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Radio / TV stations to be taken over?
Steve Quayle ( http://www.stevequayle.com ) was telling tonight that
there had been numerous events of TV stations (? radio also) being broken into. I don't recall all the details but he may have something posted on his web site. Supposition is that when the U.S. is attacked the next time -- and there will be a next time -- numerous stations will be taken over and a propaganda film will be shown instead of being able to see the whole event as with the 9/11 event. The next one is expected to be much wider spread. Something to think about. I just did a quick scan of his site and didn't see anything about what he discussed tonight. He can be heard at 7:00 PM EDT / 23:00 UTC M-F at 5.070 MHz Al |
"Al Patrick" wrote in message ... Steve Quayle ( http://www.stevequayle.com ) was telling tonight that there had been numerous events of TV stations (? radio also) being broken into. I don't recall all the details but he may have something posted on his web site. Supposition is that when the U.S. is attacked the next time -- and there will be a next time -- numerous stations will be taken over and a propaganda film will be shown instead of being able to see the whole event as with the 9/11 event. The next one is expected to be much wider spread. Something to think about. I just did a quick scan of his site and didn't see anything about what he discussed tonight. He can be heard at 7:00 PM EDT / 23:00 UTC M-F at 5.070 MHz Al, sometimes you really frighten me. |
You frighten too easily! What'll you do when the stuff really hits the
fan? :-) ======== Honus wrote: "Al Patrick" wrote in message ... Steve Quayle ( http://www.stevequayle.com ) was telling tonight that there had been numerous events of TV stations (? radio also) being broken into. I don't recall all the details but he may have something posted on his web site. Supposition is that when the U.S. is attacked the next time -- and there will be a next time -- numerous stations will be taken over and a propaganda film will be shown instead of being able to see the whole event as with the 9/11 event. The next one is expected to be much wider spread. Something to think about. I just did a quick scan of his site and didn't see anything about what he discussed tonight. He can be heard at 7:00 PM EDT / 23:00 UTC M-F at 5.070 MHz Al, sometimes you really frighten me. |
In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1
@earthlink.net.is.invalid says... "Al Patrick" wrote in message ... Steve Quayle ( http://www.stevequayle.com ) was telling tonight that there had been numerous events of TV stations (? radio also) being broken into. I don't recall all the details but he may have something posted on his web site. Supposition is that when the U.S. is attacked the next time -- and there will be a next time -- numerous stations will be taken over and a propaganda film will be shown instead of being able to see the whole event as with the 9/11 event. The next one is expected to be much wider spread. Something to think about. I just did a quick scan of his site and didn't see anything about what he discussed tonight. He can be heard at 7:00 PM EDT / 23:00 UTC M-F at 5.070 MHz Al, sometimes you really frighten me. Sometimes?? BDK |
"Al Patrick" wrote in message ... You frighten too easily! What'll you do when the stuff really hits the fan? :-) What'll I do? Die of shock, most likely, if it hits the fan the way guys like Quayle predict. |
"BDK" wrote in message ... In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1 @earthlink.net.is.invalid says... snip Al, sometimes you really frighten me. Sometimes?? It's hard to be scared when I'm LMAO. ;) |
In article AZ0bd.4101$Rp4.3913@trnddc01, honus1
@earthlink.net.is.invalid says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1 @earthlink.net.is.invalid says... snip Al, sometimes you really frighten me. Sometimes?? It's hard to be scared when I'm LMAO. ;) The scary part is that Al isn't laughing! BDK |
BDK wrote: In article AZ0bd.4101$Rp4.3913@trnddc01, honus1 @earthlink.net.is.invalid says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1 says... snip Al, sometimes you really frighten me. Sometimes?? It's hard to be scared when I'm LMAO. ;) The scary part is that Al isn't laughing! BDK Should I remind you if/when it happens? |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... Steve Quayle ( http://www.stevequayle.com ) was telling tonight that there had been numerous events of TV stations (? radio also) being broken into. I don't recall all the details but he may have something posted on his web site. Supposition is that when the U.S. is attacked the next time -- and there will be a next time -- numerous stations will be taken over and a propaganda film will be shown instead of being able to see the whole event as with the 9/11 event. The next one is expected to be much wider spread. Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! |
Al Patrick wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... mike |
m II wrote: Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... But... it's not your home is it, 'tard boy? Keep buying those leaky, rusty submarines that your 'canoe' navy doesn't know how to operate. LMAO. dxAce Michigan USA |
"m II" wrote in message news:Atbbd.36945$663.20268@edtnps84... Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... I think you left out a few things that a Stalinist state does that the U.S. does not do. |
Al Patrick wrote:
BDK wrote: In article AZ0bd.4101$Rp4.3913@trnddc01, honus1 @earthlink.net.is.invalid says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1 @earthlink.net.is.invalid says... snip Al, sometimes you really frighten me. Sometimes?? It's hard to be scared when I'm LMAO. ;) The scary part is that Al isn't laughing! BDK Should I remind you if/when it happens? *IF* it happens, please do. |
m II wrote:
Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the world being shut down by the US government? |
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"Sir Cumferenc" wrote in message ... m II wrote: Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the world being shut down by the US government? I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that mirror the following article, along with related links. http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html From the IndyMedia website: Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet. Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is happening. It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities. At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and a handful of miscellanous things. The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media organisations were successfull with their victories for example against Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down IMCs around the world. The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. |
"Frank White" wrote in message Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too. -- 73 and good DXing. Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Zumbrota, Southern MN Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/ |
"m II" wrote in message Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others... mike Don't worry so much Mike. Brian the Sinner! |
Brian Hill wrote:
"Frank White" wrote in message Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too. True. But you'll be surprised how many people will just accept whatever comes over that one-eyed monster in their living room. |
"Al Patrick" wrote in message ... Brian Hill wrote: "Frank White" wrote in message Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too. True. But you'll be surprised how many people will just accept whatever comes over that one-eyed monster in their living room. I agree. B.H. |
"m II" wrote in message news:Atbbd.36945$663.20268@edtnps84... Al Patrick wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding out what's going on? Therein might lie the key! Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin reception? It creates broadband noise in the vicinity of power lines. What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription. Depends. IBOC, the digital capability being added to AM and FM in the US, is free. Satellite radio subscribers have addressable receivers which store activation data and update it off the air. There is no key card. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web cruising. Nope. Satellite radio is one way, and only receives. |
Brian Hill wrote:
Don't worry so much Mike. Brian the Sinner! Well! That is certainly a good step in your recovery. Admission of fault is of the greatest importance in becoming the well rounded and liked individuals we all aspire to be. It's work(1), but well worth it. Believe me, I know! It took me at least three weeks to attain the level of near perfection I enjoy now. With a bit more work, you too will ascend to these lofty Olympian peaks. We can wonder at the aimless wanderings of the unenlightened masses as they confusedly stumble around our Mountain of Enlightenment.(2) Look! I can see dxEh? down there now...ha...he's drunk again! I can't blame him. He just found out that the deal he got on the last shipment of fifty thousand .223 rounds was so cheap because the commies used mercury fulminate primers. The EPA will surely make him clean it all up after the next killing spree he goes on. mike (1) ..but NOT 'Bush' hard work. **REAL** hard work! (2) Better than a Prayer Tower anyday. |
"m II" wrote in message news:hGobd.6870$z96.2903@clgrps12... Brian Hill wrote: Don't worry so much Mike. Brian the Sinner! Well! That is certainly a good step in your recovery. Admission of fault is of the greatest importance in becoming the well rounded and liked individuals we all aspire to be. It's work(1), but well worth it. Believe me, I know! It took me at least three weeks to attain the level of near perfection I enjoy now. With a bit more work, you too will ascend to these lofty Olympian peaks. We can wonder at the aimless wanderings of the unenlightened masses as they confusedly stumble around our Mountain of Enlightenment.(2) Look! I can see dxEh? down there now...ha...he's drunk again! I can't blame him. He just found out that the deal he got on the last shipment of fifty thousand .223 rounds was so cheap because the commies used mercury fulminate primers. The EPA will surely make him clean it all up after the next killing spree he goes on. Speaking of guns and radios, some of you might find this of interest. This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns. "I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom cavity of which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to nothing about guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify what appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of the last century." He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg |
Honus wrote:
This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns. "I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom cavity of which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to nothing about guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify what appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of the last century." He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg I don't know the type, but I'd bet it has a real story behind it. There may be a slight chance of some help he http://www.littlegun.be/index.htm mike |
m II wrote:
Honus wrote: This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns. "I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom cavity of which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to nothing about guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify what appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of the last century." He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg I don't know the type, but I'd bet it has a real story behind it. There may be a slight chance of some help he http://www.littlegun.be/index.htm More specifically, he may submit a query he http://www.littlegun.be/identificati...tification.htm They seem to know what they're talking about. mike |
"m II" wrote in message news:PEFbd.3488$cr4.243@edtnps84... m II wrote: Honus wrote: This is from a recent post that I read over in rec.guns. "I recently purchased an antique radio, ca. 1920, hidden in the bottom cavity of which was an old pistol. As will become obvious, I know next to nothing about guns, and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me identify what appears to be a very well made Belgian pistol from the early part of the last century." He included links to pictures of the gun, and here they a http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp2.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp3.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp4.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp5.jpg http://members.aol.com/muldwourp/bp6.jpg I don't know the type, but I'd bet it has a real story behind it. There may be a slight chance of some help he http://www.littlegun.be/index.htm More specifically, he may submit a query he http://www.littlegun.be/identificati...tification.htm Ha! That's exactly the link that was given to him. And man, I'd give almost anything to know the story behind this. But then again, maybe not knowing is more fun. |
"m II" wrote in message news:hGobd.6870$z96.2903@clgrps12... Brian Hill wrote: Don't worry so much Mike. Brian the Sinner! Well! That is certainly a good step in your recovery. Admission of fault is of the greatest importance in becoming the well rounded and liked individuals we all aspire to be. It's work(1), but well worth it. Believe me, I know! It took me at least three weeks to attain the level of near perfection I enjoy now. With a bit more work, you too will ascend to these lofty Olympian peaks. mike Sounds like a lot of work Mike, I'm afraid I'll have to lower my level of perfection. B.H. |
It sounds like you're a victim of media propaganda. The article you
quoteed says that the U.S. government seized Indymedia servers so that Indymedia wasn't able to update anything. Yet the article you quote says that the article is from Indymedia. which means that Indymedia was able to update their servers after this so-called seizure of Indymedia's servers. you fell for media propagada lies. you wrote: I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that mirror the following article, along with related links. http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html From the IndyMedia website: Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet. Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is happening. It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities. At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and a handful of miscellanous things. The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media organisations were successfull with their victories for example against Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down IMCs around the world. The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. |
wrote: And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too.
------------------------------------------------ Not if they lose their liscence to transmit for failing to obey whatever rules the government tells them to. |
In my opinion, Brenda fell for media propaganda lies.
If the U.S. government seized Indymedia servers before Indymedia knew about it, (as stated in this article from Indymedia) so that Indymedia wasn't able to update their sites with anything, then Indymedia would not have been able to update or print up this article that is from Indymedia. And the U.S. government would definitely not have printed it up if they didn't want anyone to know about it. Especially since it's unfavorable to them. Brenda wrote: I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that mirror the following article, along with related links. http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html From the IndyMedia website: Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet. Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is happening. It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities. At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and a handful of miscellanous things. The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media organisations were successfull with their victories for example against Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down IMCs around the world. The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. |
In my opinion, Brenda fell for media propaganda lies.
If the U.S. government seized Indymedia servers before Indymedia knew about it, (as stated in this article from Indymedia) so that Indymedia wasn't able to update their sites with anything, then Indymedia would not have been able to update or print up this article that is from Indymedia. And the U.S. government would definitely not have printed it up if they didn't want anyone to know about it. Especially since it's unfavorable to them. Brenda wrote: I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that mirror the following article, along with related links. http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html From the IndyMedia website: Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet. Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is happening. It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities. At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and a handful of miscellanous things. The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media organisations were successfull with their victories for example against Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down IMCs around the world. The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. |
Since it is impossible for Indymedia to have updated their site with
this article if the so-called facts in the article are true, it is very obvious that the site is still being run by Indymedia and very obvious it is all Indymedia's propaganda lies against the U.S ------------------------------------------------------ From the IndyMedia website: Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet. Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is happening. It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities. At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and a handful of miscellanous things. The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media organisations were successfull with their victories for example against Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down IMCs around the world. The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. |
Since it is impossible for Indymedia to have updated their site with
this article if the so-called facts in the article are true, it is very obvious that the site is still being run by Indymedia and very obvious it is all Indymedia's propaganda lies against the U.S ------------------------------------------------------ From the IndyMedia website: Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency. Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers, effectively removing those sites from the internet. Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is happening. It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities. At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and a handful of miscellanous things. The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media organisations were successfull with their victories for example against Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down IMCs around the world. The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen, Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil, UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. |
wrote in message ... wrote: And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too. ------------------------------------------------ Not if they lose their liscence to transmit for failing to obey whatever rules the government tells them to. Don't worry. They're clever enough to get away with it. Have a little faith man. . B.H. |
wrote in message ... Since it is impossible for Indymedia to have updated their site with this article if the so-called facts in the article are true, it is very obvious that the site is still being run by Indymedia and very obvious it is all Indymedia's propaganda lies against the U.S Noplace in that article does it say that ALL of Indymedia's servers were taken down. |
wrote: Noplace in that article does it say that ALL of Indymedia's
servers were taken down. ---------------------------------------------------- The article implies that Indymedia was not able to update any of their servers because the U.S. government seized them. If the U.S. government seized only some of Indymedia's servers, then Indymedia could stilll update those servers of theirs that weren't seized, and the article's implied statement that Indymedia was not able to update any of their servers is obviously a lie. And therefore, Indymedia has lost all credibility as a source of factual information. There are also some other similar things with the article, which after examining it, Indymedia has lost all credibility. |
wrote: Noplace in that article does it say that ALL of Indymedia's
servers were taken down. ---------------------------------------------------- The article implies that Indymedia was not able to update any of their servers because the U.S. government seized them. If the U.S. government seized only some of Indymedia's servers, then Indymedia could stilll update those servers of theirs that weren't seized, and the article's implied statement that Indymedia was not able to update any of their servers is obviously a lie. And therefore, Indymedia has lost all credibility as a source of factual information. There are also some other similar things with the article, which after examining it, Indymedia has lost all credibility. |
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