, Drake R-8, Grundig YB-400pe Icom V-8000, Yaesu VX5R, Uniden 780xlt, R.S. Pro 95, R.S. Pro 2066 G.E. SR3 "Chuck" wrote in message ... As previously posted... This seems like a good deal for those who are interested. Manufacturer: ICOM Item : IC-R75 Description : .03-60MHZ RECEIVER WITH SYNC AM $525.00 Coupon: $50.00 YOUR HRO PRICE $475.00 Additional information : Now includes FREE UT-106 DSP unit with purchase ! Offer extended to October 31st 2004! Click the button to add this free item to your cart! http://www.hamradio.com/ "RHF" wrote in message om... = = = (Jim) wrote in message = = = . com... Currently I have Sony 2010 receiver. Works great. I'm planning to get a amateur radio. On my Sony, I can barely hear anything in amateur radio bands. Even when I upgraded the antenna, all it did was to increase the noise. So, my point is this: Instead of spending $300+ on portable receiver, just wait and then buy a amateur transceiver. With every configurations being equal, ham radio will surely outperform portable SW receivers. You can even buy a used one for $300. Am I right? KC7JFV, If you can NOT "Hear It" on your Sony ICF-2010 and your new Antenna. 1. Then have your Sony checked-out for a bad External Antenna RF (Input) Transistor. - Check-Out the Sony ICF-2010 eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icf2010/ 2. Re-Check your Antenna and Ground System. 3. Try building a "LOW NOISE" SWL Antenna READ - Low Noise "SWL" Antenna for the Kenwood R-5000 / Icom IC-R75 [NO Antenna Tuner Required] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1525 TIP - For your Sony ICF-2010 build a Portable Radio Antenna "GIZMOE" Connector Box to protect the Radio's External AM/SW Antenna Input. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1489 4. If you want a 'new' Receiver for SSB, CW and FM on the Amateur [HAM] Bands consider the Icom IC-R75. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0175.html USED: Kenwood R-5000, NRD-525, Drake R8*, Yaesu FRG-100, ETC - Check-Out the Icom IC-R75 eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/ 5. If you want a 'new' Transceiver for SSB, CW and FM on the Amateur [HAM] Bands consider the Icom IC-718. http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0718.html iane ~ RHF . Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502 I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond - The Beyond ! . ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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