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Looking for comments on the Grundig S350
I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a
casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com |
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:46:22 -0400, "Martin Combs"
wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Pick one up and feel the quality. |
Billy Everhart wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:46:22 -0400, "Martin Combs" wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Pick one up and feel the quality. Quality in this case may be a rather fleeting thing. The Satellite 800 was pretty bad when the original batch came out too. The Grundig name, in my opinion, has been degraded badly since they started this wheeling and dealing with the communist Chinese. The quality, or lack of it, certainly starts to show when all you use are the lowest cost bidders to make your merchandise for you. I'm assuming Grundig was sold to it's new present owners in the last few years. Then the decline started. In an attempt to fatten the bottom line in the quickest possible time, they started cutting corners very severely. It may be coming back to bite them on the ass. Twice! mike |
m II wrote: Billy Everhart wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:46:22 -0400, "Martin Combs" wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Pick one up and feel the quality. Quality in this case may be a rather fleeting thing. The Satellite 800 was pretty bad when the original batch came out too. The Grundig name, in my opinion, has been degraded badly since they started this wheeling and dealing with the communist Chinese. The quality, or lack of it, certainly starts to show when all you use are the lowest cost bidders to make your merchandise for you. I'm assuming Grundig was sold to it's new present owners in the last few years. Then the decline started. In an attempt to fatten the bottom line in the quickest possible time, they started cutting corners very severely. It may be coming back to bite them on the ass. Twice! Quality? What does a Canucky Boy know about quality? Think rusty, leaky submarines, 'tard. dxAce Michigan USA |
m II schrieb:
I'm assuming Grundig was sold to it's new present owners in the last few years. Then the decline started. In an attempt to fatten the bottom line in the quickest possible time, they started cutting corners very severely. It may be coming back to bite them on the ass. Twice! Grundig USA a.k.a. Lextronix a.k.a. Etón never had that much to do with the European company (the radio/TV etc. related parts of which were sold to the UK based Alba and Turkey based Beko early this year but which had been going downhill for a long time). The last "European" Grundig SW receivers were the Yacht Boy 500 and Satellit 700 (along with the 900 that was not to be), along with the Yacht Boy 360 which was an interesting hybrid of Fürth style docs - I have a service manual - and typically Asian innards (Japanese transistors etc.). The YB 400 was a Grundig USA product, suspected to have been made by Sangean. Current Etón/Grundig USA radios are just slightly adapted Tecsun models. The Satellit 800 is a rather interesting beast as it involves both Tecsun and Drake (with the former producing it and the latter having developed the SW8's circuitry which gets used to a large extent). The Germany-based Grundig IMHO was strongest in the early to mid, maybe still late 80s. I have an FM tuner from this period, a T 7500 - it may not have the high quality looks of others and lacks a few features (switchable bandwidth, attenuator), but sonically beat the pants off a Revox costing almost three times as much in those days ('83 or so). (And it allowed entering 4-digit alpha tags for stations and had an 8-segment signal strength display that was pretty much exactly logarithmic, both not really features expected in a tuner with little more than a middle-class price tag.) The thing is solidly built, the only point where they cut costs a bit too much was the rectifier for the +5V supply, which was a historic selenium type (!) notorious for failing. Now guess what went south two hours after I got the thing... Fortunately, this is good ol' macroscopic technology and not tiny SMD stuff. ;) But, err, I digress. Stephan -- Meine Andere Seite: http://stephan.win31.de/ PC#6: i440BX, 2xP3-500E, 512 MiB, 18+80 GB, R9k AGP 64 MiB, 110W This is a SCSI-inside, Legacy-plus, TCPA-free computer :) |
dx'tard wrote: Quality? What does a Canucky Boy know about quality? Think rusty, leaky submarines, 'tard. A dx'tard doesn't know anything... |
Volker Tonn wrote: dx'tard wrote: Quality? What does a Canucky Boy know about quality? Think rusty, leaky submarines, 'tard. A dx'tard doesn't know anything... Then why do you try and act like you do? dxAce Michigan USA |
dx'tard wrote: Then why do you try and act like you do? I _never_ give up... ;-) |
= = = "Martin Combs" wrote in message
= = = news:2I7bd.30980$cN6.21904@lakeread02... I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com MC, Check-Out the 'Grundig S350 "Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000' eGroup on YAHOO ! GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-S350/ The ETON Corp. is the "Grundig" Radio Brand Name licensee for North America. ETON WebSite is: http://www.grundigradio.com/ hth ~ RHF .. |
"Martin Combs"
Martin: I have a S350 and is a good radio for listening to MW/AM. For casual short wave is fine with good audio and sensitivity. Is an anaolg radio so you have to tune from one side of the band to the other to listen to different bands. This gets to be a pain after a while. It has a mechanical drift too so you have to be moving back into frequency. You can find them for $50 to $100. For $70 you camn get the Degen 1103 and excellent pocket book size shortwave, MW/AM, LW and FM radio with excellent sensitivity, selectivity, direct entry frequency, tunning knob. Is a pocket size radio with 200 plus memories. No one has a radio at this price with this performance. Check ebay they are selling them direct from China or from a dealer in the USA. Happy listening.Sergio |
Martin Combs wrote:
I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
Stephan Grossklass wrote:
But, err, I digress. Not at all.. Good post. It's nice to read a bit of that company's history. There must be some silicon type replacements for the rectifier, no? mike |
m II schrieb:
Stephan Grossklass wrote: But, err, I digress. Not at all.. Good post. It's nice to read a bit of that company's history. There must be some silicon type replacements for the rectifier, no? Yes, of course. Any ordinary silicon bridge rectifier in DIP will do just fine (and, given it's totally oversized for 9.8 V ~ and about 100 mA, should do its job for a loooooong time). At least this experience has expanded my list of potentially critical (read: best replaced) components in old radios to (a) paper caps and electrolytics and (b) selenium rectifiers. Now all I need is a *decent* soldering iron and the tube radio that should hopefully arrive within the next few days / weeks / eternities - though the Grundig Signal 700 could use some service as well (some humming, switches with contact probs and such - it's 30 years old after all and has probably never undergone servicing). Stephan -- Meine Andere Seite: http://stephan.win31.de/ PC#6: i440BX, 2xP3-500E, 512 MiB, 18+80 GB, R9k AGP 64 MiB, 110W This is a SCSI-inside, Legacy-plus, TCPA-free computer :) |
On 14 Oct 2004 07:03:12 -0500, Dan wrote:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:19:10 GMT, "Brian Denley" wrote: Martin Combs wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. Nonsense. For the price ($60 shipped), it's a great radio. Great sound, easy to use, plays for weeks on a set of batteries. Dan Dan, It's not nonsense. It's a well formulated opinion based on a very real observation by Martin. And it's a view held by others in the group. Everything is black and white to you Dan. It's no wonder you make a great Republican. |
Billy Everhart wrote: On 14 Oct 2004 07:03:12 -0500, Dan wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:19:10 GMT, "Brian Denley" wrote: Martin Combs wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. Nonsense. For the price ($60 shipped), it's a great radio. Great sound, easy to use, plays for weeks on a set of batteries. Dan Dan, It's not nonsense. It's a well formulated opinion based on a very real observation by Martin. And it's a view held by others in the group. Everything is black and white to you Dan. It's no wonder you make a great Republican. And you're a 'tard, Billy. I'ts no wonder you make a great Democrat. dxAce Michigan USA |
Billy Everhart wrote: On 14 Oct 2004 07:03:12 -0500, Dan wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:19:10 GMT, "Brian Denley" wrote: Martin Combs wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. Nonsense. For the price ($60 shipped), it's a great radio. Great sound, easy to use, plays for weeks on a set of batteries. Dan Dan, It's not nonsense. It's a well formulated opinion based on a very real observation by Martin. And actually, the observation was by Brian... not Martin. Martin asked the original question, and Dan responded to Brian's comment. Please try to pay attention, 'tard boy. dxAce Michigan USA |
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:40:02 -0400, dxAce wrote:
Billy Everhart wrote: On 14 Oct 2004 07:03:12 -0500, Dan wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:19:10 GMT, "Brian Denley" wrote: Martin Combs wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. Nonsense. For the price ($60 shipped), it's a great radio. Great sound, easy to use, plays for weeks on a set of batteries. Dan Dan, It's not nonsense. It's a well formulated opinion based on a very real observation by Martin. And it's a view held by others in the group. Everything is black and white to you Dan. It's no wonder you make a great Republican. And you're a 'tard, Billy. I'ts no wonder you make a great Democrat. dxAce Michigan USA Democrat - LMAO at the guessing 'tard. You born to be trolled boy. Now get back in your cage. I've widened the door for ya' Muahhahhahhahahah |
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:46:35 -0400, dxAce wrote:
Billy Everhart wrote: On 14 Oct 2004 07:03:12 -0500, Dan wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:19:10 GMT, "Brian Denley" wrote: Martin Combs wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. Nonsense. For the price ($60 shipped), it's a great radio. Great sound, easy to use, plays for weeks on a set of batteries. Dan Dan, It's not nonsense. It's a well formulated opinion based on a very real observation by Martin. And actually, the observation was by Brian... not Martin. Martin asked the original question, and Dan responded to Brian's comment. Please try to pay attention, 'tard boy. dxAce Michigan USA Nope. |
Billy Everhart wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:46:35 -0400, dxAce wrote: Billy Everhart wrote: On 14 Oct 2004 07:03:12 -0500, Dan wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:19:10 GMT, "Brian Denley" wrote: Martin Combs wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. Nonsense. For the price ($60 shipped), it's a great radio. Great sound, easy to use, plays for weeks on a set of batteries. Dan Dan, It's not nonsense. It's a well formulated opinion based on a very real observation by Martin. And actually, the observation was by Brian... not Martin. Martin asked the original question, and Dan responded to Brian's comment. Please try to pay attention, 'tard boy. dxAce Michigan USA Nope. I know it must be hard for you, as it is for 'tards all over the world. Maybe Kerry has a 'plan' for the 'tards. dxAce Michigan USA |
"Billy Everhart" wrote in message ... On 14 Oct 2004 07:03:12 -0500, Dan wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:19:10 GMT, "Brian Denley" wrote: Martin Combs wrote: I'm thinking about purchaseing one of those Grundig S350 radios I'm just a casual listener when working in my garage anybody got any comments on this radio, also is Eaton the same as Grundig. Marty www.knotstuff.com Martin: Very cheap (quality and price) with performance to match. You can do much better for not too much more. Nonsense. For the price ($60 shipped), it's a great radio. Great sound, easy to use, plays for weeks on a set of batteries. Dan Dan, It's not nonsense. It's a well formulated opinion based on a very real observation by Martin. And it's a view held by others in the group. Everything is black and white to you Dan. It's no wonder you make a great Republican. Now, now. I hope we aren't suggesting that Democrats are better at seeing things in shades of gray than Republicans. That would seem to be a rather "black and white" comment. |
dxtard wrote: I know it must be hard for you, as it is for 'tards all over the world. .....you _must_ know very well.... |
Stephan Grossklass wrote:
Yes, of course. Any ordinary silicon bridge rectifier in DIP will do just fine (and, given it's totally oversized for 9.8 V ~ and about 100 mA, should do its job for a loooooong time). At least this experience has expanded my list of potentially critical (read: best replaced) components in old radios to (a) paper caps and electrolytics and (b) selenium rectifiers. Now all I need is a *decent* soldering iron and the tube radio that should hopefully arrive within the next few days / weeks / eternities - though the Grundig Signal 700 could use some service as well (some humming, switches with contact probs and such - it's 30 years old after all and has probably never undergone servicing). Struggled with a 15 watt pencil iron for years. I hated the heavy pistol grip 100/150 watt copper wire tipped guns. Way too awkward. I finally broke down and bought a 35 watt pencil iron and it works very well. I find the hotter tip spends a lot less time on the work, so in the long run, it's most likely easier on the components than the smaller iron was. I've used the thermostatically controlled Weller cradle type and it was very nice..but I couldn't justify the extra expense for the relatively few joints I solder at a time. mike |
dxAce wrote:
And you're a 'tard, Billy. I'ts no wonder you make a great Democrat. dxAce Michigan USA You're just mad at him because he turned you in for severely beating your dog. Have you served the jail time yet? If not, Bubba is waiting for you.. mike |
Volker Tonn wrote:
dxtard wrote: I know it must be hard for you, as it is for 'tards all over the world. ....you _must_ know very well.... Yes, he does. He's been on the front lines of retardation for years. They never did retrieve those pieces of shrapnel from his head. He doesn't like talking about it, but when he was in the forces and assigned to kitchen duty, an unfortunate episode with a clogged pressure cooker maimed him severely. His eyes still aim in different directions. mike |
m II wrote: dxAce wrote: And you're a 'tard, Billy. I'ts no wonder you make a great Democrat. dxAce Michigan USA You're just mad at him because he turned you in for severely beating your dog. Have you served the jail time yet? If not, Bubba is waiting for you.. Dog? You're as delusional as Bryant! dxAce Michigan USA |
dxAce wrote:
You're just mad at him because he turned you in for severely beating your dog. Have you served the jail time yet? If not, Bubba is waiting for you.. Dog? You're as delusional as Bryant! dxAce Michigan USA Still in denial I see. You can't get better until you accept responsibility for your actions. Your parole officer told you that. Your psychiatrist told you that. As for Mr. Bryant, I'd rather be an instructor than a dog beater anyday. Wouldn't the poor pooch fetch your paper? That's no reason to whip it mercilessly with the leash. People who do that are beneath contempt. Get with the program, you louse. mike |
Stephan Grossklass wrote:
The Germany-based Grundig IMHO was strongest in the early to mid, maybe still late 80s. I have an FM tuner from this period, a T 7500 - it may not have the high quality looks of others and lacks a few features (switchable bandwidth, attenuator), but sonically beat the pants off a Revox costing almost three times as much in those days ('83 or so). (And it allowed entering 4-digit alpha tags for stations and had an 8-segment signal strength display that was pretty much exactly logarithmic, both not really features expected in a tuner with little more than a middle-class price tag.) The thing is solidly built, the only point where they cut costs a bit too much was the rectifier for the +5V supply, which was a historic selenium type (!) notorious for failing. Now guess what went south two hours after I got the thing... Fortunately, this is good ol' macroscopic technology and not tiny SMD stuff. ;) But, err, I digress. Stephan A selenium rectifier in a twenty year old solid state radio? I haven't seen a selenium used in anything for more than thirty years, probably close to forty. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
Stephan Grossklass wrote:
m II schrieb: Stephan Grossklass wrote: But, err, I digress. Not at all.. Good post. It's nice to read a bit of that company's history. There must be some silicon type replacements for the rectifier, no? Yes, of course. Any ordinary silicon bridge rectifier in DIP will do just fine (and, given it's totally oversized for 9.8 V ~ and about 100 mA, should do its job for a loooooong time). At least this experience has expanded my list of potentially critical (read: best replaced) components in old radios to (a) paper caps and electrolytics and (b) selenium rectifiers. Now all I need is a *decent* soldering iron and the tube radio that should hopefully arrive within the next few days / weeks / eternities - though the Grundig Signal 700 could use some service as well (some humming, switches with contact probs and such - it's 30 years old after all and has probably never undergone servicing). Stephan When replacing a selenium rectifier (bridge) with a silicon type you should allow for the fact that the circuit was designed for the greater forward resistance of the selenium. Otherwise the voltage output of the silicon rectifier(s) won't be the same as it was with the selenium. This may require adding a voltage dropping resistor. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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